Cammus C5 Wheel & CP5 Pedals Review | THE CHEAPEST DIRECT DRIVE WHEEL!
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- Cammus have changed the game with their portable C5 direct drive wheel base and their compact CP5 pedals. Here is my review and honest thoughts.
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⏰ Timecodes ⏰
0:00 - Overview
02:57 - Unboxing | C5 Wheel
05:32 - Unboxing | Desktop Clamp
06:06 - Unboxing | CP5 Pedals
08:00 - Pedal Assembly
08:29 - Wheel Assembly
11:12 - Drivers & Software
12:53 - The Driving Experience
14:39 - Is this for you?
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This would be great for someone who travels alot
Completely agree. Weekend away with the gaming laptop. Keep up with the league 😅
I have it for few weeks now, drove around 9000 kilometers in Asseto corsa and getting faster every day. Im very happy with it, I did put a spring and elastomer behind break pedal and its great.
Very glad you are enjoying it Laco! I would be interested to know what spring and elastomer you have put behind the brake? Has it made a considerable difference for you?
I just used what I found ar home, rubber elastomer block from my kids toy chest and some old spring. Spring is maybe 50% harder to press than original, elastomer is like 80% more. I made wooden backstop screwed to pedal base. It makes a big difference. I have to press the brake hard to have 100% braking, if I press less it lightly im on 50%. I have never tried another pedals to compare it with , but compared to original it makes quite signifficant improvement. Now Im waiting for two bass shakers that should arrive next week.
This is really creative! I am impressed! Sounds like you solved the major issue with these. I would love to give what you made a go 😅
Hi, is it possible for you to post a video of the diy process? I believe many people with a tight budget would love to know how to improve the brake pedal for cheap! Thank you for the wonderful tips 🎉
Nice review. Loved your "lighting effect"
Well done!
Thank you Darren! Glad someone noticed 😅 That took me ages 🤣⚡️⛈️
I have just bought this setup.
This is going to replace the 2 wheels that I currently have (G27 and DFGT).
I will be looking into the LC100 down the line and a H pattern shifter.
Knowing the CP5 pedals have the same resitance is actually a bonus for me as I use a wheel for Elite Dangerous (the pedals control forward and reverse thrust).
Really looking forward to getting this.
Big plus for the price point too.
Very happy to hear this mate, you should enjoy it. I would advise upgrading those pedals though ASAP. You get almost zero feedback and the braking and accelerating feedback is pure guess work. Enjoy your purchase mate and let me know how you get on 💪🏻
Nice high quality review mate. The wheel rim being a tad bit bigger in diameter would probably make those shifter paddals feel more natural to the reach for my picky mitts personally as I grip this before, but $250 buckaroonies its a great situational wheel for sure ! thx for the great review
Thanks for the kind words Dan 🙏🏻 Really appreciate it. I agree, just a few adjustments would tidy things up and make it more comfortable. Going to be interesting to see where Cammus go from here 👀
Great video. I would never have thought this to be a good wheel for it's price. I'm glad it is though 👍
Too bad Arnie can't use it
Thanks a lot buddy! Really was pleasantly surprised. For the price it's a really good offering 💪🏻
You might be the only one who has picked that up so far 😉 💀
Have been using this & the pedals for a couple of weeks, and as my first wheel/pedal setup ever, I'm loving it...mostly. Some issues;
-I've been having a constant problem where the wheel will just crash/freeze randomly, losing the FFB/all inputs and requiring it to be turned off and on again. This has been extremely irritating, especially during long AC races which then requires also restarting the game to use the wheel again (losing all race progress in the process). All I've been able to find online is a reddit post of someone else having the exact same issue from 4 months ago, with no resolution.
-Definitely upgrading the pedals asap, as I've been finding it extremely difficult to be consistent under braking - I had a lot more confidence & consistency with just the trigger of an Xbox One controller. Going to go with something load-cell based.
-The tiny paddle shifters can be quite finicky and I have had some minor issues with input not registering, though it's very rare and I think mostly just based on finding them awkward in certain situations than any kind of electrical/software based issue. I have ordered some larger caps for them from an Etsy seller though, which I do believe should help.
-As someone who personally purchased the product, I can say there's a rather large caveat to the 'value' proposition. Having my order shipped from Cammus' "UK-Based Warehouse" to another UK address cost me over £50, which is A LOT and almost turned me off completely. If it weren't for the fact I got it during the xmas sale, the price would've ended up being barely any less than Fanatec's entry-level Ready2Race bundles.
Other than that though, I've been loving the performance of the wheel itself - while it works.
This is a wonderfully detailed response, thank you for posting this. Interesting to hear back from someone who more than likely has more wheel time than myself on it.
• I thankfully have not had any wheel disconnect issues. Have you attempted to contact Cammus? I would be interested to hear what their support is like after sale.
• I agree with the pedals. You need to change ASAP. Going from my regulars I was crashing into the wall consistently and had no feedback. They need to work on these to make them enjoyable.
• I would be very interested to hear what your experience is like with the paddle shifter modifications.
• This is less than ideal with the shipping. Very similar to Fanatec when you order from them. Was everything sent out as one or did it come in separate packages?
What pedals will you be looking at to replace the CP5's?
I don't think the shifters could be much bigger without being in the way due to the size of the wheel centrepiece.
I think it's generally a fair tradeoff for different driving disciplines - drifting, rally etc.
Would be nice if they were metal with different plate options though.
Respectfully disagree. Extending them superiority, inferiorly and a little bit laterally would in my opinion improve the form factor significantly. The extensions sold on ETSY do this although admittedly I have not had the chance to try them yet.
Still, for the price. I think it's a pretty good offering.
@@TraumaTeamRacing just my own experience from drifting and rallying in VR.
I find them ok for formula and GT if not great.
Like I said replaceable metal plates would be better but likely push up the overall cost.
You've probably got more hours on this than me buddy. Personally, I would never use paddle for rally and I can't drift 😅 If you haven't yet, definitely look at picking up a sequential 💪🏻 There are some great entry level offerings out there.
I'm actually on the lookout for a sequential or maybe a DIY job.
What I meant though was that the paddles can get in the way for drifting and rally even if you aren't using them.
I use h pattern for these disciplines not paddles.
Apologies, I misunderstood. I use a Fanatec shifter that switches quite nicely between H-pattern and sequential which might be worth looking at.
I feel like this wheel could be a king of the niche in the niche - meaning, sim racing traveler. If you travel a lot for your job and you still want to take your wheel with you to easily clamp it in the hotel room or a cabin on the ship you are stuck in - perfect. Compact size of the wheel could allow to put it to a big backpack or a luggage. However, the pedals feel like rushed product. They should follow the "compactness" of the wheel (potentially something which would allow easy dismantling them while in the transport). Break pedal seems like the weakest point of it. For the stationary home use it feels that Moza or Fanatec DDs might be a better choice
I tell you what, this did cross my mind! If I ever needed to go anywhere and I needed to race I could through this in a luggage bag really easily!
I agree with you on the pedals. The brake pedal is simply unenjoyable. No feedback and impossible to replicate braking points on repeated laps.
At present it is difficult to recommend the bundle with such a weak pedal set, I agree 👍🏻
Question: Are the accelerator and brake pedal springs wound the *EXACT* same number of times? I've seen footage showing the brake pedal with one extra twist, but a lot of voices tend to say they're "Exactly the same level of resistance" which seems impossible with one spring being tighter.
Response: It seems to be sporadic. On my set the accelerator has one more turn. In actuality this makes no difference what so ever and I would imagine a larger gauge spring would be needed rather than just increasing the number of turns. The experience is the same on both pedals in my opinion.
@@TraumaTeamRacing Thanks so much! I appreciate the in-depth reply!
You are very welcome Joe 👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing I am going to try mounting the brake pedal pad slightly lower in hopes that less leverage will provide a slightly different ankle feel than a higher mounted pad on the accelerator. Basically just trying to eek every ounce of uniqueness I can out of these bad boys.
@JoeLocastro I would advise the opposite. I think you would want the biggest moment arm (lever arm) on the ankle joint in order to get the best feeling. Therefore, mounting them high and keeping the control on the forefoot rather than the midfoot. Just my two cents. (Never thought we'd get into joint biomechanics in my CZcams comment section🤣)
The latest firmware supports gear display and other display customisation.
Thanks for this. I have the latest firmware. How do you activate this?
@@TraumaTeamRacing it's in the Cammus application. Will have to check which screen.
If it is it must be fairly buried. I've included all pages of the software in the video and can't see it 🤔 Would appreciate the guidance if you can find it 👍🏻
@@TraumaTeamRacing will take a look when I get back to my PC
Settings - devices - dashboard
On top
Are the mounting holes in C5 bundle, similar to G29? Asking because if I buy these, I might buy a wheel stand that's compatible with G29/Thrustmaster wheels (Next Level Racing etc) so I wanna make sure C5 will mount properly.
I cover this in the video 👍🏻
Use the mounting hole guide on this link for reference: www.gtomega.co.uk/products/titan-cockpit?variant=32162658779224¤cy=GBP&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwwr6wBhBcEiwAfMEQs_khJwK_Tsqjla_4MoBXGGfVu3295zQ9FusJudHDN7qf9mwo7epG1xoCF90QAvD_BwE
Yeah but as a confirmation, you do say that C5 will fit on all stands meant for G29/923 right? @@TraumaTeamRacing
Edit - GT Omega gives specs but isn't available here in my country. We only have NLR and other rip off brands.
@wolfwirestudios To confirm, that is not what I say in the video. I go into what mounting holes are compatible.
I’ve got this old wheel that is pretty good but Logitech didn’t want to update the drivers so I have to get a new one
What Logitech wheel do you have? 👀
I dont think I could look at this and not feel like I'm using a Madcatz wheel from the early 2000's
I unfortunately have never had the pleasure of using a Madcatz wheel 😅
You said wheel is a bit noisy. Did you come up with a noise like the one was mentioned by OC Racing? (czcams.com/video/S9uCaVcqXGw/video.html)
A typical issue on G29 series caused by vibration effect.
Very good video BTW. 👍Thanks for sharing 🙂
Thank you for the kind words TZAG!
I was not able to replicate anything like what is demonstrated here. I have been using the stock presets for the games too. This does not sound correct in my opinion and almost sounds faulty.
@@TraumaTeamRacing It seems you are not the only one. I recently watched this video (czcams.com/video/yIsqyCDd8qg/video.html) from Sim Racing Corner and he explains the reason that causes this. I think he has a point but honestly, I'm not 100% sure about it. Cheers!
I'll check this out, thanks! Love Sim Racing Corner, he makes some great content 👍🏻
70$ shipping
Where are you based?
@@TraumaTeamRacing usa
Is that shipping from a warehouse within the USA?
I am really disappointed with Cammus and at this moment I am not thinking about purchasing anything else from the brand, and I will strongly recommend to the virtual pilot community that they do not buy either.
What happened to bring you to this conclusion? You haven't mentioned the reason?
@@TraumaTeamRacing first: the product was defective after just 1 month of use. This in itself is already quite negative. The right and then the left shift paddle broke (this is common on C5 Cammus). After that, a firmware update was done and the steering wheel stopped working and never came back. Cammus sent another one as a guarantee, stating that the shipping costs and customs fees would be their responsibility. I paid the fees and now cammus informs that the amounts are too high for refund. In a warranty process, all expenses (new replacement part, freight, fees and taxes) must be borne by the supplier and not by the customer. For me, it is acceptable for a product to fail, but it is completely unacceptable for the expenses related to the warranty to be the responsibility of the customer.
This is really disappointing. If they agreed to pay and then went back on their word this is unacceptable. Have you got it in writing? Depending on your location perhaps there is a course of action you can take to get your money back?
@@TraumaTeamRacing I have everything recorded in emails. I live in Brazil, so I believe it is difficult to take any action. What's left for me is to let as many people in the virtual pilot community know as possible.
This is a shame and I am sorry to hear this. I would keep trying to get a resolution by email.