The Triple ADC Meta Is F@*king Insane
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- The League meta has got quite strange recently.
A few months ago, everyone heralded the death of the ADC role but now - it’s not uncommon to see team comps with three AD Carries - in soloq and in pro play.
So what is the triple ADC meta, how has it happened, and what is Riot doing to change it?
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I love how the adc role went from unplayable to the most op in one season and created a whole meta
Nope the ADC CHAMPS are op, not really the role. Funny how the good adc champs in solo lane are not really the best in bot
@@cainco98Welp, time to pull out the kitten. A.K.A. Rengar.
@@cainco98 Now everyone can be lucian!
ADC as a role (bot) is garbage. ADCs (the champions) in the solo laning roles (mid and top) are the broken ones.
Still going to have ADC mains complaining as shown in the replies
This is quite literally the worst mid lane meta ever. It's a sad change from Orianna, Azir, Seraphine, Syndra, or Taliyah
this are boring picks as well assasin are getting hard fucked so often it is boring
These are boring back line no skill range spam, some more annoying than marksperson (e.g hwei and aurora, completely unskilled spamfest)...
The most fun to play and watch mid is assassin's due to their mechanical outplays, burst, mobility, but when they are good they will require no skill to burst someone with like 2 abilities, but if someone stuns assassin they are dead, and they practically can almost never kill tanks, so they are not nearly as terrible...
@@mistahstyle ur right the only soultion would be to make assasin combos harder to hit to be able to oneshot i am talking about talon nafiri and etc so they become like zed, yas (yas aint a assasin but u get the idea)
@@user-gf6kl8bp2w assassin's like kayn are also ok granted their assassination takes a considerable amount of time (assuming they're not crazy fed or in the S+ meta) and can be stopped, but then I see Nafiri W point and click someone decimating them in like 0.2 seconds without having a single kill and it's hard to heal / shield against it since naafiri just bleeds it
@@mistahstyle lets just end this with riot employers are paycheckstealers
You forgot to mention the removal of tenacity which were taken by most fighters and now supports and jungles who generally go hard CC pair well with adcs who never really cared to take that rune or build path that nerf alone made it not ideal for fighters and other classes being forced to take mercs when it is MR and some adcs have CCs whether it is a slow or hard CC is now incredibly punishing. Btw 2 of the 3 tenacity items besides potion are with MR and not armor.
I like how a while back they said that they hated CC and anything that keeps player from playing the game. Yet they practically remove tenacity 😂
It's only a matter of time until people figure out to pocket pick Draven mid and top and permaban Malphite.
Adc players will always say their role is weak purely because they need help from teammates so that adds to a feeling of no agency over the game when you have shit teammates
Its really funny that just the reliance on a support makes the role so weak that for ADC to be even fun in botlane, they are turbo broken in solo lanes
look what adcs are being played on side lane : ADCs who have a lot of self peel, trist/ ezreal/ zeri, immobile adcs who ussually do the most dmg are still abysmal
@@noksss3546 idk man, ever played kogmaw braum with a braum that has hands? Or jinx thresh with a thresh main?
@@Cindersauruss only certain adcs you cant take jinx top or mid or aphelios top or mid, kog if you take it mid you are going ap anyways, the problem is certain adc have over loaded kits that even in bot lane you cant trade against them like draven and lucian early game i cant trade in lane and have to be pushed in unless my support giga gap their supports.
@@dvdmiller im confused on what this means or has to do with what you said earlier
its almost like if you ignore tanks so hard all you get is efficient damage dealers. They are so scared of bringing back a tank meta from season 5 that they just buff the hell out of damage. ADC doesn't have an identity because their identity is being late game players but when the late game is just 2 items then there really is no late for an ADC to have an identity. Reduce damage, bring back tanks, and have a proper combat triangle for roles and all of a sudden everyone has an identity and the game is a lot less snowball
amen brother aint this the truest shit. My job as aphelios should be to kill the enemy tank while avoiding and having my team peel assassins off me. the role of the consistent damage class should be to kill tanks which more bursty champs cannot.
nah you see the tank is the one that one shots you while also one shotting your teammate, but also your team, and the tower, but also just regenerates all the damge you've done in 2 seconds
@@Sinaeb This is K'Sante, a champion with 4,700 HP, 329 Armor, and 201 MR, has Unstoppable, a Shield, and goes over walls. Has Airborne, and the cooldown is only 1 second too. It costs 15 Mana. The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms. He has true damage on his passive. Then, when he stacks Armor and MR, he gets Ability Haste too, Ability Haste to his Q, and his spell casting speeds up. Then, he has an AD ratio, so his W…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
delusional, nasus and mundo are s tier right now, just scale and run towards the enemy team, if you are behind, split until until you get 2-3 items, now go back to step 1. if tanks were tanks sure, but tanks now deal as much if not more damage than any other role, seeing mundo top the damage charts and complaining tanks are not tanky is deranged low elo behaviour.
@@Myhaay exactly my point. The issue isn't that ADCs have no identity. It's that nothing has an identity. They just slapped damage onto everything and called it a day. Make Tanks Tank. Give all the roles their identity back instead of everyone just 1 shotting everyone and forcing people to play characters that are most efficient at 1 shotting each other. Bring back counter builds and adaptive build orders.
The removal of Lethal Tempo somehow lead to more adc presence 😂
I left bot lane to switch to top. Now I'm playing against bot laners, but as aatrox😢
I feel like Malphite top, Rammus jungle would have an absolute blast in these games
I leave League and ADC goes from nonexistent to the crux of the meta, what. Also the copypasta at 3:58 is hilarious, I recommend reading the whole thing LOL
For me personally this meta lasts way to long. A meta like this is okay for a short period in my opinion, but for a long time the comps always look the same, many champs lost their identity and so on. Riot fucked it in my eyes really up this split, no wonder people are quitting.
Damage values are too high. Across the board. People die instantly. Getting instantly erased is so normal now that the only way to fix the problem of sustained DPS being useless is to make their sustained damage equivalent to burst damage. At which point there's no reason to pick them.
When everyone is killing eachother instantly, the ability to sustain that instant death from target to target at range is the most powerful thing. This used to be curbed by the fact ADC's didn't (Except a few lol) so ADC's were terrible. But now they do, so why pick anyone else? This is just going to be an unending balance nightmare until Riot commits to having characters survive longer than 0.1 seconds.
Seriously why doesnt Riot just nerf damage and stats across the board? The buff to hp and hp per level was useless when everyone does a ton of damage anyways.
Its incredible how they just undid the durability patch they made seasons ago…. and it became even worse now.
Its not even close to as much damage as before the durability updated this is still ok. You used to die to wukong that did E-AA-Q now it does 50% of your hp, you used to die to one unfed ahri combo, one syndra W-E...
Who wouldve guessed that an XP deflated role would be OP once it gains Solo lane XP ?
Same what happened with jungle funneling but not as severe.
Honestly we should just play mages bottom and adc mid right now. 😂
Phreak did not 😂😂😂
it's called "Phreaks"-law
ADCs get buffed by him to the point that all 5 roles can play them (e.g. Zeri, Kindred, Corki, Jinx, Ashe)
To be fair, kindred is really bad
slap in Zeri as Jungle and go Varus Top and this is golden
ShowMaker tried Draven and Chovy tried Zeri on stream around early or mid July. Although I'm more familiar with ShowMaker's reason with Draven --- he wanted to try it out as a counter to Tristana.
I will say, one of the most fun games ive had recently was into a quinn top, trist mid, and zeri bot. I played malphite top and my buddy played rammus jungle and we just absolutely ran the adcs over with 800 armor each in team fights
Damn this sounds fun there a way we can get the replay?
@gustavofelix3403 lol good question, I didn't think to save the replay. Just tossing out an example for folks to actually have some fun themselves in this trash meta.
I want a champion that whenever an ADC is in direct line of sight, he can just press ult and they die
The best solution is just let bot lane scale with levels along with solo laners and then balance marksmen around being the same level as solo laners. Because even now, marksmen solo lane is busted but in the bot lane they are still just meh. Almost every mage out performs marksmen in the bot lane in every elo. Just give the xp penalty to supports since they aren’t csing anyways. Plus no role likes being 1v1ed by the support. This would prevent situations like Vayne being viable top lane but a troll pick bot
Everyone moaned all the time when adcs were bad for years but now no one is saying "yesss adc is the bestt"
Phreak trying to hit Challenger this season
Disclaimer! I haven't watched the video yet I just saw the title and I'm so glad someone is talking about it. Triple ADC is the most boring thing to watch in pro play. Especially Corki Tristana mid matchup.
I guarantee there are still a substantial number of ADC mains that will still say it's the weakest role. I say to those people "actually shut up", Riot needs to nerf ADC items asap because ranged top lane is the most cncer thing to play against as a top laner and I don't even play top but I know how bad it is. They need to buff top lane and nerf bot lane. We've had an ADC meta for too long. Top laners have all had the experience of getting ahead of their opponent but bot lane goes 0/2 in 5 minutes, the game is basically lost unless enemy team super ints.
I mean when you have bruiser champs like garen building PD, IE, LDR/Mortal every game you know some items are a bit busted.
I'm so glad I quit playing, but I still love watching the esport and I'm super hyped for worlds 2024 (COME ON T1) but this ADC meta has to change before then or it's gonna be super boring to watch. I miss the skill expression of mages/ap assassins like Azir, Orianna, Taliyah, Ryze, Ahri, Akali, Neeko, Sylas, the list goes on.
The issue is that ADC is intrinsically associated with Auto-Attackers instead of it being balanced between roles. Damage Carry should just be a role that certain characters try to fulfill in different ways, your mid lane should be a cool down carry and your bot lane an auto attack carry, differentiating between burst and sustained damage. The sustained damage of an auto attack carry and range should allow the auto attackers to kill tanks, where as tanks survive the cool downs of initial burst carries. League doesn't have strictly defined roles and delineations between each character's role because of the rune system, bruisers could be split pushers who duel well in lane but crumble in teams because they need cooldowns and auto attack damage procs from said cooldowns down to win duels, making them very capable of funneling their resources into skirmishes but not solo carry potential. Assassins should be supportive characters that prevent enemy win conditions by stifling carries early-mid game while helping tanks stop split pushing bruisers mid-late game. Tanks should rely on their cooldowns for cc, not damage, and impact team fights by working with supports and off carries to single out enemy carries and kill them, while supports should help carries make it to late game and counteract assassins mid-late game to protect their carries, while funneling gold and resources to carries early to help the snowball roll.
Rammus says Okay.
My question is... Isn't this a thing from the start?
Being playing since S3, this has been the case for multiple seasons, like Vayne/Quinn top, Graves (previous adc) jungle, some variation of ez/trist mid with the adc.
This is not "news" this is just what happens. Or am i tripping?
They're probably a bit stronger now, so people are finally figuring it out and it's popular in pro play. I definitely agree that this has been a thing pretty much every season just not widely picked up.
Idk why people still play league. Every patch the game has some insanely fucked shit that every person in the community bitches about.
I've seen people complain about this, but this is one of the coolest metas I've seen naturally emerge in a long while. I hope riot lets this rock for a little bit and doesn't try and throw every ADC into the woodchipper over this.
Shake ups are good! Let the players do new stuff!
It's strange, I remember a time when ADC wasn't a problem role. A time when it didn't get instantly deleted and didn’t get picked every lane either.
Does anyone else remember that time? If you said "that existed before assassins became a thing, before supports got mountains of free gold to do insane damage, when jungles needed to prioritize utility over damage because they simply didn'thave enough income" then you are correct.
It's almost like throwing gold at every role and letting every role be able to do absurd amounts of damage has repercussions on game health.
ADC isn't the problem, riot caving to the "everyone needs to do damage" nonsense is. When there is so much damage in the game ADCs will be useless but if buff ADCs to be able to survive the damage while letting them keep their damage, the literal thing they are designed to do, then the game breaks.
ADCs are not unhealthy anymore than the QB role is unhealthy in football. The unhealthy thing is trying to change the game so every role can be the QB and then scratching your head when the game breaks.
buff assassin and bring them back,this meta is boring af.
@@naerolf09bro shut up don’t tell people or he will get nerfed.
@@chrismarple my fault ill delete the comment
Honestly most assasin players adapted years ago and playing the most boring games atm. For example assasin vs mage, lets say akali vs syndra/orianna, > doran shield second wind merc boots flash tp avoiding laning phase , abusing the fact that most mages early game also nerfed many times, aery comet and other runes also nerfed, double doran ring not possible. Same for melee vs melee, akali vs sylas, both stay afk farm creeps with q and almost never interract with each other since in this matchup the one who started trade usually losing, great, not boring for sure. In earlier seasons especially s5-7 mage vs mage was fun and very hard to play since every click matters and there are no ways to comeback since mages was doing real damage with items. Assasin vs assasin was pure madness with alot of trades like zed vs talon and every single kill and cs was important. Mage vs assasin was also fair and not boring and alot more skillbased than nowdays, s5 feed fizz/talon can solo carry games if ahead, but if they behind and lost lane hard there is nothing u can do, just melee creep. What nowdays ? Insanely feed assasins doing nothing against brusers and can be oneshotted by cait, kaisa, aphelios, sometimes doesnt matter how feed u are since u cant actually carry games. At the same time 0 3 0 -20/30 cs kid on akali can press right combo once and kill feed orianna, ap jungler for no reason, some cringe botrk ad katarina abuser can int for 15 minutes and randomly comeback after just 1 fights, irelia with botrk can just permadive her worst matchup ( vex ) just get kills and die nonstop. Why they should buff assasins if literally nothing works and any buffs doesnt change this scenarios that much.
And ADC's will still say their Champs are weak
Immobile ads are garbage
Will never forget the good old (!) days when mages were the only dudes you saw mid :D
what i hate most about the triple adc meta as a mid laner is seeing my top laner pick adc and then jungle picks some assassin or jg and my team has zero frontline and then the worst part is they think they have the skill to pull it off. im in gold m8 not one us in this elo has the skill for that ive seen it go so well just for us to lose every team fight and every objective because they cant play the 5v5 section of the meta
8 year away from playing league and not one ounce of missing it and i love it
This is what happens when you let an ADC main balance the game.
No? Phreak is a support main
It's wild that people are making such a fuss. At the start of the season the role was so useless that I'd see double long range burst mages bot just tearing it up. Once upon a time you could take 5 tanks and increase your chances of winning. Between those having 2-3 assassins was a more than viable strategy. It's just another phase, it will pass, and next time maybe we'll have the 5 support meta.
They need to bring back assassin mid lane meta
*Damn, I miss the time where zed can be played in mid in pro stage*
The problem is solo q vs pro play
You need 2 different patches by now 1 for solo q and 1 for Pro play
Fearless draft would help. Maybe not fix it completely, but help... Sick of seeing the same champs in every game over and over again...
Malphite, rammus & Rengar players are probably loving this meta right now
Idk but ADCS are ranged assassins now.
The problem was never the ADC damage which is what riot failed to see. It's XP diffs and how much they give supports control in lane over the ADC. They overtuned some supports forsure and now to compensate they are overtuning ADCs, now the games a mess. Good job riot.
Very true.
If funny cuz I feel now you have a worse time playing adc in the bot lane, specially if you’re playing adc without dash like Xayah Kong maw, because all the supports are mid laners (at least in low/mid elo) like vel, hwei, teemo, lux so you get poked but since you also have a Ziggs or smth you get no peel. So having more agency, 1v1 and relying on yourself in other lanes like mid and top makes you stronger
Wow it’s almost like ballooning your champ list and literally never fucking stopping making changes to so many aspects of every part of the game isn’t a great idea for consistency or stability
Oh you think 3 adc's is crazy? Wait till you hear the full adc comp of Vayne Top, Kindred Jg, Tristana mid, Ashe and Kalista Bot
I feel like a lot of people forgot season 5 Adc meta. It was common to see 4 or even 5 adcs on a team. Quinn rework just happened and Ksante didn't exist yet
It's unplayable at bot lane since the other lanes gets more exp anyway so if I play it bot lane I'm always under lvl vs mid and top so now we are preventing them too get there so we get the exp we need and the gold we also needed for our very expensive items
I love how they draws demon feature on the thumbnail except for corki. Like that guy already a demon or smth
“You need to have Vanguard running to play”
1:30 but its 3 items vs no armor 🤔
Hate that adc are stupid strong right now but is way funnier seeing this than literally 2 adc picked in an entire tournament like the sivir/zeri or aphelios/jinx meta. One of the best solution would be lowering adc mr in early imho.
I was having fun this season playing ADC except in the games where there are other ADCs in the team comp. Idk. I don't envy the balance team.
if there's a meta that riot should bring back it should be assassins meta, I want to see zed back in pro play
Zed doesn't have cc you would get yone or qiqi over zed
@@TonFGaming so many other champions don't have cc yet somehow people make it work, even tryndamere got picked by showmaker, if a patch comes that favors zed I don't see why not
We're back again with ADC on top after all their crying. Sigh classic. I remember when black cleaver stacking was so OP Miss Fortune bullet time just used melt people. Lets not forget the days of nidalee long range spear paired with pokers caitlyn,ashe and or ezreal. Just group up mid with those 3,toss spear,mystic shots and lay down caitlyn traps while hitting turrets. This is a cycle
I'm still surprise no one try to play assasin in LCK but to be pair i'm a noob compare to them.
The problem is that over the years riot dug there own grave… where back in the day a role had 1 job but new riot employees thought hey lets make every roll do every thing and now you have shit like ornn, zeri, Kaisa, Kasante, and the list gose on …
To top this off riot dosent know that they dont get to change 2 aspects of the game at the same time like items and champs …
Just give me Season 3 back Riot and remove all the new shit
I really like this imbalance, because when it does break it'll do so dramatically. When it's tanks or bruisers on top they just get slightly more boring until the meta gets"fixed." When the adc's come down it'll be one shots and broken keyboards everywhere.
League's biggest problem is the balance team. They nerf every other lane but buff ADC. Now ADC is too strong and everything back to square one again instead of the game being balance. The never ending failures of League's balance team. I dont understand why they didn't just nerf every other role and just leave adc where it was instead of buffing the fuck out of it and nerf the fuck out of other roles.
The game is suffering from to much to balance. You simply can’t balance this many different champs, along with the fact that all new ones have so much in the kit.
something about all AP character using 30 items, then every other character using the other 5 million. plus back last season I found adc weakness was solved with solo laning and mages did really well in the botlane with a support.
I hope when they fix this it doesn’t negatively affect Xayah or Twitch :(
0:50 9/1 assassin flashes on a squishy and people want to act like that’s unhealthy? 🤔
I feel like senna is just a senna issue. She's the reason I stopped playing league at the start of the year and decided to literally just wait until riot changes the meta.
Why? As a assassin kayn I lost 70% of my HP before I could even reach senna to use my abilities. Just think about that, she could almost destroy me while I'm still in tbe wall, just because a ward spots me.
And the worst part of it all was that if you paired her with any shields, she'd be unkillable (unless riot decides to finally buff serpent's to a decent level. The only way serpent could even help in that scenario is if the item disabled the Champs' ability to gain new shields for a few seconds if the user of the item damaged them in any way.)
Senna is why Assassin's can't have nice things anymore... senna and pyke.
On the bright side, the jungle role becomes a lot more flexible with the rise of Nidalee, Brand, Zyra, Morgana, etc.
oh yeah, statikk shiv, that item that was brought back being turbo overpowered, then got nerfed, and is now back again and is even stronger than when it was first re-introduced. Just sack 95% of the item/champ balance teams, if this was any other job they would have been fired for incompetence years ago.
Nerf LDR back to 30% armor pen and see if that doesn't help solve multiple adcs being viable when stacking armor becomes better
over 10 years of changes gets you this Riot cannot balance their game to save their life garbage game and garbage company take me back to 2013
Idc that the meta isn't on track. Fuck the meta. I hate how predictable LoL has become with dedicated roles and lanes and stuff. I miss the days when you never know what champ or strat you'd be facing, when everyone was playing champs in off ways.
You mean like 13 years ago?
this still happens you just played the game way too much so nothing makes you "feel" that way, touch grass lil bro.
Definitely still happens as a newer player. It’s crazy to me seeing people try to play Yuumi jungle, but it happens.
I don’t mean this in a bad way and I don’t want to start a vs war here but it sounds to me like u might enjoy dota 2 more if that’s the case.
Why do we never see a large lethality buff fpr the pro play targeted balance patches 😢😢
Itd be so fun to watch 😂
Tldr: Adc role is useless because it's way too easy to shut them down. But adc characters become way too strong after 2+ items. So in high elo it has basically become a must have to have an adc as the enemy will have one. But with adc being strong you arr forced to have 1shot assassins. But how do you counter 1shot assassins? They can usually only kill 1 person every 5-10 seconds, so have more adcs! Kill one guy and your team will be 1shot by the others.
Dota 2 is the same way right now, literally just pick cores, maybe not farm heavy ones, but ones who fight early but are still good late. Literally just use one support, fuck using two.
I think the biggest problem with ADC is it's players even in pro play. Each player has their strengths and weaknesses in different playstyles, but they'll often try to adapt to the meta whether it's tanks, carries, enchanter, assassin, ect. They'll even complain about certain metas like I remember tank meta was an issue with a lot of people. BUT man the outrage from botlaners over the mage meta I felt was way worse than the outrage from any other lane when the meta didn't suit them. They're imo the most resistant to change or not being the wincon.
As a rammus main, i love this meta
I've been seeing quite a few wannabe adc abusers on midlane lately. It feels nice to obliterate them with a single Veigar r because they don't know how to play the matchup.
Was always like that AdC on solo lanes are op since Season 8.
Because Riot refuses the nerf solo lane adc . When Top Laner where played on bot it needed not long to nerf that shit.
When AdC and Mages get played Top it needs Months to nerf that 🤬
theScore esports video talking about the disgusting state of adcs 🔥🔥🔥
Vayne top, trish mid, varus kalista bot and graves jg. 5 marksman comp
r/ADCMains will not accept that their champs are op af, we all gotta suffer now to please ADCMains and Phreak, at least I could counter assassins so now instead of getting one shot by those, I get by ADCs from 600 range
Whenever adcs are meta the game turns to shit. Bruiser metas the game is actually fun
Idk why people aren't picking blitzcrank, rammus, or malphite at least in solo queue
The game is going downhill for years at this point, SoloQ and competetive as well. This is just another "bad meta" like others before.
The problem in my humble opinion is, at an unspecific point a few years and dozens of hard to balance champions ago, it just became too much for riot to handle or rather to keep at least somewhat balance to the game, where single adjustments to specific items did not entirely rip the game (hello ardent btw). And it makes sense, for when the game was actually "feeling balanced" it was rather boring to play and watch as well, this way, it feels like chaos and to an extend "dumb" but at least not boring in a classic sense.
I for one think, league's best days are over and there's no shame for riot trying to make the most of it while they still can.
If mages had decent items there wouldnt be this issue. But no riot is too afraid of then being op to make unique item effects
Rammus meta
As a malphite enjoyer I'm loving it
"Adc champs are week" , proceed to dominate almost every role!
I want to see assasins in pro play cuz of the amount of adcs
As a mid laner who sucks at using ADC is just horrible meta
ADCs get half a patch being strong and everyone whinges and it will probably get hot fixed, lethality, AP/ AD assassins and ksante are all strong for entire seasons and everyone sleeps.
The mid lane meta is so fucking trash and its fucking awful to play
You can take mages to bot lane and harass adc, thats cool. But when adcs come to your lane then "oh no what is this shit meta".
Shhhh, don't use logic like this. Obviously that was OK, because even tho there was 1 out of 5 games a Marksmen (ADC) actually had influence on them winning or loosing (which was the reason mages were Botlane btw) , the class was secretly super broken since Season 1, for all of the 14 seasons. :^)
For how long adc is playable on top ?
For how long bruisers are playable on bot ?
Adc event on last sezon was strong, and nów are broken as f...
Buff tower durability so lanes don't get decided 6-10 mins into game just cuz 1 team gets more grubs, funnel adcs with gold and then roll over teamfights with their massive wallet.
It probably comes from tanks being so OP. Riot refused to fix it, so we all went adc instead
This thing has even been happening in wild rift
I don't get why this is shocking people, this isn't even our first adc meta, hell it isn't even the second one from ardent to when the graves rework happened adcs just have always been strong and a VITAL role for the game, yet because they hold so much power they are not given any real priority to make decisions in a game. This is a true balance rito must work with but the biggest issue sadly is the player base, particularly adc players.
To put it bluntly they just dumb and cry when a 3/0 tank manages to kill them when they are 0/2 by themselves caught out and cry they will always, even in the clip you showed it was a 9/1 Fizz VS a 4/8 Lucian without his team, like OF COURSE YOU WILL DIE, and not expecting an assassin to kill you while playing the squishiest role is exactly the issue.
You are heavily biased in your view on the game... to a point you are cherry-picking metas to suite your opinion.
We also had metas in which a Bruiser on 1 item could roam (or TP'd but they nerfed it for this exact reason) bot and straight up run down ADC+Support (on 1 item) for a double kill... during the height of the Sunderer/Eclipse/etc. meta. In which jungler did this too... easily.
Yet you get people in this comment section yapping ABOUT "ADCs were always broken, the players just cried"... which are fucking delusional takes, man.
We also had metas in which every ADC besides Vayne was borderline unplayable cause the Tank would tank for a solid 20 sec, while only taking 5 sec to kill an ADC... In a 5vs5 btw not in a 1v1 "ADC gets picked off" scenario.
So... it's almost like League is a game with changing metas. And now it's the ADC metas turn... and I get it's frustrating as fuck, if you do not have ADCs in your champ pool. But guess what, buddy? The high dmg burst meta at the start of this year was also frustrating as fuck if you weren't playing an assassin/burst mage/anything that could get it's dmg out fast...
@@FR-dx5xc Dude, I ain't cherry picking anything, all I said was true. ADC's are the cry babies of league, and adc metas have come and gone. Both statements are true. Plus you want to say "Brusiers tp'd bot and got a kill and won the game so they were strong once" want to guess WHY they TP'd bot? Because it got THEIR bot ahead. Literally the game has ALWAYS been played around ADC's so don't give me that shit, just the first 3 sentences in you comment demonstrate that you lack the understanding of the game and its elements and just want to cry yourself.
Also edit but "Which every ADC besides Vayne was borderline unplayable" Highlights my points exactly where you straight up DELU if you think Vayne has ever reached a point where she far exceeded EVERY OTHER adc, especially in high elos, like again mate, you need to study in game design, or hell just look at the game till you finally learn something..
Unpopular opinion: the solution is not to nerf adc’s but buff everyone else. If we buffed assassins like they were in S3, it would be crazy to first pick an ADC mid into a zed counter pick. I’m sure faker would love to see assassins brought back.
So season 6? When games were like 15 minutes and the game was horrible for anyone who didn't have a pet ADC character.
I miss tank meta man
weird that adcs in botlane are very balanced but too strong in solo lanes.... hmmm... what could be the issue here... is it that levels are too strong in this game and the xp gap is often times too large? hmm.. (bring xp gap far closer, nerf adc damage output, gg I fixed the game, not that hard)
Riot is incapable of creating any semblance of balance
Adcs became playable in solo lanes because of the free 3-6 level advantage you get for being in a solo lane. Average gold value per level up is just under 1000. They are oppersting with the free 3000-6000 gold worth of stats advantage solo lanes have been enjoying for the last 3 years.
Go figure, more resources on a late game hyper scaler makes them scale faster.
Nerf solo lane exp to not be so turbo giga busted, and this problem vanishes and botlane itself becomes a playable role again.
But im sure riot will just hit every adc with the riot special and call it a day. I mean, those assassin and bruisers mains will throw a hissy fit if they cant kill a 16/0 adc while they are 0/12 and say "its cause im 3 levels up kekxd"
Riot is afraid of ADC+SUP being too strong. So they literally make Top=Mid=ADC+Sup. What a mess!
@@moelistic-r8n right? idk who decided the solution was handing solo lanes up to an effective 2 items lead for free was a good idea.
alright someone pls nerf armor pen items and buff tank items, thank you
I would rather have this all year than league of tanks
That is the true hell of league