Minis Forum V3 3in1 Tablet

Looking forward to the review of this as a Linux device.

The Realtek sound issue has a simple solution. You see, what you're hearing is a leak in the plasma conduits between the tertiary collector and the primary mainfold. If we re-route power to the secondary manifold it should allow us to close off the tertiary conduits and effect repair. The same problem did exist on DS9, but Chief O'Brien was able to use parts from the Rio Grande's secondary injectors to patch the leak and get the station up and running smoothly again. Thanks for exposing the flaw, Realtek!

Wendell, that's probably the most expensive box cutter I've ever seen... Using the RTX A4000 SFF as a box cutter! I have been waiting to see your review of this tablet! I knew you would end up doing one... Can't wait to see a follow-up with this thing using Linux.

$230 to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB RAM, with the same storage? Awww, Minisforum thinks they're Apple.
Edit: BTW, video shows the stylus included in a bundle - that deal is over and it's $59 now.

I have pre-ordered a V3 tablet. I've been extremely impressed with Minisforum mini PCs, such as the UM780 XTX. I was going to buy a Lenovo Legion Go gaming handheld, to play the games my Steam Deck couldn't, and then saw the V3 early bird offer felt this offered better value when I considered all its other use cases it has as well.

Yes! I was waiting for you to review this!

Been thinking about preordering this, thank you very much for reviewing. Couldn't have come at a better time

What a time to be alive! 🤣

I've already been considering buying this, just waiting for linux review!

Dam you Wendell. I just mitigated my urge to replace my chuwi hi13 by putting fedora 40 KDE on it, and now it you know .... works; it did not work with windows 10 on it. Now i want this! Why do you always make me want to buy stuff.

2:54 that’s a silicon carbide transistor power brick, that’s why it’s small and awesome, asianometry has a great video on it

Video in is insanely awesome

Yes, please. Test it with linux and let us know everything about it. (specially power management/efficiency) This could very well be my next OTG machine.

Perfect timing, my Surface Pro 4 is dying. Gonna look into this. Thanks, Wendell!

I received my May 1 and I sent it back May 3 because it wasn’t working. They still haven’t sent me a replacement device and they keep giving me the runaround! Can’t say it’s been a great experience!

Love the idea of the matte screen. Might pick one of thess up to replace my Tab S8+. Plus I should be able to play some games on it

one thing i discovered on V3 you can use display as external display and ... keyboard too!

I got mine two weeks ago and am loving it. My better half has had a blast drawing on it. We got the preorder 1tb/32gb version with the free stuff. We are loving it. It is ok at aaa games and barely gets warm. My only issue is the kickstand covers air ports. Gonna try manjaro xfce soon unless I find a better touch version of linux. Bottom line is we are probably gonna order a second, don’t want to share. May add an egpu later and a dock to say bye to the desktop.

wow, the parallax when you were using the pen, also the latency too. I thought I would pick it up when it's on sale, but i think i will wait for the next gen.
On-paper, it has a display-in, which would be great even when the hardware is obsolete, this is such a nice feature.

I pulled the trigger the day it was announced. Can't wait for it to ship. Please investigate Linux support. I'm wondering whether it would be fully functional.

This tablet at 20w scores the same as the iPad pro M4 at 20w in cinebench. The power profiles available on the Minisforum app cap at 28W reaching temps of 60°C, but you can actually unlock it even more and go all the way up to 37w with this if you don't mind running your tablet at 80°C, granted those are the temps the handhelds run it at 18w.
The benefits do not scale linearly, but you do get an extra 10-15% performance in scores and fps while gaming. Which is a lot.

I would definitely be interested in a video exploring Linux on that tablate. Something close to Steam OS

Haha the engine noise, made me think of an opening scene from Lower Decks when they are all trying to hum the sound of the engine and Ransom thinks they have been taken over by aliens or something.

I saw a Linux review on this. It was somewhat promising, but I believe he had to use some workarounds to get everything to work.
If this can easily work with Linux, I would love to have something like this.
Can the HDMI (?) input be used without shutting down the computer portion?

I have a 65w Anker NanoII power brick that is about that size if not smaller. Does not get hot when charging my Laptop no less. Including one though. Top notch

For the folks asking questions around why certain design decisive have been made, such as screen size, screen refresh, USB port selection for V-link etc. There is an interesting CZcams video "Design journey of minisforum v3" just uploaded by an individual who states they aren't an employee but appears to have a good handle on the design path"

Love your vids Wendell, would love an ARM version for longer battery life, cooler and quieter hardware, and full power even when not charging.

Had the keyboard been surface book style, maybe even with an eGPU embedded, I would be interested

I would really like a follow up video getting linux to run on this, if I were to purchase one I would love to put a linux distro on it.

It also works with an Aorus gaming box 1070.

It is really cool that the keyboard and track pad work over vlink, but really unfortunate that pen and touch don't.

What about Linux? Tried any distro?

14:15 that trailing should be software controlled, at least if that's a wacom-like. Most prefer that actually, makes for a much more readable handwriting, for instance. If you look a bit closer, it does not actually trail fully behind your strokes, but act as if the point would have a momentum.

I Hope Framework will make a Tablet!

I would like to see how well the Bazzite-Deck image runs on it.

I oped for Asus Z13 with 4060 built in.

Does AMD’s PCIe-over-USB-C support PCIe AER?

the VLink is neat and all, but I'd prefer a 3rd (and 4th) USB port. If they can make it so it can be used as both, that would be awesome

With the eGPU can you directly use the video in and not send the video output via USB4?

Excelente. 💯

If I didn't already have a Surface 6 Pro, which is ok as a travel device I would be very, very tempted.

How does the display in work? They advertise it with the sff pc. But like does that mean I can just plug it in and it works? Because I won’t have a spare monitor to configure the sff pc

Good to know windows no longer supports multiple touch screens. As someone that has two touch screens and a Wacom tablet connected to my desktop PC at all times, it is one more reason for me to keep using Linux.
As for the tablet, I do not need one right now but I will keep my eye on Minis Forum. I have been arguing for ages that all tablets should work as a secondary monitor so thumbs up for that. Now, to check all my boxes, 1) they only need to sell a cheaper version with no OS so that a user can install their own OS of choice and 2) state if their digitizer is compatible with Wacom so I can reuse either my S-Pen or another Wacom Pen I already own.

I almost purchased this tablet, but my major concerns are: 1 Reparability, 2 Replacement parts, 3 Rugged Keyboard Case options, all of these are major concerns, I just hope Dell make one with similar hardware.

Would be cool if it can run 2 or 3 4k@60hz monitors from one of these USB 4 ports. Does it support DP 2.0 via USB 4?

If you do try a Linux install, can you check battery usage windows vs linux? I bought this and the battery life is very poor. I'll switch over to Linux if it give me better battery life.

Apple uses a lamented screen that puts the stylus closer to the pixels on the display. Makes a HUGE difference. Increases replacement costs though.

I wouldn't mind an FFXIV: Dawntrail benchmark ran :) Been trying to get someone with a V3 to run that benchmark for about two weeks. Which, coincidentally, is just a few days before I actually ordered one for myself. Sadly, Minisforum hasn't shipped it yet :(

Actually on the 2024 iPad Pros you can get a mat or Nano texture finish😅

It's a realtek driver problem, i got the same on a Dell XPS 13

3 in one was tablet monitor and laptop i think im sure theres more uses tho

Pretty annoying that the battery is not user replaceable, love to see the Linux support video?

One for the road :P

3:30 I think he meant to say "Full size SD Card Slot"

rgar rubber will go bad in hot climates like in Asia I have seen over and over its sad to find a " sticky" item in the draw if put aside for few months

Would love to see blender 4.1 and a compilation workload on Linux :)

Will it run Linux?

Q: would Wesley Crusher jailbreak it?

Why not a Surface instead?

Not user serviceable means it becomes E-waste earlier. On ebay only 3 year old laptops with 8GB soldered RAM sell for well under £200.

Does this tablet allow you to set it to a 120Hz display mode? 165 is a weirdo refresh rate that's not a multiple of 24 or 60, so you'll get uneven pacing when playing videos (something like 3:2 pulldown, but different numbers).

I don't see the details on using the device as a monitor with the "VLink" stuff. I imagine it'll run at the same refresh rate since it would be silly not to, but what sort of response times does it see? If it's reasonable, as a traveling business gamer I could see a world where I daily drive this for business, but then travel with a SFF config desktop for evening gaming hotel entertainment without having to lug around a nice monitor.

AMD is also working with Microsoft in creating giant scale LLM

one with strix halo please.

Can it run Lightroom?

Add a couple of USB ethernet dongles and install Proxmox.

How does this linux?

Linux testing. I'd love to see how that monitor pass through magic is treated with Linux on there

At the rate that new PCs are "shrinking" I'm hoping to see ultra low power "watch" form factor soon.

The word on the street is that Minisforum hired the same guy that designed the Apple Magic Keyboard to design the keyboard on this tablet too!

People are complaining about price when a equivalent surface pro 9 would cost twice the price doesn't include a keyboard and cannot really game at all while the v3 can and also be used as a monitor

This is super cool to see.
However, I feel like they are late to the Tablet party. You have a laptop sized device that has the capability of a phone.
Big tablets are kind of awkward as a 'mobile' device, and if you have a table to put it down on to use, why not have a full blown laptop?
I have used large tablets in the 12-13" range and a 13" laptop that I try to use whenever I don't need a full blown desktop for rendering/processing/gaming. Weight and size are about the same, and the tablet has far too many restrictions to make it useful outside of watching videos. I have used iPad Pro's, Surface Pro's and Go's and they aren't that much smaller than a more capable laptop. Surface Pro comes close but they are quite pricey for what you get (performance wise value).
That said, I need a new 12-13" ish laptop... and this thing looks pretty neat.

Can you use the keyboard when using the tablet as a monitor?

cool but I bet minisforum couldn't resist putting a backdoor in- that said the conventional market is horrid

But where was the Copilot button review???? /s

Linux tests please 👍

"Not user serviceable" that's all I needed to hear. I was even browsing the product specification page when I heard that and closed the tab out. Guess I'll stick to laptops for the family gaming machines. Was thinking this was perfect device to help transition my 5yo from tablet games like Minecraft to PC gaming. But with a 5yo if I can't user service it then its not even worth considering for that use case.

Tablet that can be used as secondary display? Yes Please!!! Have been looking for this feature for ages... Wireless displays suck..

I'd read somewhere Apple has the patent on the Surface type stand and licences it to Microsoft

I'd love to see Linux tested on this thing

Please collab with GN as in the last collab you said you would do a commercial/enterprise SSD test.

The tablet stand is supposed to be folded down from the top, so the vents are exposed.

The latency (trail behind actual position of mouse while in use) during drawing is a inherent panel / hardware flaw, nothing related to Windows.
Tablets are notorious for this, they're really far away from the optimal >=1000Hz polling rate. I'd argue this probably isn't even 120hz touch sampling rate.
As to why it's so prevalent, one might assume it's a compromise done for better battery life. I wish they'd allow for altering this when charging for a better drawing experience.

Please, please, please do the Linux testing and report back to us on this thing. I'm really interested in one, but I don't want anything to do with Win11.

10-12 inch ?

13:15 PPAP

Linux!!! Fedora, run podman, test pen.

Their M.2 looks easier to get to than the steam deck....

The engines on the enterprise don’t sound like that 😂😂😂😂 🙄

Linux test!

ever reviewer struggles to use the stand. its definitely an unique design

Mac touchpads ackchyually click you. You press on the touchpad, software registers this and "clicks" the actuator against the surface. Sad nobody else does it, probably because apple patented the shit out of it

Does it run Crysis? 😂

I've said for years that if I get to be a billionaire - I will make a tablet with 2 M.2 slots, and 4 microsd card slots. Lets not get overly specific, but screw tablets that don't have storage options.
While I like this device, storage limits mean I won't even look at it.

& the tablet keyboard has a copilot button! It’s actual way better than the MSFT surface tablet!

You would think an apple should be rotting from the inside out and not a window. I don't know, maybe they are all wooden windows.

yeah but for $1,200 you can get away more powerful AMD based laptop

I really hope this works better than the pile of junk mini PC they sent me, you should see the amount of people having problems with minisforum rubbish, my UM773 would randomly reboot several times a day, there were strange permissions errors appearing in the logs, cant get a straight answer from them and the discord help section is full of people parroting the same fixes that did nothing, and why should I have to fix something bought new just to make it usable, I'm comenting here because it was one of the minisforum mini PC's I saw on your channel that prompted me to get one, what a mistake that was :/ now they want me to send their junk back at my expense.

That crackling shouldn't be there.

Microsoft is crazy with that AI shit. These companies don't care if it doesn't make sense. They're just drudging on trying to cling to infinite growth at any cost. And it'll devour us all