Smash Ultimate Tournament Grand Finals - Juice (Zero Suit Samus) vs LeoN (Bowser) - CNB 173
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- This Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tournament match features Juice as Zero Suit Samus vs LeoN as Bowser. This Grand Finals match at Code Name B-Airs 172 was livestreamed on 2/1/19.
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The ending to that first game was crazy, an out of nowhere sudden kill at 28%
Root Veggie F smash reads are a thing of beauty
That's complete bullshit tbh
@@jasonlobo2350 it was actually a crazy read bc that would've been true into bair but he had the read. I was legit impressed but I'm biased as a Koopa player
@@thor10001 Yeha but the fact that it takes 3 hits to kill ZSS against a flurry of attacks from ZSS is ridiculous
@@raneanubis shouldnt have picked zss then?
LeoN, you're a hero to all bowser mains.
He sure is
All hail lord LeoN
Agreed!
Definitely
Not only is he becoming a personal role model to me as a Bowser main, he also reps my home state of New Jersey. That's a win/win for me, man.
This is why i fucking LOVE this game. There you have in a Grand final a ZSS wandering around like a headless chicken vs the mountain that is Bowser. I mean... praise sakurai and his team.
The fact you have finals with more than Bayonetta, Meta Knight or Fox truly means something.
He's not a mountain. Fire's comin' out of that. Bowser's a volcano with *teeth.*
As Bowser main, I'd feel so proud of LeoN if I wasn't busy cringing at the commentators.
Stefan Specht yeah that gatekeeping wimp on the right needs to chill lol. That almost completely distracted me from koopa boi
When it starts with "as a bowser main" you know its gonna be good. (I say that as a bowser main wich isnt a joke)
I also a Bowers main and watching Leon is awsome
Goddamn they were so annoying
As a Bowser main, i agree with you
I threw a tourney at my crib and Leon came. I didnt even know who he was, but he won and i don't think he dropped a game. Super nice kid, really humble.
He came up on $90 that day
Nice! Im guessing he played bowser lol?
I had class with him and never even knew he played crazy to be watching him win we were mad cool lol he's funny asf too
A Bowser main won a tournament! 😭 Let this victory be a rallying cry for super heavyweight and heavyweight mains everywhere!
The King reigns!!!
That's not that big a deal. ZSS is trash.
@@Ace22 According to whom?
icey778 yeah only making it to grand finals, totally unusable character amirite?
All he did was shield and side b as bowser 😐 wins a win though I guess
I don't understand the commentator's HP bar analogy he keeps bringing up as if Bowser's throw is the only thing that kills players with high percentages.
I think the commentator’s reasoning is that being at +120% against Bowser like being at 1hp in a traditional fighter; if your opponent hits you with something as quick or simple as jab...
(or in this case side-b, an unblockable move that comes out faster than jab that will kill at ~120% ANYWHERE on stage regardless of DI)
...you will be KO’d.
"Downpour of downairs" literally zero downairs in that sequence
I rewatched it in slow-mo to make sure i wasn't crazy. How do they pick commentators?
Yeah they also kept saying that zss killed bowser with her zair when it was her side b 😔
These casters be saying shit like "Every single attack..... Needs to connect because if you dont connect you'll miss"
Sean Meral People die when they are killed!
Sean Meral where’s the lie?!
Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right
Sean Meral the commenters were pretty residentsleeper. just focus on the gameplay of these grand finals instead of saying broad things to kind of sound like a caster lol
the casters also don't get it that the person with lower % controls the DI of bowser side-B
I'm new to smash, could you elaborate? All I know is DI means directional input, but I don't understand how another player controls someone's DI
@@Saotic when bowser grabs someone with his side B he jumps up and flips then body slams his opponent. During his ascend in the air you can push left or right to influence where he lands. The bowser player wants to body slam on a higher platform to kill earlier. So if the player that has been granted by bowser has a lower percentage he can store away from a higher platform to not be killed
Yoooo I know that bowser player he came to my homies crib cause we were having a tournament and he washed everyone lmaooo
Don't feel bad, this guy is the fuckin truth.
@@ssonicdeafmonkey they are easy to take on if you have projectile.
@@Masterahsoka hate to break it to you dude, but ZSS has a projectile, a zair, and a crazy long side-B
Nice
@@thor10001 is her projectile the slowest in game? Seems like 1 of the slowest if not the slowest
7:11 Juice took Bowser for a ride
Yeah holy shit that was crazy
Even as a bowser main.that was a beautifully performed combo
*I wanna take ya for a ride* plays softly in the background
*the rrrOCKET KICK*
This Bowser, the playstyle feels very unorthodox to me. But I like it a lot. Normally, the way I see Bowser being played is very actively with constant movement, relying on his newfound mobility to pick up momentum in the neutral. But we saw almost none of that here. The way LeoN played may not have been especially entertaining, but the strategy proved smart and the execution tight.
The amount of time LeoN spent in shield is striking, to put it lightly. His gameplan was totally reactive, waiting for Juice to take the offensive - and Juice was happy to oblige - while simply preying on small spacing mistake and overextensions, punishing mainly with aerials or side-B out of shield. His patience was great, sometimes too great to the point where he'd get shieldpoked for it, but it was ultimately rewarded. It seems Juice just could't figure out how to deal with Bowser's defense and LeoN's punished with amazing accuracy. He connected so many side-B's...
Laggalot101 Gotta play a bit more elusive and defensive as Bowser when Zero Suit Samus is your last obstacle.
It's the stereotypical online "spam side-b" bowser play style. But it worked.
Its cool because normally you can't grab out of grab if someone crosses you up but Bowser's side B lets him shield punish even crossups.@@stevenzhao3414
I mean this has always been the best way to play Bowser going back to Melee
I'm a Bowser main and I really think I have a lot to learn from watching Leon play
Very cool to see heavy weights actually being viable in SSBU
John Tade as the meta evolves, they’ll likely fall off more, but hopefully the patchiest keep them viable (please Sakurai)
Bowser and DK had some really strong showings in Smash 4. Dedede was really good in Brawl too. Snake was better and technically is a heavyweight too.
That caster needs to calm down about his love for juice.
Was just thinking that. Anything juice did, compliments how well juice did. Leon achieves something, they are like, well its bowser.
Efrain Lucas Jr well its a lot easier to press one button for your kill confirm however well timed that is than to perfectly string together 5 or six hits while accounting for DI and air dodges to get a stock.
Heavy vs Lightweight speedster is naturally gonna lend itself to the lightweight speedster being more glorified.
@@madisonking8057 i mean heavyweights take a lot of patience and strategy to play. also browser doesn't have easy kill confirms like he did in smash 4. although i do see why speedy characters can be more hype
@@efrainlucasjr6929 Its almost like those combos and strings had more merit than timing grabs. There is a lot of mechanical prowess to show off with ZSS, whereas Bowser is mostly a lackluster one trick pony with side airs and grabs. It was entertaining to watch Juice, while watching Bowser was akin to watching a dark souls boss. That doesn't mean that Leon wasn't good, it just means that he picked a boring character. Though, you are right about their bias, I understand their hype.
9:56 who else thought he was humming the king dedede theme
Casters were actual trash, gameplay was good though.
These guys have a juice fetish.
19:15
“this is my house, you’re just standing in it!”
lmao
3:29
That was awesome!!!
2:22 Bowser doesn't get his most of his kills from grabs. This guy doesn't know bowser. lol. But I don't blame him since the roster is huge.
Well if you're gonna commentate a game as diverse and as competitive as smash you need to know a large majority of the game and cast inside and out.
Bowser gets most of his kills from grapples and bairs
Your tripping. That's all bowser's kills. Grabs and forward smash. That's it. If you get caught by anything else your careless.
@@ajtrevino3663 LMFAO
Best Bowser move for killing is by far his fair, expecially off stage. Also well, literally 99% of his moveset become a kill move past 100%, this is not smash 4 lol.
@Aj Trevino
You’re forgetting about Up Tilt, Side Tilt, off-stage forward air, back air, down air, and grounded Up-B. Those are very reliable kill options.
Edit: Forgot about Up-Air.
What a combo at game 2, from single digit to a direct KO
Lmao what the hell was this drawn out tony hawk analogy? 🤦🏼♂️
Nostalgia
Bowser says: If you're still wondering why I call myself "The King of Awesome", just take a look at this video. Then you'll understand why.
commentator on the right seems to be severely struggling with finding his words and his ability to commentate correctly
xPaunx I would prefer if he would be quiet
Agreed
facts
Michael Raps I actually wanted to hear more from. Maybe he could do some jumping jacks?
Been looking for bowser tape and this is the best one! Glad this popped on my feed.
13:11 Is this a thing? Yeet Smash did you see this? The Bowser down air
A person challenged me to take a shot of Vodka everytime the casters said Juice.
I'm now on dialysis. ; ~;
you're also not funny
@@fart7505 You're right, he's hilarious!
Ive watched leon play in a few tournaments. I think hes the best bowser main currently who plays in tournaments.
These commentators were awful. Lmao. I started cheering for Leon because they were all for juice.
KevinS
What’s wrong with showing your bias for a player? It’s not like they’re downplaying the bowser or ignoring his good moves
@@user-sx4qu4dz9z Everything when youre a commentator. Nothing when you're a regular fan. A commentator should give neutral outlooks
@MLG Tactics Gaming Get me on the mic fam, I'll do twice as well, no sweat.
Because they believe zss is an underdog against, which is kinda true
That Zero Suit Samus was nutty with that second game win.
Is there a reason why Juice doesn't grab more often? LeoN was almost always blocking. Plenty of opportunities for grabs but almost none were taken, especially =against a heavyweight like bowser.
He just played around the defense horribly overall
I was wondering the same thing. LeoN was in his shield so often Juice could've grabbed him easily, especially with the tether grab ZSS has.
It was bad lack of adaptation but to be fair as far as I know ZSS gets basically nothing from grab and it's really slow if it whiffs
If Leon had dodged a grab attempt he could have ftilted or possibly even fsmashed.
The grab of tether-grab-type fighters come out terribly slowly. In high level gameplay where every frame matters, ZSS will rarely manage a grab from point blank against a shielding enemy
Lmao dafuq this commentator talking about w health bars and tony hawk needles
Game 1 finish a VERY good reminder for me how deadly that side smash is for the Koopa King
"you were talking at that Goooood shit a second ago, then you got kicked in yo chest"
Commentator bias is kind of annoying. Give Leon credit man.
They didn't give him as much credit because that matchup for zero suit is tough in ssbu. You have to play a perfect game while bowser has much more priority and kill power. Zero suit on the other hand dies easily, has small windows to kill, and is easy to punish.
Chris Bruschinsky well said
Chris Bruschinsky But bowser can barely land, is combo food and has a gimp able recovery.
Chris Bruschinsky wow cool a character has downsides! You right no character should ever have downsides!
Super nice punish heavy playstyle coming from LeoN. Really nice to see but was hoping to see more double jump FAIRs to challenge ZSS off stage after a successful side B launch. Falling off stage FAIRs would have been super nice as well as long as he is prepared to tech off the stage in case ZSS recovery hits him first.
Great fight right here. Loving the Zss
I don't watch tournaments very often so I was wondering if anyone knew why Juice didn't use the gun like ever? Maybe once or twice but I just don't get it?
issaciams he should’ve, but against a bowser, using the gun once and getting grabbed is not a good idea.
How fitting, the name of the tourney is Code Name B-Airs and a Bair was the finishing move of grand finals
I think these commentators really love Juice :3
That first game: Samus is at 43, that’s kill percent!
Alex Jones the mudkip
RIP
During final set talking about previous set? like terrible commentary
"bowser doesnt have to work as hard" what a joke.
asdrubal adalberto How is that a joke, it’s the truth. ZSS has fine tune combos that revolve around fast falls, and really crisp aerials. Bowser is just simply way easier to play and doesn’t have a high barrier to entry, that’s why there are a lot of bowser players. The character is very easy to play
@@rjw19 easy to play hard to master, because they're so simply the skillset needed to elevate their playstyle is higher.
@@rjw19 ZSS is just way safer.
Mr.PourTheMilkFirst The only difficult thing about Bowser is figuring out how to make him work in high level play, which requires a high understanding of the character.
But please don’t sit here and tell me Bowser is harder to play at a higher level than ZSS, because that’s just not true lol
@@rjw19 let me give you an example to make my point more clear. Bowser is like hotpocket, everyone knows how to microwave and heat it up. Zss is like a NY strip, harder to cook than a hotpocket. But which one is going to have an easier time being served to customers in a fancy restaurant?
Why didn’t LeoN side B off the stage when he was up a stock? Also why doesn’t he go all the way with the side B? Like at 10:43, does it launch further if you don’t jump all the way to the right?
Because its controlled by both people but its controlled more by whoever has less percent
Did not know this!
Did the commentator just say bowser gets all his kills from grab lol
What's the framerate on the recording? It seems rather low
Nairo would be proud watching this XD
I like the background behind the casters. Never seen a tournament do that.
1 HP! 1 HP! These fucking commentators holy shit
I want to be a bowser main like this, but I want to know the time he’s put into the game
Don't let your dreams be dreams! If you're having fun with the character you won't even know you're learning things about them.
The casters are so cringey
Leon finished Codename B-airs with a b-air. How fitting.
my god that first game, last stock, that did over 50%, they were at 28%
as a Bowser main, that was fucking nutty, even for a heavy
Bowser mains rise up!
That commentator has some feelings for juice lol
I love heavyweight characters in pretty much every game, but most especially with Smash
32 minutes of me screaming at the screen;
GrAB BoWsEr, DUCKING GRAB!
I have been away from the franchise for a long time so I was wondering if attempting grabs against shields was a bad choice for Juice
Am I missing something?
Bowser gets good reward from grabs at low hp, because they are one of his best ways to get consistent damage, but later on he has a better grab based option in side B, unless hes at the very end of the stage.
but.... but....
WHAT word would u use to describe THIS BOY?!
I like em big
Raise UP Heavy Players!
honestly think the ZSS just couldn't take a chill pill and didn't go for enough grabs. this also really shows that the Super heavies have a rough time getting there foot on the ground but once they do there a fucking wall of course on the flip side there also the some of the easiest to gimp off the stage. it was quite annoying that the casters treated the ZSS as the underdog that ZSS should have tried to carry to the left or right instead of killing off that top so much and tried to set up more edge guard situations that's bowsers main fault. why through a boulder up when you can just drop it off the cliff.
How are the stages set like that (ex: animal crossing) I only know of battlefield, normal and omega and it appears it looks like you have the normal but a non moving middle platform? I've also seen this for other stages that usually transition but however don't move when in other youtube videos of competitive SSBU.
Stage hazards off
Was there a Leon vs Mewtwoking bowser battle? Because I wanna watch one 😭
Bowser side smash kill percent is crazy
Does Leon stream on twitch??
what happened to juice? I haven't seen him play in any tournaments recently
Beast bowser. Very nice!
SHOWTIME!
These commentators want that mans Juice.... he finally couldnt handle it anymore at 26:21
Let's just keep worshipping this zss for any good plays but ignore the fact that someone is going good with a low tier super heavy who should be combo food. Zss should have an easy match up against bowser but these commentators seem to see her as the underdog.
They're probably worshipping ZSS because she had noticable nerfs.
Bowers isn't low tier at all. He's really good in this game and probably the best heavy. Most top players put him in mid or high tier.
@Rique Best heavy could be a toss up between DK and Bowser. Bowser's fair can kill really early off stage and is pretty safe to throw out. Plus Bowser has a much better vertical recovery than DK. Overall, Bowser's insane speed and weight sets him above the other heavies in my opinion. Calling him low mid or high low is pretty ridiculous.
Bro you are silly. Zss was washing him w combo hits the whole time. Weight was everything but hey, a wins a win
Bowser aint low tier fam
crowd went crazy
Can't wait to play the new smash bros!
I mean I know if this was the grand finals they are both pretty good players but why didn't Sexy Suit Samus GRAB? I kept seeing a lot of opportunities, and he'd just try to punch the shield only to get grabbed himself. Isn't there like a spike you can initiate with a side throw? I don't understand why he wouldn't use it
Commentators definitely rooting for juice
Boozer Cute: THE REVENGE
Why didn't Bowser dive of the stage when he was up one stock and got the grab at 11:55?
Feels like I'm missing something.
ZSS had lower damage, so she controlled the direction of the flip.
@@traviskoser883 so that's how it works, thx for the reply!
Is LeoN the Marth main from Brawl? If so that’s pretty cool to see a legend back
Nevermind
Don't fuck with the King!
Is there any reason Leon isn't side-Bing onto platforms for the kill around 100%? I was fairly certain it would kill compared to landing on mainstage, but he did it several times?
The player gettin grabbed cant slightly control the direction of impact
Can*
Yeah but Leon had less damage = more control
@@johnnyho4778 it could have simply been a misplay but I notice i have decent control even at high %, who knows tho haha
Also the more distance bowser drops with that move, the more damage he does with it
Definitely worst casters I've ever heard
4:00 cringe
Not to mention the skate talk mid way.
3:19-3:44
This is the most Sheik thing I have ever seen, and he's not even playing Sheik!
no chemistry between the commentators at all.
He is really good at bowser
Bowsers top tier
great sets
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. ZSS messed up a lot of opportunities by not taking advantage of a shielding browser. He choked. He was rolling around a shielding bowser 3 times and never grabbed!! Lol, I call that a choke artist
He doesn’t even use zss’s neutral B as much as he should
Zss moving like two times fast that must be exhuasting lol bowser camp and then release essentially.
Great game. Was fun seeing these two characters compete in the finals. The commentators were terrible. One of them said that bowser should grab a lot because that's how he puts on his damage. Someone should let him know this isn't smash 4. Bowser grapple combos are mediocre in ultimate
Wow, Juice needs to practice this MU asap.
one of mY mains won!
I always enjoy left caster with the fuller beard, guy on the right was a little annoying...
My god the commentators really didn't like Leon did they?
Samus thicc tho
lolheehee you spelt thick with 2 c's heeheelolbbq you're are cool teehee! yolo!
Agreed. She lookin gud. 😉👍
shes actually pretty slender idk what about zss u think qualifies as thicc
@@josephhuggins5394 breasts and ass. Thicc doesn't mean thick. We are not saying she is fat. We are saying she has a nice body.
7:13-7:22 by juice mmm
is that fucking sky williams
6:57 did bowser just grab in the air?
Yes, bowser can grab in the air. He's big pimpin like that.
Its a command grab, his Side-B, not the usual grab.
Harder than it looks but is so satisfying
BOWSER WINS!
Squeeze the ju-uice
Juice clearly played much better, Bowser’s stocks just count for more.
Nah. Bowser has plenty of disadvantages and ZSS is a better character. LeoN had the download and Juice got outplayed.