How to Use Guitar Pedals as Effects in Your DAW instead of Plug Ins
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Nice video but would have been good had you shown it practically.
exactly. why didnt he do that its like 1 minute work.
I seriously thought I had accidentally skipped forward, he basically described it was possible and have fun. He didnt even describe what the blue box was, reamp or DI? Instructional for inserting a effect loop using a interface is oddly hard to find
I agree
I already get it for the most part, the other details like input output vary depending on your DAW. With that being said it seems like this is geared towards more intermediate sound engineers rather than beginners. That's probably why he didn't go into much detail
You explained everything thoroughly & well but I just couldn’t follow you without seeing exactly what was going on. Nice video though! 💯
I've used a tube screamer for parallel saturation on vocals, acoustic guitars, and drums. It can really help to add some warmth to the tracks!
Nice!
have been running a mixdown of multiple tracks through an overdrive pedal, then heavily compressing it. this provides a "glue/grit" layer that i mix back in. works great for a unified/warm vibe
yes...love it. I'm totally trying this soon.
I did something similar couple weeks ago.
ran a mic through a small pre amp for phantom power then into a splitter (the direct thru went into my DAW) the split (transformed) signal went to > mixing board mic input>pre fader aux send to my guitar pedals > to a DI box >pre amp >DAW.
I mixed them in post and the vocals sound sick!!!
Thank you so much, this information is life saving. I've been so confused trying to get my gear to not sound horrible through my computer.
John Smith I feel your struggle my dude, we shall reach the promise land haha
I once put a snare track through a Tube Screamer into a cranked Blackstar HT-5 and man that gave it some balls! Had to compensate for latency but it was well worth the experiment.
Sweet dude! I love hearing about stuff like this!
Found this very helpful for finding the best way to run a send and return on my console. Thanks!
Just found this channel. This info is invaluable. Thanks!
As a guy getting onto the electronic music scene after years of being in a band this is the way forward for me, plug-ins are inherently better for simple things I get it and when I have the money for a decent reverb I'll pay it but that's just the fact, plugins that don't sound souless are few and the same price as boutique pedals at times with no re sell value. I'll definitely be experimenting with my pedals down the line.
Also something to keep on mind is the guitar pedal industry is highly competitive so they spend a long time coming up with blends of sounds to make a pedal interesting, straight away my boss tera echo comes to mind, I barely used it live just for small parts some gigs but it could be a really interesting addition through an FL studio track, at the end of the day no plugin would sell sounding like a terra echo hah
I have to challenge the idea of plugins being soulless. Add a tape plugin with some flutter and wow dialled in, add a distortion plugin and then whack it through some book-ended EQ and you have a unique-to-you plugin delay or chorus or whatever. I love practical effects save use then when budget allows, but rarely do they provide something you can't fake well enough in the mix!
Love doing this 👌
Great tutorial man! Always fun to come back to this one
What tutorial? It was more of a suggestion.
thanks bro, you really know your stuff and helped come to grips with it.
Thank so so much for making it easy to understand u help a lot of people
Thanks. I know this is a few years old now but I was struggling with the Line level/Instrument level back into my pre-amp and of course the DI box was the solution.
Mixing Engenier Vance Powell has been using this technique for years now... he even sticks them to his effects Rack with Velcro.
What a great idea. Have been re-amping essentially to get my pedals in the chain (not necessarily the amp itself). Now with a dry DI guitar track I can use my pedals and not worry about microphones and their placing, but get the effects I want on it. Top tip.
Yes! No mics, but instead a DI. Let me know how it works out!
Would it work if I went from my interface straight to the effect and then straight from the effect to the preamp?
I´m going to use guitarist's analog delay (EHX memory man, nothing special) for vocal in "half acoustic song". I tried it even without reamp box and results were quite satisfing - much warmer than digital simulations I had chance to hear and nice feel of depth in the song. I was waiting till the end you´ll show something. Maybe it would be awesome to tell us in next video your wildest idea with these stomp boxes...
Yeah, I have been doing some work around the studio and had to make a quick video. Glad to hear you thought the analog delay was better than plug ins. It's amazing how many good effects are out there.
Can't wait to try this! I have a reamp box and a direct box coming to me soon. :)
Nice!
Thanks, mate!
That is a DIY reamp box. It also has an attenuator so that you can play with the level and get really creative. It's $59 plus a little soldering (took me five minutes to make). I have 3 and use them all the time! Thought that would help anyone who can't afford a radial one.
Couldn't figure out why my Digitech Trio was sounding so bad... and then stumbled on your video. After watching your video, I think I've got a high/low impedance thing going on. Thanks, Ryan.
I've actually used a simulated clean guitar preamp in my daw to get some really cool and clicky kick drum sounds.
The ''blue box'' is the Radial ProRMP 1-channel Passive Re-Amping Device
I usually put a Boss DS-1 on a snare drum and screw it up, then print that and blend it in for texture
Very cool!
Excellent
great channel!
Thanks I'll have to try it sometime.. I have both of those boxes. :)
Sweet!
Interesting video, and got me thinking about what I need for this very purpose. Thanks! Like others, however, I would have appreciated more detail. For instance, will the re-amp and DI boxes change the tone of original performance AND the pedal in the effects loop? Can this be helped? Can you run this into an interface's DI input instead of DI box --> preamp? etc.
FINALLY someone who actually explained this in a clear way. Thank you so much!
I believe my Buzz Audio MIA will do this all in one, reamp and DI, but if not, it can do the reamp duty and then my interface has a HiZ input anyway. I want to use the Reecho Pro.
Awesome video! Good explanation. Since most reamp boxes are mono how would you handle stereo pedals? Would you need to reamp boxes and 2 di boxes?
The Eventide Space (pedal) works awesomely well. Especially in stereo.
Gosh I bet that sounds amazing in stereo.
Hi! Thanks for a very cool video!
I'm also interested in learning how to use this technique.
Over the years I collected a bunch of different guitar stompboxes/pedals by BOSS and other vendors. For example, a wha-wha, many distortion pedals, a digital delay, an ensamble chorus, a tremolo, etc.
For my "home studio setup" I use a Win 10-computer, a USB Audio Interface (AI) by Steinberg called "UR44". It has 4 "good quality" pre-amps (D-pre's) in it that equals to: 2 MIC/Hi-z and 2 MIC/Line Inputs on the card. My DAW is Cubase Pro 10.
My question is, would I also need to have all the other equipment you mentioned, the DI-box, the pre-amp and the re-amp box? Or could I skip the DI-box at least, since the card should already provide with that "signal conversion"? Could I just connect a guitar stompbox directly to one of the MIC/Hi-z input on the Audio card itself? Or would I still need a re-amp box at least?
I want to try this out because I hope it would open up many, new possibilites for me when recording/mixing in my home studio.
Ty for any advice! :D
Could you also hook it up to a mixer aux?
would have like to see you set it up ...still don't know how to do it
I use the 1818vsl interface, Littlelabs 3D phantom re-amp box DI box with a Boss GT-8 effects board and a cheap old semi broken Fender amp that only works on one setting.
Thank you Ryan, would love too meet you in person one day. 😎
Wow dude, your set up sounds sweet. Would love to meet you too. Where about in the world are you?
I am researching using effects pedals with audio interface for my live rig. I have just got a Macbook pro with guitar rig 6. I am using a Native instruments audio 6 interface. The reason behind this is I got fed up of carrying big amp stacks around. I have collected a lot of useful pedals which I hope to hook up. I like my Decimator for noise reduction. I have an Eventide H9 and a TC electronic nova. I am thinking of hooking up the guitar to the decimator then into the interface. The other effects I want to plug in from the out of the interface. The logic behind this is that it is less work for the Mac and I will be able to change patches and switch effects on and off live. Maybe eventually midi it all up and have my DAW change effects so I don't have to stomp on a box with my foot. I can just put everything into a sports bag and go to a gig on the bus.
This video was exactly what I was looking for. This is a "huge deal" to be able to achieve what you described, really very very cool .... However !
I'm gonna echo the other posts... Please come back with another video and give...
1. examples of exactly what the blue pedal is, manufacturer etc
2. The same with the black pedal
3. do an example showing everything hooked up. Big Thanks
Can I substitute the DI box with a USB interface instead? (Focusrite Scarlett Solo)
Also, for multi-effects units like the Boss ME-80 or the Line 6 stuff which have direct record, is it better to use the direct record or do I place an audio interface in between the effects unit and the computer?
why using a D.I box ? can you just use the soundcard preamps instead?
What kind of preamp were you using? That’s the only piece of equipment I’m missing from this setup. Thanks for the information, great video!
I thought you only need reamp to convert mic > line level aka low-z > hi-z... why do you need the reamp box to go from an interface's line level out into pedals? Isn't the line-out of an interface the same impedance as any keyboard out or regular line level instrument that can be used with pedals?
can i use daw effect for performing live & can i use padels too with it.?
Hold on, so here's what I want to do. I have a Behringer X1204USB mixer. I want to plug a noise gate pedal into the aux send and return. Can I simply do that? Or do I need these pre-amps?
I focus on the mixer. What kind of mixer you use?
so, does this work??
guitar or any other instrument into guitarlooper into audiointerface into daw ??
REEEEAAAALLLLY wished you showed the setup so I could physically follow since so many of these words went over my head BUT I’ll use what I have. Thanks for the video🤘🏼
It what be great if you actually show us with direct example and sound samples
Hi do you know how to hook it up and how to use it to add say reverb on a track when mixing
I have used my Eventide Time Factor to do this. The delays are better than any plugin that I have tried. This is maybe due to the fact that I know the Eventide so well.
Can I use something like a patchbay to keep all my pedals hooked up and easily pick and choose which pedals I want to use at any particular time?
Great concept but u lost me in the explanation
1 when u referring to this box (blue one) what is it
2 demonstrate how it will be set up from A to Z
3. You mentioned in beginning u would only need 1 additional box but it looks like ull need more than that so identify each component
4 Thanks
1. - Yes indeed.....What is 'This Box' he refers to at 1:49 ? Throughout the video he refers to it as 'this' and 'this' and how 'this' is revolutionizing recording but never identifies it as a Reamp box or brand/model....
he did say that it's a reamp box... just sayin
and you would only need one additional "Box" to your DAW, which is the preamp - imo
Radial Engineering Pro RMP Passive Reamping Direct Box ($100)
He kinda says reamp box at 1:12
@@limestone_xyz the additional box is a DI box, which is before the signal goes to a preamp. So, signal chain is: Audio Interface Out -> reamping box -> guitar pedals -> DI Box -> preamp -> A/D Converter -> DAW
Do you think I could do a chain like this?
Guitar>Instrument in 1>line out>reamp box>instrument in 2
Im getting really confused with all the different levels
hei, this is a great video, I have some questions though, what if I have a Stereo In/Out Pedal, what kind of reamp do you recommend in that case, and if my interface has build in preamps can I take the stereo outputs of my pedal directly into interface?! thank you
Thanks for this! I'd love to hear some examples if possible. For our initial demo tracks we did bass direct through my pedal board going out of a sansamp but didn't have a reamp box in front and that's why we ended up micing the cabs for the real recording. this could be a whole series because it's right up my alley! btw, I saw the countryman box. What are your thoughts on that when side by side with a sansamp?
Hmm, well the sansamp is a staple around studios. It's a great way to get a distorted bass sound. But it's a different type of deal. I use the countryman for clean-as-possible type recording of guitar and such. I use a passive DI for a little more flavor for the bass. Me did a shootout once against an Avalon and it was just as good or better. The reamp box just converts signals from a DAW into the guitar world, so a reamp box is it's own thing.
If i make a loop in a looper pedal , can i record it simple by conecting the pedal to an interface?
Can I use an Interface instead of a DI box?
Hi Ryan, my interface only has 2 main outputs, I want to be able to use an outboard compressor and remap tracks and use guitar pedals when mixing. I was thinking of getting the big knob so I could send one output of it to my monitors and the other to a compressor or reamo box and be able to switch between both on the big knob and then back into the interface to record.
Do you think this would work?
Would I lose and quality in the audio?
Or do you have any other solutions to allow me to use outboard equipment with only 2 main ohyouts on my interface?
Thanks
Alex
I would really like to try out the extc by radial and use that to control my guitar fx post recording . My only concern would be latency induced signals . Is ok to move a wave track back a few milliseconds or use another tool like the ibp by littlelabs to align the signal back into a session to blend with the original signal ? Also how would you use delay and reverb if stereo was desired ? Wouldn’t that mean I would need two extc boxes and two ibp’s ?
Will the sandamp be good to use as di then I have a bass pedal and di for other pedals to go through or dose it not work like that,?
Hey man great video. I understood your point with the DI box, but my question is, is there any real noticeable changes with or without the DI box? Let's say I'm just sending my signal from one of my outputs on the interface to bring it back to one of the inputs and record the processed signal. Would that be considerably noticeable without having the box?
Same question
What’s the name of the first box?
Ryan, so would be that signal chain?
Play the track you want through one of the outputs of your interface (that would be line, not mike despite the xlr cable, but balanced) than into the reamp box , the the output of the reamp (that would be unbalanced, but line level) into the pedals.
Afted the pedals, into the input of the DI box then into the preamp (an instrumemt preamp of an interface for instance)
What about guitar pedals into vocals? From the pedals into the DI and then to a mike preamp of the interface?
Is that right?
Can you tell me the chain setup? Like Amp, DI Box, Daw, Pre-Amp and maybe some brands to look at as well. thanks
So im extremely new to all of this. So i may be misunderstanding.
But I have an interface that has line outputs (1/4"), can I just run an output to the pedals, then back into the interface? Because the purpose of the blue box you have is to convert xlr to 1/4", right? So if i already have a 1/4" output I can just run 1/4" through everything then back into my interface that has preamps built in.
I would like your opinion... You mentioned, a DI box is needed. Wouldn't a preamp with a Hi-Z input (for electric guitars or basses) be sufficient for sending the signal back in the DAW?
Without the DI box, the signal will clip right? But what if I had all my effects in the chain in the most minimal level, would it still clip? I'll be using a Presonus AudioBox 96.
Perfect! i have a question if you don't mind. Can i reamp a guitar track that i have already recorded using my sm57 + Vox ac15 + overdrive +Eq +Distortion pedals ? (no effect pedals). I want to record my basic tone and add effect pedals later in a separate track. is it possible? i already have the Radial PRO-RMP. Does the reamping box work only on DI tracks? thank you:)
My pedals like chorus or delay all work fine even without a di box if I go straight into the interface except the distortion pedal...why? Can you help me?
Can these pedals be used for only like guitar and vocals or more things because guitar is amid range instrument? Was thinking of making the big sky my main reverb for my daw would that be a good idea thanks ?
So we can’t go directly from chain back into an input that has a line/instrument switch? My Focusrite 4i4 for example has this option and I assumed was there specifically to change to line level..?
So this setup he is referring to goes like this:
Sound Source > Re Amp Box > Effects Chain > D I Box > Computer Interface/ Mixer
Is that right
is it possible to resample saved drum kits back into your daw using only an audio interface and the guitar pedal itself ??
Yep, you can play anything you want out to the guitar pedals.
Cool video! Did someone tried using a germanium booster? Is it good for adding some grit to a track?
So I have a T Rex Replicator pedal that uses real tape for saturation/delay/chorus, and I’ve wanted to use it to add some tape saturation to my mixes by putting not just one instrument through it but a whole project. The problem is I only have the 1 pedal and it has only 1 mono input and 1 mono output 😰 so I’m not sure how to go about this lol
How can I do this with my Steinberg UR22?? Is it possible? It only got 2 Outputs... I really hope you can help me out.. Thanks
You've convinced me, but what in the name of the Transparent Bison Who Controls Us All is "this [blue] box"? Perhaps you could favor us with the model, brand name and/or generic category (as you did with, to use your hermetic terminology, the "direct box").
Does the impedance match using a transparent pedal like wha /whammy /volume directly into a audio Interface?
Wanting to use these pedals with bias amp sim!
Thanks
Can I do this technique with a radial duplex. which is basically a jdi passive box x2
I'm hands on, showing the connections etc... Would have been a big help.
How about this.
From Electic Guitar itself to Effect Pedal to computer and record with Guitar Recording Software.
Is that even possible?
Coz I dont have any Interface only of those.
great video! i've seen your videos a while back and they helped me out a lot but I forgot to subscribe. did now. I have a question. If I have an instrument level input on my interface, do I need the DI box?
Nope, just go in from the pedals into the DI. That's what it's designed to do, unless you want to experiment with different DI circuits. Type 85 and JDI are ones that I use and respect.
Thanks a lot!
Hi Ryan, have u seen these UMC204HD behringer interfaces? These come with "insert" inputs, one for each input channel wich i guess does the same as what u were saying... Or am i sayin nonsenses?
isn't an active reamp box better for this purpose than passive?
So how to put an analog delay pedal etc behind a distorted amp sim (so the delay wont get distorted) for a guitar running trough a focusrite 6i6 second gen? No problem putting the delay in front of everything. Problem is getting that delay after amp sim.
Yes does it work. Show us
dang buddy, no playtime demo?
Hi! great video!
one question, It's freaking me out...if I would want to use this chain :
guitar ---> overdrive pedal ---> daw (amp simulator VST) ---> delay pedal
Delay should be at the end of the chain (REAMP) but... what about the overdrive? no possibility to use on the reamp section, isn't it? I think there is no possibility to insert the AMP SIM between both pedals in the REAMP section.
Thanks in advance!
I would say that go with it and don't fret. Come back in a couple days and see if you still like how it sounds. Give it time and it'll be clear if it was a bad idea or not sonically.
Thank you! I just received the reamp so I'll be doing some test next week. Thanks again!
So the signal chain will be guitar->pedals->reamp->audio interface? am i right?
Exactly what I was willing to do for a while. Got a bunch of guitar pedals that I can't substitute with plugins (although I might find good VST alternatives eventually). And I don't like to record with pedals - especially for double tracked guitars since effects tend to behave a bit differently in stereo.
BUT that also requires an interface with at least three outputs, right? And that's completely different price range from cheap 2i/2o usb interfaces :( Not sure if I want to upgrade solely for this purpose...
Yeah, you have a good point. If your first two outputs are occupied by your left and right monitors then you'd need at least a 3 output. Of coarse you can always disconect your right monitor to feed a pedal, and use the left to monitor. It's a pain but it can be done.
example: daw-interface output-reamp box-pedal-interface HIZ input- daw
is it correct, in this case, bypass the DI?
Dose any one know of video of this actauly working live run ?
I gate toms and distort the hell out of them. Then I blend them back in parallel. It sounds cool. You have to check the alignment and rotate the phase coming back in though.
Sounds like it would sound really cool man. I love distorting stuff and blending in subtly.
I am curious if the analogue guitar modulation pedals (such as phaser/flanger) are actually better than the plug ins? Guess I have to try it out to find out!
Yeah, I would love to compare them, but I don't own the softward or want to spend money on it. Pretty sure the real thing smokes the emualtions, but the emulations are easy to adjust if you change your mind on the settings ect.
I like to record my keyboard with its own effects, effects that I edit myself on the keyboards. But, one time a guy confused me saying that we should record the keyboard turning off all the effects so he can add effects from the plug ins in protools. Please tell me that he was wrong.
Well there is more flexibility when you don't include your effects on top of the dry sound. It's hard to compressed a keyboard sound if there is tons of reverb or delay on it already.
you are the man, computers are stupid BS and I have a plethora of guitar pedals. now I know how I want to mix my music.
Does anyone know if this can be done with fl Studio ?