Depp v. Heard - The Attorneys Who Broke It Down for the Masses
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With almost 300 million views among them, our superstar panelists have followed every twist and turn of the Depp v. Heard case. Join them as they discuss Lessons Learned from the Case; Effective Counsel - Reality v. Public Perception; Winning in the Court of Public Opinion; and more.
Emily D. Baker is Everyone's Favorite Legal Commentator & host of the top Entertainment News podcast, The Emily Show. Emily is a former Deputy District Attorney who shifted her focus to content creation on CZcams in late 2020. Since then, she has become a sought-after legal analyst and has been featured on ABC, NBC, BBC, The AP, and in Rolling Stone, People, and Insider. During her coverage of the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial, her channel grew to one of the top sources for trial coverage on CZcams, regularly having over 100,000 concurrent live viewers. With over 16 years of legal experience and over 10 years as a Deputy District Attorney, and a lifetime love of pop culture, Emily is able to break down the stories we are all talking about. Emily has garnered over 63 million views on CZcams with more than 38 million watch hours and built a passionate community across platforms.
Family Law Attorney Limor Mojdehiazad has provided analysis and commentary throughout the six week defamation trial between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard providing her audience with the law and facts as presented each day. With over 180 million views on content related to the trial, Limor has amassed over 480,000 TikTok supporters, launched a podcast entitled “Love & Order,” and has been featured on Court TV, NBC, BBC1, i24, Insider, and other outlets including various podcasts discussing her views on the case and social media’s impact on the court of public opinion.
Bruce Rivers has handled over 2,000 criminal cases. His experience includes trials and plea negotiations at both the state and federal levels. Bruce Rivers has achieved acquittals on cases ranging from DWI to first, second and third degree murder. He has also handled white collar and high profile cases requiring unique judgment and experience. He has represented lawyers in tough situations. Lawyers from all different types of firms feel very comfortable referring clients to his firm. Bruce's CZcams channel went public in mid 2019. Since then, he amassed over 36 million views and gained over 600k subscribers.
Peter L. Tragos is a Partner at the Law Offices of Tragos, Sartes & Tragos in Clearwater, Florida. He focuses his entire practice on fighting for injured victims of wrongful death, car accidents, premises liability, and negligent security cases. Mr. Tragos won a national championship while on the mock trial team at Florida State University College of Law, and as a trial attorney, has tried a host of cases from state to federal and criminal to civil. Recently, Mr. Tragos has expanded his research and sharpened his skills by reviewing and analyzing high-profile trials on his CZcams channel the “Lawyer You Know” which recently reached a milestone of 100k subscribers.
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Who else was waiting for Emily to say, “Elaine, turn on your mike.” 😂😂😂
When main stream media claim that the verdict is a setback for women, you begin to question all the bs you’ve believed coming from them in the past. This panel was amazing. Thank you all
This is surely a setback for women. Amber and Eliane have let down a lot of women by their falsehood.
@@mdkhusru As a woman, I second that.
I agree,they are hiding their role in
defamation towards J D.
Controlling ,turning the narrative around.
Exactly - we now know what true quality investigative journalism is and I’m never going back to mainstream media.
This trial has really exposed MSM's faltering status in our culture as hoards of people are turning more and more to specialty content creators for our information.
Emily’s comment about how Amber’s legal team may have relied too heavily on the UK case was spot on. They came in overly confident and lost everything.
Their confidence would not have been unjustified given the widely accepted view amongst legal insiders that it is extremely hard to win a defamation case in the US due to freedom of speech laws. It might seem obvious to some **now** that they lost, but that certainly wasn't the general legal belief beforehand. I don't think her team were being hubristic- they just weren't as good as Depp's team. Plus there's only so much you can do with an awful defendant.
Wasn’t the UK case Johnny having to prove that the Sun Newspaper printed an article that defamed him with malice? And the US case was Johnny having to prove that Amber wrote an article for the WaPo that defamed him with malice. The UK case a judge ruled that JD didn’t prove his case. The US trial the jury found that Amber defamed Johnny with malice. Two different things right?
But that trial HAS been criticised for being..a lot of funky things.
@@j.whiteoak6408 Amber and her team obviously didn’t pay attention to what was wrong with the UK case and just assumed they had this in the bag. How stupid. The UK judge also assumed that Johnny was violent because he’s an addict. Wtf is that about? Most addicts only hurt themselves.
@@pmready950 The problem is most people only read the verdict, not the process.
BlackBeltBarrister gave a quick rundown and found repeatable massive discrepancy of the Evidence Admission for JD and The Sun which strongly corroborate -Judge- Andrew Nicol is biased towards MSM.
These are the kinds of evidence Judge Penney Azcarate cannot admit into her trial to prevent bias despite the different legal process, and Amber and Elaine is having a hissy fit over this.
Anyone else remember when one of Heard’s lawyers objected to the answer to his own question? That was my favorite.
“You asked the question” was priceless
Rottenborn
😂😂😊😂
Yes, I remember that clearly. It was Rottenborn. (Did I type that correctly?) 😅
So what? Camille also objected to the answer for her question once, why does nobody pays attention to that fact?!
It's such an odd thing that someone claiming to be abused still calls the person by a more intimate address - Johnny, while Depp calls her Ms. Heard. Sometimes, it's little things like these that show you what's real.
Such a good point
Yes. I noticed this immediately and from then on, I was in doubt of Amber's claims
Exactly! I thought this from the beginning of the trial!
With the hindsight of her interview, it's even more ridiculous because she said she still very much cares about him. The man that just aired out all of their dirty laundry to the world, is going to cost her millions of dollars unless they can get an appeal, it has turned her from a relatively unknown in the public eye to someone distrusted and disliked.
I'm sorry ma'am, But what you said in that interview is so unrealistic that you are either lying or you really need to see someone about this.
@@GamerX13X when she flew to San Francisco & begged him to hug her & then crawled in the bed & begged to stay the night, I was sickened. He went to the couch & began crying! You know he just couldn't believe he's fallen for her crap especially for so long!!
Camille melted down Elaine to a bubbling mess of confusion. Elaine: “What, if anything, did I learn in Law School?”
@bobbwest 😂😂😂
I really hated Rottenborn's closing statement of "if you find one instance of abuse - you have to find him guilty of all (or abuse)"? It was such an overreach.
I laughed when Johnny said Mr. Rottenborns name. It sounded so funny.
What killed me was "Objection.... ?!? ....Unintelligible?!" OMG... ...Camille, the absolute LEGEND! 🤣😂
Bruce's impression of Dr. Spiegel was spot on! Laughed my butt off when I saw that.
I went online and brought up the actual paperwork from court in the uk. I read the 14 allegations of violence that were presented by amber heard, and they are not consistent with what was presented in the US case. They are certainly similar, but definite differences…yet Johnny’s responses never changed from then to now. To me, that seals it. If you’re telling the truth you don’t have to keep track of your lies, your story doesn’t change.
If you always tell the truth, you don't need a hobod memory.
Don't forget the sleepy judge who constantly had to be pointed to the right place in the various pieces of evidence and only woke up sufficiently to complain the A4 sheets he had were worn and should be pristine for him, and spout some Latin that wasnt even relevent to the point being discussed. If the UK judge had been female and 40, the verdict would not have found for The Sun, that tabloid.
The truth is easily recalled, even years later. I have never known a habitual liar, & I have met quite a few, including a family member, that could remember the details of theiir lies for longer than a day.
Wow, this is crazy
So....they kept talking about all the evidence from the UK that wasn't allowed in, most of which was amber's testimony, which was taken at face value...but I don't think they really WANTED that evidence in, it was just whinging. Someone above talked like this was an amber herd case; it was not. It was a case against a UK newspaper in which amber testified, much better than in this case. She was just a witness, not a party to.
Elaine couldnt find her mic button during trial to save her life, but she manages to find her way to the interviews day after verdict! (And to question the integrity of Judge A and Jury at that!!) Badly done, Elaine!
T Leigh I know I'm 10 months late but I just came across this on my phone your comment is excellent you nailed it
My brother was in a relationship where his girlfriend punched him. He knew he could not hit her, she was tiny and he was an Army trained combatant. He also felt shame and embarrassment for not protecting himself. How could a woman hit a man??? It exist and it is real. Men are less likely to let everyone know that their partner hits them.
YOUR brother's wife knew he wouldn't hit back that's why she continued to do it, also she played on his service history knowing he would feel shame, sounds like she is nasty, manipulative and maybe a narcissist, I think that he should break that relationship if he already hasn't as a survivor of DV against me where the longer they get away with it the more they do it and the violence escalates. I guess re reading your post you used was so now guessing it's a past g/f hopefully your brother is happier now, we all deserve a life without violence mine was my now EX husband, best decision I ever made. 💯👍😊🦘🐨🦘
Glad he got out .. peace
He got out and married a woman not a girl!
I'm sorry he endured that and I'm glad to hear he has someone new that I hope cherishes him
A.H. hit Johnny but also verbally debased him and twisted the truth to set him up to destroy him.Its layer upon layer of abuse.
My highlight was “honestly this sounds like schizophrenia” 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I agree with Pete. The Depp team worked together and helped eachother out. They were awesome and I call them the 'dream team.' It was great that Ben Chew gave younger lawyers their time to shine and he wasn't badgering them or anything while they were doing their jobs. Just awesome! :)
Ben Chew is just a good leader.
Two time survivor here. You could see and hear in his voice he was truly a victim. AH with a smirk and laugh doesn't happen with survivor. Plus the amount of lies she was caught in. They cornered her with her lies. I've never laughed or smirked about my experiences. Mad, of course. Mad at myself mostly.
No one can say, " ELAINE!!!!!!!!", like Emily. She made me laugh through a tough trial to watch. "What's happening!!!????", is also one of my favorite comments of hers.
All the lawyers on the panel are great
I just realized it’s kind of like the Seinfeld “Elaaaaaine” 😂
Don't forget "get it together, Elaine" 😁
@@Eric_BroArmy13 hahaha “turn your mic on Elaaaine” … “we can’t hear you Elaaaaine” 😂
I laughed so much when she said that 🤣 every time.
Yep, watched Emily D Baker for the entire trial! Then went and picked up clips from The Body Language Guy, Spidey of The Behavioral Arts, Rob of Law & Lumber, Ian of Runkle of the Bailey, Larry of The DUI Guy, & a few misc around like PeterfromCourt. Hands down though, Emily is my favorite! 💜
I applaud all of these attorney's for providing their insight. It literally changed the way I viewed the network news interview with Elaine. If you had not watched the trial via CZcams, and only heard the network interview, your perception of the trial would be 100% skewed. Kudos to this panel and others on CZcams.
Ditto......fascinating from Sa....
That's right, thats why Elaine was apposed to it being televised, she lost and could not spin it to look like the narrative she tried to push, people seen it Elaine, they are not buying your bullshit and even if Amber won an appeal, noone would be convinced that the trial was a farce, they seen how bad an actor Amber is and what a horrible lawyer you are. Oh, and I thought Amber just wanted to be left alone by johnny, your alone Amber, all alone
Elaine was flapping around "like a fish out of water".
Rottenbaun obviously didn't want to be there. He was well aware she was lying which went beyond his own morals but he was stuck in this mess.
@@lynndunn3244 He lied too! He did improper impeachment on Johnny when he knew in one of the text messages Johnny was referring to a drug not a woman. He’s right up there with her! This was the only text Johnny denied and after people noticed it said something at the top like “sending” that was different than all the other text messages and shouldn’t have been admissible as evidence if caught.
People crave the TRUTH! It’s definitely nowhere to be found in the mass media relics for sure. They are mass hypnosis tools!! Owned by a couple people - I assume as sociopathic as AH. The world is a but a stage. It’s wonderful to see that down to earth, fun, knowledge, smart and kind people are gaining momentum and speaking truth! This trial set a precedent and it definitely has woken up many more people to the fact that the mass media is deceiving, lying and manipulating !!!
I was obsessed with the trial to the point that when it was over, I thought I'd have withdrawal symptoms. Thank goodness for this panel of expert lawyers who have picked this trial apart so my withdrawal is minimized....LOL!
Me too! Lol! Same here!
@#PrisonForJohnnyDepp so you got a pile of shit then
@#PrisonForJohnnyDepp and it's fake. I saw that video.
@#PrisonForJohnnyDepp fake fake fake just like all of her other evidence
I did, as well. In San Francisco when she went to him begging to be held & then begging to stay the night... All he could do was go too the couch and cry. My heart just breaks for him! I can't imagine how genuinely duped he must feel! He says it in that tape her doesn't know she's recording. Something to the effect of, "I can't see you any more. Well you are is not who I saw in my mind." He puts it far better & more clearly but it's pitiful!! He goes then to the couch after telling her "NO!!" repeatedly. How freaking sad! 💔
Bruce Rivers has been a great discovery during this trial. I really enjoy his commentary and analysis. I was watching the trial on my own, but found Emily D Baker a few weeks in. Watching real-time during the trial with her channel was both enjoyable and educational.
(1) Johnny told Amber he wants a divorce, so Amber beats him to it. (2) When this trial starts, Amber was imitating whatever Johnny was wearing. (3) Johnny sued Amber to get her to shut up and stop persecuting him, so during Amber’s first testimony she claimed that all she wanted was for Johnny to stop persecuting her and just leave her alone. (4) Amber was exhibiting narcissistic traits, so she put on experts to claim that Johnny was the narcissist.
Do y’all think there’s an echo in here, and that echo is Amber?
She is a narcissist. Couldn't take the rejection he was definitely getting rid. I think her child was "planned" to clean her image
>Amber beats him to it.
I see what you did there.
@@trungp.b3448 LOL - I didn’t see it until you pointed it out. But, yeah.
@Imad Alberakdar Thanks! To echo Emily D. Baker: I HAVE QUESTIONS!
YUP COLD AND CALCULATING I HOPE SHE JUST FADES AWAY INTO NON EXISTENCE
Discovering Emily, Bruce, Runkle and Rob was the best part of following this trial. I’m surprised no one brought up the part where ambers lawyer opened the door for Johnnys metadata expert and then trying to “forget” his question in order to try and close it 😂🤣
I agree on that 👌
Don't forget Spidey of Behavioural Arts. Epic.
@#JohnnyDeppIsRacist ……🙀 no I didn’t know you have content 🌚🤡🌝
@@neroliW oh yeah I didn’t realize that was is name
This case PROVES that when YOU dig a ditch for someone to fall into, YOU will be the one that falls into that ditch!
AH: "If I wanted to leak it, I could have leaked it so much better..."
CV: "You testified earlier in this trial that you don't know how to leak information."
AH: "I don't."
Imagine being married to this.
Great show, guys!! Also Camille was at the UK trial so she got to observe Amber's antics and had her completely sussed out. That's partly why she was able to move in for the kill so effectively in the US trial. Delicious to watch over and over again!!
Did ah testify in person in UK? The 2016 depo is for their divorce?? Thjx
I've never heard miss Vasquez was involved in the UK trial, I know Elaine was there representing AH
Elaine is exhausting 😂
Exposing a liar never gets old. I've rewatched her cross several times and it is glorious every single time!
@@shaylatorch She said (Camille) observed. Not represented.
Johnny Depp trial brought a lot of issues in our society...I learned about narcissist behavior,abused victims and most of all the legal knowledge from all the brilliant lawyers...❤️
The thing that clinched my support for Johnny was this started at the height of the me 2 movement but all his ex's were on his side including his last wife which he left for Heard. Where was the me 2 if he was an abuser?
A big humble hug to all of you from Sweden! You are great!🙏🏻
The lawyer you know Peter Tragos is the bomb!! Unbiased, informative, and so balanced.
And he has a vocabulary ! Dosent use f word constantly!
Yeah. I just happened on his channel and was hooked. He really is smart. He works with his dad, and his wife helps him. By the end of the trial I started feeling like I knew them. Bruce is the bomb. I looked at all the other channels, but Bruce really stood out. He is so knowledgeable-he is the man I would want representing me. I agree, Amber cooked her own goose.
He became my #1 "go to" legal channel throught the trial. Professional, sometimes fun and full of easy to understand information and education. No goofing around blabbing or swearing. Hey, I swear often, but never in serious situations and information.
@@juliawilly9151 - I’m with you there. Bruce was my favorite, with Trago & Emily tied for second.
@@cindyspangler3982 😂😂😂 right, then don’t watch ya know?
When Amber mentioned Kate Moss, the camera went to Elaine's face. She had a sad smile and shook her head.
Bruce's imitation of Dr. Smeagol (I know its Spiegel) was hysterical! Thank you. Best laugh of the day (laughing with you).
I heard an anonymous, supposedly, that they gave her 1 counter claim to compromise and get an unanimous verdict.
I felt bad for how vulnerable JD had to become. Her photos of him passed out drunk…etc. All she wanted to do from the beginning was extort money from him, then ruin him publicly.
She’s got some serious mental health issues. But like all NPD, BPD and HPD, there’s nothing wrong with her.
Read Doug Stanhope May 2016 article. None of Johnny's friends trusted ah, from the start. By the time of the TRO Depp was being blackmailed & he knew he could not stop it. He thought.
Your comment made me aware of the grave she has digged for herself. By 'exposing' him, she tried to show the world something very bad about Johnny that wasn't true (without evidence ofc), and it exposed things way less worse which he (at this point in time) simpely owed up to. It helped him, not coming off as preditor but prey. (For me, the audio has the same vibe)
However you turn this case, even this detail points to him not doing what she said he did. You don't have to twist things to tell the truth!
Amber turd will now be bankrupt like her personality. No movie offers now.
How come she was quick to take all those pictures but when she says he sexually violated , that broken glass was everywhere,that he cut his own fingertip off she had no pictures. Her friend took her away and kept her from him but when behind closed doors they never took a picture. Took a pictures if wine bottle on the floor but only thing she has a bruise that doesn't even show up until days and days later.. Amber and Elaine lost the case not the fact that the trial was televised.
The majority of those with cluster b personality disorders do lack self awareness and it is where 90% of all interpersonal issues come from. But it isn't actually part of the diagnosis
Good to see Bruce Rivers and Elaine Baker, they broke down the court proceedings in a way we could understand what could happen. They also predicted Depp would win...
Emily Baker.
Followed Bruce well before this trial, he's a cross-cultural BOSS. Delivering facts 👏🏾 💯 sharing how our judicial system works/ fails in the best way! Well edited too, shout out to his kid!
What makes me happy is these Lawyers embracing modern technology and actually using CZcams as a resource. The importance of this collaboration will be felt years to come. Kudos and keep up the good work lawyers,If y’all did this often a lot of us the public will start to develop a better relationship with lawyers and not put you guys in a box. Really really love this initiative 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Been watching Bruce Rivers and that’s what led me here. I enjoy watching his explanations on the Depp-Heard trial.
Male survivor here. In the words of Dr. Hughes, I've always approached every celebrity female accusation with a "healthy degree of skepticism." Not out of misogyny, but due to experience. DV is horrible on either side. But some people abuse the system. Period
I enjoyed the Depp-Heard explanations of these lawyers plus more on their CZcams channels. And this was nice to listen to this little refresher.
In the closing, Emily mentioned that Amber is not the face of domestic violence. But I kinda think she is. When I think of the face of an abuser, I think of her.
One of the most important things I learned through this trial is not to believe the mainstream media's publishings afterwards on what happened in the trial. I have been disillusioned with so many news agencies.
Camille Vasquez' face during Elaine bredehoff's closing is absolutely priceless.
Emily brings a fair an balanced way to bring legal matters to the masses. She is the future of legal social commentary. And a sea of purple hearts follow her everywhere for a reason. 💜💜💜
Potty mouth, for an educated person she has no vocabulary !
Peter Travis is sooo much better!
@@lareinedubois A person can express their opinion without putting another person down. If by chance you mean Emily, you might not have watched enough of her content. Everyone has a different style and the masses agree.
@LaReine A person can express their opinion without putting another person down. If by chance you mean Emily, you might not have watched enough of her content. Everyone has a different style and the masses agree.
I found her halfway through the hearing and even after watching the first 10 days on another channel, I went back to watch Emily's coverage. If you like Emily, check out Bruce Rivers (top, right) and his 20-40 min analysis a day or two after witness testimony. He's straightforward, and like Emily, he doesn't ask for money every 10 minutes!
At the very end, when the judge thanked the attorneys for their professional behavior, and Elaine chimes in, to compliment the staff, what I wouldn’t have given, for the judge to say, “Elaine, you must turn on your mic, or I can’t hear you”!lmao
There were 2 attorney's in the UK watch the US trial. The US had a trial jury, a direct, across and expert professional. The UK judge took AH word through her deposition. There were no cross examination and expert professionals.
All my favourite people are here. Awesome!!
I agree completely about relying on the UK case. They didn’t even seem to realize that Amber wasn’t actually being sued in that case. I was wondering if they had any of their own evidence when I first started watching. Her attorney keeps saying that Amber won that case. I don’t know why no one ever corrects her on that.
Amber had nothing to do with the UK case. It was Depp sueing a big UK newspaper (rag) for defamation because they called Depp a "wife beater".
Same here. I can't believe Elaine can be so dumb.
@@barbarakozlowski2642 She's not being dumb. It's to her, her client's advantage to say "AH won intne UK.).
In addition, Elaine repeatedly said that the UK trial had SO much more evidence. What she DOESN'T say is that the Depp team was limited in what UK evidence they could use, because the Heard team got to decide which UK evidence could be used in the US trial.
It would be the same as saying Isaac Baruch did win this case against Amber, or any other witness for Johnny has won this case, lol...
I watched all of them during the trial and they were all great
In a way, I think it’s kind of a good thing that AH won that one counter-claim against JD because that makes it harder for Amber’s team to claim jury bias. Clearly this was a huge win for Johnny and I believe in my heart that Amber probably shouldn’t have won anything but I also think that it might be good in the long run because Elaine is out there spewing lies and trying to discredit a jury that did grant a small win to Amber. This just makes Amber and her team look even worse and even more stupid in their pitiful arguments.
I agree. They threw Amber a bone. I do not think she deserved it at all. I agreed with what was said about her and her friends. But just as you said, she/they won something. It was a gimme.
Now, for Elaine to have gone on TV boo hooing that the mean social media and the mean judge and jurors stopped their “mountain” from being part of the court, etc., etc., more total distortions of the truth.
Elaine looks like the crackpot mother trying to rally the community to join with her because her “precious” daughter didn’t make the cheerleading team and no one deserved it more, in a word, Elaine looked petty!
Or deluded. Or fanatical. Or clueless. But no it was bad sportsmanship and it was a really, really bad look for Elaine and Amber. 🙄🥴🤢
They’re tiresome! They are very bad sports. It’s disappointing.
It's definitely going to make the appeal harder to get. Even with their terrible evidence they won one of their counter claims. What more do they want.
@@theredhotchilipepperssexof4269 hahahaa nice try troll
@@theredhotchilipepperssexof4269repost it then
@@theredhotchilipepperssexof4269 his did I miss that... it was played in court you claim...I could swear I've watched the whole trial....
Every time I see Bruce I hear his beat
🎶 Bruce Rivers he's the Criminal Lawyer 🎶
Excited to see Emily, Bruce, and Peter (LYK) on a panel together!
Amber is all about herself and no one else. She couldn't care less about the verdict being a set back for other DV victims.
Noone can break the ice like Emily. 💜💜💜
Every time the Heard team and their witnesses talked it felt like the children were in the room and when the Depp team and witnesses came on the grownups came to make sense of everything.
Takeaway: Live streaming humanised the trial. Some behaviour considered appropriate/inappropriate in the courtroom have shifted when viewed by the public. Public reaction actually has some legitimacy because the public could have been jurors too.
Though on paper, Amber had the advantage and her story was haunting, her BS paired with the evidence cost her the case. And there’s something human about being able to parse through that. While the verdict was surprising, the public understands the decision because of live streaming.
I have been a juror before in a criminal case and it was very fascinating to me and I really enjoyed the experience. After watching all the reactions and insights of these guys, and watching the trial proceedings, I have such an appreciation for our legal system!!!
I'm watching this right now on my TV and just want to say THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart to all of you and all the TubeLawyers, Law&CrimeNetwork and many other social/independent media who helped me to understand the legal aspects of this trial. I came late to this trial, specifically last two weeks or so, after seeing it mentioned on twitter. Initially, I dismissed it thinking that were just 2 Hollywood celebs having tantrums in public. At this point never heard of AH and of course, I knew JD from his many films which I watched throughout my life, particularly, TPOTC, which were a lot of fun, but didn't know him enough as a man to get me interested in the trial. In general, celeb stuff just annoy me and stopped watching/reading corporate media long time ago (3 -4 years).
One day, went on YT and saw some stuff related to the trial, I clicked and it was AH being cross exanimated by Camille. It took me a few minutes to understand what it was going on, I was so shocked and triggered... I kept thinking this can't be true, this must be one of the silly things, hoaxes, whatever, that populate YT. Slowly, I came to the realisation that it was true and it was live. I kept watching and more I watched more disturbed and unsettled I became. The reason was I'm a survivor of domestic violence and sexual abuse as a child. I'm a wreck to this day. It destroyed me as a person I was never able to hold a steady job ever, I was never able to have 'normal' relationships whole my life, suffered from depression and anxiety all my life, PTSD diagnosed, I could go on and on... So watching/hearing this woman and hearing the JD tapes I felt devastated beyond words, because I could tell she was lying, because I know what looks like to live in fear, to feel terrified to say the wrong word, even being terrified of breathing, to do the wrong thing... I can't go on, but for a good part of my life, I just wanted to be invisible... No, she wasn't abused in any way, form or shape, she was the abuser. I saw myself in Johnny Depp immediately. I saw the friends I wasn't allowed to have, I saw the yelling thrown at me again and again, you're a loser, you're a nobody, nobody likes you, you're nothing and you always be nothing... I've seen 1000s of women on twitter and here saying exactly the same thing, that they identified with Johnny as I did. In a way, I got some solace from that, that I'm not alone. From the moment I saw that first video of the trial (Amber Heard cross examination) that I have been watching the max I can with the help of LawTubers and the rest (somehow it feels by watching with you, I'm not alone and the pain is not so unbearable), and that such confirmed again and again my first impression, AH doesn't have a clue what DV or SA looks like! Again, thank you so much for your hard work. I couldn't do this without you!
You are still not alone ❤
As I watched Amber's interaction with her lawyers, she was constantly passing them notes , making comments. She seemed to be directing them, wanting to be in control. That said a lot about her.
She also lied a lot. Will she be heald accountable for lying under oath?
By the way, Camille Vasguez was immediately made a partner at the close of trial!
When this came up in suggestions that I might like this video, I saw it was from the Beverly Hills Bar Association and I was not too excited, then I saw Emily D. Baker and realized I had to see what she had to say. I have to admit I REALLY enjoyed listening to all of the panel, each brought a new perspective for me, and I'm still giggling over Bruce's acting abilities, he nailed it! Great video, great discussion. Thanks
Yep I saw Emily and Bruce and clicked. The host isn't good at all. Sorry
@@sherrigrant573 agreed
I started watching the day AH took the stand. She and her witnesses convinced me that she was lying, and I came out of their testmonies alone feeling more sympathy for JD than I ever imagined I would.
The public has been exposed to so much because of this trial. Courtroom procedure, great attorneys, not so great attorneys, BPD and histrionic personality disorders, etc. When I went to court years ago to obtaina divorce and custody of my young children, I felt so protected. My abusive husband had to keep his mouth shut unless it was his turn. I was able to speak THE truth without being shouted down. Wonderful, freeing experience.
AH and Elaine calling Walter Hamada a liar at least 4 times, in public no less, was a bullet train straight to being blacklisted from WB, other studios, as well as, print work for other companies. That was dumbest thing she could have done IF she wants to continue acting.
Same thing I thought Amber was chewing off the hand that she wanted to feed her. And Elaine just because AH won in the UK doesn't mean anything. This trial was a whole new ball game with Johnny Depp having proof she was the aggressor and that she had defamed him.
Exactly, honestly I don’t know how she can work as an actor anymore after this.
Hopefully she won't act bc she sucks
She is not a dog lover but she insisted on taking puppies away from Johnny's house.She ignored the puppies and left them at her father's house.Her sister said that she didn't hear anything about the puppies
since then.Has Amber killed Johnny's puppies ?
Rumor has it that her dad took them to the Austin humaine society. Don't know if that's true but that's what's said.
Poor puppies 😢. I hope they are in a new, safe home!
Thanks to all of you, so great to have the opportunity to hear your opinion, and knowledge into the legal system.
This case is hysterical, AH is her own worst enemy & proving that she was the abuser & not the abused in a toxic relationship!
What a wonderful group of intelligent people. Enjoyed hearing them talk .
Re: Amber and Johnny referring to each other as Slim and Steve. If this hasn’t been cleared up yet, those were the nicknames of the characters played by Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart in their first film, To Have and Have Not. It was Bacall’s first film, she was 18; Bogie was an established movie star in his mid-40s. And it was during the filming of that film that Bogie and Bacall fell in love irl.
Thank you. I didn't know that.
Lauren Bacall was actually talented though. Back then acting was actually a serious job and not just "that thing that people do to get beer money" that we seem to see with big movie stars these days and flakes like amber. I think the stars of the 80s and 90s may be some of the last perceived to be hard working stars we'll see in a while.
Thank you. I did wonder the endearment they have with each other.
Johnny explains this in his testimony.
@@karencox8240 I missed that bit.
As an outsider I didn't view her reading her opening or closing statements in a negative way. She seemed more prepared when reading her statements vs Amber's team going on the fly. I liked that she read from her notes, it made her look prepared as someone who doesn't have the legal lense bias.
Lessons learned from the case: do not underestimate the power of social media; be very conscious of the clock; do not enter a court case unprepared expecting to win; appearance of the lawyer also affects jury impression
Already big fan of Emily & Bruce. Thank you for helping us to understand all that's going on.
Awesome panel, a great variety of viewpoints. 💜
This came on by accident,it started while I was doing dishes. I’m so glad I watched it. I watched Emily and Legal Bytes during the trial. I also saw stuff from Tragos Law and The other lawyers here through the trial. This was awesome! I really hope Law Tube continues to do these interesting cases,preferably together.
Yea, I don’t see Camille leaving her team anytime soon! They worked SO well together! She might up her price and be made partner, but that’s about it.
You need more of this because it's a lot of education and knowledge in this panel.
I couldn't help but smile through out the introduction part! I am more than pleased to see Emily's face on this panel! She definitely was the #1 lawyer I've been following during this case💜 Thank you all!
He and his team had it locked down. Ben & Camille have become celebrities in their own right but that’s not to diminish the co-council. They impeccably matched attorneys to witnesses/witness types and even the timing of their appearances. It was so well orchestrated and their belief in Johnny/what they were fighting for was SO tangible.
Rottenborn did a great job despite having very little to work with but he came off as rude and obnoxious on the surface level, if only because of the seemingly impossible task of forming any sort of camaraderie with his client. Ben Chew was equally aggressive or pointed toward the defense and their witnesses at times, but it felt like he was going to bat for his friend rather than just clocking in and doing his job. I could see Rottenborn being able to form that necessary bond with other clients, but Amber was completely incapable of even feigning that for her own sake.
Happy to see Bruce join up w/ some of the other online lawyers. Thank you all for the informative chat.
What a world we live in that us normal, everyday hoomans are interested in the rule of law!
B4 the trial, most "assumed" Johnny was guilty ... Evidence changed our minds (1) the police cam video (2) tapes of Amber's full deposition where we saw another Amber (3) tapes from Australia, where Depp, after losing part of his finger showed how abusive he really is by "violently" saying, "You make me ashamed ~ of myself." (4) Jennifer Howell & Vince Jolivette Declarations (5) The TMZ "oops" by Amber (6) The TMZ "insider" (7) the trial
Yay Emily!!! I found a lot of other law channels through Emily d baker! There are many many talented lawyers who are educating so many who aren’t well versed on the way law truly works.
These attorneys are great at making legal matters easier to understand. And I’m an Emily fan, she’s a rockstar attorney!
I loved watching a civil trial for a change, having been a true crime junkie for so long. I gained a lot of knowledge
Elaine is clearly out-lawyered. Easy to see the Johnny Depp's attorneys as a great solid team. Ben Chew allowed the younger a loose reign and they all exceeded expectations. Attorney's rose to the bar. I watched the last 3 weeks and hard to find anyone that supported Amber. All social media is going to challenge the media, they should fear accountability in the future. BRUCE, I liked when you said in court you don't ask question that you don't know the answers.
LEGIT panel discussion. Congrats! I enjoyed Emily and Peter throughout the trial. I’ll need to check out Limor and Bruce.
Me too🙂👍
I know Bruce is excellent and quite funny…
I just listened to Bruce, he is so much fun.
Bruce’s explanation of what’s going on in a (this) trial is very informative and in easy words, at least for me who is not familiar with american jurisdiction.
And… he is very funny!
Bruce by far is the best, most efficient and funny out of any of the lawyers I’ve watched during the trial.
The main stream media coverage has confirmed my belief that I need to not look ever at it and find other sources of information .
What was Amber thinking taking this to court to clean up her reputation? JD was right telling her it was going to make it worse for her. She picked awful lawyers
History in the making. Changing how news are delivered 🙌 Thank you!
I agree about Camille's first part of closing arguments. I didn't like that she read the points with a rather flat delivery, and thought she had blown it. However, her second part of the closing was all the more effective by contrast. It was so heartfelt and delivered with passion.
I never thought I’d be excited watching lawyers discuss cases, JD was my interest, but because of following Peter, then Emily, you 2 are special, Thank U for being ethical, honest, humble, kind, caring, down to earth w fun, personalities n exceptional, analysis w chats, Thank U🙏
I follow Peter Tragos and my other favorite is Bruce Rivers.
@@juliawilly9151 yes, I like both of them too.
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You guys are a gem!! I was all over the internet until I found you guys, thank you Emily!! It helped me understand the court system a lot better! Sweet justice ⚖️! ❤️
Ben Chew was an effective leader!
What a great conversation!! Never thought that I'd be interested with legal contents 😂
Oh my gosh- a bunch more lawyers I need to follow! Many thanks for this panel. Fascinating insights.
A lawyer was so stupid and these interviews she blamed everybody and kept referring to the UK trial which had nothing to do with Amber
Yeah it was also pretty funny that she accused everyone for trying to get their 15min of fame, then immediately starts appearing on shows lying, er, talking about the trial.
The projection is real.
Amber kept changing her story, but what was worse was how quickly her mood changed. She sobbed without tears and then she turned cold to Camille.
I quit feeling for Elaine when she rewrote testimony and made stuff up in her closing. I’m sure the jurors felt the same way. I feel the same way about her statements on her press run the morning after the verdict.
This is a dream Panel!!
I could listen to them all day. I feel like they’re my friends…
My really smart fascinating legal friends ✨🌷
I’m just disgusted with the verdict….I almost cried when you hear this grown man saying to his abusive wife, “ you just came around the bed and clogged me, just punching on me” then he took this long pause while Heard was saying sorry and he goes…..”whyyy” in this voice of just confusion….on top of the other audios the world heard…..she shouldn’t of got nothing and he should of been awarded every bit of that $50million plus some, bcuz if He didn’t have those audios Heard would of gotten away with a crime and an innocent victim life would of been ruined for no reason….I don’t really care about this celebrity world but my heart do go out to people who are being abused.
What's stunning is that ah recorded most of those audios.
@Piccolo Ribellem trying to remember why; having already found Amber to be a liar they could disregard her testimony on the penthouse police response, but the jury may have felt that her friends were defamed because the evidence did not support Waldman’s assertion that Amber & friends had messed up the penthouse then called the cops again. But it was also required that they find that Waldman acted with legal malice; at the time Waldman made the statements his assertion was reasonable. A lot of the trial viewers weren’t able to put all the evidence regarding this incident together in a way that would lead them to conclude the scene was not staged until LawTube walked us through it.
@Piccolo Ribelle yea Waldmen said her op-Ed was a hoax right? If so…then it was a hoax or did I miss something.
Camille's mentioned that Amber's acting coach said Amber had difficulty crying when acting. Camille said: you have seen it. Miss Heard sobbing without tears. That was great. I noticed it when the coach said it and I'm glad Camille used it. She was brilliant in every way. But also, the evidence for Amber just wasn't there.
Re: Camille V. Reading closing… if you close your eyes and listen to it it sounds like one of the Peanuts monologues. Her voice, tone, pace, organization, all of it. If the Peanuts had a legal episode, this would be on it. It was amazing.
Elaine over here is getting her 15 min fame and Rottenborn is like I’m out I don’t want to talk about this anymore.
Can we talk about (what I refer to as) the *light of grace and favor* that beamed down on Ms Vasquez when she was kicking off her cross with Ms Heard? 😇
I have to give these lawyers so much credit for covering this trial, to explain and give their expert opinions. THANK YOU, ALL!!! However, Emily Baker was my “go to channel” most of the time❤️
As a member of the masses I thank you!