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NEW GRAINFATHER G30 ACCESSORIES | HOME BREWING WITH THE MALT MILLER
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- čas přidán 14. 10. 2023
- Grainfather have always been a business that has put the user experience, functionality and features of products and great beer at the front of what they do. It's why we have always had a strong passion for their products and use them regularly in our brews here at TMMHQ.
One thing they do well is bring new version of the tried and tested products out which build on the user experience and performance of the systems. The other thing which is always nice to see is that where they can they bring new components from the new systems out as optional extras for previous owners.
In this video Rob and Stiffo put the new Grain Basket from the Grainfather G30v3 and the new Hop Filter Plate to the test!
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A couple of days ago I bought the new V3 grain basket. Finally no more pipework and top bottom plates and gaskets. But now I see a new thing that I have to buy and that is the new bottom filter. I missed that completly. Thanks guys!
I have recently purchased both of these items and I’m very pleased with both of them. Game changer 👍
I’d love to upgrade the malt pipe on my g30 but it’s far too expensive, a trade in scheme would’ve been better option
What would they do with the old ones though?
@@OysterBoysBrewingCo recycle the metal
You can sell the old parts that’s what I will be doing
Stainless steel kilo price is between 1-2 dollar. So you can get that discount when you trade in the metal @ recycle company. ;)
Well that's my Christmas wishlist sorted 😁
Thanks, looks good! Would have been interesting to have seen a shot of the bottom of the GF after the filter plate was pulled out - did much trub get through?
Wondering if the filter plate avoids element scorching (and potential cutout) ... or makes it worse because you can no longer rub a paddle over the element during the boil?
Almost no trub got through, the wort was super clear too. We have done a brew with leaf as well and it was just as good
Having done my first brew with these two upgrades. A Pilsner with 100g Saaz T90s. I have to say I am delighted with the malt pipe. No fiddling to set up, doughing in so much better, less to clean, easier to empty, chances of a slow or stuck sparge very remote. Was hoping for a better mash efficiency which didn't really happen though. The filter plate, mainly positive. Clearest wort I've had from a Grainfather, fast run off, no whirpooling required. But, as has been mentioned in other comments, you have lost the ability to scrape the base during the boil, which in my case resulted in a lot of baked on gunk which was a pain to remove. Having normally just wiped with lemon juice and a paper towel. This took elbow grease and a steel scrubber, which I don't like to use. It wasn't burnt on enough as to spoil the batch and maybe a one off. But something I will be wary of in the future. Overall on a sample size of precisely one brew. So glad I bought the malt pipe. Jury still out on the filter.
We're a few brews in now with the filter, we haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary yet with the element but will keep an eye on it. The beers we have made have been standard gravity, not tons of wheat etc... That might be next on the experiment list!
Try dipping a sieve in the boil and see how much grain particles are getting boiled from not being recirculated
@@indiekiduk that's why I'm sticking with my original basket , even that used to let huge amounts of particles into the boil . Since using the BAC fine mesh screen on the bottom plate the wort is particle free .
So, for what it's worth, I'm updating my thoughts a few months and brews on. They have changed considerably. The malt pipe is now consigned to the back of the cupboard forever, or to be sold. It's rubbish. Yes it has advantages, but in my experience it has two massive disadvantages. Firstly, going back to what I said before, it just lets too much trub through. I brewed a wheat beer that had so much scorching on the bottom the heating element cut out twice, the wort was burnt and had to be dumped. This is the first batch of beer I've ever chucked down the drain in 10 years of brewing. None wheat beers weren't quite so bad but still a lot worse than with the original kit. Secondly, mash efficiency nosedived. I plan my recipes on 80%, I got between 62% and 72% with this, no matter how slowly I sparged. I suspect mainly because the recirc and sparge, flow mainly out of the side holes and not fully through the grain bed as before. I have returned to the original malt pipe now. Much less trub. Efficiency restored.
The hop plate however, I find excellent as a false bottom now I know what I'm doing with it. I add it after the malt pipe has been removed and the bottom has had a good scrape. This gives excellent wort clarity even with large volume hop stands and clean up is a doddle again. No need to whirlpool and no pump flow issues.
I understand other peoples takes may be different. Maybe mine has a machining issue or something. But this is my conclusion on the use of these products. Happy brewing.
@@richardhaynes2025 Very helpful; thanks for your experiences. I'd wondered how I'd know if I had a stuck mash or sparge with the v3 pipe. It's easy to tell with the central overflow because you can see how fast the bed is draining if you stop the recirculation flow - not so much when the wort is free to drain through the sides of the malt pipe. I think I may save the cash for other brewing-related things 🙂
Certainly looks interesting. I have a G30 and I always wonder what you are talking about when you mention the silicon bit that fits around a plate in the Malt tube. Mine fits around the Top Plate nowt around the Bottom one and the Top one goes onto the top of the grain 'COLD into a Malt Pipe which is HOT without much trouble at all. Bearing in mind that only the Top Plat is actually a circle and the Grain Basket is VERY unlikely to be perfectly round it slots in where it fits.
I agree with other market Hop Filter plates. The clearance between the bottom of the Grain Basket and the added Plate can lead to a backing up of the return pipe flow. I have one but collapsed one of the legs so that there is more clerarance and it sems to work but the one you show looks good. I wonder if it would have sufficience clearance for use with the present Grain basket which of course has a nut at the bottom of the return/overflow pipe.
Need to check some prices.
You’ve kindly sent me the new malt pipe, two batches in my efficiency has taken a big hit. Thinking it must be the sparge issue to work on.
Yes, since there is more filtration area you can runs the risk of sparking to fast. However, with the old basket we are getting something like 85%, I would take a drop from that for the ease 👊
Great vid as always Gents… 🍺
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The Bac Brewing gf30 false bottom 2mm is great, used it for a few years now. I love the new basket, but sadly it's way too expensive.
Well guys. Ive bought the new malt pipe and the new hop strainer. Tomorrow is brew day so after that, I'll let you know.
On my 1st ever use of Geainfather, the hops blocking the filter was the biggest problem so, i hope thats resolved.
Now, a question. This was a big expense and the upgrade was a big expense. What do i now do with all the redundant parts?
Do let us know how you get on! One top tip, the wort flows through the malt much faster so we now dial down the flow with the red ball valve on the side, so keep an eye on the level of wort on top of the mash for your first few brews to get a handle on where you need to throttle it to
This new filter-plate: any issues with scorching on the heating plate? I had issues when using a brewzilla filter plate (burned flavour beer isn't nice). Cheers 🍻
Not at all, but we're keeping an eye on it.
Do you have a link for the "Old School" West Coast IPA? I got 5kg MO, 500g Simpson T50 Crystal, 200g T90 Cascade with 20/20/20/20 Boil & 120g Whirlpool. Yeast I suspect is US-05
This is s great base for a classic West Coast, www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/elusive-brewing-oregon-trail-ipa/?v=79cba1185463
Malt pipe looks great. Would love to be able to buy one. 😂
And does the filter plate resist flipping over when whirlpooling with a drill and the gf whirlpool paddle, like I've had with one from the other systems? I know you said it's tried and tested, and will work brilliantly - but would be interested in real experience. Have you given it a good hard spin?
No we didn’t use the paddle, we can give it a try but based on how solid it is and the tight fit I’d be surprised if it did 👍🏻
@@themaltmiller8438 Sounds good. The other system one is definitely pretty flimsy, and far from a perfect fit!
Nice upgrades. Now Grainfather just needs to release a steam condenser.
(they do.....)
This fits the G30 - www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/brewzilla-steam-condenser-set/
Good vid as always. Was there any scorching on the element? I normally find myself scraping the element a few times through the boil and it would be impossible to do that with the plate installed
Not at all, we have brewed with this a few times now and not had that issue. As we said though, we do think that GF will need to ensure the software is adapted for this was the boil rate is far higher it seems.
Can you use the false bottom in a Version 2 Grainfather as an upgrade?
Yes! And the grain basket too!
Thanks for this. Another informative video. You're not helping with my "Grainfather or Brewzilla" conundrum though!
Sorry to hear that 😉
Thanks guys. Are there any concerns re the bottom scorching now the is no access to scrape it as was suggested in the original instructions?
We've not had issues personally, however we are keen to hear how others get on with it
@@themaltmiller8438 thanks, actually now I think about it the scorching is only a possibility during the boil when the basket has been removed, so likely a non issue
Are the malt pipes due back in stock?
They’ve flown out!! We’re waiting on a restock for the supplier, if you join the waitlist you’ll get an email as soon as they come back 👍🏻
@@themaltmiller8438👍 Thanks, hopefully news on availability of the new jacketed miniuni soon also?
Why is the new pipe/hose that comes with it so long? Is it meant to sit at the bottom? Doesn’t that hamper recirculating from top to bottom?
You loop it around at the top of the mash so it’s sitting above the grain
Hey guys, when is the hop plate going to be back in stock?
Hopefully soon, have you joined the waitlist on the product? If you do we will email you as soon as it comes back into stock www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/grainfather-g30-hop-plate/
Does the plate go in from the start of the brew or do you drop it in before the boil and hop additions?
before the hop additions, otherwise it would stop grain recriculation working during mash and you'd have a ton of grain stuck in the boil and might burn.
From the start, no need to keep it out for the mash, if your mashing correctly then you won't have much grain getting through, especially with the new malt pipe set up
@@themaltmiller8438 but it's a recirculation mash system so you do want some grain getting through and pumped back to the top. I would test it by dipping a sieve in the boil and seeing how much grain for stuck I bet there is a lot.
Does the plate fit with the brewzilla 35 gen 3.1.1?
We don't have a 3.1.1 here to check but it does fit the Gen 4, however the malt pipe then dent fit correctly as the GF filter plate is taller than the brewzilla one
Tempting…
Why have you released a promo video on a product that’s out of stock? That’s just mean!
Ha! They shot out as soon as we got them in!