Weeds Indicate Soil Minerals
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potassium gets it name from pot-ash, the chemical symbol K is from Kalium, which also means ash
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Pot ash ...interesting hmmmm.... but wtf is he tryna say ? Lol
@@sallysorrentino4013 don't burn fern.. compost it.. as Fern grows (&dies) through it's life cycle it's very good at returning K to the top layers of soil where new growth tree get started
It doesn't typically 'burn off' in normal fire temperatures and ash was historically a very valuable source of the mineral
Id guess they like potassium are high in potassium and therefore grow in ashy potassium rich areas but who knows.
I would think he is 100% wrong.
Wood ash from fires is the best source of potassium, (potash). After fires plant growth is good due to it being there for plants to absorb. Potatoes like, need, it for example. It is good for root development generally.
This is a very confusing video.
Right? Is he tryna say fern means good ir bad soil? Or to leave ferns growing or not ...idfk lol
Lesson 2-3 times, you'll get it!
Yes he seems to get muddled up with what levels are where and when. Low in the soil, but high in the Ferns as they are good at getting it, is what I think he is trying to say.
Mostly nonsense. Potassium won't be lost in a fire, it'll stay in the ash. Bracken does have a lot of potassium. It grows in a pretty wide variety of soils though, and in no way implies there was ever a fire.
A hot fire, never had a cold one.
You have it backwards dude,,,, those plants are hi I K because if the potash left from a fire,,, Ash is very hi in K potassium requires a very very hot fire to burn off,, and is left behind in the ash of any fire that has not gotten hot enough
You just resaid what he said but started in a different part of the cycle. A fire would have burned K away and concentrated whatever wasn't burned in the ash
not true.. where I grew up bracken was common and every where and we never ever had fires.. sorry Geoff.. wrong again..
Perhaps there was an ancient fire there many hundreds if not thousands of years ago?
I dont know where this is but the new zealand people maoris staple food was braken fern root. They would yearly burn the ferns when they seasonly died off. Possibly he was talking about somthing like this??
Perhaps the ground they grow in is low in potassium? That was my first thought anyway
Fire deplets potassium because it burns it away into the atmosphere. So everywhere there are regular fires there's generally less potassium in the ground than places with lots of leaf decay, however minerals vary from area to area naturally so sometimes there's places with really high potassium and some with none regardless of weather conditions
@@kiwibushblock2564interesting. Have you tasted that plate or something similar and a little uncommon but very tasty? I tried a plant that tastes like lettuce this week but seen as non edible by locals yet foreigners know it and Pat for it. It was nice
‼️‼️‼️JUST REALIZED this is Hugh Grant. So cool that he’s doing his true passion now!
Ha nice try
This doesn’t make sense. You gather potassium from plants by burning them and then using water to settle out the ashes so you can get to the potassium. Pot ash, as others have said…
So if all the potassium goes up in smoke, how did we EVER find it and how do we really extract it???
I have to think more remains in the as than this seems to suggest.
Not all the potassium burns away bc it has a high burn point. So whatever is left is concentrated in the ash. Not really confusing idk why these comments are misunderstanding so hard
This guy is wrong the potassium is found in ash!
Which comes from plants
Potassium does not burn off
Yes it does it can evaporate with water
There is more potassium in fly ash than in bottom ash. I think that's what he's talking about. He doesn't make much sense though so I'm not expecting it to be what he meant.
@@DatsiKxModz lol what?
It likes acidic soil. Where i used to live, there were no fires but this bloody nuisance was everywhere and impossible to get rid of.
So glad to see you still going 100%, Geoff!
There are videos on CZcams how to cook young bracken shoots a few ways before developing leaves 🌱🌿
I think it would be more accurate to say that the fern prefers to grow when there is an abundant supply of potassium, such as immediately following a fire. Some plants SEEM to have an affinity for absorbing certain minerals from the subsoil - one of our ambitions here it to conduct the proper testing, with a mass spectrometer and controlled conditions, to determine what plants are really 'accumulators'. Is it the plant itself? Soil Ph or form the element is in? Are microbes essential for this delivery? Fungi?
I plant morus rubra along side of my allium beds in the hopes of capturing some sulfur from the leaves .. but I remain ignorant of precisely _how_ the tree accumulates it. If I want to be able to take my design to Mars, for example .. I need to know these things. We ALL do.
I think by microorganisms in symbiosis with the root of that specific plant
every plant is high in potassium. It's the most abundant mineral element in plants (OK, in some plants it's actually silicon). Potassium doesn't burn off in the smoke unless the ash is actually getting blown away from the fire
Do you mean in very short supply, or very short demand ?
I subscribed about 5 words into this post.
caught that, too. 😐
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Thank you!
I don't understand how the adding of potassium from ashes leave the soil depleted of it.
Shouldn't it be the opposit?
The soil contains free potassium and potassium bound in minerals. The free potassium is consumed by plants. When there is a fire the plants burn and release most of the potassium into the air. The ashes contain potassium but much less than the biomass before. So the sum of soil plus ashes contains less potassium than the sum of soil and plants before. The potassium has vanished into thin air, the soil is depleted of free potassium. On such areas, depleted by fire, bracket fern finds a niche. The fern is able to gather potassium from the minerals and contains large amounts of potassium that adds to the soil when the fern rots.
As I understood, when the fire goes on the potassium translocates in the plant to its top so most of it is incinerated. Only a few of it remains in the form of ash.
the ashes left over from a fire are highly water soluble.
so when it rains, the deposited potassium is leached away.
@@Moicanita No, just.....no.
@@teebob21 care to explain and add info, please, then? Thank you.
So what do you do with this info? Do you break up the ferns as mulch and give it back to the soil? Or leave the ferns as their very presence is adding potassium back into the soil already?
you input for output. if you want to turn the land over quickly, add potassium, otherwise like the bracken do its work.
It's just to demonstrate that bracken can thrive in K depleted soils. Seeing bracken indicates low K in the ground. You can chop and drop, or harvest and make compost teas with it to utilise the K. But if you prefer it as mulch it loses K value and becomes a carbon source instead
@@freedom_bornwell thank you that explains his context alil better
Same for the dandelions flowers. If you see them, then soil is low on microelements. With their deep roots, they extract elements from the depth of earth.
@@iIiWARHEADiIiyep, dandelion is an indicator of low calcium, it's tapping it deep down and trying to bring it up to the surface
nearly all the forest in area was burned 150-100 years ago to make pastures, and we do now have a lot of ferns everywhere, i never made the association before
Bracken is at home in very, very wet climates that will never see a brush fire. Look at Wales and Ireland,
So does the fern (or a symbiotic microorganism) fix potassium in the soil or is the concentrated potassium just slowly released as old plant material decomposes?
Ye they didn't explain at all guess I gotta research now
Both... and more
I need you to step in when my young child asks me questions and only responds to my answers with, “why?”
So would bracken be good to make a liquid tea/ fertiliser then ?
I make my own plant food with banana peels!
1 peel = 73mg of potassium.
So, how much potassium is in
1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket?
Then chop'em up,
then put in blender until a paste.
I end up with 5+ gallons of " banana slurry ".
But without accurately knowing the total amount of potassium,
all I can do is water it down to safe levels.
This for the compost pile, &/or tree food, ect.
(I get the banana peels from a bakery that makes banana bread
twice a month..)
But this stuff works great in the garden.
It really shows!😂
I simply love this guy. I have watched complete video of him on weeds. Want to know more😊
My man out there teaching kids about weed
Any plants that help restore selenium in a grazing operation?
So.. burning of plants that contain potassium... depletes the soil of pottassium?
If I remember correctly, it is best to mulch up the bracken ferns where they stand in order to add the most potassium into the soil. Is this correct?
Preferably dried for at least a fortnight ofc. But then it becomes more of a carbon source than a K source
@freedom_born where does the potassium go? You're not making sense. Lol. If it's brown it's dried when you dry something it doesn't lose potassium neither does it aquire more carbon. Dear god.
@@Padraigp
Lol it's called carbon sequestering. Mulch doesn't uptake nutrients. Once it's dead it starts degrading.
@freedom_born yes planta have carbon but they don't get more carbon because they go brown ya divit! Lol! Woody plants have more carbona and tend to be brown but taking a nitrogen rich plant Ann's waiting for it to go brown isn't sequestered any carbon or creating any carbon...dear god basic science 101. And where is the potassium disappearing to? Lol nonsense.
@@Padraigp
It's decaying material, it degrades and depletes it's K source and becomes a sequester of carbon.
It's not alive to uptake K anymore. The nutrients available in the mulch slowly start decomposing with the material itself.
❤️ this short with the guy
What is in Maderia tubers ? Im wondering if its nitrogen...
Really interesting. So you're explaining why we have terrible problems with bracken in the UK? They burn the plants off the hills so grass will grow for the sheep, and bracken soon grows
I've been trying not to mow over my dandelions..... it is an indicator of low calcium, it's tapping it deep down and trying to bring it up to the surface.
I like ferns so now I know how to encourage them in
We have that Malunggay tree ( moringga) here in the Philippines
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It used as a gold indicator also
It's not bad thing if you like ferns . The trees are going to make use of that it's gone so quickly but there's still nitrogen iron all other sorts of micro nutrients that are left for plants to use
"Element scale".
And it all goes downhill from there.
Wow. Ty
I had no idea that wasnt weed behind u
Bracken ferns also cause Bowel Cancer if ingested.
True. Studies have shown they cause cancer in sheep and cattle
It burns ,but you can make lots of things except fire ,not just fire ,u can sell it for instance ,u can remove stumps yeah ,and u can make hno3 nitric acid for chemichal reactions , or for gold recovery fro. Old comouters yeaaaah .
Also the secretion is growth inhibiting and stoos germination of other plants, never put this stuff in your compost but the ashs from this stuff is amazing yp to 15 percent pk higher then any other plant that i know of
So what about the ancient woods near me thats by a river and has a fuck ton by the water?, when was the fire?
Wouldn't that be short supply?
Shit 🤦♂️ over here thinking ash is a great source of potassium
It is
It is... He just said the rain washes it away but I think it's bs probably gets tied up to other nutrients in soil first
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Now I know where one of lethal company's most feared enemy comes from. Thank you.
_"K on the element scale."_ ?
You mean the periodic table?
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Wow...
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Is that canabis in the background?
How can we confirm this? Is it only one element left in the content both in the air and ash? Cmon we gotta have a way to verify all this and even if it is right, do plants only use one element that we should care so much about just that purified element? Fertilizing exists even in the Bible but I don’t think they used Monsanto grow for it, would be interesting to see what the Jews used in those times and try that versus a control to see if it grows best
Now tell us about the radioactive cesium 137, which your body thinks is potassium, because they are from the same family of elements. That burns off too, but in Japan they burned over a billion pounds of tsunami debris in incinerators across the country, to supply energy in remote areas, while the nuclear reactors were shut down.
"in very short demand?" you mean very short supply?
You mean short supply, high demand.
Short supply not short demand
In short demand? What the fugg? So they like potassium free soil but they aquite potassium? Where the fugg do they get the potassium from if theres no potassium in theh soil? There is not potassium in the air. ??? This is mental.
Not something to eat. They grow everywhere.
So the potassium is replenished in the soil seasonally?
This is incorrect. After a fire potassium is left behind as carbonate and other salts, these are not volatile and remain in the ash. That's why potassium is named as it's found in pot ash. This guy is full of crap.
Yes and the point is that the ash is washed away quickly by the rain.
1. That is not what he's saying in this video. He says that potassium burns away in the fire which is incorrect.
2. Potassium salts are highly soluble in water. After rain they dissolve and permeate into the soil, enriching the soil with potassium. So what you're saying is also incorrect.
Is there any schools, colleges or universities that teache permaculture?
Only the same ones that teach astrology, homeopathy and Scientology
@@gentlebreeze6414 so you say it's lie? But somethings worked with me
That voice...Baldrick?
total BS
Absolutely. This guy knows NOTHING about the chemistry of Pottasium.
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Thank you
So how long till you don't see the bracken? Im guessing once its gone that land is back to health. child me calling this plant. the Jurassic park plant.
Ferns are an integral part of every ecosystem in the world, they're always among the first to settle on new volcanic islands, after fires, or any other upheaval.
They are a vital part of many forest and jungle biomes where they live in the undergrowth under the canopy, but in sunny areas they can get outcompeted by taller grasses or flowers
Very deep knowledge
Ehh he was wrong about everything
When you say they "harvest potassium" what do you mean?
Make fires illegal .
Way more potassium in meat.
Hmmm interesting 🤔
You contradict yourself...
Sorry, cant agree that this is generally accurate. It may be locally accurate in some areas, but the fells of Cumbria are rife with Bracken, and Bracken is very common in open terrain there; and we don't get many Fell fires in Cumbria.