Bottom of Bowl Gouge - Discover
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- I demonstrate the usefulness of a specially ground bottom of bowl gouge. I explain the grind that makes it easier to clean up the bottom of a bowl, especially on deeper bowls where you can’t ride the bevel with your regular bowl gouge.
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Very good video, Mike. That’s the best explanation of a boo Tom gouge that I’ve ever seen (actually it’s the only explanation of a bottom gouge grind that I’ve ever seen). I think you forgot the link to the Robohippy platform.
Thanks for that reminder. I will fix it now.
Buon Giorno Sig. Mike nonostante non comprenda la sua lingua ma guardando e riguardando il suo video si nota la sua maestria e il suo modo di lavorare apprendendo le tecniche di lavoro e di affilatura. Grazie e buon tutto. un Italiano.
Grazie
Just got a bottom feeder gouge the other day because of everything you mention. Can't wait to start using it on all the bowls I've rough turned. I'm new to turning and really enjoy and appreciate your videos. Especially the bloopers and catches. They help show what to watch for, and let you know you don't always have to fear the catch. Thanks Mike.
Thanks for your comment. The American Assciation has some great resources on their website for novice turners. Click here to explore www.woodturner.org/?page=LearningTracksLP
Good video and I like the lesson on grinding the profile.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks Mike. Appreciate your tips and advice. 😊🇦🇺
Glad it was helpful!
@@MikePeaceWoodturning I like all your videos. Please keep them coming. (Y'all come back now! 😁 👌 👍)
Great explanation, Mike. I’ve been pondering the bottom feeder. Like you, I don’t want to have a large collection of specialty tools, but you’ve sold me on this one. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful. Cutting corners on an occasional tool makes more sense than a high use tool.
Hallo Mike,
I was happy to see that you took over my proposal to demonstrate the use of the „bottom feeder“ in this video. Thank you very much for that.
It is very informative for me and I am sure that I will profit a lot from it in my projects to come. The comments by other woodturners show that it was an important issue.
I‘m looking forward to seeing how you turn a „stacker“, a suggestion I made in one of my comments.
H. P. From Germany
H. P. , thanks for that suggestion. Stacker is still on my to do list!
Thanks Mike great information I will keep my eyes open for a used tool to make one of these I was having the very trouble last week👍👍
Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Good info. The Roborest is very accurate and a great time saver. Off to grind a bottom feeder. Thanks.
Another great video with good explanations and demonstration. You make your videos very easy to follow and understand.
Good information and nice demonstration on the use of the bottom feeder gouge,
I like the idea of using a less costly tool when its only needed now and then.
I have been wanting to get a bottom feeder setup. Now knowing you use the Benjamin I will probably go that route.
Gary
Thank you, Thank you, thank you! I'm having this exact problem as I make a deep salad bowl. And now I understand those racks of seemingly identical tools!
Thank you again Mike, start to finish - you always deliver good, needed advise. New life with a purpose, for an old gouge. Been using scrapers and this is exactly what I needed with my segmented urns and jars. Thanks again.
Glad it was useful.
Very clearly described. Thanks for the helpful video Mike.
Some excellent information Mike, very well explained and demonstrated.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your support.
Good point on NOT using the arm to make a 65 degree or more cutting edge. Wish I would have seen your video before I tried the arm method. The gouge slipped down my perfect CBN wheel and gouged the heck out of my wheel before throwing the tool back past me. I'll never use the arm again with a tool handle in the pocket. This can be very dangerous and destructive to the grinding wheel. The platform rest is the only way that I will go in the future. Thank you for your video.
Thanks for making it real, George.
Great explanation Mike👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
this is a super video,
I allways did wonder how to start using this kind of gauge….. thank you very much.
I like the idea of this for when I do turn a bowl. I will have to see about regrinding one of my bowl gouge's (bought a set of three on sale a while ago). One of the "better" / more experienced turner's in my local club shaped all three to how he grinds his, but I may have to regrind one to this sort of grind.
It takes a while to settle in on the grinds you like. It is a personal thing. Long swept back grinds need some experience.
Thanks , Mike. I was just thinking I needed to look up how to make a bottom feeder, you saved me from Google and getting too bogged down in unrelated videos. 😄
Thanks Mike, well done. I appreciate the sharpening tips as well as use suggestions
Very welcome
Thanks Mike for the great instructions.
I appreciate your support.
Good tips! I wish I had seen this last night, when i encountered this very thing.
Great video, Mike, thank you, I am still struggling with this tool, I have a good grind on it and take very light cuts, yet I am getting too many catches on deeper stuff, to the point where I'm getting "the yips"...gotta keep facing it and somehow improve my technique...thanks again, excellent presentation as always.
I wonder if you are using it face up as a scraper and not riding the bevel?
thanks Mike, lots of information well presented... I'm a beginner having fun, learning something new every day...
Great to hear! Safe turning.
Thanks Mike! Appreciating it from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada :)
Thanks for your comment Stephen.
Great post and a better tip!
SAFE TURNING!!
Great info Mike thanks for sharing
Thanks for the tip sir .
Great info Mike. After a year off no turning due to illness. I have found that I have lost some of my control with the turning gouges and I have been making to many light shades . II will start to use the bottom feeder grind again and see if that make a difference. I use to uses the bottom feeder bevel grind in the past but somewhere along the road I decreased the angel of my bevil grinds .I hope it will stop me going through the bottom of my bowls .It is very frustrating to come back to wood turning after am extended time away from it only to find that most of my mussel memory has gone ,it's like having to start all over again. I will let you know if my light shade production drops. Mike thank you
P.S Mike I would like to see if you have some tips on keeping the thickness of my bowls more even .
John horsfall, I think the key is using calipers to periodically check the wall thickness. If it is not a huge bowl the one from Harbor Freight can work. The other key is constantly monitoring how deep you are going with a shop made bowl depth gage. Go back and rewatch this video czcams.com/video/mA4L2_4mmh0/video.html
ok i suspect i now know why i can never get a decent bottom on bowls, very useful video thanks
mike this is really what I need,,thank you ever so much for this video,,may I ask what tools (brand name) that you prefer,,,i having been using hurricane from amazon,,but im sure the others must be better,,,and I don't know if you have made a video on the tools,,but im sure others would like to know what you perfer
Turning tools from the USA or Canada will all have a very high quality steel. Name brand Tools from England like, Crown, Henry Taylor, Sorby etc tend to be much higher qualiity than those from China. I like Doug Thompson tools that come unhandled; Tremendous steel quality at a reasonable price if you are going to make your own handles which is not hard. In general, avoid cheap Chinese tools except on very occassional use tools. You will pay more for tools from Sheffield England than from China. You get what you pay for. Be willing to pay more for your main, every day tools.
mike his was really a good video,,i need one of these gouges,,,do you recommend any or have a preference or make your own,,
There are lots of great bowl gouges out there. I make do with an inexpensive Benjamin Best as it does not get a great deal of use and I had it on hand. I would prefer a 5/8" with a C flute.
Hi Mike. Thanks for another very informative video. Question though, what advantage does the "U" shaped flute have over the "V" or parabolic shaped flute for a micro bevel gouge?
Good question! A flatter more uniform shaped bevel that is easier to move across the bottome of a bowl.
Great video Mike, thank you. Could you advise a low cost bowl gouge and demonstrate how to make it into a bottom feeder? Thank you, Phil
Mine is a 5/8" from PSI available here amzn.to/3oMpwbG I described the angle and how to sharpen in the video. Was there something unclear?
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Video was great, it's when I went to buy thr gouge on amazon it looked like it had a longer nose. so you only ground it to the same angle it comes with or do I need to change it. Sorry new to this.
@@philipguarino524 It probably does come with more of a swept back design. You need to change it by sharpening with a platform and not a jig as I demonstrated.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Thanks Mike I'll try. Phil
Hi Mike, sorry for my english. I'm a woodturner beginner to hollow bowl. I like very much your video but I don't understand wich the différence between your two gouges. And what is the name of this gouge. I hope you understand me to my questions. Thank's.
Size is the big difference. One is 3/8" in diameter and the other is 5/8". The small one has a rounder more open flute by Thompson tools. The other is more of a Vee grind and is cheap Chinese HSS by Benjamin Best tools.
mike can you reccomend a bottom bowl gouge to buy,,
I guess it depends on your budget. I would get a 5/8" with an open flute. Being frugal and I do not use this tool a lot, I picked the cheapest BG I could find, a Benjamin Best. It is mostly about the grind. This is the one I use amzn.to/3vjY3XR Much better and much more expensive would be this one carterandsontoolworks.com/collections/signature-mike-mahoney-tools/products/the-bottom-feeder
Doug Thompson has one that is 3/4 thompsonlathetools.com/product/34-bottom-bowl-gouge-2/ Even more expensive but probably an excellent tool if you can justify the cost.. This may be a more affordable option better than my BB www.thewoodturningstore.com/hurricane-htt-102-hss-5-8-bowl-gouge-1-2-flute/?aff=7
Robohippy's website has "expired". Where else could one go to find a tool rest like his?
I have heard someone else is going to start selling rests with his design. That is all I know.
I don't use Amazon.
Any other suggestions??
Lots of woodturning vendors out there on line with bowl gouges. You can also buy the one I use from Penn State Industries or Peachtree Woodworking.
Mike, buddy, you have a white-board right there... Why hold a piece of paper? Ha ha ha. You do You buddy, there is still a valuable lesson to learn here. Thank you.
It is in a terrible location. I don't have any free wall space. I need to come up with a solution because a picture is worth a 1000 words.