What Is Wheel Offset?

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  • čas přidán 31. 01. 2018
  • On this episode of Wheel School, we explain what wheel offset is and why it's such an important factor when buying your next set of wheels. We cover how to measure and explain the difference between positive and negative offset to get you the perfect stance on your vehicle.
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Komentáře • 404

  • @tekufu
    @tekufu Před 6 lety +697

    This didn't teach me shit about any of the Migos

  • @NotTrey999
    @NotTrey999 Před 6 lety +137

    OFFSET... woo woo woo woo.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 6 lety +13

      MIGOS

    • @DonnieKatona
      @DonnieKatona Před 6 lety +4

      Trevor Hart Lmfao your dumb as hell my guy but you forgot a woo he said it 5x's not 4, still funny though

  • @_Erogaki
    @_Erogaki Před 6 lety +173

    This shit was my most googled thing before buying wheels and still confused lol.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 6 lety +5

      Do you have any specific questions?

    • @_Erogaki
      @_Erogaki Před 6 lety +4

      Fitment Industries I'm good for now, I already got the gist of what this means. Haha

    • @LostParadise_
      @LostParadise_ Před 3 lety +10

      @@FitmentIndustries 3 years too late, but I think showing a visual difference between say, 35mm offset wheels and 40mm offset wheels

    • @rogerb9904
      @rogerb9904 Před 3 lety

      @@LostParadise_ lol

  • @jojuanwinfrey3702
    @jojuanwinfrey3702 Před 6 lety +84

    I still don’t get it lol

  • @pimpyoda1579
    @pimpyoda1579 Před 4 lety +79

    Instructions not clear..
    I accidentally glue my wheels on the roof

  • @Timbuck4
    @Timbuck4 Před 4 lety +33

    Man what the hell I ain’t learn nothing 😂

  • @courtneylewis1867
    @courtneylewis1867 Před 4 lety +16

    You guys are amazingly helpful for new car enthusiasts.

  • @lancemcpherson6906
    @lancemcpherson6906 Před 6 lety +116

    I am very confused tbh

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 6 lety +5

      Do you have any specific questions?

    • @Horchata44
      @Horchata44 Před 6 lety +4

      Fitment Industries how do I get a fat lip?

    • @ethanpintobean
      @ethanpintobean Před 5 lety +1

      Fitment Industries so the lower the off set the closer I am to the fender ?

    • @stephengordon1005
      @stephengordon1005 Před 5 lety +1

      Fitment Industries I have a question. I have 3 piece HRE wheels. My offset is zero. If I wanted to go widebody and achieve a more deeper dish/concaved & aggressive appearance, could my current wheels be sent back to the manufacturer to be adjusted to meet the specs/appearance that I'm looking for? Your support on this would be greatly appreciated.

  • @talibnunnally1531
    @talibnunnally1531 Před 6 lety +55

    Do it look like those wheels was left off bad and bougie?

  • @andyd5360
    @andyd5360 Před 6 lety +21

    I love this channel, it's just a matter of time before you guys start getting millions of views, keep the good content going!

  • @vizualmrs
    @vizualmrs Před 6 lety +617

    Dude scrap this video and do it again but with an actual wheel/rim. Its easier to understand with an example. The drawing is not helping. Trust me.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 6 lety +50

      We will make a more in-depth video on how to measure :D

    • @thomashaugland6953
      @thomashaugland6953 Před 6 lety +16

      i had to watch the video 3 times over to understand exacly what the drawin was of xD at fisrt i thought it was the rear wheelbase. holding a wheel up with the drawing would help a lot.

    • @jasonhooey5677
      @jasonhooey5677 Před 6 lety +3

      Great video! I too watched it 5 times, only because I was unfamiliar with some of the terms used. Now I know I want rims with less positive offset. thanks!

    • @EveryDayLifeChannel9777
      @EveryDayLifeChannel9777 Před 6 lety +19

      I watched once and understood!

    • @shawnthornton5020
      @shawnthornton5020 Před 6 lety +6

      Off set for beginners my ass

  • @eljefe-tracogang3808
    @eljefe-tracogang3808 Před 4 měsíci

    Don't see why some folks are complaining about the explanation..Its quite straight foward and easy to understand..Good job

  • @WinginitIguess
    @WinginitIguess Před 5 lety +5

    Good video, the wheel at the end helped. Offset ,basically, will determine how much dish(we used to call them deep dish rims?)your rim has or how much clearance between brake caliper and rotors.. roughly.. lol

  • @Cramos69Matt
    @Cramos69Matt Před 5 lety +2

    You honestly have the best and most informative videos

  • @jonas8943
    @jonas8943 Před 6 lety +2

    dude, where are all of your subscribers? just discovered, brilliant quality :)

  • @harpreetmalhi1723
    @harpreetmalhi1723 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you so much for this video. Helped me understand a lot about offset. I recently bought 2018 VW GTI autobann with 18*7.5 rims on 225/40R/18 summer tires with 49mm offset. I have a set of old 2014 Jetta winters tires sitting around which are 17*7 on 225/45R/17 with offset of 54mm... not sure if these will fit without rubbing any suspension/brakes etc? Any help will be appreciated :)

  • @Leftyone78
    @Leftyone78 Před 3 lety +25

    Damn I’m still just as confused as I was before this video! But thanks for trying!

    • @Visionbyal
      @Visionbyal Před 3 lety +1

      check out konigs wheel offset video

  • @MikhailJathan
    @MikhailJathan Před 6 lety +3

    I just started learning about wheels and this was very informative!

  • @gdl357g
    @gdl357g Před rokem

    FANTASTIC job Alex. Thx 😊

  • @brycel3461
    @brycel3461 Před 5 lety +1

    Learn something new every day...😮

  • @shaneparrow9545
    @shaneparrow9545 Před rokem

    This is perfect thanks dawg

  • @dx4095
    @dx4095 Před 6 lety

    thank you for the simple explanation... i was just learning about wheels that will suit me & my car and stumbled on your channel , thanks again dude that was really helpful ✌

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 6 lety

      Your welcome! Check out our online gallery, it has over 5000 vehicles with fulls spesc :D
      www.fitmentindustries.com/gallery

  • @storchyboi4454
    @storchyboi4454 Před 5 lety +1

    Could you send down to reduce offset for rims that you have already bought if it is too late to send them back

  • @jaylakhani5568
    @jaylakhani5568 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. I don’t know how others struggled to understanding the drawing, I did perfectly and even watched it on 1.5x speed and had no problem. Thanks!

  • @berserk7511
    @berserk7511 Před 6 lety +1

    would you guys happen to know what the best offset for a 2018 wrx is? looking for a nice flush fit with the fenders. thank you

  • @farzulali7021
    @farzulali7021 Před 5 lety +1

    what offset should I use for the 10th gen civic sedan (1.5T) 19" wheels using coil overs without rubbing the fenders?

  • @dpz1985dp
    @dpz1985dp Před 5 lety +2

    is there a diff. between concave wheels offset vs wheels that have a deep lip offset?

  • @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER
    @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER Před 6 lety +1

    Glad i found this channel

  • @danielgallegos971
    @danielgallegos971 Před 5 lety +3

    I want to about the handling aspects n what's best for what

  • @budlit1854
    @budlit1854 Před 6 lety

    Cormill beats are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @JayTc2
    @JayTc2 Před 3 lety +1

    opinions needed, i want to go 19x8.5 on my scion tc(Stock suspension and brakes) what offset would be better 35 or 40/42

  • @stevemcrichards8768
    @stevemcrichards8768 Před rokem

    Offset is crucial for suspension geometry setup for proper tire grip with regards to bump steer and Ackerman angle.

  • @MalikMusicInc
    @MalikMusicInc Před 4 lety

    So helpful!!

  • @jumbie4972
    @jumbie4972 Před 6 lety +12

    Can you do the truth about wci or advant garde rims?

  • @scottmahoney3147
    @scottmahoney3147 Před 3 lety

    What I'd like to learn more about is, back spacing & bore measurements. Are they the same thing?

  • @aquaisuseful682
    @aquaisuseful682 Před 4 lety

    That Gold and pink gt86 is heavenly🥰

  • @LN7747
    @LN7747 Před 4 lety +1

    My stock wheels are ET39.
    I'm looking at different alloys which match the rim size and PCD, but have an offset of ET45.
    Would this be ok and safe to fit?

  • @Mike-dr5iq
    @Mike-dr5iq Před 6 lety +4

    that 370z thumbnail tho 😍😍

  • @teez390
    @teez390 Před 3 lety

    Looking to change up my rims to 19x9.5 +22 all around or should it be a +30-+35 -2015 lexus is fsport awd... will +22 work?sitting on BC coilovers & spc cambers. Had poke look but i want a almost flush with a slight tuck if that makes since😬😁

  • @TheBlessedone37
    @TheBlessedone37 Před 6 lety +2

    Holy shizznilty!! Most straight forward and best explanation on this platform. Tyvm

  • @isaelramos571
    @isaelramos571 Před 4 lety

    What’s the most negative offset can I run on a 2019 accord sport ?

  • @Chaoticjacket
    @Chaoticjacket Před 3 lety +1

    have a lexust ct200h, stock rims are a +40 offset, can I use a +30 offset

  • @144steveg
    @144steveg Před 4 lety

    Suggestions for a 2020 Model 3 Performance?

  • @Ggllg2323
    @Ggllg2323 Před 4 lety +1

    Whats The Perfect Offset For A Ej1

  • @patrickkossewski6712
    @patrickkossewski6712 Před 4 lety

    What is best fitment for the 350z if I want some lip showing if I get the black 18 xt 206r?

  • @kyled3273
    @kyled3273 Před 3 lety

    So I have a 19x8.5 rim and it’s Et35. If I add a 15 mm spacer to the front will I clear the fender

  • @slonon6410
    @slonon6410 Před 5 lety +1

    does anyone have a video on the pros/ cons, handling and wear characteristics on bearings/suspension parts when changing +/- from a oem offset?

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety +1

      We have not but that it is a great suggestion for a future video!

  • @andrewmoss7044
    @andrewmoss7044 Před 4 lety

    Hey what vossen rims and offset would be good for an 05 4dr accord..

  • @SagesMedia
    @SagesMedia Před 5 lety +1

    If I’m looking for a wider look without using wheel spacers should I shoot for positive or negative offset?

  • @GoldenSim27
    @GoldenSim27 Před 5 lety

    so width of the rim is calculated by ''inside the lips'' right ? positive offset the mounting is towards the exterior relative to center line and negative offset is more towards the car? thanks !

  • @Nguyen2fold
    @Nguyen2fold Před 6 lety +1

    If I want a more concave look. Do I go with wider rim or lower off set to push midline back. I know more factors come into play but just generally speaking.

  • @boomboomcanada
    @boomboomcanada Před 4 lety

    Hi, I have a factory steel wheel size of 16x6.5 with offset 45mm. I would like to replace the steel with with alloy wheel size of 16x6.5 with offset 40mm. When I installed alloy rims to the car, I hear noise but not with original wheels from factory. In addition, the center cap is not stayed due to the center hub is long to hit the back of the cap and it just pops out.
    Is this caused by offset difference? If so, applying 5 mm adaptor will solve this issue?

  • @airon6864
    @airon6864 Před 3 lety

    I need help with find a wheel that’s wider than my 18X8 wheel. I have a 235/40/18 tire and want just a tiny bit of poke but a double step deep dish wheel. Looking at 18x9.5 WOTH either a +20 offset or the +30 so witch one would give me a bigger double step deep dish wheel?

  • @alejandroallproducts1269

    I want to order the work cr2p with great step lip and big concavity as possible of course without any changes to my suspension or body, the brake kit can be replaced with one that will fit properly

  • @kevinforman251
    @kevinforman251 Před 4 lety

    I have a 2017 Passat RLine with 19’s stock what’s a good offset to give me good Fitment for my ride?

  • @stevenmoran3476
    @stevenmoran3476 Před 5 lety +3

    I need to know what wheels are on that Nissan in the picture of the vid they look sick

    • @baybiboy1
      @baybiboy1 Před 4 lety

      Steven, I might be too late but the wheels are avant garde. I love that car as well. Here is the link.
      avantgardewheels.com/f520-brushed-antique-copper-nissan-370z-siderear/

  • @Kaijiro____93
    @Kaijiro____93 Před 6 lety

    Still hard to find the perfect fit with no poke on a stock height 2018 STI, every fitment for 18x9.5+38 all have poke which is not flush to guard. Is the offset causing the tyre/wheel to poke out rather than flush?

  • @jondoe1410
    @jondoe1410 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey I drive a 2001 lexus ls430. The calipers are pretty big. I was thinking about getting sum work emitz rims, 20s. Wut will be a good offset? I don't really want a deep dish look, nor do I want a flush look...? Help!!!

  • @Diemich
    @Diemich Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks!

  • @jin5632
    @jin5632 Před 4 lety

    Hello, if my car recommendation is 7.5Jx18 ET32, can I go with ET35 instead ? It's for a Toyota corolla 2011.

  • @primofx2sport
    @primofx2sport Před 2 lety

    When it came to trying to figure out which offset to go with it became a headache! That is until I called Fitment Industries and they got me setup right!

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 2 lety +1

      💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 how’s it looking now?! What ya go with? -Edgar

    • @primofx2sport
      @primofx2sport Před 2 lety

      @@FitmentIndustries waiting for the wheels to arrive but going with a stance look. The team at fitment helped me spec it out.

  • @javaughnreid9819
    @javaughnreid9819 Před 2 lety

    What’s the best wheel for the Mitsubishi Mirage

  • @haydenlakey2810
    @haydenlakey2810 Před 2 lety

    3 years late to this and Australian but is there a way to run say zero offset rims on a car with drum brakes and plus 40 offset stock?

  • @laziboi519
    @laziboi519 Před 4 lety +51

    Anybody else notice the guy in the back at the beginning lol

  • @janicedizon1129
    @janicedizon1129 Před 4 lety

    Hi. Can i use a 2013 kia soul rim/wheel 205/55/16 on my 2007 honda civic? Thanks

  • @Gunzandroses212
    @Gunzandroses212 Před 4 lety

    What is lowest and highest I could go on offset with a 2015 Infiniti QX60?

  • @andreblanding4817
    @andreblanding4817 Před 4 lety

    ? For you what would be the best offset for my 2013 G37xs sedan 19x9.5 ⬛ flush with fenders Thanks you for any help

  • @allentumbokon8547
    @allentumbokon8547 Před 3 lety

    Is +44 offset of 18 x 8.5 wheels will touch the coilovers of a honda civic 8th gen? Thanks.

  • @jfilliaplays
    @jfilliaplays Před 3 lety

    i just ordered 15x7 +15 off set on my del sol. on 195/45/R15 does anyone know if this should be ok?

  • @Trampninjasclips
    @Trampninjasclips Před 3 lety

    Maybe this video is too outdated to ask a question on, but if I want some deep dished wheels, (not negative offset, maybe 0-35mm offset) how would I make that fit clean with stock fenders? If even possible.

  • @alejandroallproducts1269

    Alex , if my car have 18x8j et 45 , and i mount 18x10.5j , should i get an offset that will be 45mm-(10.5j-8j)
    In result 45mm- 1.25"=~14mm offset
    Thank you very much indeed

  • @ceelee8602
    @ceelee8602 Před 5 lety

    7.5Jx17 ET30 and 7Jx17 ET50 rims are interchangeable?(2012 honday odyssey)

  • @brianparker181
    @brianparker181 Před 5 lety

    Yeah can u explain offset and what it is for the laiman

  • @vladkuz1298
    @vladkuz1298 Před 4 lety

    What to do if you don't know what ur stock offset and you have like 17x7 rims and want a 20x9.5 ? Like it's a big difference and I really need to know what offset is supposed to be. I drive Dodge charger 2006 sxt

  • @ericjamescastillo7804
    @ericjamescastillo7804 Před 5 lety +1

    So.. I was thinking about buying ESR SR08 18” 5x100 idk what offset. Not dropped, just stock height on a BRZ. What type of offset should I get? Planning on getting BC coilovers after that

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety

      Whats up man shoot us an email at wheels@fitmentindustries.com and we can help you with that!

  • @anthonycaballero4457
    @anthonycaballero4457 Před 6 lety +1

    Fitment dudes! Please please please do a video on the new 3 pc wheels esr dropped! Pleasaase! Everyone is going crazy over them! They're 3k a set and we are all wondering if the hefty price is really worth it, especially when you can just go with name brand wheels like rays, work, bbs, etc

  • @ystrobe9294
    @ystrobe9294 Před 3 lety +1

    How do you know what offset you need for your car

  • @ricardoarevalo7635
    @ricardoarevalo7635 Před 2 lety

    What would work for Volk TE37SL with stock components on a 2020 STI?

  • @cwatson42785
    @cwatson42785 Před 4 lety

    So would +32 or +45 be more concave? I'm looking to get that deep dish look and im still kinda confused. Which one of those 2 would give me a deeper dished look? I subbed! Thanks for any advice!! Edit after watching again I'm saying +32 would be the deeper concave? I just don't want to order the wrong wheel lol

    • @bones615
      @bones615 Před 2 lety +2

      Yo bro Ik you prolly picked a wheel by now but yeah the more negative/less the number is the further in it is and with a one piece with spokes like he showed it would give it a concave look!

  • @oneradchicken7874
    @oneradchicken7874 Před 3 lety

    So positive offset is good for bigger breaks?

  • @serfin8521able
    @serfin8521able Před 6 lety +15

    That was confusing. I can't tell if the diagram is showing and skyview of a single wheel thingy or the distance between both.

  • @dm-qe9xy
    @dm-qe9xy Před 3 lety

    Do I need wheel spacers for a rocket bunny 350 how do I know how wide a rim is

  • @fredbradick8404
    @fredbradick8404 Před 5 lety +1

    i am looking at getting a set of cosmis wheels 006 18x9.5 or 8.5 how aggressive would that wheel be with a 10mm offset for a 2019 civic sport hatchback any help would be great

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety

      9.5 would be pretty aggressive! I personally just went with 8.5 and I have some pretty decent poke! Shoot us an email at shop@fitmentindustries.com and we can help you find something!

  • @realblackbetty2204
    @realblackbetty2204 Před 4 lety

    My factory offset is 45mm. The wheel I want is 50mm. Is that ok? Will it stick out too much? Thanks

  • @tonyn6969
    @tonyn6969 Před rokem

    I have a 2018 Accord lowered on Eibach Pro Springs which is a .8 drop. Can you give me advice if I was to do 19x9.5 +22 offset would I be fine without any modifications like fender rolling or cambering the rims? I am really interested in the Aodhan DS02 but don't want to get it if I am going to need to do any modifications just to make it fit.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před rokem

      You will definitely have to roll fenders. May have to camber a bit as well. It definitely will depend on what size tires you run as well

  • @iaimfortheeyes
    @iaimfortheeyes Před 4 lety

    Does more offset equate to more concavity?

  • @leonardoreyes8517
    @leonardoreyes8517 Před 5 lety +1

    I've seen the gallery.....I want personal recommendations for at 2013 GTI... come with it, what you got!

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety

      IMO Rotiform RSE's however we have so many options on our site here! --> bit.ly/2XebhmU

  • @juliusjames5563
    @juliusjames5563 Před 2 lety

    Hi guys I'm in need of some assistance,, the wheels I almost can afford only come in 17x8 25 5.120 for a E36 and I can't find any of those fitments on the gallery.. I really want them to have some concave at least haha.. Will they fit?

  • @Zstunner253
    @Zstunner253 Před 3 lety

    My car on the thumbnail 🔥❤

  • @logansmith8254
    @logansmith8254 Před 3 lety

    Y’all got any recommendations for a 2010 genesis coupe, I’ve seen the gallery and want a personal recommendation I wanna do a wide body

    • @walruz011
      @walruz011 Před 3 lety

      ESR or Aodhan DS line wheels look great on gennys

  • @Tetsu9701
    @Tetsu9701 Před rokem

    I am looking to get wheels & tires for my 5th gen prelude. I want a slight negative offset to give it a little bit of an aggressive look. I already lowered my car 1" from stock height getting rid of most wheel hap but still have about an inch of wiggle room. I plan on doing this next summer & am trying to get the best info possible.

  • @dpz1985dp
    @dpz1985dp Před 5 lety +1

    Can you please help. 2012 acura tsx on coilovers. I want a set of wheels but dont know the right offset for front and rear wheels. I want a flush look

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety

      Hello, Shoot us an email at wheels@fitmentindustries.com and we can help you!

  • @domepiecemcgrill3896
    @domepiecemcgrill3896 Před 3 lety

    I really want to buy from you guys and I am 98% sure. The vids are what sold me. However bro. This is just confusing. I'm not an idiot. I just feel like I gained nothing if I were to try and pass the info on to another.
    Gonna search for a new version.
    I am curious what offset options I wisely have for a 2015 Hyundai Genesis 3.8L rwd.

  • @joshburger5883
    @joshburger5883 Před 4 lety

    I own a BRZ what is recommended to do before I try and run a 0 or negative offset? Or Especially for a concave look?

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 4 lety

      A wide body/flares or that won’t ever fit without a lot of camber

  • @12InchesUnBuffed
    @12InchesUnBuffed Před 4 lety +1

    What do I need to do to make sure I have the right offset and not have to worry about damaging my brake calipers?

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 4 lety

      Shoot us an email and we can help you on this one! wheels@fitmentindustries.com

  • @janjan990
    @janjan990 Před 2 lety

    Hi, one question, do wheel offset affect the car's acceleration? Thanks

    • @therealjulez7886
      @therealjulez7886 Před 2 lety +1

      it shouldn't man, only weight affects acceleration. cheers

  • @stephenp.harris5050
    @stephenp.harris5050 Před 6 lety

    I'm very much a novice so plz bare with me, so with a neg offset (tire/rim will stick out farther) are the rims built/forged that way or is there some sort of spacer? Also, if one goes with a neg offset will that effect the integrity/ride/suspension? I have an 2015 Audi RS5 & wondering if offsetting would compromise the suspension or what monitors the suspension.

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 6 lety

      Offset doesn't compromise suspension much, but yes, the lower the offset ism the farther it sticks out. You can buy spacers or you can get them built deeper

  • @drunkenp0t
    @drunkenp0t Před 5 lety +1

    Can someone help me out I have a Infiniti q45 1999 I want 19" rim with step lip, so my question is what is the right setup for my car, going for a flush look thanks

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety

      Whats up man! Check out our online gallery we have thousands of Infiniti's on there. Check out and see what set up you like the best! bit.ly/2Ma4oca

  • @daisysemplonius3009
    @daisysemplonius3009 Před 5 lety +1

    I currently have a +45 offset but i want to go to a +37 offset. Is there any way to fix that difference? The rim size is also going from 5,5x15 to 7x17. Hope you can help me (sorry for m english i'm from holland)

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety

      No worries man! Shoot us an email at wheels@fitmentindustries.com and we can help you with that!

  • @sjcreeper1727
    @sjcreeper1727 Před 5 lety +1

    If I have 18x8.5 +35 and want 18x9.5 what offset would I meed to keep my fender/ lip the the same?

    • @FitmentIndustries
      @FitmentIndustries  Před 5 lety

      Hello there, I would suggest based on our online gallery somewhere in the ball park of +20 to +24! Take a look at our gallery as a reference to see what specs everyone else has for there rides! bit.ly/2XLXz6W