What's My Line? - Clete & Ken Boyer; Phyllis Diller; Sammy Davis Jr [panel] (Oct 11, 1964)
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- Continuing a trend, John very unusually gives away a bit too much information when he tries to evade Dorothy's first question. While this is nowhere near as extreme as his blunder in the prior week's show, he certainly did give Dorothy a big hint here. Less surprisingly, she leaped right onto it!
MYSTERY GUEST: Clete & Ken Boyer; Phyllis Diller
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Sammy Davis Jr., Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
NOTE: Though this is an abnormally short show, under 22 minutes, nothing is actually missing from it. No confirmed explanation is available, but it may have been due to election coverage. - Zábava
8:39 "Was your dad a great player in any field, Clete?" "Well, he had 13 children, he must have been a good player." Classic!
I think he expected that question and had the quip ready. He was already smiling when John Daly said "field".
Phyllis Diller's laugh never fails. Even after her passing, this is a laugh that will never be outdone.
Oh, the brilliance of that laugh -- Diller knew that laughter is infectious, and the audience understood that the laugh was directed at herself. Thus, everyone was in on the joke, and that's genius comedic talent in action.
Many people don't know that Phyllis Diller was a very talented pianist who sometimes played with symphony orchestras.
Always a class act and to see him perform at his height it was a sheer privilege - Sammy Davis Jr.
Forever great and never forgotten.
The "WML" episode w/Diller & Davis was great! Phyllis and Sammy are true entertainment legends.
The top ten tap dancers of all time, a distinguished list by the top experts put him at NUMBER THREE! He was that good.
I had to watch the Phyllis Diller part twice. I laughed and I cried. Cried because it all over now. She was one of a kind.
Loved seeing Sammy Davis on the panel.
Phillis was marvelous.
Even in this short clip it shows..... what a Legend Phyllis Diller will always be
-Legend My azz. Never did find that azz wipe funny. stupid,,,yes.
I met her and she was so kind! I asked her about her cigarette holder, and she laughed and told me "I don't smoke dear, it's just a stick". Using props to create a character is a great thing.
Yes, she wasn’t a smoker. Phyllis lived to be 95.
Dorothy's hairstyles became more and more excentric throughout the years....
Love the side eye from Dorothy and Arlene as she leaves lol. Also, Dorothy is a true fan of Phyllis, and love how she let her know!
Lew Freedman published the biography The Boyer Brothers of Baseball in 2015. The family of 13 children (7 boys, 4 girls) had three brothers (Kenton, also known as Ken, Clete and Cloyd) who all make it to the “big leagues.” Four other Boyers -- Wayne, Lynn, Ron and Len -- played in the minors, and one of Ken’s and one of Clete’s sons (Dave and Mickey) also signed professional contracts though they too did not reach the Majors). In total, that makes a total of 9 Boyers who inked contracts with professional organizations over a two generation span.
wow 60 yrs ago and Phyllis is still funny today
Phyllis Diller was SO ahead of her time
After all these years without her, Phyllis Diller can still fill my chest will immense laughter. Wow!
Dad had 13 children so he must have been a pretty good player, says Clete Boyer. Funny!
A third Boyer Brother, Cloyd, died on Sep 25, 2021 at the age of 94.
Kenton "Ken" Boyer (May 20, 1931 - September 7, 1982)
Cletis Leroy "Clete" Boyer (February 9, 1937 - June 4, 2007)
I love that Dorothy was such a big fan of Phyllis Diller. Dorothy is so polished and proper and Phyllis is just not. Love it!
Yes! All so delightful! We took for granted the manners of the day that now seem so captivating...
Dorothy was a lady's lady. Her sudden death saddened me so much!
Phyllis's non polished character was just an act. Did you know she was a classical concert pianist, too?
I saw her - late '60s or early '70s in a music performance. She only did one comedic thing at the very beginning to acknowledge her other career. When she sat down at the piano and took off her opera gloves to play, they were a trick pair of gloves that went on and on - an old vaudeville trick - from that moment on she was a focused musical professional and played wonderfully.
Dorothy was a mainstay at all the jazz nightclubs in New York, most of which featured comedians as well as jazz artists.
What fun it is to spend a little time with Phyllis Diller! It’s been so long!
"Are you ready for your complete physical, John?" LOL
OMG! that part had me laughing hysterically! caught everyone off guard!
I have adored Phyllis Diller since I was a wee little girl...LOVED this episode!!! ❤️
SO GLAD this ordinary person became SO SUCCESSFUL!
"Her laughter brought so much joy!"
Phyllis Diller had a 5 foot filing cabinet in her bedroom filled to the brim with jokes she wrote, categorized for easy access. Amazing.
Joan Rivers did the very same thing.
@twilliger123 I would imagine she had several huge books, thus the filing cabinet.
Bob Hope had many file cabinets
Okay you guys win
Dorothy's question at 4:00 is "Did I hear you say 'guest'?" prompting John's admission of a possibility other than singular .. but the actual slip was when John said "challengers" at 2:58 (he then said "challenger" in the next sentence). It seems that Dorothy noticed this and was sensitive to questions of number. John didn't speak with his usual bell-like clarity when he said "guest" -- perhaps a bit rattled from the "challengers" slip -- but by itself I don't think that would have alerted Dorothy to the issue.
I noticed it too. He tried to cover lol.
I worked at a wig shop in Palm Springs and talked to her often on the phone she was always kind and gracious
I met Clete Boyer at his restaurant, "The Hamburger Hall of Fame" in Cooperstown NY and he was a great man. I still think about the times he would sit down with the guests and talk about his glory days. I wish the restaurant was still around, but it wouldn't be the same without Clete
That was as close to being in the Hall of Fame as any of the Boyers actually got.
@@preppysocks209 Ken should be in the hall. Just as good as Santo. Plus he had a great WS.
She always referred to her husband as “Fang.” Very funny lady.
well it wasn't really her husband ; it was a dude she made up to be part of her act. LOL
@@EphemeralProductions
Did not know that! Thanks..
I saw her cohost the Mike Douglas show one week, with her husband Warde Donovan. He did not have fangs.
I fully recall Phyllis appearing on a Phil Donahue Show in the mid-to-later 1970's. An audience member asked Phyllis if "they" could see "Fang." Phyllis seemed to hesitate for just a second (and peered into the crowd) and asked aloud if "Warde" was around. He was, and came out to Mr. Donahue's introduction as "Fang." (I am kind of recalling that this was an "off-studio" taping - perhaps on location in Florida?) Anyway, "Mr. Fang" did appear, and seemed like an attractive (50-ish) business man. It was kind of disappointing, because a good many of us (comically) pictured "Fang" as someone like Bela Lugosi - this took all of the fun out of the Fang jokes for me after this. (I never stopped loving Phyllis however!)
You couldn't be in a bad mood when Phyllis Diller was in the room.
Notice how HAPPY she makes everyone. There are few comics today that can do that.
+poetcomic1 And that distinctive laugh of hers :)
She was one naughty grandmom.
Love her !
poetcomic1 You are so right
I was just saying I wished I lived in that era. People were more polite back then, there were no mass shootings, you could keep your doors unlocked during the day, etc.
everyone really loved her! that is awesome :)
I always watched Joan Rivers and I love her.
However I started watching Phyllis Diller.I just love love her.Shes soo funny.A true genius!Can't get enough of both of them!!!
When I feel depressed I just go onto CZcams and watch both of them.I laugh and laugh! Does help my depression!!
I see and hear Phyllis, and I'm 6 years old again, lying on the floor at Withers Road, screaming and shrieking and kicking the floor at her silly shenanigans. I didn't get the remark about the raisin bread, but my mama explained. Always have and always will.
( Love Phyllis )
John said "first challengers" right at the beginning. Then said guest when repeating the statement. I noticed, so did Dorothy!
Phylllis Diller was the absolute perfect hysterical comedic entertainer!!!
The world lost one of the greatest with her passing!!!
Phyllis Diller may not have been the funniest comedienne out there, but I think she was the most fun. She was also very funny!
actually, she was. the queen of standup comediennes, always. those that came after stand on the shoulders of a giant.
Where today would you find the delightful banter and impromptu humor as on these old WMLs? People today ache for that sort of thing. Nowadays everything is so super-sensitive and subject to litigation! I can see why these classic WML uploads are really taking off in popularity. Every one I watch puts a smile on my face.
James Vaughan Agreed! (I liked your comment above, regarding "Diabetes2" as well! ;)
Havng come into this world in 1954, I do not remember if I ever saw WML on TV. But even now, in 2014, I found myself drawn to the show, wondering what the "Line" of the ordinary person was and wondering if the Panel could figure out what it was or what the identity of the mystery guest was.
Once, I did not see the "Line" of the 2 window washers and must admit, I was just as stumped as the Panel.
True, Jim, and the same is true with most all of the To Tell The Truth shows of the same era.
+James Vaughan Think back to the Mystery Guest segment on the 6 September 1964 episode - just 5 weeks before this one. If Marty Allen and Steve Rossi had done that sort of political "shtick" on a similar game show today, all Hell would break loose all over the news-talk channels almost immediately afterward, and continue for days on end.
I think Phyllis is the fastest guest discover I've seen.
WOW that was quite a show! Sammy Davis Jr. on the panel, the guys in the audience whistle for Ms. Wein. And Phyllis Diller so funny.
You mean there was a time when women didn't consider cat calls as sexual harassment?
What I liked about Sammy's appearance is he didn't TRY to be funny or bring undue attention to himself like so many other "guest" panelists have done. For example, Phil Silvers, Groucho Marx, Buddy Hackett, just to name 3. He played the game the right way and had nothing to prove to anybody.
@@sweiland75 Well Dude exactly but those boneheads didn't learn
@@Walterwhiterocks I was thinking it would have been funny if instead of wearing the mask, Sammy just put an eyepatch over his good eye as a gag.
WOW THOSE BASEBALL BROTHERS ARE SOOOO HANDSOME!!!!!
Clete actually reminds me of Tyrone Power.
Phyllis’ hysterical line: I knew they'd get me right away because of my bad breath!!!!
Love Phyliss' boots
Loved when she talked about Fang!
I’m surprised no one here questioned what happened during Phyllis’s entrance. Did she have a wardrobe malfunction of some kind? Her brief time on was hilarious and everyone lost it when she made the joke about her breath. Pure Gold!
Fantastic show as always.
Thank you dearly for these uploads.👌👍🌟🙏
I first saw her full fabulous unique hysterical self on tv in the first third of the 1960's when I was a mid-teen! There has never been another one like her and never will again since she has left us!!!!! I was never the same after I first saw her!!!! I and those who were there were privileged!!!!! Too bad the young never have or could understand how she broke barriers!!!!!
Guest announcer tonight, Hall Simms, who announced WML in the 1950s to 1961.
This occurred after Game 4 of the World Series which the Cardinals won 4-3 on Ken Boyer's grand slam home run. This evened up the Series at two games a piece (Mickey Mantle had dramatically won Game 3 the previous day with a walk-off home run). The Cardinals ultimately prevailed in seven games and the Yankees would not see the World Series again until 1976. Brother Ken would manage the Cardinals from 1978 to 1980 and died of cancer in 1982. Clete Boyer was later a coach with the A's and Yankees and died in 2007.
epaddon My favorite AL team playing against my favorite NL team. Experts picked the Yankees, but by '64 the Cardinals were a better team.
thankyou for writing this clete and ken are my third cousins(grandmas cousins) its nice to hear when people know the history
Thanks sooooo much for this info.
The simple, polite, physical affection that JC Daley shows towards his guests - a hand on a man's upper arm, a few fingers around a lady's little finger, and arm on the shoulder in a funny moment - all of that lost now in this both more sexually free and more puritanical era...
I just 💘 that manic laugh of Phyllis
The 2nd contestant is a doll!
Oooh SAmmy on the panel!
Sammy was an amazing performer! Moon walked before Michael! He campaigned for Kennedy, then after the election he married May. He was then uninvited to the festivities!
Regarding the seven Boyer brothers, the oldest to play in the major leagues was Cloyd, a pitcher. He was four years older than Ken and ten years older than Clete. A spot starter, he pitched for the Cardinals from 1949-52 and then returned to the majors in 1955 with Kansas City. Hampered by arm injuries, he had a mediocre record: 20-23 with a 4.73 ERA over 111 games and 396 innings.
Ken was the best of the three who made the majors. He was NL MVP in 1964, leading the league in RBIs. As a rookie in 1955, he was the Cardinals starting third baseman and he stayed at the hot corner for the Cardinals (except for 1957 when he was their starting center fielder for much of the season) through 1965. After the 1965 season, the Cardinals traded Ken to the Mets for Charley Smith and Al Jackson. He was the starting third baseman for the Mets for 1½ seasons until the Mets traded him to the White Sox. At this point, he became a part-time player for the White Sox and then the Dodgers. He played his final game in August 1969 and retired when the Dodgers released him at the end of that season. Over his career he won five Gold Gloves at third base and played in 7 All-Star Games, batting .348. 1964 was his only World Series. He was capable of playing any position. Former General Manager for the Cards and Mets, Bing Devine, believed that if he could clone any one player to play all nine positions, a team of nine Ken Boyers could beat a team with any other player in baseball at that time. IMHO he is deserving of being in the Hall of Fame.
Clete was supposed to be the best player of the three. But he was one of many players hurt by the bonus baby rule that required Kansas City to keep him on their major roster for two years after he was signed directly out of high school for $35,000 on Memorial Day 1955. On a weak team, he played more than a lot of bonus babies, but as soon as his 2 years were up, he was the player to be named later to complete a 12-player spring training trade with the Yankees. He was immediately sent to the minors, was up and down with the Yanks in 1959 and became their starting third baseman in 1960. He played in five straight World Series from 1960-64. He never played in an All-Star Game. Although he was a better fielder than Ken (but inferior with the bat), he only won one Gold Glove and that was in 1969 after he was traded to Atlanta following the 1966 season. (He had the misfortune of getting established after Brooks Robinson who was the AL Gold Glove third baseman from 1960-75.) After settling on a $10,000 buyout of his contract with the Braves early in the 1971 season, no other major league team signed him. (After an investigation of collusion by the Commissioner's office, his $10,000 was returned.) He finished out that season in Hawaii of the Pacific Coast League and then played four seasons in Japan at double his best major league salary before retiring.
Besides being funny, I never knew how wonderful, classy and thoughtful MIss Diller waS
Ms. Diller was an amazingly talented painter as well! It just struck me how much Conan OBrian and she look alike!
Uh oh!
I see it...
Phyllis Diller. What a legend and funny woman :-)
Check out the clip of Phyllis Diller on You Bet Your Life with Groucho. Interesting to see her before she became the funny lady we all came to know and love.
I saw that, she was just getting started but she had a lot of confidence. She held her own with Groucho! She didn't have her full look yet, her hair wasn't frizzy yet
The "What's My Line?" episode from 1964 with Brian Epstein and Tony Bennett was great! Brian and Tony gave a good account of themselves, and the chemistry between John Daly and the panelists was superb.
I love the kids cheering their baseball heroes...so genuine and natural and full-throated.
I remember almost all of the "stars", but was too young to have seen any of these shows (well maybe the last ones in the mid/late 60's)...what a great find on youtube...I luv the more gentile and polite manners of the time....today people are so crass...I just wish the commercials were present...those bring back fond memories too...fyi, I was born in '57.
My favorite line: Fang buys her a mink stole; "it looked like an anchovy!"
Celebrities and people in general just seemed so much more refined back then and the humor was still there without having to swear.
Since I discovered you tube I've searched everything and everyone under the 🌞 including as much stand up comedy as I can, especially Phyllis Diller
"Beeckman Street"... Glowing review, only 29 performances. Them's the breaks of show biz.
RIP Miss Phyllis (She played a mean classical piano too)
I was a Cardinal s fan in the 50s and 60s and distinctly remember that great 3rd baseman, Ken Boyer
For the kiddies: Back in those days there were no playoffs, whoever was on top of the one division league at the end of the season won the pennant. Also, all of the post season games in those days were played during the day. In fact, if the World Series fell on one of the Jewish holidays (as it did from time to time) I had the MOST IMPORTANT job in the synagogue. I was the one to go out t the car every now and then and check on the score. My whole family were baseball nuts and my Uncle was a major league scout.
Fascinating stuff and as one who remembers how there used to be World Series games in the daytime on weekends (as late as the 80s) I wish they would bring that back. What team did your uncle scout for?
epaddon Mostly the Chicago White Sox (50's and 60's) but also the Mets, Royals, and when he died in 1999 at the age of 86 he was still working for the Atlanta Braves.
When baseball was king! It's still the best sport ever invented, in my humble opinion.
+Joe Postove Sandy Koufax, who was Jewish and the star pitcher of the Los Angeles Dodgers, refused to pitch the opening game of the 1965 World Series because it fell on Yom Kippur.
Jeff Vaughn I remember that Jeff. It was a grand day for we Jews. Hank Greenberg did the same in the 30's. However, he did play on Rosh 'a' Shona.
All three World Series games played at Yankee Stadium were decided by dramatic home runs. On Saturday, the Cardinals brought in knuckleball pitcher Barney Schultz to face Mickey Mantle and I recall him hitting Schultz's first pitch for a walk off home run, breaking a 1-1 tie. The Cardinals had batted for their starting pitcher, Curt Simmons in the top of the ninth.
On the day of the WML telecast, the Yankees scored all of their three runs in the first, but the Cardinals scored all of their runs in the sixth on Ken Boyer's grand slam home run off Al Downing (who later in his career would surrender the home run by Hank Aaron that broke Babe Ruth's career record).
The following day there was a pitching duel between the Cards' Bob Gibson and rookie Mel Stottlemyre of the Yanks. The Cards pushed across two runs in the fifth inning. But helped by a Dick Groat error, Tom Tresh came to the plate with two outs in the bottom of the ninth and homered off of Gibson to send the game into extra innings. In the tenth, Tim McCarver hit a three run homer off of Pete Mikkelsen to send the World Series back to St. Louis with the Cards leading 3 games to 2.
Phyllis was also an accomplished classical pianist!!!
I knew about her being an accomplished classical pianist, as I go to see her preform one time that I hope was recorded. I have tried to find and see on CZcams or other places of her preforming classical pianist. Do you have any of her performances recorded or do you know where I can watch them. It was the most beautiful performance to me and I would like to see it again. Thank you.
@@lynnhowdeshell2641: Sorry no.
Kenny Boyer,was such a gracious human being,and a fantastic 3rd baseman for the St.Louis Cardinals!!
I met Clete Boyer at the Mickey Mantle Museum in Cooperstown, late 90's. Very nice man, humble, very accommodating, down to earth. Took pictures with me and my wife and daughter, found out I was a huge Yankee fan and signed an 8x10 "to #1 Yankee fan". Quite a thrill! Huge man!
What a wonderful wonderful woman was that great lady, Phyllis Diller
The 1964 World Series was the last World Series of the great Yankee dynasty years. After they lost the '64 World Series in seven games to the Cardinals they fell on hard times. They didn't win another pennant until 1976.
Lava1964 I live in St. Louis and drive past the site of the old Sportsmans Park where this series was played in 1964. I grew up with the Cardinals and have been a fan since I was 9 years old. I adopted the Yankees as my favorite AL team about 15 years ago. When I pass by the old Sportsmans Park site I think with mixed feelings about that day in October of 1964. Happy about the Cardinals re-emerging as a dynasty in the 60's, but sadness that the 40 year Yankee Dynasty, the greatest in sports history ended that day.
What a joy to see people treat one another respectfully!
Did you hear the audience groan when Dorothy whispered the answer to Sammy?
Yes, I heard them. I realize the point of the game is for the panelists to guess the identity of the mystery guest, but if she knew it THAT quickly, she should have disqualified herself just so the fun of guessing could continue a little while longer.
Dorothy was too egotistical for me
Ray Izard she cheated!
In hindsight, Dorothy did us a favor by revealing Phyllis so quickly. This allowed her to entertain everyone for the rest of the show.
I like Dorothy, but what she did here (tipping off the name of the "mystery guest" to Sammy Davis) was fully against the rules of WML. I have watched "years" of these WML programs and have never seen another panelist tip off the next questioner with the "answer." I am guessing/hoping that Mr. Daly laid down the law (to all panelists - present and future) that this was not acceptable.
Both Ken and Clete died relatively young. Ken in 1982 from lung cancer and Clete in 2007 from complications from a brain hemorrhage. A third baseman's fielding talents can be more important than his batting as Clete had rather marginal career batting statistics, he hit 162 home runs with 654 runs batted in and a .242 batting average in 1,725 games played. Ken was somewhat better at the plate: batting average.287, home runs 282 ,runs batted in 1,141.
Clete was considered an outstanding defensive third-baseman, right behind Brooks Robinson of Baltimore in the AL and in the 1961 World Series he had put on a great defensive exhibition similar to what Robinson would later do in the 1970 World Series and what another Yankee third-sacker Graig Nettles would do in 1978. Because he was a right-handed hitter he could never get as many home runs in Yankee Stadium but when he went to the Braves in 1967 with their launching pad of a Stadium he then put up the best offense number of his career.
epaddon Robinson spent his entire career, 22 years with the Orioles.
Joe Postove I take it Ken and Clete were at least relatively close. Watching the two of them here I get a definite Big Brother-Little Brother vibe. They are also buried next to each other in MO.
@@MrJoeybabe25 Ken was a better hitter than Brooks. Also a fine fielder. He should be at Cooperstown, just like Santo.
Kenny Boyer was One of the First Baseball players that I bought with a packet of Baseball Cards! It was a THRILL for me to have Kenny Boyer's Flip Baseball Card before my older sister did!
I first saw her full fabulous unique hysterical self on tv in the first third of the 1960's when I was a mid-teen!
Sammy Davis introduces Arlene as being in the production "Beekman Street" when it was actually "Beekman Place".
I wouldn'tve recognized Phylis Diller, but I would have known her instantly after she laughed!
Phyllis was absolutely hysterical!!
Diller was a riot. Just hilarious! 😂
Phyllis Diller was a true original!
It’s shameful the young people today never knew Phyllis Diller the first PUNK!!!!!!
Always heard the name Clete Boyer and now I know what he looked like. which isn't saying too much since I was around for the 64 series.
Aired exactly two years before I was born
Love CZcams
Had they known, they most certainly would have waited.
My son looks like Sammy Davis Jr he's not a tall young man either. And he wears glasses too. Doppelganger I they call it. Sammy Davis's mother was Spanish according to a biography of him I read.
I first saw her on TV in the 1960's as a kid. I loved her.
Phyllis and Sammy Davis were old friends. ONLY WML black and white kiss as a mystery guest goes off. The show got howls from the South but didn't care.
+poetcomic1 I wondered about that; since the whole Petula Clark/ Harry Belafonte "incident" which I think was in the 60's when Chrysler threatened to pull its advertising.
Petula Clark kissed Harry Belafonte? SHOCKING! I will never go downtown again.
In the 50s there were LOTS of black celebrities and even a few civilians who either kissed or shook hands with the white panelists....Ella Fitzgerald, Nat King Cole, Sammy Davis, Louis Armstrong, Eartha Kitt, Pearl Bailey, Muhammad Ali, etc.
rtususian The touching of black and white hands was bad enough to some hate-filled viewers. But the "kisses," albeit chaste, were the physical overtures that sent some of those type viewers into states of frenzy.
@@poetcomic1 no, she did not kiss him. She merely placed her hand on his arm.
If you've seen the original Odd Couple movie, that's Ken starting the 5-4-3 triple play for the Mets at Shea Stadium.
My God. I was just a youngster living in St Louis at the time and was a huge Cardinals fan. Ken was the 3rd baseman
1964 Phillies had a 6 1/2 game lead with 12 games to go & blew it.😳⚾️
Clete Boyer was a great third baseman.
Ken & Clete Boyer... class all the way... when baseball was fun and accessible... more human.... when America was truly great!
John Daly saw the game because it was played in the daytime... those were the days my friend
It makes me cringe that they never came up with 3 rd chair! 😵
Diller is hilarious!
The show would have kicked off at the normal 10:30 time and then ended early for a five minute spot for Goldwater or Johnson at 10:55. There would be any other reason for a shorter show, where all the elements are there.
Joe Postove Dorothy has taken some criticism for telling Sammy Davis, Jr. to ask if the mystery guest was Phyllis Diller, but in her defense they were working with five less minutes than normal. Besides Phyllis is far funnier as herself rather than that squeaky voice she was using!
John was clearly still in a generous mood...
I have never seen film of Bennett speaking in front of an audience. I wonder if any exists?
Love, Phyllis!!!
Ha ha Sammy's introduction of Arlene.....putting on his "oh-so-posh" accent like a good little boy at a Sunday morning C of E church service.
Phyllis Diller was as cute as a button.
An accomplished pianist