That Time Disney Built a Creepy Government

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    The most magical place on Earth, or a sinister site of social control?
    Disney World is beloved all over the globe for the pure escapism it offers. But the story behind this fantasy world is a lot weirder, and a whole lot less magical than it might seem. We'll explain in this Wisecrack Edition: That Time Disney Built a Creepy Government.
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    Written by Jeanette Moreland
    Hosted by Michael Burns
    Directed by Elizabeth Yarwood
    Illustrations by J.R Fleming
    Motion Graphics by Riley A
    Editing & Additional Animation by Brian M Kim
    Produced by Evan Yee
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  • @anissaboukra8363
    @anissaboukra8363 Před 3 lety +2262

    i'm getting "there is no war in ba sing se" vibes from this

    • @Kino_Cartoon
      @Kino_Cartoon Před 3 lety +170

      "there are no poor, depressed, underplayed, or dirty people in Disney world."

    • @Shrooblord
      @Shrooblord Před 3 lety +19

      OMIGOD YOU'RE RIGHT

    • @diogenesdacynic8656
      @diogenesdacynic8656 Před 3 lety +56

      The earth king invites you to lake laogai😶

    • @elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770
      @elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 Před 3 lety +54

      There is no virus in Walt Disney World. There is no virus in Walt Disney World.

    • @nuclearcatbaby1131
      @nuclearcatbaby1131 Před 3 lety +20

      I want a Disneyland with a Holocaust train car ride. And a Small World where the creepy dolls are killing each other.

  • @RJ_Ehlert
    @RJ_Ehlert Před 3 lety +530

    "The American version of the Vatican," hits hard on so many levels.

  • @jackiewignall8186
    @jackiewignall8186 Před 3 lety +48

    I'm an ex cast member and I lived in celebration in an apartment on main street. It was awesome till my first late shift. When I got off at 8pm everything was closed and no one was on the streets it was so eerie I felt like I was in the Truman show.

  • @scrambled5948
    @scrambled5948 Před 3 lety +392

    “Into a realm where princesses are real” I’m pretty sure princesses are real outside of Disneyland

    • @lovetoclearclouds7017
      @lovetoclearclouds7017 Před 3 lety +15

      Not even the supposed princesses are really princesses. They’re all pirate families that have claimed the status. And people allowed it because sheeple are stupid.

    • @scrambled5948
      @scrambled5948 Před 3 lety +46

      @@lovetoclearclouds7017 I bet you’re real fun at parties

    • @vasaradragonsbane5580
      @vasaradragonsbane5580 Před 3 lety +7

      @@scrambled5948 *pat* there there beta male, the big bad CZcams Comment can't hurt you

    • @scrambled5948
      @scrambled5948 Před 3 lety +23

      @@vasaradragonsbane5580 oh. You’re one of those guys, huh?

    • @32mybelle
      @32mybelle Před 3 lety +1

      Um, there are whole Royal families.

  • @HRush-lu6fj
    @HRush-lu6fj Před 3 lety +2206

    I wanna hear the story about how Michael got permanently kicked out of Universal Studios

  • @UltraPoseidon
    @UltraPoseidon Před 3 lety +307

    Disney was once told he had the popularity to be elected president. He responded: "Why would I want to be President of the United States? I'm the King of Disneyland!"

    • @Armendicus
      @Armendicus Před 3 lety +17

      He didn't wanna do war crimes...

    • @UltraPoseidon
      @UltraPoseidon Před 3 lety +19

      @John joseph Corona he did believe in conservative family values so we probably would have seen a continuation of the nuclear family. He wasn't a racist, contrary to rumors, so I Don't think he would have obstructed civil rights legislation too much. He would have gone after unions though considering how much he despised them. That might have been his undoing.

    • @alejandrocervantes3624
      @alejandrocervantes3624 Před 3 lety +23

      "why would I serve in heaven when I can rule in hell?" vives from that quote

    • @wakkaseta8351
      @wakkaseta8351 Před 3 lety +10

      Considering how big of a control freak he was, he would've probably tried to sanitize culture and society into the faux saccharine "utopia" he kept trying to create had he become president.

  • @theonetribble5867
    @theonetribble5867 Před 3 lety +67

    "You load sixteen tons, what do you get
    Another day older and deeper in debt
    Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
    I owe my soul to the company store."

    • @mesmith2526
      @mesmith2526 Před 3 lety +1

      "Prime" example of what it's like when you're handed a glass of Kool-Aid but you didn't as for any....

  • @chucky187
    @chucky187 Před 3 lety +51

    The "Real Magic" of Disney is how the park employees manage to survive on such poor wages.

  • @MrTheHeriyo
    @MrTheHeriyo Před 3 lety +1153

    It was like the plot of a bioshock game, but in real life. I'd totally play that

    • @ahlishaholloway233
      @ahlishaholloway233 Před 3 lety +97

      I always imagined Andrew Ryan was based on Walt Disney. With a little Howard Hughes crazy thrown in.

    • @MrTheHeriyo
      @MrTheHeriyo Před 3 lety +20

      @@ahlishaholloway233 Yeah, and he had a bit of Zachary Comstock too.

    • @agentprismarine2778
      @agentprismarine2778 Před 3 lety +22

      "We happy few' is similar, I would reccomend to check it out.

    • @brya9681
      @brya9681 Před 3 lety +5

      You should read the book fantasticland

    • @brya9681
      @brya9681 Před 3 lety +17

      @@ahlishaholloway233 to was Ayn Rand and Disney accoring to the creator

  • @SSJDuBois
    @SSJDuBois Před 3 lety +460

    I was a cast member for a couple years, it’s wild to see how accurate this is

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 Před 3 lety +4

      Hahahaha. Freaking true.

    • @robertdullnig3625
      @robertdullnig3625 Před 3 lety +1

      Would you work at any other theme park though?

    • @frankwolftown
      @frankwolftown Před 3 lety +2

      Who did you play?

    • @Skitdora2010
      @Skitdora2010 Před 3 lety +3

      Were you one of the poor guys in goofy or mickey costumes walking around in 105 degree humid weather?

    • @AQUAMARiNEraito
      @AQUAMARiNEraito Před 3 lety

      which disney character were you 'friend' with? (the industry's lingo lol)

  • @brandonmorel2658
    @brandonmorel2658 Před 3 lety +35

    Its so weird, its like Disney wanted this "self sustaining diorama" with people.

  • @gonzolonzo1383
    @gonzolonzo1383 Před 3 lety +20

    "It's the American equivalent to the Vatican" I have never heard truer words in my life

  • @lindashrugemoji9351
    @lindashrugemoji9351 Před 3 lety +272

    im pretty sure i read somewhere that the main reason epcot didn’t become the utopia that walt wanted was because he died and then the board was like “okay so we’re NOT gonna do that”

    • @BloodyAltima
      @BloodyAltima Před 3 lety +60

      Disney's corporate board members actively stalled the project even while he was alive, because as far as they were concerned it was just the stupid expensive vanity project of a dying old man that brought with itself more legal liabilities than have ever existed on this green world.

    • @Armendicus
      @Armendicus Před 3 lety +13

      @@BloodyAltima They may have been right... Bioshock comes to mind.

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Armendicus Of course they were right.

  • @KingKiller2ooo
    @KingKiller2ooo Před 3 lety +860

    “It’s like corporate fascism” umm no that’s a textbook definition of corporate fascism

    • @Chris-pt6hh
      @Chris-pt6hh Před 3 lety +71

      CZcams comments are so eager to argue, they'll even argue while agreeing.

    • @doctormo
      @doctormo Před 3 lety +10

      Ooooh, do Wisecrack on Violent Agreement!

    • @cellblocknine5385
      @cellblocknine5385 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Chris-pt6hh Lmao I know right?

    • @trashpanda6885
      @trashpanda6885 Před 3 lety +54

      It's almost like fascism is an inherent part of the capitalist toolset and that it will always favor fascism as a buffer against the left, resulting in a state of perpetually incubating fascist tendencies as a mechanism for preserving itself.

    • @majdjinn5042
      @majdjinn5042 Před 3 lety +3

      Sounds more like communism, structured like communism and helmed by a son of a communist and a communist

  • @mxmagix9894
    @mxmagix9894 Před 3 lety +13

    "Michael vs. Universal Studios: What Went Wrong?" definitely want to know what happened...

  • @tannerparks6030
    @tannerparks6030 Před 3 lety +38

    "Real life, real mortgages, real jobs..."
    "There was a brutal murder and a suicide"

  • @sobermind9885
    @sobermind9885 Před 3 lety +454

    Hey, remember when that "Disney is going to buy and own everything someday" joke was just a joke and not a real probability of a future evolving company towns and strange communities? Good times... how can you get banned for life from Universal studios?

    • @raaaaaaaaaam496
      @raaaaaaaaaam496 Před 3 lety +4

      If you shift the place up I’m pretty sure that’s a way to get banned for life

    • @markmurex6559
      @markmurex6559 Před 3 lety +11

      Asking questions.

    • @Hapsetshut
      @Hapsetshut Před 3 lety +1

      @@markmurex6559 But it isn't that how you get banned from Disney too?

    • @markmurex6559
      @markmurex6559 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Hapsetshut Yes.

    • @Hapsetshut
      @Hapsetshut Před 3 lety

      @@markmurex6559 Well alrighty then

  • @peter4210
    @peter4210 Před 3 lety +249

    Capitalist: Communism makes life dull and stripped of individualism
    Also Capitalism: builds a dystopia with no individualism.
    It's like the lack of individualism is more linked to the level of authoritarianism and not of the economic freedom.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 Před 3 lety +8

      Every major societal change, like revolutions, require authoritarianism, the only alternative is slow changes over long periods of time.

    • @AbrahamMeat
      @AbrahamMeat Před 3 lety +3

      @@arx3516 if that helps you sleep at night...

    • @AbrahamMeat
      @AbrahamMeat Před 3 lety +13

      And not only to authoritarianism. The fact that the strive for acquiring capital supersedes every other human pursuit in a capitalist society, is a threat to individuality. One’s life cannot be devoted to the fulfillment of our own individual needs. Instead, everything boils down to acquiring capital. We see this with artists. For example, all music tends to be similar, as music companies favor artists that follow a comercial formula, instead of favoring creativity.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 Před 2 lety

      @Luís Andrade that's right, any drastic change is bound to bring problems. The solution is gradual reforms through democratic process. As i said, the real oroblem is the revolution, violence brings only problems.

    • @DathCoco
      @DathCoco Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@arx3516 revolutions and authoritarianism cause quick non sustainable changes.
      True. If you want something to last long you need to have slow changes over long periods of time.

  • @LucasNapolitano
    @LucasNapolitano Před 3 lety +7

    This would be an awesome movie idea:
    The story of someone who has lived its whole life exclusively inside Disney World Grounds, having to get out to the real world for the 1st time. It would be the most realistic approach to the "Truman Show", "Last Emperor" or "Blast From The Pat" trope ever.

  • @jamesveronese6519
    @jamesveronese6519 Před 3 lety +7

    I got a Disney+ ad after this. Just kinda hammers home how terrifying they are

    • @desuordie4856
      @desuordie4856 Před 2 lety

      That's just google seeing that you watched a Disney video

  • @tylersmith5124
    @tylersmith5124 Před 3 lety +397

    Disney world to this day actually has legal authority to make their own Nuclear power plant if they wanted. I love the idea of a plant with a giant Mickey head shaped power plant

    • @vladavram9209
      @vladavram9209 Před 3 lety +21

      The ultimate mikytool

    • @nlpnt
      @nlpnt Před 3 lety +31

      Never happen. They'll go with a Simpsons theme.

    • @TheMysteryDriver
      @TheMysteryDriver Před 3 lety +8

      @@vladavram9209 mousketool

    • @vetren23
      @vetren23 Před 3 lety +3

      @@nlpnt You win

    • @pirateraider1708
      @pirateraider1708 Před 3 lety +14

      More likely they'd make it look like a castle. Maybe with a giant styrofoam dragon attacking to help explain the smoke.

  • @KatherinaBathory
    @KatherinaBathory Před 3 lety +287

    Is it weird that this video both reinforces the fact that I have never wanted to go to Disney World and gives me, at the same time, enough curiosity to go and visit the place?

    • @1mag1nat1vename
      @1mag1nat1vename Před 3 lety +30

      I actually have stayed at Disney World, and seeing this has tempted me to go back, just to look on it with adult eyes (...not effectively, though. Disney World is just too expensive and creepy)

    • @SanfordBlack
      @SanfordBlack Před 3 lety +18

      yeah, i feel that. my sister brings up going as a family fairly often, but in my cynicism and cool-guyness i think "fuck that corporate hell-hole" and then in my childish wonder and fun-fun times, i think "wheeeee!" but i'm more the former than the latter, don't really like "fun" anyway, and if the pretzels are $7, everything else is gonna be exorbitant and they don't need my money, damnit.

    • @kimifw58
      @kimifw58 Před 3 lety +5

      You should go there at least once in your life. See for yourself how artificial it is.

    • @davidreeding9176
      @davidreeding9176 Před 3 lety

      I mean, I know I'll never want to go there, because I am baised against everything disney

    • @nuthead8888
      @nuthead8888 Před 3 lety +16

      Hey it’s a fun place. I had fun. But like Vegas, not somewhere to live. Go for a week at max. Make the most of it. Then go the fuck home.

  • @gwyneth2869
    @gwyneth2869 Před 3 lety +49

    All I could about the whole time was when Bart wears a bra on his head and in best mickey impression says "I'm the mascot of an evil corporation"

    • @lovetoclearclouds7017
      @lovetoclearclouds7017 Před 3 lety +1

      The writers of the Simpson’s have ties to the [fake] throne in England. Now...being who they are, why would they write that in?

    • @_Rick___Grimes_
      @_Rick___Grimes_ Před 2 lety +2

      Loveto ClearClouds what the actual fuck are talking about

  • @DoctorHouse999
    @DoctorHouse999 Před 3 lety +21

    Imagine a Disney themed horror game based on Disney world.

  • @iwantsomecookies08
    @iwantsomecookies08 Před 3 lety +517

    Just waiting for Bezos to announce "Prime City"

    • @darvell.
      @darvell. Před 3 lety +24

      didn't they try to do that in Toronto? or was that google...

    • @haveagreatday9865
      @haveagreatday9865 Před 3 lety +14

      Amazonian prime

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety +10

      @@haveagreatday9865 Ford already tried an Amazon Prime community. Bang in the middle of the jungle.

    • @RosesAndIvy
      @RosesAndIvy Před 3 lety

      @@darvell. Yeah that was google

    • @andrewduong2740
      @andrewduong2740 Před 3 lety +5

      @@darvell. You're talking about Quayside, the Sidewalk Labs project to turn a whole stretch of Port Lands along Commissioner's street into a "smart city". This is Google we're talking about, so there were some obvious concerns from the start.

  • @darrellchaseleggett8117
    @darrellchaseleggett8117 Před 3 lety +428

    When you relaize Walt Disney was just an Andrew Ryan that decided to build his empire on land. Disney World is literally Rapture without the superpowers

    • @ahlishaholloway233
      @ahlishaholloway233 Před 3 lety +60

      Disney's original designs for EPCOT always reminded me of Rapture. Although arguably Walt is worse than Ryan. Ryan was a rapacious capitalist, but he didn't have any racial paranoia or distorted views of American exceptionalism, unlike Disney

    • @DracoMagnius
      @DracoMagnius Před 3 lety +36

      Andrew Ryan always reminded me of Walt Disney, their personality and way of dressing. Also Rapture is designed similarly to Disney World. A bunch of different locations connected by the same mode of transportation, each area of Rapture adheres to a theme and its all centered around an ideology of removing the problematic parts of society.

    • @darrellchaseleggett8117
      @darrellchaseleggett8117 Před 3 lety +9

      @@ahlishaholloway233 I guess it made it better that Andrew was Russian lol

    • @darrellchaseleggett8117
      @darrellchaseleggett8117 Před 3 lety +19

      @@DracoMagnius I never realized that. Columbia is even more like Disney as well. Columbia is literally just a racist theme park

    • @borjaslamic
      @borjaslamic Před 3 lety

      @@darrellchaseleggett8117 And fictional

  • @professordogwood8985
    @professordogwood8985 Před 3 lety +57

    0:28 in Canada a "hidden mickey" is a small bottle of liquor that you stash someplace.

  • @rarazalproductions519
    @rarazalproductions519 Před 3 lety +16

    Getting HUGE Rapture vibes from Disney's original idea.
    "No god's or kings, only The Mouse."

  • @EinsamPibroch278
    @EinsamPibroch278 Před 3 lety +375

    Company Town, another way to say, Wage-Slave Plantation.

    • @raaaaaaaaaam496
      @raaaaaaaaaam496 Před 3 lety +12

      Ironic that the idea came from Bolsheviks

    • @bioticjedi3864
      @bioticjedi3864 Před 3 lety +9

      Or feudal city-state/principality

    • @lucyandecember2843
      @lucyandecember2843 Před 3 lety +1

      made me think of ANCH when he started talking about them lol

    • @jaxonarnold8039
      @jaxonarnold8039 Před 3 lety +12

      @@raaaaaaaaaam496 Not really, the Bolsheviks were totalitarian themselves. Also company towns existed before the Bolsheviks ever took power.

    • @Turin-Fett
      @Turin-Fett Před 3 lety

      It really isn't any different than whatever other country you live in. Tax slave.

  • @chapsonacouch245
    @chapsonacouch245 Před 3 lety +192

    Shouldn’t have mentioned the “Tesla city with Elon Musk as dictator” at the end the Musk fans would unironically sign up for that

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety +16

      Plot twist. It's on Mars.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 Před 3 lety +2

      Elon’s currently the world’s richest person now.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety +19

      @@SlapstickGenius23 And a lot of it from public money.

    • @guga_pires
      @guga_pires Před 3 lety +2

      Damn right I would😎

    • @keenukhang8201
      @keenukhang8201 Před 3 lety

      @@anonb4632 with dogecoin as currency 😆

  • @talideon
    @talideon Před 3 lety +12

    "Wow, that was fantastic! It was so nice and so clean! I've love to live there!"... says somebody coming back from Singapore after a week.

  • @tyroneslothdrop9155
    @tyroneslothdrop9155 Před 3 lety +128

    No drunk teenagers was one of its strongest selling points, honestly.

  • @JoseMartinez-pn9dy
    @JoseMartinez-pn9dy Před 3 lety +157

    "I owe my soul... to the company store..."

  • @marceledel8619
    @marceledel8619 Před 3 lety +269

    Random sign in a Disney-owned town: "Mickey is watching you."

  • @ushouldbejealous
    @ushouldbejealous Před 3 lety +13

    I'm surprised you didn't mention more about the underground tunnels, strict adherence to character, and other unfaorsble conditions the employees deal with

  • @duegia44
    @duegia44 Před 3 lety +24

    "I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Disney world" - Andrew Disney

    • @_Rick___Grimes_
      @_Rick___Grimes_ Před 2 lety

      i never thought about this parallel until now hahahha bioshock always remains relevant

  • @tecpaocelotl
    @tecpaocelotl Před 3 lety +102

    Those company towns sound like haciendas before the mexican revolution. It's why the mexican revolution happened.
    I want to hear the ban of universal properties story.

  • @lbradshaw316
    @lbradshaw316 Před 3 lety +4

    As a life long orlando resident, the magic died for me at a very long time ago. When all of your family and friends work their and tell you about their low wages, heavy restrictions and ridiculous commute, its hard to find the place worth the $200 ticket price.

  • @spinningninja2
    @spinningninja2 Před 3 lety +6

    I grew up in Celebration! Was a nice town to be a kid in. Lots of parks and walking paths (and when you were a Florida kid who didn't know what snow was like, the soap fountains were a blast, lol). I even went to that school they showed!
    Here's some random details that weren't mentioned:
    -Like 90% of the houses are like a foot apart from each other. You can barely squeeze a person between some of them
    -Most "yards" are like 15 square feet of grass crammed between the garage and the neighbors garage
    -Houses that weren't like those were ludicrously fancy mansions. One in particular that stuck out to me is literally like an entire block in length. Like 8 houses could have fit on its plot
    -Because this is all still in freaking Florida, animals were everywhere. Turkeys wandered the streets, pigs ate up yards and alligators were in every body of water
    Was definitely a bit of a weird place, but I remember it fondly.

  • @hernans901
    @hernans901 Před 3 lety +86

    "This is The Bad Place"
    -Eleanor Shellstrop

  • @wiskeslagroom2472
    @wiskeslagroom2472 Před 3 lety +25

    You cant just tell us you’re banned for life from Universal Studios and then not tell us the story. 🍵

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 Před 3 lety +6

    That comparison shot of The Vatican and the Disneyland plaza - that was some genius work right there

  • @am.perronace
    @am.perronace Před 3 lety +51

    What I personally see, being an ecologist, is how huge that property is and the fact that it was originally all a wild space....what a waste, that could have been so much protected land...

  • @Lowlight91
    @Lowlight91 Před 3 lety +87

    “Hidden Mickeys” is a very creepy phrase. For multiple reasons.

    • @lovetoclearclouds7017
      @lovetoclearclouds7017 Před 3 lety +5

      Sorry, but I don’t agree with this one. It’s a game, find the Mickey head shapes scattered around the park. How is that any diff than Where’s Waldo? Or hunting Easter/Ishtar eggs? Or playing hide ‘n seek? Or searching for hidden knowledge? Sometimes, people just take things too far...extremists, if you will.🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @Mike14264
      @Mike14264 Před 3 lety +2

      @@lovetoclearclouds7017 yeah, a Hidden Mickey is just that, a hidden mascot symbol, you look at it, and you're like "heh, nice, I found one."

  • @ocek2744
    @ocek2744 Před 3 lety +15

    This is Bioshock. Now I'm thinking that Andrew Ryan is 100% based on Walt Disney and Disneyland.

    • @cartersparks7580
      @cartersparks7580 Před 2 lety +1

      While Andrew Ryan was based on Ayn Rand, her ideas were extremely prevalent in Walt Disney’s time

  • @sorinvonbelmont6726
    @sorinvonbelmont6726 Před 3 lety +5

    I always sensed a correlation between Walt Disney and Andrew Ryans caracterization in bioschock but I could not quite articulate it now I see the paralels a little better than before. Thanks wisecrack crew.

  • @pacalolo1862
    @pacalolo1862 Před 3 lety +2

    Now I know why I always felt such anxiety inside that park, and why even as a child I always felt there was something off with disney in general.

  • @am.perronace
    @am.perronace Před 3 lety +6

    I never knew what disney world was so huge and complex....I always thought it was just another amusement park. This is really concerning though, I totally agree with you

  • @shlagevuk
    @shlagevuk Před 3 lety +324

    Corporate fascism seems to be a good definition of Disney world.

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 Před 3 lety +8

      Mickey Skaven needs a purging

    • @Trussme96
      @Trussme96 Před 3 lety +9

      Well its pretty fitting considering how Disney and Hitler were practically in love with each other.

    • @1234kalmar
      @1234kalmar Před 3 lety +2

      Kind of redundant tho, Corporate Fascism

    • @atropa6053
      @atropa6053 Před 3 lety +2

      Never been there but it seemed super dark from the beginning to me, now i can put my finger on why. Going there on acid would be hell by the way.

    • @moustachio05
      @moustachio05 Před 3 lety

      @@1234kalmar how is it redundant?

  • @marcovargas3372
    @marcovargas3372 Před 3 lety +5

    This feels like the trilogy of Bioshock just copy pasted Walt Disney's bio.

  • @lunacouer
    @lunacouer Před 3 lety +13

    So basically, Celebration, FL is the worst HOA ever formed...

  • @DarknetDude
    @DarknetDude Před 3 lety +12

    It's unnerving because, at the back of our minds, we know it's not real. It's literally too good to be true. And it's like uncanny valley in the sense that is creepy.

    • @yesmansam6686
      @yesmansam6686 Před 2 lety

      I'm fine with this as long as it stays in Disney land.

  • @surturiel
    @surturiel Před 3 lety +13

    ON Epcot: There are some planned cities with the same ethos as that in Brazil: They're called Alphavilles. It's basically a gated CITY.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety +1

      Named after a French film. I have it on video (VHS) somewhere. There is a place in India run like this.

    • @surturiel
      @surturiel Před 3 lety +1

      @Maria Alice Corrêa de Souza outskirts of São Paulo. Situated partially in Barueri, partially in Santana do Parnaíba is the most famous one. No one that works there lives there.

  • @p1nkfreud
    @p1nkfreud Před 3 lety +16

    8:00 Can we just stop and appreciate that a real person had this name at one point...

  • @sorenkazaren4659
    @sorenkazaren4659 Před 3 lety +4

    The scary part is that we all seem to enjoy it.
    Hell even that mention of the evacuation is something that is wild. Can you imagine the preparation and organization involved in that? Makes you think we’d be better off with Disney in charge of the government.
    AND THEN you realize how crazy and terrible that would be.

  • @quintenwhyte6660
    @quintenwhyte6660 Před 3 lety +8

    Dr. Allen Grant: "We're out of a job."
    Dr. Ian Malcolm: "Don't you mean extinct?"

  • @Dude_Abides
    @Dude_Abides Před 3 lety +47

    Now i wanna hear the story of Michael's banning from Universal Studios

  • @TAP7a
    @TAP7a Před 3 lety +10

    Absolutely insane, cannot believe the extent of the ambition, and even the reality is well on the way to be a bit sickening

  • @sarahbeebe
    @sarahbeebe Před 3 lety +2

    Oh Disney. This brought back so many memories, stuff I swore I must have forgotten. My family went to Disney in Feb 1995, and we actually designated a day where our goal was to visit Celebration and see the wonders. Terrifying to children, and my parents never spoke of it again. Luckily my great-grandparents didn't live far away, so when we ditched early we visited them a second time.

  • @ohwell7680
    @ohwell7680 Před 3 lety +3

    I feel like nobody will ever really try to look deep into Disney because most of videos of anyone that does seems like they have a light-hearted ness to what it is

  • @Pandaemoni
    @Pandaemoni Před 3 lety +13

    Teslaville is a much scarier concept. First of all, it will probably be on Mars...

    • @bartz0rt928
      @bartz0rt928 Před 3 lety +4

      Don't need fences to keep the riffraff out when you have a hundred million miles of cold, uncaring void!

    • @leannezezeski-sass2773
      @leannezezeski-sass2773 Před 3 lety +1

      So if you end up not liking it, you can never escape

  • @benabramowitz18
    @benabramowitz18 Před 3 lety +24

    Didn’t Defunctland make a video about this months ago?

  • @manwhoismissingtwotoenails4777

    Company towns sounds like a dystopian society where you have to work too long to ever realize how bad your situation is.

  • @aedanokelly5794
    @aedanokelly5794 Před 3 lety +3

    I was scared by “Mickey can’t hurt you”

  • @Mirai_the_weeb
    @Mirai_the_weeb Před 3 lety +102

    Literally that payment situation reminds me of bioshock infinite. Finkton MFG. Had a town he owned and operated under the factories and everyone was paid in money they could only use for Finkton owned things only. If you know how that turned out, you know

    • @ahlishaholloway233
      @ahlishaholloway233 Před 3 lety +20

      Funnily enough, Main Street USA always reminded me of Columbia from Bioshock Infinite. Ironically, both were built to exhibit the same kind of American ideals.

    • @Madsovic999
      @Madsovic999 Před 3 lety +7

      Good to see that i'm not the only one who thinks Bioshock may have had some inspiration from Disney. I didn't know how big disney world is and how creepily they manage it

    • @diestormlie
      @diestormlie Před 3 lety +3

      Yup. That sure is a Company town!

    • @taralinn863
      @taralinn863 Před 3 lety

      Walt was a Fink man!

    • @trashpanda6885
      @trashpanda6885 Před 3 lety +6

      That's because both are modeled after the coal towns of the early 20th century in the US.

  • @kswone1
    @kswone1 Před 3 lety +13

    I can't even imagine a world where princesses are real. Durrrppppp.

    • @alexandrebeaudry8377
      @alexandrebeaudry8377 Před 3 lety +2

      The funny thing about Princess is that it's an horrible life and symbol. It's being sold to a men of power by your father.

  • @PaintSplashProductions
    @PaintSplashProductions Před 3 lety +78

    “Where princesses are real”
    The British royal family: Excuse me?
    (Edit: thanks for bringing up that its the British Royal family, I'm English so its even worse I had to be told this 😅)

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety +6

      Half the countries in western Europe. Even the likes of Liechtenstein and Monaco.

    • @vetren23
      @vetren23 Před 3 lety +2

      @@anonb4632 You're right but also who is THE Queen?

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety +2

      @@andrewleo1521 The US does have a kind of monarchy it's called the presidency. You may laugh but the POTUS role has taken on some of the ceremonial aspects that a monarch would be involved in elsewhere. Another aspect is how his wife and family are viewed.

    • @sircoloniser5454
      @sircoloniser5454 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s the British royal family, there has been no English royal family since 1707

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 3 lety

      @@sircoloniser5454 It's the English royal family. The Scottish royal family was removed from the throne twice by the English, firstly by executing Charles I (the last actual Scottish king) and then a few years after the Stuarts were restored, the line was usurped completely. (Hence the Jacobite movement.)
      If you want to argue it the other way there hasn't been an English royal house for over a thousand years, when the Danes took over and were superseded by the Normans, and then houses of Dutch, French, German, Scottish and Welsh origin.

  • @JemLeavitt
    @JemLeavitt Před 3 lety +5

    There's some pretty important and currently relevant potential lessons that could be learned within this...

  • @ArmageddonAngel
    @ArmageddonAngel Před 3 lety +113

    I can sneak you into Universal, Michael.

    • @Shrooblord
      @Shrooblord Před 3 lety +4

      From a user name 'ArmageddonAngel'... strangely chilling

    • @brandon91191
      @brandon91191 Před 3 lety +1

      I kind of wonder what led to such a ban, but do we REALLY want to know? Lol.

  • @nnnn65490
    @nnnn65490 Před 3 lety +81

    Huh, I always thought heterotopia was what Mike Pence calls his safe place

  • @AdalizMColon
    @AdalizMColon Před 3 lety +2

    Loved the video. As a former cast member, is insane how much I found myself accenting nodding yes and kinda realizing we were told about much of this story in our training (though of course with the introspection, analysis and all framed as a nice thing).

  • @AnyBodyWannaPeanut
    @AnyBodyWannaPeanut Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for perfectly describing and putting into words what I've always felt about Disney and that place. I couldn't really describe it myself other than it made me feel uneasy and that it didn't feel right. You nailed it!

  • @wargriffin5
    @wargriffin5 Před 3 lety +4

    Disney: "NO GAMBLING!"
    Also Disney: @16:54

  • @cameronbfox7393
    @cameronbfox7393 Před 3 lety +3

    This kind of reminds me of the Astor colony in 1812 where Jon Jacob Astor tried to make the whole Pacific Northwest into his own private corporate nation.

  • @alexandrebeaudry8377
    @alexandrebeaudry8377 Před 3 lety +1

    It now make sense that Disney most iconic idea: "The princess" is value. Selling a princess for wealth to a King is just normal for a creepy corporation. It's basically telling the world of a goldigger is magical.

  • @kingcobra2858
    @kingcobra2858 Před 3 lety +2

    Even seemingly randomized animals like birds are disneyfied. Birds act like how they act in disney cartoons. Its amazing tbh.

  • @ihab2002ahmad
    @ihab2002ahmad Před 3 lety +14

    Could you PLEASE make a video discussing the philosophy in the latest seasons of Attack on Titan. Please make one on part 2 of season 3 before season 4 ends and then a new video just about season 4.

  • @brickingle3984
    @brickingle3984 Před 3 lety +8

    I've stayed in a mansion in golden oaks and that shit is wild

    • @11FBA11
      @11FBA11 Před 3 lety +1

      What was wild about it? How do the people act? Just rich people shut off from reality?

    • @brickingle3984
      @brickingle3984 Před 3 lety +3

      @@11FBA11 rich people shut off from reality. How much of a different park experience rich people get, and just what it means to be a rich person and how life is different for them. Nothing radicalized me more than that week with a billionaire lol

  • @d.t.garcia8705
    @d.t.garcia8705 Před 3 lety

    This was an excellent video. Your closing insights were very interesting.

  • @alesaenz
    @alesaenz Před 3 lety

    Very well done video. Giving a lot to think about.

  • @gezz5904
    @gezz5904 Před 3 lety +3

    I must be a huge nerd, because I thought EVERYONE knew that Walt Disney's original vision for Epcot was a futuristic city.

  • @toniharrison1215
    @toniharrison1215 Před 3 lety +25

    I got a Disney plus ad before this video, lol.

  • @Tlali22
    @Tlali22 Před 3 lety +2

    I once wandered my way into Celebration's movie theater (I got very lost.) When I tried to buy a ticket, there was no cash register. They couldn't take my money, so they just let me in for free. Yes, it's exactly as creepy as it sounds.

  • @michaelbookout7561
    @michaelbookout7561 Před 3 lety

    Great presentation!

  • @LukasLuke2
    @LukasLuke2 Před 3 lety +24

    I literally just got an ad for Disney Plus.

  • @marcoandrade4872
    @marcoandrade4872 Před 3 lety +15

    defunctland has a good deep dive on disney and the legacy he wanted to establish

  • @Waitwhat469
    @Waitwhat469 Před 3 lety +1

    To me, it's one of those things where people can be smart enough to design huge complex machines, but not smart enough to realize that doesn't mean they are capable of personally solving all the worlds problems.
    Planned cities sometimes seem less efficient than the slums tbh

  • @0ned
    @0ned Před 3 lety +1

    6:25 "scratch on virgin" -Walt Disney
    Why am I not surprised⸮

  • @LucioXIVGilmez
    @LucioXIVGilmez Před 3 lety +3

    This was an amazing video! There’s a manga called Billy Bat and it’s an interesting read. It has conspiracy’s and it all is tied to a comic book character that is the Micky Mouse of the story’s world.

  • @makoseda
    @makoseda Před 3 lety +5

    Ohh, so that’s what Tragic Kingdom was about.

  • @iluzota
    @iluzota Před 3 lety

    Wow. This video got me looking at Disney in a whole different way. Thank you for a great video👍

  • @scarscanbebeautiful
    @scarscanbebeautiful Před 3 lety +1

    Loved this video!! Would you consider adding a Works Cited or recommended further reading list to your description? Great analysis but could be helpful for people who want to learn more and are looking for more ebooks since, you know, lockdown.

  • @Enderikari2
    @Enderikari2 Před 3 lety +30

    "Disney will do anything to make money, but before I tell you what I mean, first a word from our sponsors..."

    • @Yankee_Doodle_Dandy
      @Yankee_Doodle_Dandy Před 3 lety +1

      Nailed it. The facts in this video are more or less correct but... This channel’s interpretation of what Disney wanted out of EPCOT are just dumb. Why would Disney World show the darker side of the US, it’s a park for children. There’s no dark hidden secrets, just a park to make money. This video is just dumb.

    • @erimgard3128
      @erimgard3128 Před 3 lety +4

      ....I don't think you grasped the point of the video at all lol
      It's not saying that there's an evil plot going on at Disney World today.

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 Před 3 lety +4

      @@erimgard3128 It's behavior during COVID proves it's still pretty evil.

  • @gedrictudio
    @gedrictudio Před 3 lety +4

    Well, we did get to experience that Disney bubble last year.

  • @x2y3a1j5
    @x2y3a1j5 Před 3 lety +1

    I once lived for a while in a Disney Town in Europe. It is called Serris, and it's a few kilometers off Eurodisney/Disneyland Paris. I called it "Mousechwitz", because it had a subtle eerie feeling of being a concentration camp for employees. There were other 4 Mousechwitzes as well, all conveniently isolated from one another. Older employees and even older managers were telling us, new employees, how even a couple of years before we came in, at the picnic tables outside our dorms, designated managers would sit down with us every single time to control our conversations: immediate censorship of the slightest criticism towards Disney and, much worse, the only conversations allowed not only at those picnic tables but indeed in every single public space HAD TO BE about how great Disney was and what a great opportunity we employees had at being allowed the once-in-a-lifetime luckly opprtunity of toiling away for our slave masters. Our private clothing was also strictly regulated: wearing a clothes item with a rival brand cartoon character would immediately bring you threats of immediate termination of your work contract. There were barely any shops in or around Mousechwitz (a very expensive bakery, a very expensive soulless bar, and a very expensive minimarket, all three of them would close at 5 pm). And there was no other transportation except the buses that took you to Eurodisney; so 95% of the time 95% of the employees would go to the Disney Village to socialize and spend our little money at Disney bars and Disney eateries & restaurants (even with our 1O% discount it was still very expensive). For the rebels from us who wanted to do our weekly shopping at a normal store, we had to literally take a train to another city, Torcy, where all the Disney employees were prayed upon by the local thug bands, right at the train station and all the way to the shopping mall where the supermarket was, so we had to organize to go in groups of 6 but despite that still got tauntedd, threatened and occassionally robbed and beaten by those thug bands. At the park itself as well as at the hotels or the Disney village, employees could be fined if not smiling enough 100% of our time. I remember a day, as I was waiting a row of tables at one of the restaurants of the Sequoia Lodge Hotel, where my manager gave me a Pluto certificate for outstanding work the previous month at the beginning of my shift (this came with voucher of about USD100 that could only be spend at... you guessed it, Disney stores), and at the end of my shift he deducted USD150 from my pay b/c while I was clearing away a table and thus having to go the dishwashing area (off limits to guests, as it should be) a guy who was sitting alone at one of the tables I waited at took the opportunity to sneak away without paying his bill - we had controls at the exit to make sure this didn't happen but the guy went away unnoticed. How the hell was I supposed to watch somebody trying to sneak away while I am in another area of the restaurant??

  • @Jiji-the-cat5425
    @Jiji-the-cat5425 Před 2 lety +1

    The way Walt Disney's utopian city was planned and was to be run feels eerily similar to the way the USSR ran: one company owns everything, no unions were allowed, everyone HAS to be a worker, everyone works for the same company and that company is in charge of most aspects of daily life. This is all really ironic considering Walt Disney himself literally took part in the Red Scare during the 1950's.

  • @melinakorovessi713
    @melinakorovessi713 Před 3 lety +7

    Remember that time that kid got eaten by the gator at ine of their hotels

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 Před 3 lety +1

      It was the day after that gay night club was shot up. I felt so bad for not just the family, but for the poor cops who had to deal with that too.

  • @gabvillagepanda
    @gabvillagepanda Před 3 lety +6

    14:57 i hope the story behind this isn’t a patreon exclusive

    • @Regic
      @Regic Před 3 lety +3

      Oh have I bad news for you...

  • @leonpowe4916
    @leonpowe4916 Před 3 lety +1

    Anyone else think that Walt Disney describing his ideal town sounded a lot like how a 1920's Klansman would describe his?

  • @juliamcclaysy829
    @juliamcclaysy829 Před 3 lety +2

    I enjoy how more and more critical themed videos are popping up everywhere on yt.
    granted for those who knew there is not much to learn but im thrilled that its spreading into the mainstream