Missing 411 | The Missing Men of Mount Rainier

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    Mount Rainier is a towering peak shrouded in legends; some going back to an ancient flood, others describing demonic forces atop the dormant volcano which toss unfortunate souls into a lake of fire at its center. More recently, however, the slopes have been associated with the enigmatic Missing 411 phenomenon. In 2010, Eric Lewis vanished from the glacial surface of the summit approach. A decade earlier, Joseph Wood Jr. failed to return from a hike at the 4800’ level. Long before that, in 1957, Lowell Lin disappeared into thin air while making his way down to meet his friend Harry Holcomb. And in 1950, Marcella Ramisky’s mother lost track of her, only for the five year old to be found miles away on a ridge. The question is, was what happened to these people a series of tragic accidents, or something more sinister? Welcome back to The Lore Lodge

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    0:00:00 - Cold Open
    0:00:21 - Introduction
    0:02:11 - Background
    0:13:05 - The Ascent
    0:17:53 - The Search
    0:21:48 - Theories
    0:38:41 - The Sasquatch Lore of Mount Rainier
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  • @TheLoreLodge
    @TheLoreLodge  Pƙed 29 dny +50

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    • @VocalHero86
      @VocalHero86 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      @TheLoreLodge Puyallup is pronounced "Pew-AL-up," with the emphasis on "AL" and with "AL" being pronounced like "Al Sharpton" ... Dont ask me why i chose his name specifically to explain it, your guess is as good as mine lmao. And thank you for doing a video about M411 in my hometown-ish! Reppin Tacoma 253 baybee :D

    • @thesasquatch303
      @thesasquatch303 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      nah dude your hate for david is ruining your channel especially since hes never claimed to know what the phenomenon is your baseless knit picking attack (cause its definitely not appropriate criticism) on a fellow researcher is shamefull used to like your channel for well done thought out research but your covering on missing 411 just aint it bro

    • @matthewcline5040
      @matthewcline5040 Pƙed 28 dny +6

      @@thesasquatch303so peer reviewing and bringing light to evidence that didn’t exist prior when it was published. That’s hate. Calling out misinformation or misunderstandings isn’t hate. It’s correcting information. Tell me you don’t watch his videos without telling me.

    • @Skelstoolbox
      @Skelstoolbox Pƙed 28 dny +2

      always skip over the "native history" of every story, mostly just to get back to the actual story, and why I clicked in the first place, lol.

    • @DlK69
      @DlK69 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Hey aiden the advice that your German Teacher gave you is correct...
      If you would ask the place you're at "könnte ich die Rechnung haben" before you payed they would just Look at your like a weirdo because getting the "Rechnung" needs to happen after paying.
      But generally speaking i would advice to never ask for the "Rechnung" because giving out "Rechnungen" makes it impossible for them to "optimize" on the amount of Taxes.
      Taxation is theft.

  • @JE4-1
    @JE4-1 Pƙed 28 dny +1573

    Dear Aidan, you need to look into the disappearances on Mount Nyangani Mountain in Zimbabwe. Tons of people disappear on that mountain and no one knows why. It's such a huge problem, that the GOVERNMENT installed cameras (!) on the mountain and if you want to hike there you need 1. A guide and 2. your mobile phone needs to be fully charged. And yet people still go missing and the most baffling thing is that this should be impossible because the mountain is a PLATEAU where people can be seen easily. The circumstances in which people disappear are typically missing 411 cases. Not long ago 2 boys disappeared out of a group (!) and were found dead in shallow water and the place where they were found had been searched before. Hell, a whole delegation from India disappeared there for days and when they were found they didn't even know that they were missing for such a long time. They thought it was just a few hours. The shamans living around the mountain are saying that it's a holy place and warn travelers that they need to follow certain rules or otherwise they will disappear. 2 of these rules are: 1. Don't wear red or bright clothes and 2. if you see something that's really strange/unusual: Pretend you didn't see it and walk away - never ever go investigate or you disappear. This isn't just some African shamans saying this, the same rules are found all around the world like Asia, Europe and in the US like the Appalachians. That these rules exist all over the world is not a coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why so many people disappear is that they didn't know about rule number 2 I just mentioned.Nyangani

    • @mecahhannah
      @mecahhannah Pƙed 28 dny +63

      That is what I was thinking too I hope they do cover it!

    • @khillsy4489
      @khillsy4489 Pƙed 28 dny +11

      No, it will turn out everyone was wrong except this guy.

    • @exiledark6573
      @exiledark6573 Pƙed 28 dny +74

      If you hear your name being called, another human in the distance crying out for help, or see anything strange or unusual happen and you react to it, you’re in big trouble. Also, don’t let them know your name.

    • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
      @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Pƙed 28 dny

      Cult of kidnapping shamans?

    • @alexisasheep6554
      @alexisasheep6554 Pƙed 28 dny +38

      Sounds interesting, I always wonder if there's gas that affect people in places like that

  • @nickperri6571
    @nickperri6571 Pƙed 28 dny +376

    Boeing’s hitman, finishing this video, breaths a sigh of relief that his already busy schedule won’t have to get any busier

    • @pandat581
      @pandat581 Pƙed 26 dny +26

      When i heard he was a boeing engineer I immediately went "welp, we know what happened to that guy"

    • @M167A1
      @M167A1 Pƙed 7 dny

      Bigfoot works for Boeing?

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien Pƙed 4 dny

      @@pandat581 nonsensical conspiracy

    • @lykonic1763
      @lykonic1763 Pƙed 3 dny +1

      Idk why but I read this in the Stanley Parable narrator voice and it was oddly fitting

    • @paulsansonetti7410
      @paulsansonetti7410 Pƙed 2 dny

      ​@@AverageAlien
      Yeah 3 whistleblowers turning up dead ,but let's still give the war criminals and baby killers an incredible benefit of the doubt
      You sound like a moral cripple
      GFU
      Repeatedly
      Infinitum

  • @morgancorl1508
    @morgancorl1508 Pƙed 28 dny +192

    I never can get over “ muscle mommy big foot” it’s my favorite thing

  • @kooriicolada
    @kooriicolada Pƙed 28 dny +290

    The thing about the heart attack is so true. My dad just thought he'd thrown his back out or something, went to the chiropractor and she checked his blood pressure and told him "you need to get to the hospital". Turns out he was having a heart attack.

    • @AshesAshes44
      @AshesAshes44 Pƙed 28 dny +25

      My mom thought her ulcer was acting up and just rested a few minutes before going back to work.
      The second heart attack was really bad and we got her to the hospital. She was okay in less time than you'd expect and lived a good two decades longer

    • @KatieTirrell
      @KatieTirrell Pƙed 28 dny +21

      My dad thought he had a stomach bug. He had a heart attack and we didn’t find out till like 2 months later. Hes fine now but yeah heart attacks can be sneaky

    • @SjofnBM1989
      @SjofnBM1989 Pƙed 28 dny +21

      My Aunt didn't even know she had a heart attack until after it was over.
      She went to the doctor for a scheduled ECG for something else and the doctor was like "I don't see your recent heart attack in your chart what hospital did you go to?"
      And she was like "hmmm pardon? What heart attack?"

    • @KatieTirrell
      @KatieTirrell Pƙed 28 dny +14

      @@SjofnBM1989 that’s pretty much what happened to my dad. Saw his cardiologist for a regular appointment and sure enough it was not a stomach flu back in December

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Pƙed 27 dny +7

      @@KatieTirrell yeah, my grandfather had several heart attacks. The first was a minor inconvenience but made him feel very unwell for a day.

  • @theriveroftruth
    @theriveroftruth Pƙed 28 dny +280

    “pew-ALL-up” is the pronunciation i hear the most for Puyallup. i had never seen that word until i moved up here and constantly needed correction on it lmfao. same thing with Seqium actually being pronounced “squim”

    • @wimpy360
      @wimpy360 Pƙed 28 dny +31

      You're correct. Lived here my entire life, not too far from Puyallup actually. He does correct himself, as in an earlier video he did pronounce Sequim as it's spelled, but a later video he pronounced it correctly (Squim). It's nice to see that he tries.

    • @angelatait270
      @angelatait270 Pƙed 28 dny +14

      Some people say “poo- y’all- up” and it drives me up a wall and they’re alleged “locals”

    • @GraceStone-st9tc
      @GraceStone-st9tc Pƙed 28 dny +6

      came to comment this lol

    • @carlpage9259
      @carlpage9259 Pƙed 28 dny +3

      Ditto 😂

    • @m1k0h
      @m1k0h Pƙed 28 dny +6

      I could always tell someone wasn’t from Washington when they tried to pronounce it, or especially my hometown Steilacoom.

  • @CambrianAquarium
    @CambrianAquarium Pƙed 29 dny +367

    I can't give the video my full attention until later tonight so I'm just going to play this in the background to help yall with the algorithm.

  • @SavannahWilliams-yu5on
    @SavannahWilliams-yu5on Pƙed 28 dny +100

    Pleeeeaaase don’t ever stop doing the history segment! I ADORE the lore, but it means more with the yore.

  • @jmartens759
    @jmartens759 Pƙed 29 dny +111

    It's pronounced "Pew all up".
    Also, the mossy old man story sounds like it's describing a Lahar caused by an eruption

  • @scarling9367
    @scarling9367 Pƙed 28 dny +28

    As an EMT, cardiovascular issues can be sudden and have weird presentation. Both of my mother's heart attacks presented like the flu. I've seen folks complain about back pain, anxiety, or just headaches - it's not just referred pain in the arm like many think.

  • @johnosullivan1480
    @johnosullivan1480 Pƙed 28 dny +96

    The Native American History and Mythology/Folklore is some of my favorite stuff you do. I’ve never heard so much on these subjects. It’s fascinating. Your presentation of the material is not only easily digested but is also delightfully delicious.

  • @thebarbecube317
    @thebarbecube317 Pƙed 28 dny +67

    24:18 being an Eagle Scout isn’t enough to assume he’s well trained in wilderness survival. I’m an Eagle Scout and I’m a very novice camper. Wouldn’t consider myself a wilderness survivalist at all

    • @PopeOf420
      @PopeOf420 Pƙed 28 dny +3

      Ayyyy I am an Eagle Scout as well

    • @thomasmorgan9768
      @thomasmorgan9768 Pƙed 28 dny +12

      Eagle here too! But honestly I think it depends on your region, district, and troop.

    • @thebarbecube317
      @thebarbecube317 Pƙed 28 dny +12

      @@thomasmorgan9768 yeah but like that’s what I’m saying it turns into an “it depends.” It’s not a huge point either way I just wanted to clarify that not all Eagle Scouts are wilderness survivalist types lol

    • @PopeOf420
      @PopeOf420 Pƙed 27 dny +4

      I definitely was trained to be lol but then again I'm from Utah'rdia so it kinda comes with the territory

    • @jamesknapp64
      @jamesknapp64 Pƙed 24 dny +8

      As a fellow Eagle Scout who taught Wilderness Surval Merit Badge at Boy Scout Camp. The vast majority of Eagle Scouts are horrible at Wilderness survival in my experience

  • @justinmulcahy7470
    @justinmulcahy7470 Pƙed 28 dny +50

    I live near the bottom of Mt Rainier in Ashford. My family has lived here since the 80s. It's a scenic and beautiful area, and depending on who you ask up here you get one of three awnsers: People who have legit seen things, people spinning a yarn just because it's funny to them, and people who look at you like a you ate one too many questionable fungi. My aunts have stories, my mom has stories, my granddad has stories although he will never explain a thing. This place truly is different.

    • @SquiddyInvicta
      @SquiddyInvicta Pƙed 24 dny +1

      We have bears, cougars, deer, elk and lots of other large wildlife. Ive been camping and hunting these woods since I was 5 and I don’t think we have anything supernatural. There is just a special feeling of vulnerability in our woods because of how thick they are, yet I imagine that feeling persists in like areas worldwide.

  • @lignjahal
    @lignjahal Pƙed 28 dny +63

    The mountain looms large over the entire area and you can only get 1/3 up the mountain by car.
    I actually know about someone who vanished without a trace from a facility at the base of Mt. Rainier. It’s a massive area and not being able to find people there isn’t surprising. While there might not be a cluster for 411 there, it’s still a place with sorrowful mysteries.

    • @mattjack3983
      @mattjack3983 Pƙed 28 dny +9

      You are definitely right about that. Anyone who has ever been to Rainier would easily be able to understand how someone could go missing there. I personally believe that he had some kind of accident which prompted to him to unhook himself from his rope to head back down the mountain, and on the way he became incapacitated and was covered by snow. Regardless of what exactly happened, and what it was that lead to him unhooking himself from the rope, I'm almost certain that no one could find him because he fell in a crevasse and/or got covered in snow.

    • @BUBBLESPOGO
      @BUBBLESPOGO Pƙed 26 dny +1

      Maybe he had to take an urgent dump......just saying, then fell

  • @emexdizzy
    @emexdizzy Pƙed 28 dny +46

    You apologize too much for the history segments. They're good. A big reason I stuck around and subbed. If you like 'em, keep doing them, because it can't just be me enjoying them.

    • @thedrinkinggames9573
      @thedrinkinggames9573 Pƙed 25 dny +1

      Same. History is my jam, and I love that it's not just "American" history, but also history of the people who lived there. Not many people include that and it's great.

  • @agiovanna7605
    @agiovanna7605 Pƙed 28 dny +103

    As a future historian myself I have to say I absolutely love that the history sections are a thing! Having that additional context is just so neat. Also as a European it's extra cool that the sections mostly cover Native American history because it's not a topic that comes up often in my own studies!

    • @cojanemanuel8319
      @cojanemanuel8319 Pƙed 28 dny +6

      That's my favourite part of the video because I know most of the missing 411 cases but I don't know native american history at all

    • @Trickaz94
      @Trickaz94 Pƙed 27 dny

      Don't take anything from him as fact, he is a religious guy from America, those people don't tell you the actual historic facts, they just feed you religious propaganda

    • @fattdamon1980
      @fattdamon1980 Pƙed 26 dny +3

      if you guys like native American/early us history you should check out "wild west extravaganza" and "history at the ok corral". WWE is my favorite and he has a sense of humor I appreciate but isn't for everyone and ok corral is more serious. Both are incredibly interesting though.

    • @reefsroost696
      @reefsroost696 Pƙed 25 dny +3

      ​@@fattdamon1980
      Thanks for the info.

    • @fattdamon1980
      @fattdamon1980 Pƙed 25 dny +3

      @@reefsroost696 you're welcome. They're great channels but underrated. CZcams doesn't push stuff that's educational or interesting like that enough, it's all drake vs Kendrick and reaction channels.

  • @lunaoak6741
    @lunaoak6741 Pƙed 28 dny +69

    I like the history section! It’s actually my favorite part

  • @ConfidentCupcake
    @ConfidentCupcake Pƙed 28 dny +118

    As a german I can approve what you said. Most of the time if you want to pay you just raise your hand to a waiter/waitress and ask them:
    1. Entschuldung. Kann ich bezahlen.
    2. Zahlen, bitte.
    Or 3. Ich wĂŒrde gerne bezahlen.
    Which means:
    1. Excuse me, can I pay.
    2. Pay(check), please.
    3. I would like to pay.

    • @derekmcmanus8615
      @derekmcmanus8615 Pƙed 28 dny +4

      Just don't mention the war

    • @matthewdevalle404
      @matthewdevalle404 Pƙed 28 dny

      @@derekmcmanus8615 I did once, but I think I got away with it.

    • @e.b.squared
      @e.b.squared Pƙed 27 dny +5

      I spent over a year in Norway and it’s cool how similar so many words are between Norway/Sweden/Denmark, German, French, and English. The word for “pay” in German (bezahlen) is similar to “pay” (betale) in Norwegian. I just find it interesting and intriguing.
      Then I went to Finland and threw all my knowledge of language out the window 😂

    • @daRiddler32
      @daRiddler32 Pƙed 27 dny +2

      ​@e.b.squared Norway and Denmark were constantly taking over Germany, Germany took over Britain in the 1600s so much so that King George I only spoke German.
      Finnish is very close to Old Scandinavian (how the pagan Vikings would have spoken)

    • @derekmcmanus8615
      @derekmcmanus8615 Pƙed 27 dny +1

      @@e.b.squared 'gift' words are an amazing facet of modern language

  • @benjamingentry2866
    @benjamingentry2866 Pƙed 28 dny +14

    I think most of the disappearances have to do with glaciers. In many Alaskan tribes' legends, glaciers are living things that have been rumored to literally swallow people whole. Since glaciers can move up to five feet an hour, a shifting glacier could easily have "swallowed" a person and, while it moved, closed the crevasse they fell into. This is a plausible explanation. On that note, "If you hear hoofbeats, it's probably a horse, not a zebra," seems relevant. This saying means that, even though there are unreasonable explanations, the most likely explanation is usually the correct one...until you rule out the "horse."

  • @AmandaW1169
    @AmandaW1169 Pƙed 28 dny +42

    I absolutely love your channel!! The way you tell the story, quick intro, your cadence , your intelligence and the way you deep dive actual facts and most of all your humor. It's my favorite!! Thank you for all of it.

  • @heyitsfranklynn168
    @heyitsfranklynn168 Pƙed 28 dny +25

    I'll say this- I've spent my entire life hanging out on Mt Rainier and tacoma. With friends and alone. But never off the beaten path. I've done a TINY amount of exploring a few times, and it is shocking how fast you're completely lost. It never really scared me but I always knew how insane of a risk that would be. I totally understand how people could disappear or how there could be feral people there.
    Also- PEW- like church pew, AL- pronounced like Alfred, UP- Like the opposite of down. Some people say pew-all-up

    • @gnmidnight1191
      @gnmidnight1191 Pƙed 23 dny

      All and al from Alfred are different sounds so this part at least is not helpful

    • @melanie_meanders
      @melanie_meanders Pƙed 8 dny

      @@gnmidnight1191they’re saying some people say it that way, so its said both ways.

  • @GKNW
    @GKNW Pƙed 28 dny +40

    The Pacific Northwest is an amazingly weird place. More content about it please!

    • @emexdizzy
      @emexdizzy Pƙed 28 dny +3

      Grew up here, can agree, it's definitely amazing and weird. One of my fave bits of local folklore is about the Douglas firs that are the ubiquitous mainstays of the temperate rainforests here and why their cones look the way they do with trident bracts projecting from between the scales. Story goes there was a forest fire and the mice could not outrun the flames so they cried out to the trees "oh great firs, please shelter us!" and the firs agreed and opened up their cones for the mice to hide in, and that's why to this day there's little bracts sticking out that look like a mouse's butt with the tail and hindlegs as they jumped inside to hide.

    • @emexdizzy
      @emexdizzy Pƙed 28 dny +2

      All, try the salmonberries, they won't hurt you, just try them, I promise, no, I'm not gonna tell you what it tastes like before you do, just try the things. First time tasting face is hilarious, the confusion that "raspberry but it's orange" doesn't taste like you expect is fucking hilarious.

  • @jennieB1973
    @jennieB1973 Pƙed 28 dny +21

    I love the history segments so please don’t stop making them! All your shows are so well done. I love this channel!!!!

  • @thisismaribethe
    @thisismaribethe Pƙed 22 dny +3

    Idk who has been in your ear, but the fact that I’m going to get a history lesson that usually has little to do with the case
is actually why I enjoy your channel! I always learn new things!

  • @VocalHero86
    @VocalHero86 Pƙed 28 dny +56

    @TheLoreLodge Puyallup is pronounced "Pew-AL-up," with the emphasis on "AL" and with "AL" being pronounced like "Al Sharpton" ... Dont ask me why i chose his name specifically to explain it, your guess is as good as mine lmao. And thank you for doing a video about M411 in my hometown-ish! Reppin Tacoma 253 baybee :D

    • @HelloByeLetsNot
      @HelloByeLetsNot Pƙed 28 dny +3

      I paused and had to tell my wife how he was saying it. 360 reppin. 😂

    • @christianlowman2698
      @christianlowman2698 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      206

    • @willisverynice
      @willisverynice Pƙed 28 dny +2

      That’s funny, I’m from Seattle and I had no idea he was even trying to pronounce puyallup lol

    • @FranklyRanunculus
      @FranklyRanunculus Pƙed 6 dny +1

      Gotta disagree. It's pew-AWL-up!

    • @VocalHero86
      @VocalHero86 Pƙed 9 hodinami

      ​@@FranklyRanunculushonestly I was thinking of editing that pronunciation as a 2nd version because for me personally the way I pronounce it depends entirely on the sentence I'm using it in, but they're so similar I figured 'meh.'

  • @Coridimus
    @Coridimus Pƙed 28 dny +13

    The history sections are a big part of what sets your work heads-and-shoulders above that of similar channels, sir. Please keep doing them!

  • @andrewkelley9405
    @andrewkelley9405 Pƙed 28 dny +26

    *but why was your German teacher banned from Poland???*

  • @Whiterhabber
    @Whiterhabber Pƙed 29 dny +44

    This is going on the big tv 😎

  • @MRxtremLEE99
    @MRxtremLEE99 Pƙed 28 dny +27

    I'm hiking Rainer in late July, so I'm a bit spooked that this video just so happened to come out now haha

    • @KineticCollision
      @KineticCollision Pƙed 28 dny +3

      rest in peace :)

    • @justadildeau
      @justadildeau Pƙed 28 dny +4

      Bring peanut butter for the samsquanch

    • @mambisa2690
      @mambisa2690 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Bruh
don’t do it

    • @NanaBren
      @NanaBren Pƙed 25 dny

      Safer to be in a group. Be alert and aware. The terrain is apparently tricky.

    • @Lunch_Meat
      @Lunch_Meat Pƙed 23 dny

      Be fair, you are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the park than you are to die on the mountain.

  • @coltrueg
    @coltrueg Pƙed 28 dny +24

    Puyallup is pronounced
    Pew-al-up by locals.

  • @brucegriffin1153
    @brucegriffin1153 Pƙed 28 dny +7

    He got banned from Poland for asking for his bill so aggressively

  • @ancientmingyu0604
    @ancientmingyu0604 Pƙed 15 dny +2

    Dear Aiden,
    as a German I was thoroughly amused by your German. You did a great job, thanks for having an interest in my mother tongue!
    It really warms my heart to see people enjoying or liking the language I grew up speaking.
    Great video, love your channel!
    Much love from Germany!

  • @SpaceCaptnFace
    @SpaceCaptnFace Pƙed 28 dny +24

    Mountaineer Ed Viesturs goes in depth with HAPE and HACE incidents on Ranier. He personally witnessed people falling off it due to bad decisions and has been involved in numerous rescues and was a guide up there for years.
    Side note... Prior to heading to Alaska, some good Mt Denali reading is Denalis Howl. About a climbing disaster caused by crazy ass weather.

  • @Kensbev
    @Kensbev Pƙed 29 dny +19

    If we sign up for the trip, can you guarantee that there will be Sasquatches?

    • @Kensbev
      @Kensbev Pƙed 29 dny +5

      Or is the the plural of Sasquatch simply Sasquatch, like the word moose? Hmmm...

    • @3TurdsInATrenchcoat
      @3TurdsInATrenchcoat Pƙed 29 dny

      ​@@Kensbev I believe it sasqueetch like geese

    • @ryankrelic971
      @ryankrelic971 Pƙed 28 dny

      Best they can do is big hairy men.

    • @anitaevans5361
      @anitaevans5361 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Like regular stalkers, u will not know of being stalked by a sasquatch 99% of the time so it's safe 2 say that they r definitely closer, more often than realized đŸ‘ŁđŸŸ

  • @sharonwhiteley6510
    @sharonwhiteley6510 Pƙed 28 dny +25

    Never stop including the history portion

  • @thefisherking78
    @thefisherking78 Pƙed 19 dny +2

    Prominence is real. I will remember till the day I die the first time I saw Rainier. I was on a train from Portland to start college in Seattle in 1996 and we came around a bend.. and my jaw literally dropped. That peak is like nothing I've ever seen. To this day, every time I'm near it, I look for it.

    • @nmxsanchez
      @nmxsanchez Pƙed 12 dny +2

      Similar experience coming from Phoenix last week to live here in Bellevue. What an incredible mountain, like nothing I've seen in Arizona. Only thing that compares in awe inspiring, jaw dropping beauty is the grand canyon in my opinion. Just a stunningly beautiful state.

  • @michaeljohnston6856
    @michaeljohnston6856 Pƙed 28 dny +8

    i like the history section. thanks for the dedication to accuracy

  • @Jyiber
    @Jyiber Pƙed 25 dny +3

    There's a phenomenon known around Rainier called Lahar where when the mountain kicks up volcanic activity all the ice and snow flash melts and all the surrounding valleys are in danger of having 10-30ft wall of water, mud, and picked up trees pass through them.
    Also, Pyuallup is pronounced Pew-all-up.

  • @Joseph-sv2hk
    @Joseph-sv2hk Pƙed 28 dny +9

    The history lessons are my favorite part! Please keep it up

  • @benjaminwingert434
    @benjaminwingert434 Pƙed 28 dny +8

    I love the historical segments you do at the start some of the most interesting parts of the videos for me please dont stop 😅

  • @AnarchyIsLove
    @AnarchyIsLove Pƙed 28 dny +3

    I love the history sections, even if the history ends up unrelated to the main story. Is somethin that got me hooked on this channel

  • @dangerxbadger2300
    @dangerxbadger2300 Pƙed 29 dny +21

    Of course you plug the Alaska trip right as I get a new job and can't take any time off for the next 6 months. Damn you aiden! I hope that this trip goes well and this becomes either an annual or multi-time per year kind of thing that continues! Basically, I hope this isn't a one-and-done kind of opportunity because that would make me a very sad panda

  • @Enzar17
    @Enzar17 Pƙed 23 dny +3

    Heart attacks are quite insidious. My roommate died of a heart attack two years ago, from a heart condition that he didn't know about. He made no noise when it happened. Our other roommate was 10 feet away, in his room. Heard nothing. Was awful :(

  • @kruksog
    @kruksog Pƙed 28 dny +4

    Cool to see two young guys doing such good work. Really impressive. I love the historical/ native histories. Never stop.
    Cheers and thank you.

  • @evergone7737
    @evergone7737 Pƙed 27 dny +1

    your channel combines my two greatest interests: anthropological history and “supernatural” disappearances. please never remove the history segments, they’re probably my favorite part. i would watch a channel of you guys just doing history!

  • @Ryo7_7
    @Ryo7_7 Pƙed 28 dny +8

    There are many native tribes that have a similar flood story in their passed. Some of the Spanish priests have noted this fact when spreading the gospel to some tribes in North and Middle America.

  • @pradnyachoukekar
    @pradnyachoukekar Pƙed 28 dny +5

    11:50 the flood myth is a common feature among multiple cultures around the world because a massive flood did happen towards the end of the ice age around 12,000 years ago.

    • @michaelross1452
      @michaelross1452 Pƙed 28 dny +3

      It's specifically called the Younger-Dryas event.
      Ice core samples from 12k to 13k years ago show lots of temperature changes happening. A celestial body impact(asteroid or broken up comet) happening is becoming less of conjecture and more of a working hypothesis.
      But it's still a work in progress. So more info will be coming as its studied on by mainstream science.

    • @kcairns1
      @kcairns1 Pƙed 26 dny

      This

  • @EricThompsonClimber
    @EricThompsonClimber Pƙed 28 dny +8

    I've climbed with JR Storms as have many other good climbers in the PNW. Storms is a good man and solid. He told me about this incident when we climbed. He and the missing guy had different ideas on which way to go back to camp. Camp was due east only 400 meters or so but between tham and camp was a steep and dangerous gully with deep crevasses. Storms wanted to climb above the feature and the missing guy wanted to cross it. Storms is very fit and keeping up with him is hard. The guy unhooked himself and tried his own way and fell into a feature. End of story. Mt Rainier is no safe place for anyone, even very experienced climbers die there. If you go up as a rank amateur, unguided and wonder out on snow your odds are frankly bad. If you need beta on Washington State cases get at me.

  • @davidmartinstowe6842
    @davidmartinstowe6842 Pƙed 28 dny +5

    At first I didn't like the History part but now I realize that's what makes this channel so special.

    • @scarling9367
      @scarling9367 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Right, there's only so many times I can hear the same story told. At least he's got a history niche with some eccentric banter.

  • @comhaltacht315
    @comhaltacht315 Pƙed 28 dny +13

    8:00 I was born here in Washington and I can confirm Puyallup is pronounced “Pyoo-al-up” I have no idea why it’s spelled that way. Also Yakima is “Yakim-aw” not “Yakim-uh”

    • @candicehiles729
      @candicehiles729 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      One of my best friends has lived in Yakima all her life and says the second way

    • @comhaltacht315
      @comhaltacht315 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      @@candicehiles729 that’s not your friend, that’s a skinwalker

    • @candicehiles729
      @candicehiles729 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      @@comhaltacht315 very well could be. She shares my birthday

  • @elfangel94
    @elfangel94 Pƙed 27 dny +2

    i find the idea of a tribe of wild people much more interesting and terrifying than big monke

  • @dylanwesley462
    @dylanwesley462 Pƙed 28 dny +24

    I will pound the table for this until the day i die. You are better than Paulides. You have this uncanny gift for mysterious tragedies that nobody on any platform has. This premiere Lore Lodge content. Please keep these coming! The side quests are great, but every Friday ive been praying for the bread and butter. BOOOOOMMMM. I live in Reading PA. Im 25 minutes away from you! Do it for the mother land!!!

    • @coderexe30
      @coderexe30 Pƙed 25 dny +2

      I don't believe Paulides is ill-intentioned, I just think he's gotten away with more or less 'lazy' reporting for years. Now that the 411 phenomenon has gotten the attention of hard-working, deep-digging content producers, he's getting shown up, and details he either missed or left out are getting found.

    • @dylanwesley462
      @dylanwesley462 Pƙed 24 dny

      @coderexe30 I think he's just gone to far down the rabbit hole. I'm a believer. I believe in UFOs, Bigfoot, and the paranormal. But not everything is paranormal. He conviently leaves out information that would lend credibility to a plausible explanation to make everything paranormal. UFOs and Bigfoot have been in texts and cultures since the dawn of time really. So it's not far fetched to be a believer. Paulides just cares more about everything being his work so he makes all the money from it than he does actually solving the cases and the people involved. He's the most selfish guy I support. And his CZcams channel reflects it.

  • @NicknotNak
    @NicknotNak Pƙed 28 dny +12

    39:39 Halq'eméylem (anglicised to Halkomelem) is pronounced halk-uh-MAY-lum. Otherwise, I always love the history sections, and I'm glad to hear about the Coast Salish people finally! I love to hear about the legends I grew up learning online for others to learn about.

  • @matthewpocock4824
    @matthewpocock4824 Pƙed 28 dny +8

    History is fascinating and extremely important in understanding the present. I consider them as bonus content, even as an Australian.

  • @gtRELIC
    @gtRELIC Pƙed 28 dny +2

    Came here from Wendigoon. Love stuff like this and I think I’m really gonna enjoy your channel 😃

  • @GoddessofWisdom
    @GoddessofWisdom Pƙed 25 dny +1

    2:33 Idk if people give you shit for the history segment or what, but PLEASE don't stop doing them - I love them, love the bulk they add to the video and the context they add to the story!!

  • @joncornell8880
    @joncornell8880 Pƙed 29 dny +8

    Just asking again.... when are you gonna look into the possible serial killer in Austin TX? Love your channel bud.

    • @JorgensenTheCrow
      @JorgensenTheCrow Pƙed 28 dny

      yeah thatd be good , especially with the recent one with that guy from boston.

  • @themythhunter9764
    @themythhunter9764 Pƙed 28 dny +4

    I love the history segment! It's not too long! I like the longer episodes!

  • @LordVex47
    @LordVex47 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    Always do native history segment. I love it so much! Thank you

  • @iounno
    @iounno Pƙed 10 dny +1

    Hey Aidan, longtime fan and local to this region. I see others have commented on pronunciation but I wanted to clear up some confusion I think you may have had, but correct me if I’m mistaken.
    The Vancouver being spoken about is actually Vancouver, WA which was settled before Vancouver, B.C. and is to the south of Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helen’s. It was called Fort Vancouver and was the headquarters of the Hudson Bay Company for the region.
    The Chehalis reservation is also not in B.C., but north of Vancouver and directly west of Mt. Rainier. Locals often make the drive here for 4th of July fireworks.
    Love the video as always and especially the Native history.

  • @cynthiagibson6793
    @cynthiagibson6793 Pƙed 28 dny +5

    I love historical segment

  • @hobosarepeopletoo
    @hobosarepeopletoo Pƙed 28 dny +3

    I had a coworker who had a heart attack for two days before she went to the doctor. She just thought she was sick

    • @Aileil
      @Aileil Pƙed 27 dny

      Oh, geez, that must've been rough. :(

  • @Mark-nh2hs
    @Mark-nh2hs Pƙed 27 dny +1

    Being from the UK I find the history sections fascinating as we are not taught indigenous American history. Love these sections.

  • @benniebarnett9944
    @benniebarnett9944 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    I bought a house 40
    Miles from Mt. Rianer. I wake up and see the mountain every day. It’s beauty and its mystery.

  • @victormanuelleyva
    @victormanuelleyva Pƙed 28 dny +3

    Love the history, please keep that in future videos

  • @mreverythingmagnum
    @mreverythingmagnum Pƙed 28 dny +3

    This is the content that brought me here! The Riley Gaines videos were great too!

  • @SusanRN
    @SusanRN Pƙed 28 dny +2

    Aiden, I love your history teachings! I never skip them! I've learned more about history watching you than I ever did in school. I'm a girl, we're not normally history people lol. BUT your history is very interesting so thank you!

  • @cynthiabeck1563
    @cynthiabeck1563 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    Ok Aiden, I live in Northwesr Washington state. An hours drive from the Mt Baker National forest. There is a Hotspot for "sounds, sightings and activity " possible Bigfoot. We have been up there made calls, tree knocks and left gifts. I'm for real and there is quite a lot of activity. You should come over to Washington, you may change ur position.

  • @matthewpiggott767
    @matthewpiggott767 Pƙed 28 dny +3

    Personally I always really enjoy the history sections of the videos 👍

  • @carolinedunlap1359
    @carolinedunlap1359 Pƙed 28 dny +3

    Ayyyyy Washington mentioned! We love our mountain (when it decides to show itself lol)

    • @nmxsanchez
      @nmxsanchez Pƙed 12 dny

      I just moved here from Scottsdale last week. It's just so beautiful here. Feels surreal coming from living my entire adult life in the Phoenix metro area. I've fallen in love already and can't wait to spend the next few years checking off my list of places to explore here. What an awesome place!

  • @angelakozell5939
    @angelakozell5939 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    You are amazing and brilliant. Please keep teaching and building a love of history. I truly value your content and I am very happy you are here. ❀

  • @ichangedmynameforyoutube
    @ichangedmynameforyoutube Pƙed 28 dny +1

    FTR: I’m not watching this video because I’m more interested in the 411 cases than your other videos. It just popped up and I happen to be in the mood for it. You’re videos are all great! Life and mood just get in the way. ❀❀❀❀❀

  • @shirakisilver
    @shirakisilver Pƙed 29 dny +4

    I personally love the history segments đŸ„°

  • @packman8452
    @packman8452 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    I’m so glad I found your content keep up the amazing work!!

  • @Jane_8319
    @Jane_8319 Pƙed 27 dny +1

    My friend is coming down from Rainier where he works to celebrate my 21st birthday with me today. Thank you for the fitting (if morbid) video Lore Lodge!

  • @BiblicallyAccurateAngel.
    @BiblicallyAccurateAngel. Pƙed 28 dny +3

    I love the history sections

  • @FoundingChambers
    @FoundingChambers Pƙed 28 dny +4

    From Washington. The mountain is such a beautiful and ominous site on my morning drives to work. I LOVE the history segments btw. I live in olympia and im surrounded by local Tribes/reservations and didn't know much about the history besides a few minor points I was taught in school.
    Edit: Also how we all hear and say it is phonetically pew-al-up. But that could be how us Colonizers say it 😅

  • @sledgerivera3298
    @sledgerivera3298 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    I haven’t seen the video yet but I’m so glad I ran into your channel last year! Great content! Keep it up bro

  • @angelaprzeszlowski536
    @angelaprzeszlowski536 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    I have been living close to Tacoma for a few years and really enjoyed the history lesson. I never skip the history lesson at the beginning because I find them equally as interesting as the second part of the video. You always make it easy for me to understand and follow. Thank you.

  • @k-xh3fj
    @k-xh3fj Pƙed 28 dny +6

    Just wanted to let you know that I enjoy the history segments of ur videos

  • @Casual_Goof
    @Casual_Goof Pƙed 28 dny +8

    I must follow the instructions, ahem:
    BIGFOOT MUSCLE MOMMY!!

  • @silverhalo14
    @silverhalo14 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    once again dropping in to say I love and appreciate the history section

  • @shep6471
    @shep6471 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Omg, little Marcela must've been so brave... đŸ„ș
    Immediately going to start binging this channel! I love the format of these videos, the volume, and the way information is presented. Easy to follow, and I completely lost track of time watching.

  • @therealturtleton
    @therealturtleton Pƙed 28 dny +5

    I never miss the history segments ever

  • @Heartland.Productions
    @Heartland.Productions Pƙed 29 dny +9

    Time for my weekly dose of Loreussy

  • @sebbybuckley9000
    @sebbybuckley9000 Pƙed 23 dny

    Been trying to find something new to watch on CZcams because I finished watching all of Wendigoon’s vids. So glad I found this channel because it’s amazing!!!!! Your content is so interesting and I’m obsessed now.

  • @Black_Heart_Defense
    @Black_Heart_Defense Pƙed 28 dny +1

    The boy is getting so good at transitioning into the ad reads. So proud of you!

  • @salask17
    @salask17 Pƙed 28 dny +10

    I'd like to request you guys look into the disappearance (and death) of David Gonzalez from Big Bear, CA in the summer of 2004. I believe it has all the markings of a 411 case even though it was deemed a freak accident and thus closed by local law enforcement.

    • @deerichardz
      @deerichardz Pƙed 28 dny

      The 'markings' od a '411' case??? The '411' is bunk buddy.

  • @Nicegirl10722AJ
    @Nicegirl10722AJ Pƙed 29 dny +5

    Im sooo hype

  • @cheyannebrown4321
    @cheyannebrown4321 Pƙed 25 dny

    Thanks for the quality episode guys!

  • @texas-rat-queen
    @texas-rat-queen Pƙed 24 dny +1

    I don't know who is complaining about the History section, but that is honestly my favorite part of your videos. You do such an amazing job at describing the rich history of the area. I find that the history section always has a lot to do with the lore/story discussed in the video. I appreciate you continuing to do these sections despite some people complaining. Keep up the good work. F*** Penn State

  • @cappadocius9379
    @cappadocius9379 Pƙed 28 dny +4

    I have been saying this for years on David Paulides and his research. I am glad he is bringing stuff to peoples attention but he purposely leaves out information to make it for his criteria better. The crazy thing is he doesn't need to do this. Some of these are truly bizarre already.

    • @deerichardz
      @deerichardz Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Any missing person case is 'bizarre' by itself. Pauides just embellishes them to garner the interest of the ill informed or gullible. The ONLY positive thing coming from him, is he does briefly talk about wilderness safety once in a blue moon. Besides that, he brings nothing to the table.

  • @wescals6849
    @wescals6849 Pƙed 25 dny +6

    Imagine dying a slow, lonely, and terrifying death. Only for some guy years later saying "bIgFoOt DiD iT". RIP to the souls claimed by the mountains and the forests.

    • @Hades-shadow
      @Hades-shadow Pƙed 20 dny +1

      Quite dramatic huh? It your time of the month

  • @onyxhades9513
    @onyxhades9513 Pƙed 25 dny

    Your videos are by far some of the best on CZcams! I love the history lessons and really appreciate the amount of hard work you put into your content!

  • @JacksWorldYT
    @JacksWorldYT Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Wow finally caught up after binging from the very first vid to now while at work, keep up the great work!

  • @owenjamieson4908
    @owenjamieson4908 Pƙed 26 dny +3

    I never get why Aidan has to preface his history segments with so much hesitation and pardoning, who in their right mind would skip the historical lesson in these videos? It gives all of the context and gives importance to the location

    • @tater82
      @tater82 Pƙed 25 dny +2

      I skip it. 🙈 I listened to a few and to me it doesn’t help with the story plus I find it boring. I also don’t find a lot of stuff interesting though.
      I don’t know why people would complain though, it’s easy to skip through, or up the speed. 😂

    • @owenjamieson4908
      @owenjamieson4908 Pƙed 25 dny +1

      ⁠@@tater82 yeah okay fair enough! I think the added context just makes the amount of possibilities increase, makes it more interesting.

  • @lavendersorcery
    @lavendersorcery Pƙed 28 dny +4

    Usually "in the time of [my] grandfather's grandmother" (and similar phrases) are equivalent to "once upon a time"! It signals that the story is a folktale.

  • @donttalktomebye
    @donttalktomebye Pƙed 28 dny

    excitedly been waiting for this today. I moved here about two years ago and been learning a lot about the Indigenous culture in the shadow of the beautiful Tahoma. Puyallup is pronounced "Pew-wall-up". I love your Indigenous history lessons in these, I've learned a lot about different tribes through your videos. Especially love seeing how they mash up. Theres a LOT of tribes here, some federally recognized some not.
    Also potlach ceremonies here traditionally and historically occur around what the US celebrates as thanksgiving. it was cool to learn some societies had a positive tradition during that time before we came along

  • @princessleiaorgana7238
    @princessleiaorgana7238 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    I enjoy the history parts! I think if people are getting upset with these it may be because they are so extensive! I appreciate all the hard work put into them.

  • @user-truecrimeaficionado90631

    You talk to fast to follow, sorry