I'm a broke college student and I live in a 3rd world country, so a lot of the products you recommend just aren't accessible to me, and even if they were, I simply can't afford them. DR Dray's product recommendations however tend to be on products that are affordable, and accessible to me (brands like Cerave, La Roche Posay, Avéne, Neutrogena...) and they tend to generally work. What I like about Dr Dray's videos is other than the clear fact that they are educational and informative, she also favours doing the bare minimum to one's skin and she doesn't push using excessive amounts of products. I guess my main point is that while heeding ethical considerations is great and noble, you should also consider the fact that a lot of the products you show just aren't affordable nor accessible to some of your viewers.
The cost of a lot of cruelty-free products is prohibitive for a lot of people. It's awesome that Dray makes an effort to point out basic and inexpensive alternatives. I use a few things from the Ordinary that I really like. I don't know if that's an option for you but if not we do the best we can with what we have until things start to change :)
@@kaleidoscopeeyes1184 the thing is some of the ordinary products are in their purest form and cause breakouts for a lot of people and some are not recommended for dark skin people.Just watch Dr.Vanita Rattan's review on the ordinary.
Because of all these CZcams self made skincare gurus I never bought the Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash with 2% Salicylic acid. They all said it was striping and too harsh to be used even on oily skin. Bruh after about ten "gentle/hydrating" washes for months, I finally risked buying the Neutrogena, And boy how wrong I was, it worked like a charm. My never ending toxic relationship with acne came to an end. I still have issues because of my hormones but it has done A LOT! that's when I realised all money wasted on ethical, sustainable, fair trade etc etc was doing nothing for me if it doesn't suit me. And guess who recommended the Neutrogena one 🤗 yes Dr.Dray.
I think Cassandra is pointing out more the lack of option for cruelty free, like, Dr Dray is recommrnding non cruelty free, but could ALSO give cruelty free option, but isn't.
You can't critisise someone's skincare routine for not being cruelty free. That's like reviewing a chef's recipe and saying 'I don't like it because it' s not vegan'. Okay... But they never said it was? You didn't talk about the actual food at all. You can say you'd prefer cruelty free. But that's a lifestyle choice. It has no relevance to the actual food/skincare (btw, I'm an advocate for cruelty free, I'm just pointing out the obvious flaw in that argument).
Being vegan is an ethical lifestyle not a diet. She should not claim she’s vegan if she doesn’t use vegan products. She is then plant based not vegan. This is coming from someone who is not vegan ☺️ I can just see how Cassandra as an actual Vegan would be a little annoyed by it because she frequently states she’s vegan to her audience but then contradicts her message by constantly using non vegan products
Yeah, also, Dr Dray is under no obligation to use “cruelty free” products (especially as that term is quite loosely defined) so this video is coming across as rude and entitled. I like her other videos but come on, berating people for not accomodating your preferences is ridiculous and turns even your audience off.
@Yamnihc Ebmilaw I had to look this up to know if you are correct bc I'm not an expert and... "While both focus on the skin, dermatologists are medical doctors that specialize in skin health and treatment. Estheticians, also called skincare specialists, focus primarily on the appearance of the skin. While estheticians certainly help their clients maintain healthy skin, they don’t have the medical training or knowledge to advise beyond esthetics"
Lol not all doctors are equal,nor clear of criticism. But way to go in your poorly thought out comment; hopefully you are never subjected to a bad doctor
most people use too much shampoo/conditioner anyway- a good bottle of shampoo with vitamins and everything should be at least $25 and should last you 3-6 months depending on how oily your hair gets naturally etc
@@sammi_spencer that may be for your hair but everyone has different hair types. Some people have more hair or less hair, some thicker and some thinner, some curly and some straight. My conditioner and shampoo would never last me that long because of how much hair I have and it’s texture. You’re experiences don’t reflect everyone’s
@@sammi_spencer I will use as much product on my body that I paid for as much as I want. That's just me. Seems to be a lot of know it alls on here who don't exactly know it all to begin with.
Seasoned professional? Where are her degrees? Where is her practice and how are her patients reviews of her? How often does she see them? If she cant be transparent about her practice (which I doubt she even has) then she needs to stop making ridiculous claims. Dr Pimple popper is completely open about everything, from the schools she went to, the degrees she has, and even featured patients (with their consent). She's an influencer with a medical degree (and there's plenty of those all over CZcams in every field you can imagine) 🤣
@@JohnDoe-xr4bg exactly! she is a pro-ana site and today's video is about celery juice a known laxative. I cannot find her practice and no reviews either.
Aestheticians need to stop doing these videos on dermatologists. I’m a molecular biologist and I trained intensely for 8 years to do my job and have multiple years of experience. When I finished my degree I felt very confident and qualified. After my masters, I realised that I wasn’t as knowledgeable as I thought I was. Now with a doctorate I’ve never been more humble. I’m as qualified as one can get in the industry and I realise now that we as people know very little. I remember my lecturer in the first year saying “you will become a scientist when you realise how much you don’t know. What I lacked after my undergraduate degree was critical thinking and the ability to apply science outside of the box. That’s the sense I get with aestheticians when I see videos of them criticising Dermatologists or claiming that they are a in different field. Sometimes people don’t know what they don’t know hence why they are overly confident to criticise people who are more qualified than they are without critical thinking.
The criticism was mostly ethical I don't see any criticism from a scientific perspective, Mrs Bankson merely spoke about including cruelty free options in Dr. Dray's videos, which is reasonable and does not challenge any scientific or medical position Dr. Dray has expressed. Mrs Bankson is well aware and has mentioned before that she is not in a position to challenge Dr. Dray's medical knowledge, and she never has before. Did you actually *watch* the video?
Dr Dray literally saved my skin! My skin is better now in my 40s than when I was in my 20s…I’m a mom of 5 so I can’t spend 100s on my skin care so I only buy products she recommends
One of the things I love about Dr. Dray is she openly states she won't do reaction videos because she doesn't feel it's right to judge or comment on someone else's routine. It's probably part of the oath: First do no harm.
lol that is so passive aggressive, I'm sure her oath also applies when Dray is selling me headbands. She's more of a influencer than an actual doctor. I'd love to know how her practice is doing, what her patients reviews of HER are, and does she even work as a doctor or is her real job CZcams?
@@nataliev7070 oh? By all means link her practice, if she's going to be waving her medical license like it's gospel then we all need to see what type of doctor she is, her patient reviews on her and beside manners. If she wants to keep that private then she can have a seat, because Dr. Pimple popper is very open about her practice and even featured patients of hers (with their consent)
With the eye sunscreen, she said she likes it because it acts as a concealer as well. Dr. Dray does not support the use of eye creams in general if you watch her videos.
I agree! Dr.Dray does mention in her videos that she uses tinted sunscreens in place of other makeup like foundation and concealer. People should not get so triggered by the mere mention of the word "eye cream".
I’m so annoyed at the fact she made those hand gestures mocking Dr. Dray (even if she wasn’t actually). She obviously was not listening to her or watched the rest of the video to make that comment. She was suggesting it as a concealer and a preventative, in no way do eye creams get rid of dark circles or wrinkles but that’s not what Dr. Dray was saying or vocalized. Like really she had to make those faces and then be like “she’s super right! But I’m surprised she chose that! Haha 🙂” came off super wrong
obviously this esthetician who studied 6 mos to work her job is antagonizing a dermatologist to get views. since we are commenting on her video, she is getting the attention she wants for her channel
I respect Dr. Dray because while she may be vegan she doesn’t push that on us and uses products that work for her and make sense. Just because your vegan and want cruelty free doesn’t mean everyone does or can afford it. We all have our own perspective, she isn’t wrong in using what she likes just as you are not wrong for using what you like. Skincare is not one size fits all.
Also "Cruelty Free" is NOT regulated or enforced by anyone. Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. Sadly, the FDA does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label so companies can use them in whichever way they want. There's a good article on this, look for _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_ by Suzana Rose
Lol talking about veganism and cruelty free options isn’t “pushing a narrative” on to someone. It’s speaking up about an issue that’s needs to be talked about. Lol
Hate to break to you but it is actually. Like the age old saying "you don't need to ask someone if their vegan because they will tell you!" @@rachemeatte6727
I'll take Dr. Dray's advice any day. She breaks down individual products that are affordable and keeps it simple. She is more than qualified as a dermatologist.
Dear Cassandra, 1. Dr. Dray has mentioned several times that she only has a plant-based diet and never identifies herself as a true vegan. Why does she have to recommend vegan alternatives for products when she doesn't really identify herself as a vegan? (No wonder we vegans get so much hate.) 2. Dr. Dray has already said in a few of her videos that - according to her, there isn't enough evidence to prove that chemical sunscreen filters actually damage coral reefs and that several of those studies actually have massive loopholes. Hence, she doesn't feel the need to stop using filters touted as being dangerous for the reefs. 3. Dr. Dray has also repeatedly mentioned that just because she's using a product currently doesn't mean she would recommend it to others. She gets sent a shit load of products to try (like all CZcamsrs do) by companies, subscribers, in subscription boxes, etc. and she tries to use up as many products as possible because just throwing it away for not being vegan/free of irritating ingredients/unethical is wasteful and way worse for the environment than using a product/brand you don't really agree with. These are just my two cents - no offense intended. I really didn't want to comment but I felt like I needed to this time.
Also Dr Dray has done at least 2 videos where she boxes up heaps of 'gently' used & brand new skincare & she sends it to women who are living in shelters because of various kinds of abuse & she briefly talks about each brand as she's packing it. I found them to be very interesting even though I'm in the UK & many of them aren't available here (or weren't then). But how nice for those women getting some fab skincare to use & call their own. Some walk in with nothing but the clothes on their backs. She's very kind & thoughtful.
@@junedaisy707 Not totally right. I actually went back & watched one & she put things in that she had a few of & said she would buy some more for herself but let's face it a huge amount of women buy skincare & have no idea of the ingredients, they just go by what the assistant says to them or the way the brand has designed the containers. It's a lot better than just throwing it all away. What would you honestly do if you were in her situation?
This was such a respectful comment in a sea of rabid dr stay stans lol It's definitely more ethical to just use products that you have vs. throwing them out, however she's still contributing to the sales of a product that is not cruelty free or vegan, and people take Dr dray's word for gospel sometimes. So I can understand why a vegan would find that unethical. Overall imo Cassandra has a point, if Dr Dray could at least just recommend a cruelty free option next to the products she uses and recommends it would be nice and helpful for her viewers! I'm not even a vegan or strictly CF user but there are options out there and it'd be nice to see a prominent skincare figure be a bit more inclusive!
@@THExBREAKFASTxMONKEY I'm a vegan myself but personally don't see any need for a non-vegan dermatologist to go out of her way to use/recommend vegan alternatives in her own skincare routine. She's a medical professional and can be expected to recommend products that are tried and tested on herself or patients - instead of random vegan options she doesn't even use or believe in. This might just be me but when an incredible dermatologist goes out of her way to offer the world free skincare advice, I gladly take what I can get (and implement as per my own strict vegan standards) instead of questioning her PERSONAL lifestyle choices and morals. It would be extremely hypocritical of me to expect a non-vegan doctor to provide vegan options when the information is being provided free of cost. I would only feel ENTITLED to vegan options if I were paying a dermatologist to recommend them.
Dr dray’s whole platform is helping people find effective beauty products that everyone can afford and find at local retail outlets. Her platform is not cruelty free or “clean”, so if that’s really important to you she’s probably not for you. She has done several cruelty free videos, but it’s not her focus. Her focus is fragrance free, non-irritating formulas and the importance of sunscreen. I think it’s a little unfair to criticize her so intensely for something that just isn’t her platform.
But she’s vegan, and this is HER routine, not just a recommendation video. Just sounds hypocritical to be using products from brands that literally test on animals then claim to be vegan. I understand why some people would use them, price wise etc, but I’m sure she’s rich enough to afford more ethic products.
@@mandarina4157 i agree that it is hypocritical of Dr Dray from a personal standpoint, but her channel is really about education and showing how almost anyone can purchase good quality skin care products at an affordable price. Personally I find it refreshing that she doesn’t push her veganism onto everyone watching her channel though I’ve noticed in more recent videos she always includes a cruelty-free option at the end, usually at a higher price point. Also, if you watch this video you’ll see that it’s not just “oh she’s being a little hypocritical here” it’s a constant eye roll of criticism. I personally found it off-putting, even though I try to choose cruelty-free products myself.
You literally chose “The ONLY ONE person” on YT who is legite and helping people FOR FREE with REAL CERTIFIED skincare advice. Whatever you thought you were doing, its not cool.
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳 Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour? So... 10 times a day? Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@a.c.m.. oh so its true that spf 50 protects you just for an hour? But then would you agree about applying sunscreen every hour of your day? I mean .... That would mean if you go to visit a friend just during the morning, you will have to stop every hour and apply cream on your face😅 Lets sy you go out from 10 to 2. Its already 4.times. Entire day could get to 15 times. I am not sure how healthy our skin would be with this among of chemicals every hour. I agree with making cream which arent natural hundred per cent but sunscreen every hours feels too much like going agaisnt nature to me.
This is my biggest issues with the vegan community, you’re never vegan enough. It gets really annoying fast hearing ‘not cruelty free’ 1000x times. What does that even mean? Cruelty towards the animals? The workers in the factories? The workers who mine the raw material? There’s no way that stream is completely‘cruelty free’. :S Also like others already pointed out these items are super expensive, cheaper alternatives are a must.
Yeah, absolutely. Hearing her berate D Dray for what? Not accomodating her personal cruelty free preferences? Is ridiculous. You can try to spread the message but straight up berating someone for not following it comes across as rude and entitled.
It is also ironic that most vegan(not tested on animals) products seems to be more costly compared to the products that aren't vegan when people say left and right that currently we have enough technology to make products without having to test on animals. You'd think the process of testing the products on animals will take more time and money and thus will increase the pricing, but that doesn't happen. In addition, I have to agree with the cruelty free aspect of the term. There really isn't a clear guide to what it means legally and I personally will be disappointed if cruelty free only applies animals and not people cuz news flash, even if animals are important as well and your pets are too, human lives and the human friends you have ought to be more important.
Imagine that instead of animals, these were human babies... would you be saying the same? "oh how annoying you're already not eating the freaking babies, just let people be cruel and experiment on babies in peace" i bet you wouldn't :)
Lorena Felipe Rodríguez yes, but I find your argument invalid because it assumes I’d care about the animals. Like a great deal of vegans/animal activist you push the ethical side as though everyone has the dame set of ideals. You don’t have to repeat yourself 60000 times, we get it. This reply doesn’t answer my question though. What does cruelty free mean? Everything sold in the EU is already not tested on animals btw, which is a step in the good direction. But people in poor countries still suffer in the great scheme of things/stream of production, are they allowed to suffer?
Honestly, I decided to watch this out of curiosity to see how you broke down an actual DERMATOLOGIST skin care routine. The reason so many people love & respect Dr. Dray is her ability to recommend so many affordable skincare products that actually work. Her channel has grown exponentially in a short time for that reason. Unfortunately your recommendations are generally very pricey and based only on your ethical views. It is your channel and therefore your choice as to what to promote. As one of the few actual DERMATOLOGIST on CZcams many of us love her advice on skincare!
She really could have recommended more affordable products, but there are some cruelty free options available in stores like Walmart and Target at reasonable prices.
Lol the audacity "I've been in the industry for 10 years"vs an actual medical professional who got a degree that took 6 years, did 1 year of internship in different hospital departments, 1 or more years of residency and 4 years of training before even becoming a dermatologist. And then add all the years of medical practice.
@@NoraHusstad She means that Cassandra is only an esthetician and went to esthetician school while Dr. Dray is an actual doctor. Dr. Dray is a dermatologist and went to medical school for many years to get a degree as a dermatologist. And Cassandra has the audacity to say that she knows better than Dr. Dray about skincare, an actual expert with a degree in it.
She’s an MD you are not . She has went through 4 years of college , 4 years if medical school , 4 years of residency , followed by a fellowship in dermatology . 13-15 years of schooling and training .
THANK YOU that doesn’t include the additional years of experience she has in the field outside of fellowship. And Cassandra has “10 years in the field”. The expertise doesn’t come close
@raymond ron it’s such a valid point. It’s such a deeper understanding of cellular biology, organic chem and molecular science that an estheticiansimply does not get in the small amount of schooling . It’s a difference and valid point. Doctors aren’t perfect nor always right. But still an astronomical difference
Dr. Dray has given me hope for my skin. It’s affordable for me because I am a single mom I am a six. She is a dermatologist that has saved my skin and my money.
The more I see of Cassandra the more I am starting to become frustrated at the gimmicky push she gives for “cruelty free.” If people would please look into “cruelty free” they would see it almost does not exist. Also, what do you take issue with? Treatment of workers in factories? The workers who mine the raw materials? Where does cruelty end? There’s no way that products are 100% cruelty free. Or do you take issue with animal testing? Which is NOT how these “influencers” make it out to be. As a researcher, and specifically a neuroscientist, from a safety standpoint you want products that will not be harmful in the long run. If not for animal testing, we would not have the studies that have been published indicating which ingredients are harmful to humans whether it be topically, or carcinogens, etc. Also, research performed at academic institutions or otherwise are performed according to IACUC standards where a group of researchers, veterinarians, and everyday citizens will review the research protocols that are proposed to ensure animals will not be exposed to undue suffering, meaning care is taken to minimize any pain or suffering to the animals. If there is pain or suffering to the animals and the research is not impactful, the studies do not happen because the IACUC protocols are not approved. Also, as a researcher who performed neuroscience research on rodents, at our AALAC accredited institution, veterinarians check the animals daily to ensure they are healthy, are not exhibiting pain, etc. Any rat that is exhibiting any health issues are treated appropriately. Also animals are used for as many studies as possible to maximize research and minimize the number of animals used. There are guidelines that are followed by the institution with the care of animals, and if they are not followed, the veterinarian will report the researcher to the NIH, and their NIH funding and ability to conduct research will be revoked. Researchers cannot get away with unapproved harming of animals without serious repercussions, and there are many checks and balances in place, so people should educate themselves and realize that this fear mongering whether it is by influencers, brands or even PETA (don’t get me started on how unethical this organization/thing is) is typically a marketing/sales ploy.
Someone with a brain and actual knowledge. Please, speak of this more online because there aren't many ways for people to know this. Start a blog or something similar where you share this info! Greenwashing and marketing ploys have gone too far.
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳 Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour? So... 10 times a day? Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 who? sorry i didn't watch the video lol. but that's not how it works, it is recommended to reapply all sunscreen of all spf levels around every 2 hours when outside. when indoors, try to go for that point, but it's more reasonable to reapply every 3-5 hours indoors.
Notice how what she used is very affordable and what you recommended was much more expensive. I understand that you have your morals and ethics but I think Dr. Dray was focusing more on the fact that her viewers might be on a budged and can’t drop 30 dollars on each product
This !! I think the reason why everyone is coming for her neck in the comments is because she’s speaking from a place of moral superiority and it’s gross lol.
And also, most of the products Cassandra are hard to find in my country or 3x more expensive, for example, the ordinary is generally a lot more expensive in my country, their peeling solution costs like 7.5 dollar last time I checked, while in my country the cheapest I’ve been able to find the product is at almost 25 dollars. And that’s just without taking in to account the fact that in my country the minimal wage is of around 250 dollar per month and most people don’t even reach that minimum wage. So while I appreciate what she stands for and while I try to use mostly cruelty free products, we shouldn’t judge people for using them, no one knows what the other is living through.
as much as i love Cassandra, she often refers to products that are $30-$40 dollars as "affordable"... like girl... I cant even afford the product if its $20!!! it has to be 15 dollars or less, for my income...
@Noor and for someone that makes such a fuss about morals and transparancy perhaps she should mention that she does make a commission of people that buy when they follow the link
If you wanted to make a video about cruelty free skincare you didn’t have to drag Dr. Dray into this. The fact that you started off the video saying she pisses you off lmao girl so unnecessary. Your privilege pisses me off.
Are you implying Dr Dray is not privileged? What? This isn’t punching down... and every video on this channel is about cruelty free skincare. There’s no access barrier for Dr Dray to access humane products. Rich people shouldn’t be buying the products she is.
I never once Implied Dr. Dray wasn’t privileged she’s a rich white woman but she also makes lots of videos on affordable skincare products. That’s not saying she doesn’t buy expensive products or only features affordable products. But doesn’t make reaction videos calling out people who don’t use all vegan products. Some of us can barely afford to go to target and buy cera ve.
ugh right! I was amazed at how proud of herself she was at "cruelty free" options to help animals but completely ignored ppl like me who are literally poor. The fact that she has the option to put her "money where her morals are" is a PRIVILEGE. And shes literally shaming anyone who doesn't have that privilege.
I've been using mineral oil (baby oil) as a makeup remover for years and it is the best EVER. It removes waterproof mascara effortlessly and my stubborn foundation so easily. And I use a salicylic acid foundation so you know that stuff is like a tattoo on your face lol. But I will give micellar water a try since it's popular. I've used countless makeup removers and nothing holds a candle to mineral oil so far. Of course, it's only amazing as a first step before cleansing, it really lifts everything from the skin.
I don’t understand why these videos of people coming for Dr Dray keep being recommended to me. Dr Dray is professional, kind, drama free and honest. She doesn’t need to bash any other CZcamsr in order to get views. Keep it classy Cassandra.
How is it privilege and classism? The products she recommends are usually affordable, and not tested on animals, unlike.... And classism?? lmao chiile, I would love your perspective on this xD
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳 Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour? So... 10 times a day? Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 I get what you mean. However, she does mention that, as long as you’re wearing some protection, it’s better than nothing. Reason being why it’s good to reapply is because when you move around your sweat may rub it off, and it comes off over time. You can reapply whenever you deem necessary. She does it more frequently, I think because she may be somewhat OCD, but don’t quote me on that.
@@aerialtaprootanalysis6117 thanks a lot for your answer! Yes to me if you reapply thre e to four times a day its fine but more than this , I feel it would get to an unhealthy level of obsession, as the sun is what makes this earth exist and its everywhere and it represents life. I am a red hair so I am in total favour of being protected. But reaplyimg every hour of your life.... That too me is bringing it too far. Also she doesn't mention that but sunscreen chemicals can create free radicals too. Like... Not if you apply it three times a day. But if you constantly apply it, it seems it can weaken your skin and create free radicals as much as when you are in the sun.
@@YFL.111 that’s a good point, what you’re saying makes lots of sense. I think avoiding being in the sun for tooooo long is good. Whereas when u spend all day in the sun it can be harmful. A balance of the two is good. Applying too much sun screen is not good either. Agreed!!!
Sameeee. I am happy young people with horrible acne have access to her and won’t be putting toothpaste and lemon juice and un-diluted tea tree oil on their face like I did ;__;
After seeing so many “influencers” who USUALLY have a good moral compass when it comes to calling out the bullshit with Celeb Skin Care lines, Dr. Dray is the ONLY one who actually called the Fenty Line out for what it really was, overpriced celebrity schlock you can get from different brands for much cheaper. Everyone else was so timid and trying to give props when it just wasn’t due.
It actually "pisses me off" you are recommending products not only double the price but triple. Do you realize that a lot of the people who are watching free videos of a DOCTOR is because they cannot afford paying to see one to begin with? I do not even know what being "compassionate" means anymore in this time...
I swear esthetician’s die when they see a BASIC routine without a lot of additives or extra crap. Her routine is PERFECT FOR HER and it’s INFORMATIVE TO US. Why she would pretend to find any problem with her routine is beyond me and probably just more ad revenue.
Exactly, plus I am pretty sure Dr. Dray's and Cassandra's population are completely different. Even though Dr. Dray is vegan herself, she is professional and very prudent when it comes to recommending products to help her audience, contrary to making a video with clickbait for viewers. So this video is a little embarrassing to be honest.
@MI LO I see your point but people have different priorities. Being compassionate basically is being able to sympathise and empathise for something or someone other than you and that someone/thing can by anything and anyone. Personally I put emphasis on anyONE rather than anyTHING to put it bluntly. Humans over animals.
Unfortunately most of the products you’ve recommended are expensive. Super goop is expensive compared to other sunscreens. I get where you are coming from, I’m a vegan my self and love animals.But Dr Dray looks at skin care products from a physician point of view. Unfortunately I have found my self that many vegan skin care products are loaded with essential oils that are highly irritating to the skin, needless to say pricey.
the ordinary is vegan and their products are not loaded with essential oils tho :) cosrx, purito and klairs are cruelty free and mostly vegan too and many products are really affordable, they have fragrance free options (especially on yesstyle)
Sophie , unfortunately the ordinary sells what is considered to be raw skin care products, meaning, each product contains a single ingredient required in a skin care formula that will benefit your skin care. For instance, niacinamide or Ascorbic acid in their purest states without any other additives. The Ordinary is giving the consumer the job to play the roll of chemist as the application of some of these ingredients alone will cause severe irritation. There is a reason why skin care pharmaceutical companies hired chemist to measure the ratio of ingredients before putting a product in the market.
ELF is all vegan and has some skin care options. Jason and Dessert Essence have fragrance free options. Inkey list and The Ordinary are also cruelty free. I know it can be hard to find so let's support each other in finding cheap vegan options!
Fenty has a new sunscreen/moisturizer and it’s around $35 and the bottle is huge which makes it worth the price in my opinion also adding the fact that it doesn’t have a white cast. I’m not sure if the ingredients are cruelty free or vegan friendly so you would have to look it up.
Anybody who has watched Dr Dray knows she be giving out FREE ADVICE!!! A whole free consultation!!! Girl she’s a whole dermatologist. You shouldn’t be getting mad that she doesn’t use cruelty free products. It’s her decision.
Dry was shaving her face to test the hypothesis 'it's good for you skin'. Very self-sacrificing, but a DOCTOR should know these BASICS without even testing. No shaving your face isn't good!! ...and Cassandra..., I don't know...
@@user-ji8ll1qn6o lol no not literally but she has so many informative videos explaining skin conditions/types and how to tell what skin problems you might be facing, how to treat them best, the science behind ingredients/products and how it reacts W/ the skin etc. and also focusing on products that are affordable and available in drugstores for a few dollars
@@user-ji8ll1qn6o I have bad underarm oder no matter what I use. Saw one of her videos, she said You can use PanOxyl acne face cream for your under arm cause it has ingredient that get rids of bacteria that cause bad oder. Been doing for 3 weeks. Guurrrllll, that shit work!!!! Some days I don't even need deodorant. There's no smell!! I been fighting this damn problem over 20 years until now. Thank the lawd for Dr.Dray!!!
I personally love Dr. Dray, just discovered her channel recently. I have followed Cassandra for years and I love her as well. My problem with this video (and I'm being objective) is that first of all Cassandra isn't a board-certified Dermatologist and second of all, I strongly dislike the fact that people push their views and morals and people so much, I think it's such a disservice to the Vegan community. Wish more people would understand that. You should lead by example and be respectful of others. I don't think Cassandra had bad intentions because she does seem genuine but she has to realize and understand how that comes off. I don't think she is in the position to be telling everyone how to be vegan, what's acceptable and what isn't, etc. Apart from that I just don't like the comments she had to make on a lot of the products that Dr. Dray mentioned. If Cassandra truly watched her videos she would realize that Dr. Dray recommends them for a reason and always talks about the fact that certain natural products (sometimes vegan products) have ingredients that are irritants and are not the best for the skin, Dr. Dray knows her stuff so I just think it's silly that Cassandra is acting like in a way she knows more. Being objective and real, I just don't think she is qualified to speak like she is at the level of Dr. Dray professionally. I don't think people are being 'negative' in the comments, I think we're just expressing what seems obvious in this video.
*Before this gets brought up in the comments, we were going to nip it in the bud here* For what it’s worth, I’m not here to comment on Dr. Drays diet. If you are, please take it elsewhere. Nobody knows what people are going through behind the scenes - whether it’s genetic, mental, cancer, other disorders etc. If she hasn’t brought it up, it’s probably something she doesn’t want addressed. I of course want people to get help if they need it, but something I have learned throughout the years changed me in a funny way. I have not been diagnosed with an eating disorder, or heart condition or metabolic condition that causes my body to process nutrients differently. I have dated women in the past who have struggled with eating disorders. Although I can sympathize with them, I could not empathize with them. What I learned from those relationships is that comments, constructive or positive, can often do more harm than help. Even kind or positive words get twisted in peoples minds and can often lead to worse outcomes. For me, it’s strange and counterintuitive but it’s something I respect. *Again, not saying or insinuating there is an Ed or any condition here because we have no idea, and honestly it’s none of our business what people‘s medical history is* Of course I want people to get help if they need it, however there are certain instances where it’s counterproductive to discuss publicly. Dr Dray is an amazing source of skin care knowledge, has such a sweet personality, has lots of energy and vitality, and is someone that I am so grateful to have in my digital life!! Unless she makes it my business, it’s not my place to discuss. I’ve said it in the comments multiple times, that I don’t block people - they can call me names, rude things etc. but I believe in freedom of speech. That being said, anytime a comment attacks someone else, for their race, religion, sexuality, appearance, or other things of that nature, there is no doubt that they are blocked. It’s not OK to judge and disrespect people for their differences. I do believe that most comments come from a place of kindness and compassion, but I think it’s important to remember that things can be taken out of context and hurt overall. If she wants to discuss certain things, I’m happy to watch her do so in videos. If not, my comment section is not the place to have those conversations.
Totally agree, and if you notice she looks so much healthier than around a year ago, so I think whatever she’s doing is working. People just love to gossip.
Hey Cassandra! I'm doing a video on my fav skincare youtubers! May l have your permission to include you in the video? I love your videos ! I hope & pray you see this!!
Great that you're taking the time to say that, but honestly I loathe ANYkind of these reaction videos, they are just another part [perhaps not the worst, but a contributing component] of the toxic online culture. It makes it normalized to turn someone into an exhibition and pick apart their choices for the reactee's benefit.
Dr Dray is a board-certified, published dermatologist: you are a CZcamsr who likes to use graphics of molecules and scientific terms in order to look like an expert.
I don't know ppl, honestly. Yes, they get 'certified' , 'promoted' etc. or get popular on the CZcams, but how do we know in either case what's better approach.
This video reminds me of the time Susan Yara boasted that she could go head to head with Dr Sandra Lee 🤦 Both Susan and Cassandra are way out of their league here.
Dermatologists recommend mineral oil because it's anallergic, while vegetal ones aren't, doesn't go rancid and is a good barrier for skin. Dr. Dray too talked about this on a video.
I love that you brought this up because I have skin that’s so sensitive that the only moisturizer I can use is mineral oil based. I’m allergic to latex, salicylates and benzenes and oxalates so plant oils are NOT compatible with my skin. Acting like coconut oil or vegetable oils are just as good as mineral oil is hella privileged and extremely uninformed.
I know absolutely nothing about skincare and I really don’t like Cassandra’s tone here, but for some reason, mineral oil breaks me out in cysts, I have no idea why. Ugh.
Haunted Mushrooms ASMR could just be too heavy for your skin? I’m not sure, sorry. I can only use mineral oil products for the most part but my skin has severe allergies. Maybe your skin is allergic to it? Because the allergic reactions I get are cysts and hives. If that sounds familiar then it could be an allergy 😬
Jen Green Aw thanks for the reply!! It might be too heavy for me, it’s such a shame because it works so well for so many people! I guess I might be in the very tiny minority who has an allergy! Damn! Thanks anyway!
Nope keep Dr Dray the way she is. She's one of the few CZcamsrs that actually bring value to my life rather than trying to take my money. I'll be vegan when I can afford it.
You must have missed her sponsored videos selling stuff she condemned in other videos. She was hawking a $160 pillow the other day during a pandemic. She got it for free. Real sensitive of her when people lost their jobs.
@@susanc9525 exactly because she was obviously thinking "I will sell a 160dll pillow because of how many people have lost their jobs", the fact that you're trigered for someone selling something you don't have to buy means your personal life must suck and you're just salty for not being to afford it even if you wanted it
@@susanc9525 how exactly is that insensitive? Stop trying to look for something to hate on dray. Your logic literally makes no God damn sense. By that logic it is also insensitive that there are CZcams Ads, and Television commercials...... People still have to make a living, she is not forcing people to buy whatever she sponsors, very few times has Dr dray sponsored something as expensive as that pillow, from what I have noticed she sponsors pricy things that she would normally use herself. She once sponsored a humidifier, she has ezcema and would benefit from one. So it seems she wouldn't sponsor something that she would use for herself. To me that is authentic of her.
@@emmal2578 Thats false. Veganism is a tricky lifestyle even if you disagree. Often times you have to buy certain foods and supplements to keep you on par with someone who eats meat and gets a good amount of their nutrients from meat and dairy. Veggies and fruit are not enough, nuts are EXPENSIVE, tofu, plant milks, and special vegan packaged foods are growing in demand + becoming more expensive. And depending on the state and city you live in being veganism becomes an expensive luxury. I live in Boston and being vegan here is not cheap... A lot of vegans under eat , when you're vegan you have to actually eat twice as much to reach your caloric and nutritional threshold and that honestly adds up on a weekly basis. This is coming from an ex vegan that developed an eating disorder and got severely ill.
Dr Dray mention it before in a couple of her videos she don’t often recommend vegan or cruelty free brands because a lot of them are nonsensical by adding a bunch of extract and essential oil, natural or clean. I rmb she mentioned it in her Ceramedx video. She sometime will sprinkle cruelty free products if they also fragrance free and affordable and she is aware of them.
She mentions them all the time. Did you know "Cruelty Free" is *NOT* regulated or enforced by anyone? Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. The FDA _does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label_. Companies can use them however way they want. See article: _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_ by Suzana Rose. If she wants to go after anyone, go after *the companies*, not Dr Dray.
Honestly, Dr Dray has saved my skin! I love how affordable the products she recommends are. I was going through really bad "maskne" and since using products like Neutrogena and Cera Ve my skin has been looking great!
Ponds is $3 and works great. Her recommendations are $18, $24, and $32 for a similar product. Sorry, but anyone who doesn't understand why that's an issue isn't someone I'll be taking any kind of advice from.
Wow, those are some ridiculous prices. There are far cheaper cruelty free products like The Inkey List, The Ordinary, elf, St. Ives, and even Dove has a cruelty free label on it now. Cassandra needs to recommend cheaper cruelty free alternatives if they are even available.
I always used baby oil, a cheap lotion or conditioner to remove my make up esp eye makeup. I never bought into the pricey make up removers but if someone wants to that is cool. Just not for me.
@@nikkib473 I have sensitive eyes and I use the generic Amazon eye makeup remover, and it works perfect even on waterproof mascara. I can't imagine spending so much money on something that's immediately washed down the drain.
@@perlalopez206 cassandra said it herself, “you can even use olive oil” so why are you asking me to spend so much when i already have what i need o the kitchen?
Girl, Dr Dray is more qualified than you. She knows what she’s talking about. I am not saying that you have no knowledge but you keep repeating the same things over and over again. Be humble, change that tone and stop criticizing other people’s choices !
Saying “But if you want to spend more money on products!” in that snarky tone after you just spent 25 minutes recommending much more expensive products than what she was using is so hilariously hypocritical
Lmao I eat vegan, am in medical school, and use cerave, cetaphil, and drugstore products. I also take several medications that are not vegan! She has her MD and PhD, like come on.
I graduated Pre-Med at UCLA and will be attending Med-School this month. As an aspiring doctor... I’m speaking up for all of us. Your condescending behavior is not cool. Becoming an esthetician is no where near the amount of work as becoming a doctor. You’re giving yourself way too much authority to judge a respected DOCTOR on a biased level. You’re pushing your morals and ethics during this “critique” instead recommendations based on FACTS BACKED BY ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC STUDY.... This is just poor taste. You should take this down. I seriously have second hand embarrassment for you.
I have to agree picking on Dr Dray because she isn't using only vegan products shouldn't be a picking point. It should be that the products are good, affordable and facts focused.
@@fashionovawigs that's not what Susan meant. Even though I trust Dr. Dray, you have to get your license renewed, skin care science is literally changing every week, new things are discovered. So if you were a dermatologist 5 years ago but havent been renewing your license you might be a tiny bit outdated on your knowledge. Of course you can always learn on your own as a professional without the license and just use your background knowledge to guide you to the right directions, but we should be careful regardless. Skin care advice from 2 years ago from a professional will not be as effective as advice from a pro today.
I’ve only seen a few reviews of function of beauty that were not sponsored and the majority of them claim that after using it for an extended period of time, it was making a significant amount of their hair fall out or otherwise damaging it. I would love an unsponsored video in the future if that’s possible.
I heard that it was linked to their due formula, but hair naturally falls out. I have a significant amount of hair that falls out because of how long I wait in between shampoos. I’ve also heard most people say it made them decide to wait a longer period of time in between the shampoos which can increase the amount of hair that comes out. Also how often you brush ur hair and so on. So many different factors play in to that as well. Hope that helps a lil bit!
Wow, this is shocking and I actually really appreciate you bringing this up - I have heard of this from other companies such as Diva curl or Monet, but never from function of beauty is Ash if you have any links that I could look into, I am more than happy to look into this, do some research, and followed up with a non-sponsored post discussing it! I hope you know that even when posts are sponsored I remain brutally honest and upfront throughout the whole thing, that being said I haven’t seen any hair loss personally. At the same time, this is worth looking into and I appreciate you bringing it up!!
This happened to me!!!! I chose it because it offered sulfate free dye free and scent free and even a silicone free option. But it made my hair try tangly and a mess. It’s not necessarily worth it. It lets you choose 5 hair goals but there are no restrictions. Chemically it doesnt make sense for it to claim to respond to each of these goals individually. Im over the hype
Dr. Dray saved my skin, she is the one that teach me about differin, how to apply them, how to reduce the inflammation period. If there is no Dr. Dray i have to go to the dermatologist and we all know how expensive it is. And I believe I’m not the only one who was helped by her video. So NO, her products is not ✨basic✨ it’s useful to people
I've been a medical aesthetician for 8 years and I love dr dray I love learning from her! Without dermatologist there would be no aesthetician you need to humble yourself honey
You need to humble yourself boo boo. Dr. Dray is one dermatologist and is just one voice. Cassandra stated she's worked with others who have different advice from Dr. Dray... do those physicians need to humble themselves too because they go against Dr. Dray?
@@hmacklemore2226 actually you need to humble yourself because your tone through just a comment is very rude and condescending. If people like Dr Dray, that's fine. If they don't, that's fine too but there is no need to be disrespectful.
@@hmacklemore2226 First of all, you’re weirdly obsessed with Dr. Dray. Second, I’d rather get the advice directly from a dermatologist than dermatology advice filtered through an esthetician.
Dr dray typically isn’t a fan of eye creams and thinks they’re useless. It looks like the only reason she’s using that product is because she’s basically using it as a concealer. So it’s not that it’s an spf or cream just for the eyes, it’s that she’s using the tint as a concealer, and because it has sunscreen & is more of a tint. she probably prefers that to an actual under eye concealer.
Yes exactly! I don't think that Dr Dray likes makeup. The only real makeup item that she uses is mascara, but other than that she uses tinted sunscreen as "foundation" which is kinda funny to me bc I used to wear a lot of makeup (typically concealer) to get some coverage for my pimples, and tinted sunscreen barely does anything. I like the point you made because context is everything!
I think Dr. Dray says plenty about cruelty free and Vegan products. Dr. Dray just doesn't leave out the other products that still works. She gives a balanced view cause not everyone cares about cruelty free or vegan products, some people just want something that works. This lady needs to chill, Dr. Dray has her own way of explaining these products.
I love how not a single comment here is dragging on Dr Dray. Everyone knows Dr Dray's worth. If you thought you'd be eliminating competitors you chose the wrong person.
I don't care. Dr. Dray is my favorite youtuber..she has done amazing things. She has helped me understand things I've been confused about for over 30 years. I'm forever grateful for her!!!
While I respect the opinions expressed in this video, Dr Dray recommends AFFORDABLE and ACCESSIBLE products. It would be nice if there were more accessible and affordable and affective, cruelty free options but unfortunately there is not. And to be honest not everyone is willing to risk using coconut oil on their face. So to each their own. Not everyone wants to pay that kind of money for the more “ethical”, “vegan” products especially in this day and time where most people need to save a penny and their face!
I couldn’t agree with you more on this! And thank you for bringing this up, and back to the forefront of my attention. You’re totally right - it’s so frustrating, even when I’m trying to find duplicates for some of the drugstore favorites, to see the ridiculous prices of some of these things - identical ingredients, but what is cruelty free and cost three times as much. Hopefully this is something that the industry can fix super soon!
I find it weird that cruelty free and vegan skin care products are uncommon in drugstores in the US. Here in Korea, they are absolutely common. And they're very affordable as well. I heard from Americans in a Facebook skincare group I'm in that Walmart sells some Korean skin care products. And that their prices are affordable. I hope it can be helpful to some of you all.
Doll Face this is amazing, and I wasn’t aware of Walmart! Definitely have to look into this. Yes, it’s amazing how inexpensive cruelty free products can be overseas. I wish that the American market would take a hint! I will definitely look into some of these brands and really appreciate you bringing this to my attention!
I really respect cassandra a lot but when she celebrates things being "GMO free" like a Karen I just can't lol. As a geneticist and molecular biologist I work with GMOs and there is just absolutely zero reason for why everyone demonizes it. Especially not by categorically saying they are something you wouldn't want. Hhhhh this makes me so angry
@Bisexual Misanthrope it's there because dr dray made it there lmao. For example cerave. But if it sucks dr dray will give it to you straight facts for example rihanna fenty skincare literally the most popular skincare. No one dared to say the truth being afraid they will get cancelled by riri fans.
I just watched Dr. Drays video last night. It's like 8 months old but I never get tired of her videos. I went on a Dr. Dray binge last night til like 3am. Lol.
Greetings Diana Moore hope u r well n just like u I’m on here to c what’s Being Said.... cause I Totally Love Dr. Dray💙n I Dislike Any1 Talking Smack about Her.... cause To Me.... She’s a True Treasure that Deserve Total Respect💯👑🙏👏....
Dr.Dray is very professional in what she does and I absolutely respect her. She knows what she’s doing. She is a very intelligent woman. Great content and tips she provides for us.
Is funny how you call yourself an "expert" when you are about to react to a professional who actually is expert in this field: an actual dermatologist. There is no more expert when it comes to skin than dermatologists, and "medical aestheticians" are way below their level of knowledge, quite the corage to refer to yourself as an expert while criticizing dr Dray in the same video, wow
We are licensed notice how she didnt say she was a physician. I myself am an esthetician and know a lot of what dermatologists know. I recommend products based on your current routine. I wont make you buy expensive things, I recommend things both on an esthetician level and a dermatologist level. It all depends on your budget. You hire me to help YOU. I have done many skin treatments that have actually worked and healed my clients acne and made it go away rather than use medications that change the DNA. Stop sitting on us like you know how to do our job.
@@melaries1823 I happen to know, and the fact that you 2 even try to compare your tiny knowledge to a PHD dermatologist is extremly offensive for anyone in this field except for rock bottoms like you who are frustrated for being the lowest tier and want desperately to feel superior but you are still the far bottom of this field, do not compare yourself to even a dermatology bachelor ffs, your knowledge compared to it is 0.0001%, but to a PHD dermatologist? You are off charts literally, your knowledge doesnt even reach 0.0000001%, dont be so full of yourselves when all you know is flat out basics. And you say you know "a lot" of what dermatologists know? You think dermatologists spend way more years of studying and have actual degrees because they study the same than you at a slower pace or what? You know the pure basics, that is NOT "a lot", your tiny knowledge is not even comparable. If you think you are on pair with the degrees I invite you to take the tests and get your own phd, but you just can NOT pass with your current lack of education. You are comparing qualification level 8 (the highest most specialized and advanced) with level 4 (SOME factual knowledge in BROAD contexts), and these qualification frames convert to the same proportional equivalents all around the world, her phd will always be the highest most advanced and your... *cough* not even bachelor, will always be some tiny knowledge in a very broad topic, so please don't make laugh
@@flyingcloud2677 oh please stop with that dermatologist Bs. If they were so great, they would have effectively helped my acne. I went to four of them and they weren’t able to properly help me. The third one even worsened my situation. But the first aesthetician that I went to (out of despair ) was the starting point of me healing. I don’t care that derms have the "science" and go to school for 10+ years. If you’re not able to help your patients, you’re worthless. I don’t trust them anymore. Because of my experience, I pick Cassandra over dr Dray any day (whose skin is not beautiful to me btw)
@@dimitrifranck exactly. What they recommend makes my clients skin flare the heck up. But when I make recommendations based on what they are currently doing, I come up with skincare treatments which ultimately help them in the end. I am certified in many machines that dermatologists cannot use in fact. Why are we more successful in treating their acne then? Why do dermatologist have estheticians? Get over it with the phd bullshit.
@@flyingcloud2677 if you think that then why do dermatologist have estheticians in their practice? We do more of the actual skincare treatments then actual dermatologist do. We use machines that they cannot use, and are not certified in. My treatments actually work because I don't recommend products that make my clients skin flare up the minute they use it. Dermatologists are not successful in most cases so they send them to the estheticians. I dont give two shits about a phd or not I know what the hell I am doing. I studied my ass off, I did my training and had many jobs behind a dermatologist. So sit down with that and worry about yourself and stop judging other peoples jobs. No one cares about your opinion because they are not facts.
I think aesteticians have ego issues. "Pissing me off "- because of the vegan options. I can't help this is over the top. Dr Dray said "oil based cleanser". If there isn't a vegan choice, a consumer can Google vegan cruelty free oil based cleanser. This aestheticism doesn't realise that people watching Dr Dray have the ability to also think for them selves. I consider myself a liberal but.... This women is bloody insane.
@raymond ron constructive criticism often doesn't come with a side of attitude and undertones are really disliking someone else. Constructive criticism comes with respect and a desire to help out someone in your field. Constructive criticism does not mock, it does not rant, it does not deviate from points initially made and go off at length on other points indicating miscommunication. Science has its faults, yes. But constructive criticism in any industry can be handled with at least a modicum of respect and what I've already mentioned. Pulling faces and mockery and every thing else you see (being socially aware and having a general amount of EQ, you can see the mannerisms and undertones in this video, I think most people pick up in these things.) So it's very easy to see that actually this aesthetician either really disliked Dr Dray, and/or dislikes people who have "proper" qualifications in the industry. She clearly has a chip in her shoulder about being an aesthetician. And that's HER problem to sort out herself, it shouldn't be made clear in a really unprofessional way like this.
I probably would be condescending towards someone too if they were promoting abuse towards animals. Actually I get pretty pissed off and extremely sad when animals are tortured, abused, and killed...but that's just me.
@@Newuser000 no need for the snark. Dr Dray didn't exactly outwardly say: buy products tested on animals. She gave options based on the effect on the skin. And price. You have a voice - you wonderfully demonstrated and shared this, and it's fantastic! And don't forget : everyone has their ability to choose. I prefer cruelty free vegan products too. But that doesn't mean as soon as I watch Dr Dray, I become brainwashed. I stick to my ideals and my preferences and I use my critical thinking skills - as you yourself just demonstrated - to say : okay, I'll look out for a product like this. Or with this ingredient, or a product that has a similar function to what Dr Dray is talking about. So, yes it's a shame that Dr Dray doesn't mention purely CF and vegan products, but remember, others that watch her may not have the financial ability to choose CF, Vegan products. BUT. For those that do. We can use her skincare advice and apply her facts when we are browsing for products that fit our own ethics and morals. First and foremost Dr Drays job is advising us on skincare. Not about ethics. (Yes, others mention both. But that's out of choice. Some people don't like having political or ethical discussions on social media). Remember, you have a voice, others have their voice. And the best way to use it (in terms of products) is to vote with our money, choose to buy CF and vegan products. Outside of that, researching politicians and their stance on animal and human rights and their voting history, and then voting in elections, is another way to use our voice.
She's sharing her personal skincare routine. She doesn't use many cruelty free products so why would she recommend them in the video. Also isn't coconut oil meant to be horrible for the skin? :/
Coconut oil shouldn't be bad if you follow with a good cleanser. SHOULDN'T is the key word, keep in mind everyone's skin is different. Personally I've used olive oil and coconut oil as a first step to get rid of waterproof mascara and it's never posed an issue for me, but my skin tends to be very resilient so I wouldn't recommend it for everyone
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳 Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour? So... 10 times a day? Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 yeah it would, however it's fairly true all sunscreen has to be reapplied every two hours to get benefit from it. Hopefully in the future they'll be better
I don’t know why u had to pick on her routine ? she’s doing her best with drugstore products and does a great job explaining them too … She’s sooo good and clever . Her content might be basic in derm world but we don’t know the basics. That’s the problem 😅
Dr Dray actually does recommend many vegan and cruelty free products when they exist and could be alternative to some not cruelty free ones in many her videos, no matter whether she uses only cruelty free products or not. As an youtuber, she is testing a lot of products for review and she probably changes her routine constantly. She moved on to other cleansers already. If you watch her empties video you would know.
Exactly this is what i notice but many youtuber want to show us that they are the lords of the world and try to '' diaboliser'' people who dont follow their which they call values.
Literally. She went through med school and an extremely difficult residency, I’m sure she knows what she’s doing as she’s been one on one practicing this. Like I don’t get why people who only have an interest in skincare have to make comments against doctors that know what they are doing. We’re lucky that Dr. dray recommends affordable skincare or affordable alternatives.
@@hp8962 Okay girl. I have seen quite a few of your negative comments and I'd just like to state that: Even professionals can be criticized. Cass is a medical aesthetician; therefore, she is also qualified to discuss skin care. She's not just a hobbyist. Aestheticians (more so than dermatologists) are the ones who usually look into skin care actives and off-the-shelf products. Dermatologists are doctors and they learn about skin care illnesses, it's not a dermatologist's job to understand skin care formulations. My point being: Yes, Dr Dray obviously has a lot of experience in skin care, but so does Cass. I'm a computer engineer, and guess what? Despite the fact that I am an expert in my field, I also occassionally receive criticism from physicists and programmers. Being an expert in your field is great, but you might not be the only expert. Give Cass some credit, she also has 10 years experience in the line of skin care.
Dr. Dray would never make a video like this. So many things you said was so offputting. Dr. Dray has helped so many people with affordable alternatives. Not everyone can afford to buy expensive stuff. She cannot accomodate everyone. And to spam her comment section is just ridiculous. It pisses med off that you actually get pissed of by her choices and content. It is HER channel, not yours. You can decide what your content is, but SHE, and only her decides her content. I support Dr. Dray and trust that she does what she can to accomodate as many of us as possible. She is the best one on CZcams by far.
Wish i could like this twice.. she gives so many options and tries to please everyone while also being so respectful of peoples values. Cassandra wss just trying to show off.. get off your high horse.. nothing is 100%. Cruelty free
She keeps mentioning that the products that dray uses are basic and that the products that dr dray Is using won't help people with acné or hyperpigmentation. Thats why dr dray has other videos on that topic. This is just her skin care routine that works for her.
i’m gonna go ahead and say what basically everyone else is saying, but i feel the need because i looked up to you in such a short time span. i started watching your videos maybe two months ago when i started getting horrible acne and wanted to become educated on skincare. you and dr dray have both helped me so much but i am extremely poor and really desperate for things to take away my acne, your recommendations are overpriced big time. and saying dr dray is “basic” is a little low, yes there is products with actives and she’s talked about those before, but for people like me- with acne prone skin, not all of us respond well to actives, my skin got so much worse after using actives, even after the purging should’ve already ended. since then i’ve stuck to a basic cleanser and moisturizer and spf and nothing else and my acne has calmed down and gone back to normal. and lastly, i understand your views on cruelty free products and being vegan…unfortunately i am not wealthy enough to afford only being vegan and getting products other than cerave, even cerave gets too expensive for me sometimes. i’m also autistic and cannot handle eating vegan foods- my safe foods all have some kind of animal involved and i cannot help those things, if i could i definitely would and id be vegan. but forcing your views on others is a little unsettling, not everyone CAN be cruelty free and others unfortunately just don’t care and nothing you say will fix that. i’m sad to see you talking about a certified dermatologist like this…you were my favorite skincare youtuber
“Shes kinda been pissing me off” GURL..... you did NOT just DRAG an ACTUAL DOCTOR just because she isnt “cruelty free” love your videos butttttttt nope
Cassandra has a really strong point: Dr Dray is a vegan. However, dr Dray being a vegan a way of weight control (orhorexia) and not being anti-animal cruelty. Dray's 'what she eats' vid are about eatng a lot of and low cal meals, and ways to feel full.
I totally agree with Cassandra, I love dr dray but I find some of her content useless because I wont use products tested on animals. Cassandra has a really good point! So many people are CF now & vegan for ethical reasons, so if dr dray recommended more CF products it would help a lot more people xx
Idk man, an esthetician reviewing the product choices and recommendations of a board licensed MD dermatologist it's like a spiritual astrological guru reviewing an astrophysicist lecture about gravity and relativity. Yeah, that's how stupid this is.
@@bmth607When the burger flipper gets to Gordon Ramsey's level of training, he/she is welcome and entitled to say what they like. There is no discrediting the level of knowledge if it is not in the same league. Until then you reach that level of achievement, be humble and respectful.
Its like a hygienist critiquing an orthodontist, or a nurse advising a surgeon. Its just so distasteful and really SHOWS more than anything how little she knows
she did mention her profession and that she doesn’t claim to know more. she just wanted to react to someoen she stated she looks up too. but however i do think she seemed condescending and overwhelming with her tone.
Well, I guess it's a good thing that aloe is vegan and cruelty free. You'll definitely need it to sooth the burn from getting DRAGGED in these comments! In any event, Dr. Dray is a treasure, and she keeps it real without being annoyingly perky. I love her!
Dr Dray talks about ingredients, what might be helpful or not, reviews products, has one or two snide comments about certain brands, or shares mundane but fun stuff like her finds shopping at Costco but I don’t recall her going around talking about or reacting to other channels and that is great. That is one reason I enjoy watching her videos. Wish others would do the same and stick with reviewing or reacting to products, not other CZcamsrs because frankly, to do so is boring and unhelpful.
Mark's World if you’re sitting by a big window all day that’s different, then yeah reapply because you can literally feel the uv rays. But if you’ve got curtains and you’re not going outside again then no you don’t have to. Use your logic.
I will watch someone’s own routine and push my own opinion on people. Truly it’s her choice to recommend the products she wants to recommend you don’t have to wine about her not recommending certain options. She does mention the ingredients to look for in a product and the ones to avoid so if you want cruelty free, check the cruelty free products with or without the mentioned ingredients. Do your homework, she does not owe you anything and doesn’t have to do it for you. She’s doing us all a favor to even mention and talk about everything she talks about.
"Cruelty Free" is *NOT* regulated or enforced by anyone. Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. The FDA _does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label_. Companies can use them however way they want. See article: _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_ by Suzana Rose
She acts like she is the actual doctor with a PhD and Dr. Dray is the esthetician. And stop preaching all that cruelty free, it's so annoying, not everyone can afford those things, atleast Dr dray recommends stuff that we can all afford and she offers drugstore brands. She preaches what good for our skin and her videos are very educational. This video just seemed very passive aggressive where you you are trying to find faults in her and when you can't find any you go off on those cruelty free thing.
@@matildematrix7290 have you been to Asia? None of those brands exist in my country or neighbouring ones. To hell with your first world supremacist arrogance bruh.
Asima Nayak I second this, and even though some shops carry the ordinary in my country, they have super high price points that they cost almost like high end products
I’m honestly just shocked at the high horse this woman is on. Getting views on CZcams does not mean you are qualified to judge a dermatologists personal skincare routine. What a joke this is.
Its not the only thing I'm mad about. We all know Dr.Dray loves function of beauty for her hair. I haven't yet come across recommendations for another brand she has done (feel free to recommend in case I missed). Yet Function of Beauty had the AUDACITY to partner with Cassandra on a video that is dragging Dr.Dray by the hair. It's ridiculous.
I feel like ur taking this too seriously, I like many other people feel strongly about using more cruelty free and vegan products where possible. Cassandra is just recommending similar products which are less harmful.
Don't just use any kind of oil for oil cleansing, Google the comedogenic level of what you want to use first and make sure it's ok for your skin type x
I always got weird vibes from this channel because she's recommending a lot of overpriced or useless products and only seems to make content for upper middle class women. I still liked to watch her videos from time to time but I just discovered this video and oof. Dr Dray isn't above everything else and it's ok to criticise her but this video made me cringe so much. Just so embarrassing
Why is having morals considered elitist and inaccessible? Cassandra doesn’t support violence against animals, and tbh, Dr Dray claims not to either as a vegan yet recommends products that have caused animal suffering. Maybe don’t watch the channel if you don’t have ethics?
@@ladycaticorn2950 Yes she does. Everyone does, including you. Maybe not with words but with actions. Most vegans just lack the critical thinking skills to see how their life negatively impacts animals and the environment. You can't escape it unless you go to Tibet and become a monk. You are literally posting a comment to a server supported by batteries that's lithium came from strip mines that stripped the very environment of life of all kinds. 1) I have never heard Dr Dray's reasoning for being a vegan.. it may not have anything to do with animals. 2) Every single product has caused animals suffering. Every single one. Cruelty free just means they didnt directly test on animals. But that does not mean the gathering of ingredients used did not either. Where do you think they get natural oils? It doesn't just come out of the air. They come from plants or seeds or nuts, and the people who collected them didn't give a shit if animals were around. You don't give a shit about ethics, you just want to morally grandstand because you are a narcissist with a superiority complex.
@@An.Unsought.Thought Wow, you really want to talk to me about veganism. Two comments from you. I'm flattered! Again, you make weak arguments in an attempt to paint veganism as delusional when, in fact, choosing to go vegan is rooted in logic, critical thinking, and moral alturisim. I recognized that I love animals and do not want them to suffer when we have a plethora of plant alternatives thanks to science. I acknowledged that I had been behaving in a way that did not align with my values because society normalized animal exploitation, abuse, and suffering to me. And I changed, even though it was hard. How am I morally superior when I admit my own fault and acknowledge that I needed to change? Furthermore, as I have already addressed in my other comment to you, veganism does not eradicate all animal suffering nor does it suggest that such a feat will happen. The Vegan Society defines veganism as "a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals.” This definition does not indicate that all forms of human and non-human animal suffering will cease to exist because people become vegan. The point is that we can actively make choices to dramatically reduce the exploitation, suffering, killing, and abuse of non-human animals for food, entertainment, cosmetics/skincare, science/medicine, and clothing. You are desperately trying to invalidate my arguments by suggesting that I cannot stop all animal suffering or that I have contributed to animal suffering. You are right on both counts. But that's not my point. If we know that causing animals to suffer is wrong (because we agree that it is cruel to kill someone who doesn't wish to die, especially when their death is not necessary for survival), and we can do something to limit the amount of harm we are causing, then we are morally responsible for making changes. In your case, you'd rather live in a world in which everyone shoves their heads in the sand and does the bare minimum, claiming that striving for change is futile because suffering and inequality and death exist. I call bullshit. You wouldn't tell abolitionists that they shouldn't fight for the emancipation of enslaved people because racism and racial violence will still exist following abolition. And you wouldn't tell someone that they shouldn't try to reduce their carbon footprint since climate change is happening. But you say this about veganism because going vegan requires that you admit moral-wrongdoing and make changes. You'd rather not do that, so you'll call me stupid, narcissistic, and any other ad hominem to discredit me. And to your point about computers, I cannot do my job and survive without a computer. I can, however, survive without consuming animal flesh or secretions, wearing animal skin or fur, or supporting animal testing. You appeal to futility, but futility does not negate moral responsibility.
@@ladycaticorn2950tell me you're crazy,unhinged and your only personality trait is being a vegan without telling me you're crazy,unhinged and your only personality trait is being a vegan Your lengthy ridiculous comment:"I'll go first."
As a physician, I am deeply disappointed in all the disrespectful attitude towards a certified dermatologist, who makes products recommendations based on scientific evidence and the cost-benefit that implies adherence and better results. Also, how absurd to recommend a papaya cleanser, instead of the inexpensive and effective alternative of Ponds. Just because it isn’t cruelty free. Papaya is a highly allergenic fruit... Anyways, everyone should evaluate what kind of influencers they follow. I definitely will NOT follow such irony and unfounded disrespect.
Karla Alejandra. Recommending animal cruelty is not being a good influence. Some people have basic ethics. Many poor people care about animals, assuming low income people want to cruel to animals is also messed up. Just recommend cheap cruelty-free products.
I believe she is draging Dr. dray for no valid reason and she is not a doctor herself, and actually esteticiants as her, not her, ruined my skin more oftenly, as on the other hand dermatologists are doctors and know much more not only about the skin, but about health. She is recomending coconut oil, how can it even be recommended for people with sensitive and oily skin... Just use simple skincare. Cleanser, cream, spf and one active at a time, that's all
@@jaclynmccosker I think the OP is saying that she should have suggested something that isn’t damaging to many people. Just because something is cruelty free, that doesn’t make it good or healthy. Something can be cruelty free and not damaging.
Reviewing other people’s routines while staying classy and kind is truly an art... which you haven’t mastered yet. And btw I don’t watch Dr. Dray, so no, I’m not defending anyone.
@@sexystranger2935 As she should though! Like when did abusing, torturing, and killing animals be like a totally cool thing? Like - NO - that's fucking whack!!!
@@TheFergo911 Maybe, Just maybe Cass (or other animal rights activist, or influencers in general) don't always create content with YOU in mind. It's not always about you infinitus, or doing whatever it takes to effectively make you understand that abusing animals is shitty.
This entire video comes off as all kinds of privileged. Most people don’t have access to a dermatologist. Dr Dray gives her time and advice for free, and offers the most affordable options. Then you come on here and making a video not only trying to disregard that but offering vegetable oil as an option? So if you’re poor just use vegetable oil because it’s cruelty free. That’s why I can’t stand the vegan community. They put their blinders on and act like everyone is living the same experiences as everyone else.
@@lucia4916 Lucia complimenting someone and insulting them in the same sentence is called being passive agressive, nice-nasty or just straight up gaslighting
The more I learn about cruelty free beauty the more I realise it almost doesn’t exist, especially on the sustainability front. I enjoy a lot of your content but i find this video slightly hypocritical.
That's what I always said!!! Cruelty free is just not 100% possible in this world. It just isn't and will never be. With that in mind, it's still important that products are not tested on animals and stuff like that, but there is no need to get obsessed over it. I agree :)
Samanta Rizzi I’m not saying it’s impossible, it very much is possible and unfortunately companies that aren’t necessarily currently cruelty free are the ones who have the funds and resources to try and prove to places such as China that have a ‘list’ of tested ingredients to consider finding alternatives for testing. but I’m not going to judge someone for recommending a product that’s good and affordable, it’s more important to recognise when someone’s using fear mongering. It’s such a fascinating but equally frustrating industry especially in America that’s so behind Europe in terms of science and regulations.
@@Gresaaa It's not possible. Again think about where those ingredients come from? Plants? Where do plants grow? In the fields .. so for making those fields what are they doing? They have to make room for it, that way some animals lose their homes, some get killed during this (think about how they cut trees from the forest in order to make room to plant plants that will give the right ingredients to then gain profit with them)... so even if it's a natural ingredient there is no way it could be 100% cruelty free. Nature doesn't work like that. You can have whatever opinion you want I know I'm right about this because we studied these things in school. Obviously Europe is better at the regulations, but we're far from being perfect when it comes to animals and nature! (I'm from Slovenia)
skeletondance i don’t know it’s just me but where i live there’re many affordable cruelty free vegan products, that are qualified as those 2 for many reasons and have reusable packaging that u can donate for them to recicle
It is a privilege to buy & have accessible Cruelty Free products. I wish I could but I can't afford it. I'd like to not be bashed for my not cruelty free products. I get the passion & the frustration but it does make me feel bad & guilty for not being able to afford Cruelty Free products. Once again I know she is mainly criticizing Dr. Dray since she has more options to go cruelty free but at the same time she's offering us flexible options, affordability & gives her honest opinion. I don't feel bad after watching her videos like I did with this one😖I hope to go cruelty free in the future but for now I have to use what I have.
I'm a broke college student and I live in a 3rd world country, so a lot of the products you recommend just aren't accessible to me, and even if they were, I simply can't afford them. DR Dray's product recommendations however tend to be on products that are affordable, and accessible to me (brands like Cerave, La Roche Posay, Avéne, Neutrogena...) and they tend to generally work. What I like about Dr Dray's videos is other than the clear fact that they are educational and informative, she also favours doing the bare minimum to one's skin and she doesn't push using excessive amounts of products. I guess my main point is that while heeding ethical considerations is great and noble, you should also consider the fact that a lot of the products you show just aren't affordable nor accessible to some of your viewers.
where are you from?
The cost of a lot of cruelty-free products is prohibitive for a lot of people. It's awesome that Dray makes an effort to point out basic and inexpensive alternatives. I use a few things from the Ordinary that I really like. I don't know if that's an option for you but if not we do the best we can with what we have until things start to change :)
@@kaleidoscopeeyes1184 the thing is some of the ordinary products are in their purest form and cause breakouts for a lot of people and some are not recommended for dark skin people.Just watch Dr.Vanita Rattan's review on the ordinary.
Because of all these CZcams self made skincare gurus I never bought the Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash with 2% Salicylic acid. They all said it was striping and too harsh to be used even on oily skin. Bruh after about ten "gentle/hydrating" washes for months, I finally risked buying the Neutrogena, And boy how wrong I was, it worked like a charm. My never ending toxic relationship with acne came to an end. I still have issues because of my hormones but it has done A LOT! that's when I realised all money wasted on ethical, sustainable, fair trade etc etc was doing nothing for me if it doesn't suit me. And guess who recommended the Neutrogena one 🤗 yes Dr.Dray.
I think Cassandra is pointing out more the lack of option for cruelty free, like, Dr Dray is recommrnding non cruelty free, but could ALSO give cruelty free option, but isn't.
You can't critisise someone's skincare routine for not being cruelty free. That's like reviewing a chef's recipe and saying 'I don't like it because it' s not vegan'. Okay... But they never said it was? You didn't talk about the actual food at all. You can say you'd prefer cruelty free. But that's a lifestyle choice. It has no relevance to the actual food/skincare (btw, I'm an advocate for cruelty free, I'm just pointing out the obvious flaw in that argument).
Thank you was just thinking the same thing.
Right? She might be vegan for health reasons.
Being vegan is an ethical lifestyle not a diet. She should not claim she’s vegan if she doesn’t use vegan products. She is then plant based not vegan.
This is coming from someone who is not vegan ☺️ I can just see how Cassandra as an actual Vegan would be a little annoyed by it because she frequently states she’s vegan to her audience but then contradicts her message by constantly using non vegan products
Yeah, also, Dr Dray is under no obligation to use “cruelty free” products (especially as that term is quite loosely defined) so this video is coming across as rude and entitled. I like her other videos but come on, berating people for not accomodating your preferences is ridiculous and turns even your audience off.
@@soniak2269 right on!
The fact that you felt qualified to critique a board certified dermatologist is absolutely adorable. Bless your heart.
@Yamnihc Ebmilaw I had to look this up to know if you are correct bc I'm not an expert and... "While both focus on the skin, dermatologists are medical doctors that specialize in skin health and treatment. Estheticians, also called skincare specialists, focus primarily on the appearance of the skin. While estheticians certainly help their clients maintain healthy skin, they don’t have the medical training or knowledge to advise beyond esthetics"
@@ladynanshi truee sir ...
Love this comment
She still works with them don't you think that's a lil rude..
Lol not all doctors are equal,nor clear of criticism. But way to go in your poorly thought out comment; hopefully you are never subjected to a bad doctor
$50 for a bottle of shampoo and conditioner is not affordable for the average person.
Who recommended it?
"bEcAusE itS cRueLty Free"
Lmao
most people use too much shampoo/conditioner anyway- a good bottle of shampoo with vitamins and everything should be at least $25 and should last you 3-6 months depending on how oily your hair gets naturally etc
@@sammi_spencer that may be for your hair but everyone has different hair types. Some people have more hair or less hair, some thicker and some thinner, some curly and some straight. My conditioner and shampoo would never last me that long because of how much hair I have and it’s texture. You’re experiences don’t reflect everyone’s
@@sammi_spencer I will use as much product on my body that I paid for as much as I want. That's just me. Seems to be a lot of know it alls on here who don't exactly know it all to begin with.
Dr Dray is great because she is a seasoned professional; isnt into trends; and is honest with no bells and whilstles.
I know right
And shows whats affordable but yet effective products!!
Seasoned professional? Where are her degrees? Where is her practice and how are her patients reviews of her? How often does she see them? If she cant be transparent about her practice (which I doubt she even has) then she needs to stop making ridiculous claims. Dr Pimple popper is completely open about everything, from the schools she went to, the degrees she has, and even featured patients (with their consent).
She's an influencer with a medical degree (and there's plenty of those all over CZcams in every field you can imagine) 🤣
That’s why I’m subscribed to doctor dray, straight to the point and no bs!
@@JohnDoe-xr4bg exactly! she is a pro-ana site and today's video is about celery juice a known laxative. I cannot find her practice and no reviews either.
Aestheticians need to stop doing these videos on dermatologists. I’m a molecular biologist and I trained intensely for 8 years to do my job and have multiple years of experience.
When I finished my degree I felt very confident and qualified. After my masters, I realised that I wasn’t as knowledgeable as I thought I was. Now with a doctorate I’ve never been more humble. I’m as qualified as one can get in the industry and I realise now that we as people know very little. I remember my lecturer in the first year saying “you will become a scientist when you realise how much you don’t know. What I lacked after my undergraduate degree was critical thinking and the ability to apply science outside of the box.
That’s the sense I get with aestheticians when I see videos of them criticising Dermatologists or claiming that they are a in different field.
Sometimes people don’t know what they don’t know hence why they are overly confident to criticise people who are more qualified than they are without critical thinking.
Love this. The more educated I am, I more humble I become. There is so much we don’t actually know.
The criticism was mostly ethical I don't see any criticism from a scientific perspective, Mrs Bankson merely spoke about including cruelty free options in Dr. Dray's videos, which is reasonable and does not challenge any scientific or medical position Dr. Dray has expressed. Mrs Bankson is well aware and has mentioned before that she is not in a position to challenge Dr. Dray's medical knowledge, and she never has before. Did you actually *watch* the video?
While I don’t disagree with any of what you said, Cassandra focused on ethical critique which you do not need a doctorate to make a good case for.
Lio THANK you 🙄
Very well articulated
Dr dray is highly educated and I trust her!!
So stay on her channel!!
@@galesal1109Exactly! That's where the top quality content is!
Dr Dray literally saved my skin! My skin is better now in my 40s than when I was in my 20s…I’m a mom of 5 so I can’t spend 100s on my skin care so I only buy products she recommends
One of the things I love about Dr. Dray is she openly states she won't do reaction videos because she doesn't feel it's right to judge or comment on someone else's routine. It's probably part of the oath: First do no harm.
we love our mature, wholesome and drama free queen dr. dray 😌💜
Greetings Natalie V. hope u r well n so Agree with u.... Dr. Dray is A Real Treasure n I so Appreciate All of Her Hard Work😀👍💜....
lol that is so passive aggressive, I'm sure her oath also applies when Dray is selling me headbands. She's more of a influencer than an actual doctor.
I'd love to know how her practice is doing, what her patients reviews of HER are, and does she even work as a doctor or is her real job CZcams?
John Doe i believe she has her own practice in houston
@@nataliev7070 oh? By all means link her practice, if she's going to be waving her medical license like it's gospel then we all need to see what type of doctor she is, her patient reviews on her and beside manners. If she wants to keep that private then she can have a seat, because Dr. Pimple popper is very open about her practice and even featured patients of hers (with their consent)
With the eye sunscreen, she said she likes it because it acts as a concealer as well. Dr. Dray does not support the use of eye creams in general if you watch her videos.
And because most sunscreens can be irritating around the eyes so she uses that one bc it is free of certain ingredients
I was about to comment this. It has a peachy undertone which is amazing at concealing under eye circles.
I agree! Dr.Dray does mention in her videos that she uses tinted sunscreens in place of other makeup like foundation and concealer. People should not get so triggered by the mere mention of the word "eye cream".
@@paulaamin9834 which videos does she talk about this eye cream sunscreen?
I’m so annoyed at the fact she made those hand gestures mocking Dr. Dray (even if she wasn’t actually). She obviously was not listening to her or watched the rest of the video to make that comment. She was suggesting it as a concealer and a preventative, in no way do eye creams get rid of dark circles or wrinkles but that’s not what Dr. Dray was saying or vocalized. Like really she had to make those faces and then be like “she’s super right! But I’m surprised she chose that! Haha 🙂” came off super wrong
This video is like watching a Pre-Med student commenting on a Surgeon.😁😂
DEDDD I CAN'T THIS SHOULD BE UPVOTED
HAHAHAH OMFG YEAH
@@juicysmolliette2852 big time
Exactly
obviously this esthetician who studied 6 mos to work her job is antagonizing a dermatologist to get views. since we are commenting on her video, she is getting the attention she wants for her channel
I respect Dr. Dray because while she may be vegan she doesn’t push that on us and uses products that work for her and make sense. Just because your vegan and want cruelty free doesn’t mean everyone does or can afford it. We all have our own perspective, she isn’t wrong in using what she likes just as you are not wrong for using what you like. Skincare is not one size fits all.
Also "Cruelty Free" is NOT regulated or enforced by anyone. Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. Sadly, the FDA does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label so companies can use them in whichever way they want. There's a good article on this, look for _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_
by Suzana Rose
Lol talking about veganism and cruelty free options isn’t “pushing a narrative” on to someone. It’s speaking up about an issue that’s needs to be talked about. Lol
And no one said skincare is a “one size fits all” lol tha heck are you talking about ?
Hate to break to you but it is actually. Like the age old saying "you don't need to ask someone if their vegan because they will tell you!" @@rachemeatte6727
I'll take Dr. Dray's advice any day. She breaks down individual products that are affordable and keeps it simple. She is more than qualified as a dermatologist.
Than why has she been a non-practicing dermatologist for almost a decade???
@@MSUSPARTANS1973 Where are you getting that from?
@@darryl2542 I’ve answered this question several times already.
@@darryl2542she’s literally mentioned it multiple times on her channel
@@MSUSPARTANS1973 she only does CZcams then or where does she work?
Dear Cassandra,
1. Dr. Dray has mentioned several times that she only has a plant-based diet and never identifies herself as a true vegan. Why does she have to recommend vegan alternatives for products when she doesn't really identify herself as a vegan? (No wonder we vegans get so much hate.)
2. Dr. Dray has already said in a few of her videos that - according to her, there isn't enough evidence to prove that chemical sunscreen filters actually damage coral reefs and that several of those studies actually have massive loopholes. Hence, she doesn't feel the need to stop using filters touted as being dangerous for the reefs.
3. Dr. Dray has also repeatedly mentioned that just because she's using a product currently doesn't mean she would recommend it to others. She gets sent a shit load of products to try (like all CZcamsrs do) by companies, subscribers, in subscription boxes, etc. and she tries to use up as many products as possible because just throwing it away for not being vegan/free of irritating ingredients/unethical is wasteful and way worse for the environment than using a product/brand you don't really agree with.
These are just my two cents - no offense intended. I really didn't want to comment but I felt like I needed to this time.
Also Dr Dray has done at least 2 videos where she boxes up heaps of 'gently' used & brand new skincare & she sends it to women who are living in shelters because of various kinds of abuse & she briefly talks about each brand as she's packing it. I found them to be very interesting even though I'm in the UK & many of them aren't available here (or weren't then). But how nice for those women getting some fab skincare to use & call their own. Some walk in with nothing but the clothes on their backs. She's very kind & thoughtful.
@@junedaisy707 Not totally right. I actually went back & watched one & she put things in that she had a few of & said she would buy some more for herself but let's face it a huge amount of women buy skincare & have no idea of the ingredients, they just go by what the assistant says to them or the way the brand has designed the containers. It's a lot better than just throwing it all away. What would you honestly do if you were in her situation?
@@junedaisy707 Have you watched the videos that we are talking about?
This was such a respectful comment in a sea of rabid dr stay stans lol It's definitely more ethical to just use products that you have vs. throwing them out, however she's still contributing to the sales of a product that is not cruelty free or vegan, and people take Dr dray's word for gospel sometimes. So I can understand why a vegan would find that unethical. Overall imo Cassandra has a point, if Dr Dray could at least just recommend a cruelty free option next to the products she uses and recommends it would be nice and helpful for her viewers! I'm not even a vegan or strictly CF user but there are options out there and it'd be nice to see a prominent skincare figure be a bit more inclusive!
@@THExBREAKFASTxMONKEY I'm a vegan myself but personally don't see any need for a non-vegan dermatologist to go out of her way to use/recommend vegan alternatives in her own skincare routine. She's a medical professional and can be expected to recommend products that are tried and tested on herself or patients - instead of random vegan options she doesn't even use or believe in.
This might just be me but when an incredible dermatologist goes out of her way to offer the world free skincare advice, I gladly take what I can get (and implement as per my own strict vegan standards) instead of questioning her PERSONAL lifestyle choices and morals. It would be extremely hypocritical of me to expect a non-vegan doctor to provide vegan options when the information is being provided free of cost. I would only feel ENTITLED to vegan options if I were paying a dermatologist to recommend them.
Dr dray’s whole platform is helping people find effective beauty products that everyone can afford and find at local retail outlets. Her platform is not cruelty free or “clean”, so if that’s really important to you she’s probably not for you. She has done several cruelty free videos, but it’s not her focus. Her focus is fragrance free, non-irritating formulas and the importance of sunscreen. I think it’s a little unfair to criticize her so intensely for something that just isn’t her platform.
But she’s vegan, and this is HER routine, not just a recommendation video. Just sounds hypocritical to be using products from brands that literally test on animals then claim to be vegan. I understand why some people would use them, price wise etc, but I’m sure she’s rich enough to afford more ethic products.
@@mandarina4157 i agree that it is hypocritical of Dr Dray from a personal standpoint, but her channel is really about education and showing how almost anyone can purchase good quality skin care products at an affordable price. Personally I find it refreshing that she doesn’t push her veganism onto everyone watching her channel though I’ve noticed in more recent videos she always includes a cruelty-free option at the end, usually at a higher price point. Also, if you watch this video you’ll see that it’s not just “oh she’s being a little hypocritical here” it’s a constant eye roll of criticism. I personally found it off-putting, even though I try to choose cruelty-free products myself.
@@mandarina4157 disagree.
@@mandarina4157 some vegans do not consume animal products, but still use them in other ways (like silk)
point is, it depends on how vegan they are
Someone who pays for animal exploitation isn’t vegan.
You literally chose “The ONLY ONE person” on YT who is legite and helping people FOR FREE with REAL CERTIFIED skincare advice. Whatever you thought you were doing, its not cool.
PERIOD
Yeah she has apologised in a recent videos but this was mean and Cassandra has been mean a lot of times
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 😂😂 as a Science student, I agree with that being true and I also was like omg 😱😂 when I found out
@@a.c.m.. oh so its true that spf 50 protects you just for an hour? But then would you agree about applying sunscreen every hour of your day?
I mean .... That would mean if you go to visit a friend just during the morning, you will have to stop every hour and apply cream on your face😅
Lets sy you go out from 10 to 2.
Its already 4.times.
Entire day could get to 15 times.
I am not sure how healthy our skin would be with this among of chemicals every hour.
I agree with making cream which arent natural hundred per cent but sunscreen every hours feels too much like going agaisnt nature to me.
This is my biggest issues with the vegan community, you’re never vegan enough. It gets really annoying fast hearing ‘not cruelty free’ 1000x times. What does that even mean? Cruelty towards the animals? The workers in the factories? The workers who mine the raw material? There’s no way that stream is completely‘cruelty free’. :S Also like others already pointed out these items are super expensive, cheaper alternatives are a must.
Yeah, absolutely. Hearing her berate D Dray for what? Not accomodating her personal cruelty free preferences? Is ridiculous. You can try to spread the message but straight up berating someone for not following it comes across as rude and entitled.
It is also ironic that most vegan(not tested on animals) products seems to be more costly compared to the products that aren't vegan when people say left and right that currently we have enough technology to make products without having to test on animals. You'd think the process of testing the products on animals will take more time and money and thus will increase the pricing, but that doesn't happen. In addition, I have to agree with the cruelty free aspect of the term. There really isn't a clear guide to what it means legally and I personally will be disappointed if cruelty free only applies animals and not people cuz news flash, even if animals are important as well and your pets are too, human lives and the human friends you have ought to be more important.
msk so true!
Imagine that instead of animals, these were human babies... would you be saying the same? "oh how annoying you're already not eating the freaking babies, just let people be cruel and experiment on babies in peace" i bet you wouldn't :)
Lorena Felipe Rodríguez yes, but I find your argument invalid because it assumes I’d care about the animals. Like a great deal of vegans/animal activist you push the ethical side as though everyone has the dame set of ideals. You don’t have to repeat yourself 60000 times, we get it. This reply doesn’t answer my question though. What does cruelty free mean? Everything sold in the EU is already not tested on animals btw, which is a step in the good direction. But people in poor countries still suffer in the great scheme of things/stream of production, are they allowed to suffer?
Honestly, I decided to watch this out of curiosity to see how you broke down an actual DERMATOLOGIST skin care routine. The reason so many people love & respect Dr. Dray is her ability to recommend so many affordable skincare products that actually work. Her channel has grown exponentially in a short time for that reason.
Unfortunately your recommendations are generally very pricey and based only on your ethical views. It is your channel and therefore your choice as to what to promote.
As one of the few actual DERMATOLOGIST on CZcams many of us love her advice on skincare!
@Rache; Meatte Thank you for the input...,
She really could have recommended more affordable products, but there are some cruelty free options available in stores like Walmart and Target at reasonable prices.
Lol the audacity "I've been in the industry for 10 years"vs an actual medical professional who got a degree that took 6 years, did 1 year of internship in different hospital departments, 1 or more years of residency and 4 years of training before even becoming a dermatologist. And then add all the years of medical practice.
What do you mean?
@@NoraHusstad She means that Cassandra is only an esthetician and went to esthetician school while Dr. Dray is an actual doctor. Dr. Dray is a dermatologist and went to medical school for many years to get a degree as a dermatologist. And Cassandra has the audacity to say that she knows better than Dr. Dray about skincare, an actual expert with a degree in it.
Don’t forget Dr. Dray’s PhD on top of all of that haha
Lmao ikr
also she said she stays in the shower to do thinking! lets waste more water 🤣
She is an MD & PHD. I just don’t agree with this video, Dr. Dray is so educated.
Really? She is PHD too?
@@jebberjeb phd in molecular biology from university of Colorado
Yes and she listens to her viewers she recommends products that provides quality, quantity in a very affordable price range...
The entire premise of this video is a moot point
She’s an MD you are not . She has went through 4 years of college , 4 years if medical school , 4 years of residency , followed by a fellowship in dermatology . 13-15 years of schooling and training .
You forgot YEARS in the field, too. The balls Cassandra has
Cassandra like most influenza estheticians specialise in steaming faces and extracting pimples. No more than that.
EXACTLYYU
THANK YOU that doesn’t include the additional years of experience she has in the field outside of fellowship. And Cassandra has “10 years in the field”. The expertise doesn’t come close
@raymond ron it’s such a valid point. It’s such a deeper understanding of cellular biology, organic chem and molecular science that an estheticiansimply does not get in the small amount of schooling . It’s a difference and valid point. Doctors aren’t perfect nor always right. But still an astronomical difference
Dr. Dray has given me hope for my skin. It’s affordable for me because I am a single mom I am a six. She is a dermatologist that has saved my skin and my money.
Same I suffer from pcos and cystic acne and back acne my skin hasn’t been this clear since I was a kid
wow a mom of *six?* props to you ♥️
The more I see of Cassandra the more I am starting to become frustrated at the gimmicky push she gives for “cruelty free.” If people would please look into “cruelty free” they would see it almost does not exist. Also, what do you take issue with? Treatment of workers in factories? The workers who mine the raw materials? Where does cruelty end? There’s no way that products are 100% cruelty free. Or do you take issue with animal testing? Which is NOT how these “influencers” make it out to be. As a researcher, and specifically a neuroscientist, from a safety standpoint you want products that will not be harmful in the long run. If not for animal testing, we would not have the studies that have been published indicating which ingredients are harmful to humans whether it be topically, or carcinogens, etc. Also, research performed at academic institutions or otherwise are performed according to IACUC standards where a group of researchers, veterinarians, and everyday citizens will review the research protocols that are proposed to ensure animals will not be exposed to undue suffering, meaning care is taken to minimize any pain or suffering to the animals. If there is pain or suffering to the animals and the research is not impactful, the studies do not happen because the IACUC protocols are not approved. Also, as a researcher who performed neuroscience research on rodents, at our AALAC accredited institution, veterinarians check the animals daily to ensure they are healthy, are not exhibiting pain, etc. Any rat that is exhibiting any health issues are treated appropriately. Also animals are used for as many studies as possible to maximize research and minimize the number of animals used. There are guidelines that are followed by the institution with the care of animals, and if they are not followed, the veterinarian will report the researcher to the NIH, and their NIH funding and ability to conduct research will be revoked. Researchers cannot get away with unapproved harming of animals without serious repercussions, and there are many checks and balances in place, so people should educate themselves and realize that this fear mongering whether it is by influencers, brands or even PETA (don’t get me started on how unethical this organization/thing is) is typically a marketing/sales ploy.
Yes to allllll of this!
Why is this not a top comment?? If I could like one comment in particular several times, then I would have done it for this comment.
Someone with a brain and actual knowledge. Please, speak of this more online because there aren't many ways for people to know this. Start a blog or something similar where you share this info! Greenwashing and marketing ploys have gone too far.
Yessss!!! Finally someone said it
Yes 👏🏼 💯 thank you for saying that. She was really starting to annoy me in this video
I rolled my eyes so many times in this video.
I rolled my eyes reading this comment of yours
She sounds so entitled
Cruelty free for morale 😂
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 who? sorry i didn't watch the video lol. but that's not how it works, it is recommended to reapply all sunscreen of all spf levels around every 2 hours when outside. when indoors, try to go for that point, but it's more reasonable to reapply every 3-5 hours indoors.
Notice how what she used is very affordable and what you recommended was much more expensive. I understand that you have your morals and ethics but I think Dr. Dray was focusing more on the fact that her viewers might be on a budged and can’t drop 30 dollars on each product
This !! I think the reason why everyone is coming for her neck in the comments is because she’s speaking from a place of moral superiority and it’s gross lol.
And also, most of the products Cassandra are hard to find in my country or 3x more expensive, for example, the ordinary is generally a lot more expensive in my country, their peeling solution costs like 7.5 dollar last time I checked, while in my country the cheapest I’ve been able to find the product is at almost 25 dollars. And that’s just without taking in to account the fact that in my country the minimal wage is of around 250 dollar per month and most people don’t even reach that minimum wage. So while I appreciate what she stands for and while I try to use mostly cruelty free products, we shouldn’t judge people for using them, no one knows what the other is living through.
as much as i love Cassandra, she often refers to products that are $30-$40 dollars as "affordable"... like girl... I cant even afford the product if its $20!!! it has to be 15 dollars or less, for my income...
Because its ad 😂
@Noor and for someone that makes such a fuss about morals and transparancy perhaps she should mention that she does make a commission of people that buy when they follow the link
If you wanted to make a video about cruelty free skincare you didn’t have to drag Dr. Dray into this. The fact that you started off the video saying she pisses you off lmao girl so unnecessary. Your privilege pisses me off.
Are you implying Dr Dray is not privileged? What? This isn’t punching down... and every video on this channel is about cruelty free skincare. There’s no access barrier for Dr Dray to access humane products. Rich people shouldn’t be buying the products she is.
I never once Implied Dr. Dray wasn’t privileged she’s a rich white woman but she also makes lots of videos on affordable skincare products. That’s not saying she doesn’t buy expensive products or only features affordable products. But doesn’t make reaction videos calling out people who don’t use all vegan products. Some of us can barely afford to go to target and buy cera ve.
ugh right! I was amazed at how proud of herself she was at "cruelty free" options to help animals but completely ignored ppl like me who are literally poor. The fact that she has the option to put her "money where her morals are" is a PRIVILEGE. And shes literally shaming anyone who doesn't have that privilege.
I totally agree...love dray
@@pooppoop3595 as much as I love animals I love people more
"Coconut oil, olive oil, vegetable oil...."
Gurl no. I'll stick with Ponds cold cream, mineral oil is not bad
And also, coconut oil and olive oil are a lot more expensive than Ponds, at least in my country.
Mineral oil breaks me out while coconut oil doesn’t, for example. And I only use it as my eye makeup remover not for the whole face! :)
I've been using mineral oil (baby oil) as a makeup remover for years and it is the best EVER. It removes waterproof mascara effortlessly and my stubborn foundation so easily. And I use a salicylic acid foundation so you know that stuff is like a tattoo on your face lol. But I will give micellar water a try since it's popular. I've used countless makeup removers and nothing holds a candle to mineral oil so far. Of course, it's only amazing as a first step before cleansing, it really lifts everything from the skin.
I tried using coconut oil to remove makeup seeing CZcams and i got those little face bumps on my face.
Olive oil blocks pores... 😬
Petrolatum/mineral oil is non-comedogenic, hypoallergenic and protective. I really wish people would stop bashing this ingredient.
Cassandra is anti oil while she makes CZcams videos on a camera and computer that is made from oil product,
@@ProfessorGothic skin care and fuel. Same thing...
I don’t understand why these videos of people coming for Dr Dray keep being recommended to me. Dr Dray is professional, kind, drama free and honest. She doesn’t need to bash any other CZcamsr in order to get views. Keep it classy Cassandra.
Totally agree Dr. Dry is professional. I love her advice.!
DR. DRAY IS THE BEST!!
SHE IS EXTREMELY PROFESSIONAL EXTREMELY SMART AND EXTREMELY KIND ❤️
Greetings Silvia Kenia Urrea hope u r well n so Agree with u n She should also Remember that Dr. Dray’s a Real Dermatologist n Knows Her Stuff💯😀👍💜....
Exactly
Have you seen her fenty skin review I lost respect for her after that 😔
@Dan Thomas no she was rude and sarcastic and disrespectful for no reason she even started of the video rudely and sarcastically.
Yesss queen she is she is such a great person dr dray changed my life
The privilege and classism in this video is astonishing.
Yeah she is acting like the “I am nice but I am really mean” high school girl
Yea seriously this video wasn't it.
Welcome to veganism.
How is it privilege and classism? The products she recommends are usually affordable, and not tested on animals, unlike.... And classism?? lmao chiile, I would love your perspective on this xD
Not sure if you watch the same video we all did
I appreciate dr dray, she is the holy grail of youtube, i wish she was around when i was younger.
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 I get what you mean. However, she does mention that, as long as you’re wearing some protection, it’s better than nothing. Reason being why it’s good to reapply is because when you move around your sweat may rub it off, and it comes off over time. You can reapply whenever you deem necessary. She does it more frequently, I think because she may be somewhat OCD, but don’t quote me on that.
@@aerialtaprootanalysis6117 thanks a lot for your answer! Yes to me if you reapply thre e to four times a day its fine but more than this , I feel it would get to an unhealthy level of obsession, as the sun is what makes this earth exist and its everywhere and it represents life.
I am a red hair so I am in total favour of being protected.
But reaplyimg every hour of your life.... That too me is bringing it too far.
Also she doesn't mention that but sunscreen chemicals can create free radicals too.
Like... Not if you apply it three times a day. But if you constantly apply it, it seems it can weaken your skin and create free radicals as much as when you are in the sun.
@@YFL.111 that’s a good point, what you’re saying makes lots of sense. I think avoiding being in the sun for tooooo long is good. Whereas when u spend all day in the sun it can be harmful. A balance of the two is good. Applying too much sun screen is not good either. Agreed!!!
Sameeee. I am happy young people with horrible acne have access to her and won’t be putting toothpaste and lemon juice and un-diluted tea tree oil on their face like I did ;__;
Dr Dray is the best ever, she is not into the new trends and hype, she gives an honest review.
Period!
After seeing so many “influencers” who USUALLY have a good moral compass when it comes to calling out the bullshit with Celeb Skin Care lines, Dr. Dray is the ONLY one who actually called the Fenty Line out for what it really was, overpriced celebrity schlock you can get from different brands for much cheaper. Everyone else was so timid and trying to give props when it just wasn’t due.
@@katrinaogden9848 Yes you are so correct, some people see it for what it is and some buy into the nonsense.
She’s a hater lmao and her skin is trash it’s so thin lmao
Taay_ Thegreat her skin is trash lmao and thinner than a sheet of paper
It actually "pisses me off" you are recommending products not only double the price but triple. Do you realize that a lot of the people who are watching free videos of a DOCTOR is because they cannot afford paying to see one to begin with? I do not even know what being "compassionate" means anymore in this time...
Exactly!!! There are so much cheaper alternatives!!
I swear esthetician’s die when they see a BASIC routine without a lot of additives or extra crap. Her routine is PERFECT FOR HER and it’s INFORMATIVE TO US. Why she would pretend to find any problem with her routine is beyond me and probably just more ad revenue.
Exactly, plus I am pretty sure Dr. Dray's and Cassandra's population are completely different. Even though Dr. Dray is vegan herself, she is professional and very prudent when it comes to recommending products to help her audience, contrary to making a video with clickbait for viewers. So this video is a little embarrassing to be honest.
@MI LO I see your point but people have different priorities. Being compassionate basically is being able to sympathise and empathise for something or someone other than you and that someone/thing can by anything and anyone. Personally I put emphasis on anyONE rather than anyTHING to put it bluntly. Humans over animals.
Or people who refuse to buy in to the lies of these natural companies
THIS GURL JUST RECOMMENDED VEGETABLE OIL YALL-
*me coming here just to support how great Dr. Dray is*. I confirm my dermatologists advice with hers. She’s literally the best.
Unfortunately most of the products you’ve recommended are expensive. Super goop is expensive compared to other sunscreens. I get where you are coming from, I’m a vegan my self and love animals.But Dr Dray looks at skin care products from a physician point of view. Unfortunately I have found my self that many vegan skin care products are loaded with essential oils that are highly irritating to the skin, needless to say pricey.
the ordinary is vegan and their products are not loaded with essential oils tho :) cosrx, purito and klairs are cruelty free and mostly vegan too and many products are really affordable, they have fragrance free options (especially on yesstyle)
Sophie , unfortunately the ordinary sells what is considered to be raw skin care products, meaning, each product contains a single ingredient required in a skin care formula that will benefit your skin care. For instance, niacinamide or Ascorbic acid in their purest states without any other additives. The Ordinary is giving the consumer the job to play the roll of chemist as the application of some of these ingredients alone will cause severe irritation. There is a reason why skin care pharmaceutical companies hired chemist to measure the ratio of ingredients before putting a product in the market.
ELF is all vegan and has some skin care options. Jason and Dessert Essence have fragrance free options. Inkey list and The Ordinary are also cruelty free. I know it can be hard to find so let's support each other in finding cheap vegan options!
Fenty has a new sunscreen/moisturizer and it’s around $35 and the bottle is huge which makes it worth the price in my opinion also adding the fact that it doesn’t have a white cast. I’m not sure if the ingredients are cruelty free or vegan friendly so you would have to look it up.
Try the Ordinary :)
Anybody who has watched Dr Dray knows she be giving out FREE ADVICE!!! A whole free consultation!!! Girl she’s a whole dermatologist. You shouldn’t be getting mad that she doesn’t use cruelty free products. It’s her decision.
Dry was shaving her face to test the hypothesis 'it's good for you skin'. Very self-sacrificing, but a DOCTOR should know these BASICS without even testing. No shaving your face isn't good!! ...and Cassandra..., I don't know...
wait she gives free consultations????
@@user-ji8ll1qn6o lol no not literally but she has so many informative videos explaining skin conditions/types and how to tell what skin problems you might be facing, how to treat them best, the science behind ingredients/products and how it reacts W/ the skin etc. and also focusing on products that are affordable and available in drugstores for a few dollars
@@user-ji8ll1qn6o I have bad underarm oder no matter what I use. Saw one of her videos, she said You can use PanOxyl acne face cream for your under arm cause it has ingredient that get rids of bacteria that cause bad oder. Been doing for 3 weeks. Guurrrllll, that shit work!!!! Some days I don't even need deodorant. There's no smell!! I been fighting this damn problem over 20 years until now. Thank the lawd for Dr.Dray!!!
Preeech
I personally love Dr. Dray, just discovered her channel recently. I have followed Cassandra for years and I love her as well. My problem with this video (and I'm being objective) is that first of all Cassandra isn't a board-certified Dermatologist and second of all, I strongly dislike the fact that people push their views and morals and people so much, I think it's such a disservice to the Vegan community. Wish more people would understand that. You should lead by example and be respectful of others. I don't think Cassandra had bad intentions because she does seem genuine but she has to realize and understand how that comes off. I don't think she is in the position to be telling everyone how to be vegan, what's acceptable and what isn't, etc. Apart from that I just don't like the comments she had to make on a lot of the products that Dr. Dray mentioned. If Cassandra truly watched her videos she would realize that Dr. Dray recommends them for a reason and always talks about the fact that certain natural products (sometimes vegan products) have ingredients that are irritants and are not the best for the skin, Dr. Dray knows her stuff so I just think it's silly that Cassandra is acting like in a way she knows more. Being objective and real, I just don't think she is qualified to speak like she is at the level of Dr. Dray professionally. I don't think people are being 'negative' in the comments, I think we're just expressing what seems obvious in this video.
I'm glad the majority of the comments are in support of Dr. Dray 👏🏾 you really thought you could come for a real one but it backfired horribly 🤦🏾♂️🤣
*Before this gets brought up in the comments, we were going to nip it in the bud here* For what it’s worth, I’m not here to comment on Dr. Drays diet. If you are, please take it elsewhere.
Nobody knows what people are going through behind the scenes - whether it’s genetic, mental, cancer, other disorders etc. If she hasn’t brought it up, it’s probably something she doesn’t want addressed. I of course want people to get help if they need it, but something I have learned throughout the years changed me in a funny way. I have not been diagnosed with an eating disorder, or heart condition or metabolic condition that causes my body to process nutrients differently.
I have dated women in the past who have struggled with eating disorders. Although I can sympathize with them, I could not empathize with them. What I learned from those relationships is that comments, constructive or positive, can often do more harm than help.
Even kind or positive words get twisted in peoples minds and can often lead to worse outcomes. For me, it’s strange and counterintuitive but it’s something I respect.
*Again, not saying or insinuating there is an Ed or any condition here because we have no idea, and honestly it’s none of our business what people‘s medical history is*
Of course I want people to get help if they need it, however there are certain instances where it’s counterproductive to discuss publicly.
Dr Dray is an amazing source of skin care knowledge, has such a sweet personality, has lots of energy and vitality, and is someone that I am so grateful to have in my digital life!!
Unless she makes it my business, it’s not my place to discuss. I’ve said it in the comments multiple times, that I don’t block people - they can call me names, rude things etc. but I believe in freedom of speech.
That being said, anytime a comment attacks someone else, for their race, religion, sexuality, appearance, or other things of that nature, there is no doubt that they are blocked.
It’s not OK to judge and disrespect people for their differences. I do believe that most comments come from a place of kindness and compassion, but I think it’s important to remember that things can be taken out of context and hurt overall.
If she wants to discuss certain things, I’m happy to watch her do so in videos. If not, my comment section is not the place to have those conversations.
Agreed. Let people live, please. Speculation is out of hand and not okay.
Totally agree, and if you notice she looks so much healthier than around a year ago, so I think whatever she’s doing is working. People just love to gossip.
Hey Cassandra! I'm doing a video on my fav skincare youtubers! May l have your permission to include you in the video? I love your videos ! I hope & pray you see this!!
Great that you're taking the time to say that, but honestly I loathe ANYkind of these reaction videos, they are just another part [perhaps not the worst, but a contributing component] of the toxic online culture. It makes it normalized to turn someone into an exhibition and pick apart their choices for the reactee's benefit.
KYESHA KNOWS SKIN you are so kind! Amazing of you to ask haha, but yes of course! Comments, compliments and criticism are always welcomed on me!! 🦋🥰💋
Dr Dray recommends affordable products. Cereave has literally saved my skin & it's not expensive.
And made my skin bad 😂 (Cereave) but skin is different so 🤷🏼♀️
And Cassandra is only pointing out her thoughts. Nothing more to force you buy what she uses.
Maybe is good for your skin, but just sooo painful and deadly for animals!
Just be a bit of compasion, could change animals life for the better!
Cassandra also recommends cheaper products then cera ve but you have never watched her have you?
@@arixxa7065 The obsessive Dr. Dray fans attack anyone who questions Dray. It's so tiring and creepy!
Dr Dray is a board-certified, published dermatologist: you are a CZcamsr who likes to use graphics of molecules and scientific terms in order to look like an expert.
Sorry. I've just undubscribed. Holier than though sarcasm is ugly
PREACH
And who is she? Cassandra?
She is a medical esthetician*
I don't know ppl, honestly. Yes, they get 'certified' , 'promoted' etc. or get popular on the CZcams, but how do we know in either case what's better approach.
This video reminds me of the time Susan Yara boasted that she could go head to head with Dr Sandra Lee 🤦 Both Susan and Cassandra are way out of their league here.
Dermatologists recommend mineral oil because it's anallergic, while vegetal ones aren't, doesn't go rancid and is a good barrier for skin. Dr. Dray too talked about this on a video.
I love that you brought this up because I have skin that’s so sensitive that the only moisturizer I can use is mineral oil based. I’m allergic to latex, salicylates and benzenes and oxalates so plant oils are NOT compatible with my skin. Acting like coconut oil or vegetable oils are just as good as mineral oil is hella privileged and extremely uninformed.
I know absolutely nothing about skincare and I really don’t like Cassandra’s tone here, but for some reason, mineral oil breaks me out in cysts, I have no idea why. Ugh.
Haunted Mushrooms ASMR could just be too heavy for your skin? I’m not sure, sorry. I can only use mineral oil products for the most part but my skin has severe allergies. Maybe your skin is allergic to it? Because the allergic reactions I get are cysts and hives. If that sounds familiar then it could be an allergy 😬
Jen Green Aw thanks for the reply!! It might be too heavy for me, it’s such a shame because it works so well for so many people! I guess I might be in the very tiny minority who has an allergy! Damn! Thanks anyway!
Nope keep Dr Dray the way she is. She's one of the few CZcamsrs that actually bring value to my life rather than trying to take my money. I'll be vegan when I can afford it.
You must have missed her sponsored videos selling stuff she condemned in other videos. She was hawking a $160 pillow the other day during a pandemic. She got it for free. Real sensitive of her when people lost their jobs.
@@susanc9525 exactly because she was obviously thinking "I will sell a 160dll pillow because of how many people have lost their jobs", the fact that you're trigered for someone selling something you don't have to buy means your personal life must suck and you're just salty for not being to afford it even if you wanted it
@@susanc9525 how exactly is that insensitive? Stop trying to look for something to hate on dray. Your logic literally makes no God damn sense.
By that logic it is also insensitive that there are CZcams Ads, and Television commercials......
People still have to make a living, she is not forcing people to buy whatever she sponsors, very few times has Dr dray sponsored something as expensive as that pillow, from what I have noticed she sponsors pricy things that she would normally use herself. She once sponsored a humidifier, she has ezcema and would benefit from one. So it seems she wouldn't sponsor something that she would use for herself. To me that is authentic of her.
No offense but being vegan can actually save u money 😅 big misconception that it''s expensive!
@@emmal2578 Thats false. Veganism is a tricky lifestyle even if you disagree. Often times you have to buy certain foods and supplements to keep you on par with someone who eats meat and gets a good amount of their nutrients from meat and dairy. Veggies and fruit are not enough, nuts are EXPENSIVE, tofu, plant milks, and special vegan packaged foods are growing in demand + becoming more expensive. And depending on the state and city you live in being veganism becomes an expensive luxury. I live in Boston and being vegan here is not cheap...
A lot of vegans under eat , when you're vegan you have to actually eat twice as much to reach your caloric and nutritional threshold and that honestly adds up on a weekly basis. This is coming from an ex vegan that developed an eating disorder and got severely ill.
Dr Dray mention it before in a couple of her videos she don’t often recommend vegan or cruelty free brands because a lot of them are nonsensical by adding a bunch of extract and essential oil, natural or clean. I rmb she mentioned it in her Ceramedx video. She sometime will sprinkle cruelty free products if they also fragrance free and affordable and she is aware of them.
She mentions them all the time. Did you know "Cruelty Free" is *NOT* regulated or enforced by anyone? Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. The FDA _does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label_. Companies can use them however way they want. See article: _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_ by Suzana Rose. If she wants to go after anyone, go after *the companies*, not Dr Dray.
Honestly, Dr Dray has saved my skin! I love how affordable the products she recommends are. I was going through really bad "maskne" and since using products like Neutrogena and Cera Ve my skin has been looking great!
Ponds is $3 and works great. Her recommendations are $18, $24, and $32 for a similar product. Sorry, but anyone who doesn't understand why that's an issue isn't someone I'll be taking any kind of advice from.
Wow, those are some ridiculous prices. There are far cheaper cruelty free products like The Inkey List, The Ordinary, elf, St. Ives, and even Dove has a cruelty free label on it now. Cassandra needs to recommend cheaper cruelty free alternatives if they are even available.
But its cruelty free
😂
I always used baby oil, a cheap lotion or conditioner to remove my make up esp eye makeup. I never bought into the pricey make up removers but if someone wants to that is cool. Just not for me.
@@nikkib473 I have sensitive eyes and I use the generic Amazon eye makeup remover, and it works perfect even on waterproof mascara. I can't imagine spending so much money on something that's immediately washed down the drain.
@@perlalopez206 cassandra said it herself, “you can even use olive oil”
so why are you asking me to spend so much when i already have what i need o the kitchen?
Girl, Dr Dray is more qualified than you. She knows what she’s talking about. I am not saying that you have no knowledge but you keep repeating the same things over and over again. Be humble, change that tone and stop criticizing other people’s choices !
+1
Soukaina Zoubir it is that Cassandra feels a know it all
Ikr imagine judging a dermatologist lmao🤡
Exactly like mrs.dray got a PhD and she has the audacity to criticize her!!!
👏👏👏
Saying “But if you want to spend more money on products!” in that snarky tone after you just spent 25 minutes recommending much more expensive products than what she was using is so hilariously hypocritical
Lmao I eat vegan, am in medical school, and use cerave, cetaphil, and drugstore products. I also take several medications that are not vegan! She has her MD and PhD, like come on.
the passive aggression in this video....girl relax.
When is she not passive agressive? As much as I want the information, terrible to watch.
@@thamiresmilanes7049 yes in most of her latest videos she is like this is annoying
Omg! I thought it was only me that found this girl very irritating to say the least!
Thamires Milanes ikr she gives the worst reviews
She is bitter for some reason
I graduated Pre-Med at UCLA and will be attending Med-School this month. As an aspiring doctor... I’m speaking up for all of us. Your condescending behavior is not cool. Becoming an esthetician is no where near the amount of work as becoming a doctor. You’re giving yourself way too much authority to judge a respected DOCTOR on a biased level. You’re pushing your morals and ethics during this “critique” instead recommendations based on FACTS BACKED BY ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC STUDY.... This is just poor taste. You should take this down. I seriously have second hand embarrassment for you.
As a healthcare worker, I cringed while watching her videos. She obviously does not understand how we work in the healthcare industry.
Chat B. I totally agree!!!
As a 3rd year medical student... EXACTLY
Can't help but thinking bout Ben Shapiro's "facts don't care your feelings"
More like "facts don't care your vegan moral and ethics"
I have to agree picking on Dr Dray because she isn't using only vegan products shouldn't be a picking point. It should be that the products are good, affordable and facts focused.
She’s a dermatologist and you’re not so I trust her over anything you say.
Well Dont watch her videos...
You're NOT A DOCTOR. PERIOD.
Who
@@furious7754 Cassandra
@@benji4780 show proof of her degree and Dr. Dray. No proof at all
@@furious7754 Cassandra has no degree and dr dray was practicing as a dermatologist in Houston.
@@benji4780 show me proof though of dr. Dray
Funny how an esthetician thinks she knows more than a dermatologist
Am I right, its wack!!!
Well, she does. Does Dray even practice anymore. Can't find a license renewal if it exists.
@@susanc9525 Dr dray is board certified she studied for 12+ years for her title, she's a lot more truth worthy than some youtube beauty guru
@@fashionovawigs that's not what Susan meant. Even though I trust Dr. Dray, you have to get your license renewed, skin care science is literally changing every week, new things are discovered. So if you were a dermatologist 5 years ago but havent been renewing your license you might be a tiny bit outdated on your knowledge. Of course you can always learn on your own as a professional without the license and just use your background knowledge to guide you to the right directions, but we should be careful regardless. Skin care advice from 2 years ago from a professional will not be as effective as advice from a pro today.
@@fashionovawigs she hasn’t renewed her license.
I’ve only seen a few reviews of function of beauty that were not sponsored and the majority of them claim that after using it for an extended period of time, it was making a significant amount of their hair fall out or otherwise damaging it. I would love an unsponsored video in the future if that’s possible.
Omgggg yesss
I heard that it was linked to their due formula, but hair naturally falls out. I have a significant amount of hair that falls out because of how long I wait in between shampoos. I’ve also heard most people say it made them decide to wait a longer period of time in between the shampoos which can increase the amount of hair that comes out. Also how often you brush ur hair and so on. So many different factors play in to that as well. Hope that helps a lil bit!
Hailey Jay thanks for your input! 😊
Wow, this is shocking and I actually really appreciate you bringing this up - I have heard of this from other companies such as Diva curl or Monet, but never from function of beauty is Ash if you have any links that I could look into, I am more than happy to look into this, do some research, and followed up with a non-sponsored post discussing it!
I hope you know that even when posts are sponsored I remain brutally honest and upfront throughout the whole thing, that being said I haven’t seen any hair loss personally. At the same time, this is worth looking into and I appreciate you bringing it up!!
This happened to me!!!! I chose it because it offered sulfate free dye free and scent free and even a silicone free option. But it made my hair try tangly and a mess. It’s not necessarily worth it. It lets you choose 5 hair goals but there are no restrictions. Chemically it doesnt make sense for it to claim to respond to each of these goals individually.
Im over the hype
Cassandra, honey please get your moods under control. It is a dermatologist, not a serial killer. Relax, you are right. So is she.
Dr. Dray saved my skin, she is the one that teach me about differin, how to apply them, how to reduce the inflammation period. If there is no Dr. Dray i have to go to the dermatologist and we all know how expensive it is. And I believe I’m not the only one who was helped by her video. So NO, her products is not ✨basic✨ it’s useful to people
I've been a medical aesthetician for 8 years and I love dr dray I love learning from her! Without dermatologist there would be no aesthetician you need to humble yourself honey
She complimented her like 30 times
You need to humble yourself boo boo. Dr. Dray is one dermatologist and is just one voice. Cassandra stated she's worked with others who have different advice from Dr. Dray... do those physicians need to humble themselves too because they go against Dr. Dray?
@@hmacklemore2226 actually you need to humble yourself because your tone through just a comment is very rude and condescending. If people like Dr Dray, that's fine. If they don't, that's fine too but there is no need to be disrespectful.
@@hmacklemore2226 First of all, you’re weirdly obsessed with Dr. Dray.
Second, I’d rather get the advice directly from a dermatologist than dermatology advice filtered through an esthetician.
Yeah I got hater vibes from this girl.
Dr dray typically isn’t a fan of eye creams and thinks they’re useless. It looks like the only reason she’s using that product is because she’s basically using it as a concealer. So it’s not that it’s an spf or cream just for the eyes, it’s that she’s using the tint as a concealer, and because it has sunscreen & is more of a tint. she probably prefers that to an actual under eye concealer.
Yes exactly! I don't think that Dr Dray likes makeup. The only real makeup item that she uses is mascara, but other than that she uses tinted sunscreen as "foundation" which is kinda funny to me bc I used to wear a lot of makeup (typically concealer) to get some coverage for my pimples, and tinted sunscreen barely does anything. I like the point you made because context is everything!
Exactly. Shes said this multiple times that she doesnt think eye creams make a useful difference.
She use it because its free product from companies and fans
I think Dr. Dray says plenty about cruelty free and Vegan products. Dr. Dray just doesn't leave out the other products that still works. She gives a balanced view cause not everyone cares about cruelty free or vegan products, some people just want something that works. This lady needs to chill, Dr. Dray has her own way of explaining these products.
I love how not a single comment here is dragging on Dr Dray. Everyone knows Dr Dray's worth. If you thought you'd be eliminating competitors you chose the wrong person.
Mother f'ers act like they forget about Dre
This, exactly.
lmao she literally says she loves and respects dr. dray but go off
@@kbyeforever this entire video says otherwise
I don't care. Dr. Dray is my favorite youtuber..she has done amazing things. She has helped me understand things I've been confused about for over 30 years. I'm forever grateful for her!!!
So true.. She has taught me so much about skin care. I love Dr Dray.
While I respect the opinions expressed in this video, Dr Dray recommends AFFORDABLE and ACCESSIBLE products. It would be nice if there were more accessible and affordable and affective, cruelty free options but unfortunately there is not. And to be honest not everyone is willing to risk using coconut oil on their face. So to each their own. Not everyone wants to pay that kind of money for the more “ethical”, “vegan” products especially in this day and time where most people need to save a penny and their face!
I couldn’t agree with you more on this! And thank you for bringing this up, and back to the forefront of my attention. You’re totally right - it’s so frustrating, even when I’m trying to find duplicates for some of the drugstore favorites, to see the ridiculous prices of some of these things - identical ingredients, but what is cruelty free and cost three times as much. Hopefully this is something that the industry can fix super soon!
Affordable not so much! Function of beauty cost 60€ for a standard pair of shampoo and conditioner, it's not so cheap.
@Ra-hel Sadiq in Italy actually
I find it weird that cruelty free and vegan skin care products are uncommon in drugstores in the US. Here in Korea, they are absolutely common. And they're very affordable as well. I heard from Americans in a Facebook skincare group I'm in that Walmart sells some Korean skin care products. And that their prices are affordable. I hope it can be helpful to some of you all.
Doll Face this is amazing, and I wasn’t aware of Walmart! Definitely have to look into this. Yes, it’s amazing how inexpensive cruelty free products can be overseas. I wish that the American market would take a hint! I will definitely look into some of these brands and really appreciate you bringing this to my attention!
Girl I don't know what you did in this video, it was not the mood. Energy was too combative, not everyone's main concern is cruelty free.
should be :)
I really respect cassandra a lot but when she celebrates things being "GMO free" like a Karen I just can't lol.
As a geneticist and molecular biologist I work with GMOs and there is just absolutely zero reason for why everyone demonizes it. Especially not by categorically saying they are something you wouldn't want. Hhhhh this makes me so angry
Well, dr dre brought it up xD
@@davidmiranda4745 you really seem to be in love with everything Cassandra says. You don't seem to be able to stand any criticism of her.
@@aesinam Wait, in that case, I'm in love with what both Cassandra and Dray says. They both say it xD Did you watch the video? :P
Dr dray is so so reliable I cannot take someone else’s advice
Bisexual Misanthrope she debunks all of the “influencers” advice and recommends affordable things.
@Bisexual Misanthrope they’re on the IG explore page because her and other skincare youtubers made them popular
@Bisexual Misanthrope it's there because dr dray made it there lmao. For example cerave. But if it sucks dr dray will give it to you straight facts for example rihanna fenty skincare literally the most popular skincare. No one dared to say the truth being afraid they will get cancelled by riri fans.
Yes...her recommendations are also so affordable and available
@@ba2988 lmao just because she washes her hair everyday doesn't mean that she's not qualified to give good skin care advice lol tf
I just watched Dr. Drays video last night. It's like 8 months old but I never get tired of her videos. I went on a Dr. Dray binge last night til like 3am. Lol.
Greetings Diana Moore hope u r well n just like u I’m on here to c what’s Being Said.... cause I Totally Love Dr. Dray💙n I Dislike Any1 Talking Smack about Her.... cause To Me.... She’s a True Treasure that Deserve Total Respect💯👑🙏👏....
Dr. Dray rocks! She is the real deal.
Dr.Dray is very professional in what she does and I absolutely respect her. She knows what she’s doing. She is a very intelligent woman. Great content and tips she provides for us.
Is funny how you call yourself an "expert" when you are about to react to a professional who actually is expert in this field: an actual dermatologist.
There is no more expert when it comes to skin than dermatologists, and "medical aestheticians" are way below their level of knowledge, quite the corage to refer to yourself as an expert while criticizing dr Dray in the same video, wow
We are licensed notice how she didnt say she was a physician. I myself am an esthetician and know a lot of what dermatologists know. I recommend products based on your current routine. I wont make you buy expensive things, I recommend things both on an esthetician level and a dermatologist level. It all depends on your budget. You hire me to help YOU. I have done many skin treatments that have actually worked and healed my clients acne and made it go away rather than use medications that change the DNA. Stop sitting on us like you know how to do our job.
@@melaries1823 I happen to know, and the fact that you 2 even try to compare your tiny knowledge to a PHD dermatologist is extremly offensive for anyone in this field except for rock bottoms like you who are frustrated for being the lowest tier and want desperately to feel superior but you are still the far bottom of this field, do not compare yourself to even a dermatology bachelor ffs, your knowledge compared to it is 0.0001%, but to a PHD dermatologist? You are off charts literally, your knowledge doesnt even reach 0.0000001%, dont be so full of yourselves when all you know is flat out basics. And you say you know "a lot" of what dermatologists know? You think dermatologists spend way more years of studying and have actual degrees because they study the same than you at a slower pace or what? You know the pure basics, that is NOT "a lot", your tiny knowledge is not even comparable. If you think you are on pair with the degrees I invite you to take the tests and get your own phd, but you just can NOT pass with your current lack of education.
You are comparing qualification level 8 (the highest most specialized and advanced) with level 4 (SOME factual knowledge in BROAD contexts), and these qualification frames convert to the same proportional equivalents all around the world, her phd will always be the highest most advanced and your... *cough* not even bachelor, will always be some tiny knowledge in a very broad topic, so please don't make laugh
@@flyingcloud2677 oh please stop with that dermatologist Bs. If they were so great, they would have effectively helped my acne. I went to four of them and they weren’t able to properly help me. The third one even worsened my situation.
But the first aesthetician that I went to (out of despair ) was the starting point of me healing.
I don’t care that derms have the "science" and go to school for 10+ years. If you’re not able to help your patients, you’re worthless. I don’t trust them anymore.
Because of my experience, I pick Cassandra over dr Dray any day (whose skin is not beautiful to me btw)
@@dimitrifranck exactly. What they recommend makes my clients skin flare the heck up. But when I make recommendations based on what they are currently doing, I come up with skincare treatments which ultimately help them in the end. I am certified in many machines that dermatologists cannot use in fact. Why are we more successful in treating their acne then? Why do dermatologist have estheticians? Get over it with the phd bullshit.
@@flyingcloud2677 if you think that then why do dermatologist have estheticians in their practice? We do more of the actual skincare treatments then actual dermatologist do. We use machines that they cannot use, and are not certified in. My treatments actually work because I don't recommend products that make my clients skin flare up the minute they use it. Dermatologists are not successful in most cases so they send them to the estheticians. I dont give two shits about a phd or not I know what the hell I am doing. I studied my ass off, I did my training and had many jobs behind a dermatologist. So sit down with that and worry about yourself and stop judging other peoples jobs. No one cares about your opinion because they are not facts.
but why are you so condescending? I am very tired of estheticians thinking they know more than dermatologists.
I think aesteticians have ego issues.
"Pissing me off "- because of the vegan options. I can't help this is over the top. Dr Dray said "oil based cleanser". If there isn't a vegan choice, a consumer can Google vegan cruelty free oil based cleanser. This aestheticism doesn't realise that people watching Dr Dray have the ability to also think for them selves.
I consider myself a liberal but.... This women is bloody insane.
@raymond ron constructive criticism often doesn't come with a side of attitude and undertones are really disliking someone else. Constructive criticism comes with respect and a desire to help out someone in your field. Constructive criticism does not mock, it does not rant, it does not deviate from points initially made and go off at length on other points indicating miscommunication.
Science has its faults, yes. But constructive criticism in any industry can be handled with at least a modicum of respect and what I've already mentioned. Pulling faces and mockery and every thing else you see (being socially aware and having a general amount of EQ, you can see the mannerisms and undertones in this video, I think most people pick up in these things.)
So it's very easy to see that actually this aesthetician either really disliked Dr Dray, and/or dislikes people who have "proper" qualifications in the industry. She clearly has a chip in her shoulder about being an aesthetician. And that's HER problem to sort out herself, it shouldn't be made clear in a really unprofessional way like this.
I probably would be condescending towards someone too if they were promoting abuse towards animals. Actually I get pretty pissed off and extremely sad when animals are tortured, abused, and killed...but that's just me.
@@Newuser000 no need for the snark. Dr Dray didn't exactly outwardly say: buy products tested on animals. She gave options based on the effect on the skin. And price.
You have a voice - you wonderfully demonstrated and shared this, and it's fantastic! And don't forget : everyone has their ability to choose. I prefer cruelty free vegan products too.
But that doesn't mean as soon as I watch Dr Dray, I become brainwashed. I stick to my ideals and my preferences and I use my critical thinking skills - as you yourself just demonstrated - to say : okay, I'll look out for a product like this. Or with this ingredient, or a product that has a similar function to what Dr Dray is talking about.
So, yes it's a shame that Dr Dray doesn't mention purely CF and vegan products, but remember, others that watch her may not have the financial ability to choose CF, Vegan products. BUT. For those that do. We can use her skincare advice and apply her facts when we are browsing for products that fit our own ethics and morals. First and foremost Dr Drays job is advising us on skincare. Not about ethics. (Yes, others mention both. But that's out of choice. Some people don't like having political or ethical discussions on social media).
Remember, you have a voice, others have their voice. And the best way to use it (in terms of products) is to vote with our money, choose to buy CF and vegan products. Outside of that, researching politicians and their stance on animal and human rights and their voting history, and then voting in elections, is another way to use our voice.
I’m an Esti and I feel the same way. These CZcams Esthetician’s are annoying
I want to see the doctor evaluate your skin care routine now 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly.
Greetings Maya hope u r well n so Agree with u n She should Remember that Dr. Dray is a Real Dermatologist n Knows Her Stuff💯😀👍....
Whitney Brown she really does!!! Cleared up my entire eczema and Dr. Dray doesn’t even know it :)
Maya * she cleared up a lot of my pcos cystic acne too 🥺
She also helped clear up 99% of my acne after I screwed it up by using too many products and having to wear a face mask for over 8 hours.
She's sharing her personal skincare routine. She doesn't use many cruelty free products so why would she recommend them in the video. Also isn't coconut oil meant to be horrible for the skin? :/
I think left on the skin it can be but as a first cleansers its ok then you follow up with a second cleanse, something that breaks down the oil.
Coconut oil shouldn't be bad if you follow with a good cleanser. SHOULDN'T is the key word, keep in mind everyone's skin is different. Personally I've used olive oil and coconut oil as a first step to get rid of waterproof mascara and it's never posed an issue for me, but my skin tends to be very resilient so I wouldn't recommend it for everyone
Depends on your skin type. I'd be super cautious in using it if you're super sensitive with other combo issues like dryness, or acne thanks to masks.
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 yeah it would, however it's fairly true all sunscreen has to be reapplied every two hours to get benefit from it. Hopefully in the future they'll be better
I don’t know why u had to pick on her routine ? she’s doing her best with drugstore products and does a great job explaining them too … She’s sooo good and clever . Her content might be basic in derm world but we don’t know the basics. That’s the problem 😅
Dr Dray actually does recommend many vegan and cruelty free products when they exist and could be alternative to some not cruelty free ones in many her videos, no matter whether she uses only cruelty free products or not. As an youtuber, she is testing a lot of products for review and she probably changes her routine constantly. She moved on to other cleansers already. If you watch her empties video you would know.
Exactly this is what i notice but many youtuber want to show us that they are the lords of the world and try to '' diaboliser'' people who dont follow their which they call values.
@@MsSousou11 Exactly! I find this particular video hypocritical. We need to check ourselves before criticizing others.
I think she knows what she’s doing because she went to school for 10 + years to be dermatologist
Literally. She went through med school and an extremely difficult residency, I’m sure she knows what she’s doing as she’s been one on one practicing this. Like I don’t get why people who only have an interest in skincare have to make comments against doctors that know what they are doing. We’re lucky that Dr. dray recommends affordable skincare or affordable alternatives.
@@hp8962 Okay girl. I have seen quite a few of your negative comments and I'd just like to state that: Even professionals can be criticized. Cass is a medical aesthetician; therefore, she is also qualified to discuss skin care. She's not just a hobbyist. Aestheticians (more so than dermatologists) are the ones who usually look into skin care actives and off-the-shelf products. Dermatologists are doctors and they learn about skin care illnesses, it's not a dermatologist's job to understand skin care formulations. My point being: Yes, Dr Dray obviously has a lot of experience in skin care, but so does Cass. I'm a computer engineer, and guess what? Despite the fact that I am an expert in my field, I also occassionally receive criticism from physicists and programmers. Being an expert in your field is great, but you might not be the only expert. Give Cass some credit, she also has 10 years experience in the line of skin care.
Dr. Dray would never make a video like this. So many things you said was so offputting. Dr. Dray has helped so many people with affordable alternatives. Not everyone can afford to buy expensive stuff. She cannot accomodate everyone. And to spam her comment section is just ridiculous. It pisses med off that you actually get pissed of by her choices and content. It is HER channel, not yours. You can decide what your content is, but SHE, and only her decides her content. I support Dr. Dray and trust that she does what she can to accomodate as many of us as possible. She is the best one on CZcams by far.
Amen to this. Very well said.
Exactly!
Wish i could like this twice.. she gives so many options and tries to please everyone while also being so respectful of peoples values. Cassandra wss just trying to show off.. get off your high horse.. nothing is 100%. Cruelty free
^^ YESS!!!!!!!!
@@annyfascia Exactly! 🌼
Than again this is dr. Drays skin care routine that works for her skin. Thats why everyone else needs to do whats best for their skin type.
She keeps mentioning that the products that dray uses are basic and that the products that dr dray Is using won't help people with acné or hyperpigmentation. Thats why dr dray has other videos on that topic. This is just her skin care routine that works for her.
i’m gonna go ahead and say what basically everyone else is saying, but i feel the need because i looked up to you in such a short time span.
i started watching your videos maybe two months ago when i started getting horrible acne and wanted to become educated on skincare. you and dr dray have both helped me so much but i am extremely poor and really desperate for things to take away my acne, your recommendations are overpriced big time.
and saying dr dray is “basic” is a little low, yes there is products with actives and she’s talked about those before, but for people like me- with acne prone skin, not all of us respond well to actives, my skin got so much worse after using actives, even after the purging should’ve already ended. since then i’ve stuck to a basic cleanser and moisturizer and spf and nothing else and my acne has calmed down and gone back to normal.
and lastly, i understand your views on cruelty free products and being vegan…unfortunately i am not wealthy enough to afford only being vegan and getting products other than cerave, even cerave gets too expensive for me sometimes. i’m also autistic and cannot handle eating vegan foods- my safe foods all have some kind of animal involved and i cannot help those things, if i could i definitely would and id be vegan. but forcing your views on others is a little unsettling, not everyone CAN be cruelty free and others unfortunately just don’t care and nothing you say will fix that. i’m sad to see you talking about a certified dermatologist like this…you were my favorite skincare youtuber
Wonderfully said
“Shes kinda been pissing me off”
GURL..... you did NOT just DRAG an ACTUAL DOCTOR just because she isnt “cruelty free” love your videos butttttttt nope
I totally agree but we also shouldn’t just blindly believe every single thing a Doctor says as well.
@@MK-dj5vz very true sometimes we have to do our own research
Cassandra has a really strong point: Dr Dray is a vegan.
However, dr Dray being a vegan a way of weight control (orhorexia) and not being anti-animal cruelty. Dray's 'what she eats' vid are about eatng a lot of and low cal meals, and ways to feel full.
@@argoneonoble she's plant based, she follows a vegan diet but she's not vegan
I totally agree with Cassandra, I love dr dray but I find some of her content useless because I wont use products tested on animals. Cassandra has a really good point! So many people are CF now & vegan for ethical reasons, so if dr dray recommended more CF products it would help a lot more people xx
Idk man, an esthetician reviewing the product choices and recommendations of a board licensed MD dermatologist it's like a spiritual astrological guru reviewing an astrophysicist lecture about gravity and relativity. Yeah, that's how stupid this is.
Or someone who flips burgers criticising Gordon Ramsay's cooking.
@@bmth607When the burger flipper gets to Gordon Ramsey's level of training, he/she is welcome and entitled to say what they like. There is no discrediting the level of knowledge if it is not in the same league. Until then you reach that level of achievement, be humble and respectful.
Its like a hygienist critiquing an orthodontist, or a nurse advising a surgeon. Its just so distasteful and really SHOWS more than anything how little she knows
she did mention her profession and that she doesn’t claim to know more. she just wanted to react to someoen she stated she looks up too. but however i do think she seemed condescending and overwhelming with her tone.
Is like a "coach" talking about psychologists, lol.
I will never understand how you have more subs than Dr Dray. You don't hold a candle to her.
Because she makes clickbait videos, sadly that bs gets more attention than actual informative videos
Not anymore :)
Well, I guess it's a good thing that aloe is vegan and cruelty free. You'll definitely need it to sooth the burn from getting DRAGGED in these comments!
In any event, Dr. Dray is a treasure, and she keeps it real without being annoyingly perky. I love her!
Calm down ❄️
Such a good coment .. bravo
Dr Dray talks about ingredients, what might be helpful or not, reviews products, has one or two snide comments about certain brands, or shares mundane but fun stuff like her finds shopping at Costco but I don’t recall her going around talking about or reacting to other channels and that is great. That is one reason I enjoy watching her videos. Wish others would do the same and stick with reviewing or reacting to products, not other CZcamsrs because frankly, to do so is boring and unhelpful.
Yup. This video sucks and I’m sick and tired of her doing dr.dray reviews.
Sunscreen is very expensive when you're applying it three times a day.
Monique McCain especially on days when you don’t even go outside.
you only need to reapply it that much if you're actually outside for long hours
skeletondance no you should re apply at least three times no matter what, unless you live in a windowless box
Mark's World if you’re sitting by a big window all day that’s different, then yeah reapply because you can literally feel the uv rays. But if you’ve got curtains and you’re not going outside again then no you don’t have to. Use your logic.
And ruins makeup
If you go to a dermatologist! They won’t recommend a vegan ! They would recommend the best things
I will watch someone’s own routine and push my own opinion on people. Truly it’s her choice to recommend the products she wants to recommend you don’t have to wine about her not recommending certain options. She does mention the ingredients to look for in a product and the ones to avoid so if you want cruelty free, check the cruelty free products with or without the mentioned ingredients. Do your homework, she does not owe you anything and doesn’t have to do it for you. She’s doing us all a favor to even mention and talk about everything she talks about.
"Cruelty Free" is *NOT* regulated or enforced by anyone. Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. The FDA _does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label_. Companies can use them however way they want. See article: _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_ by Suzana Rose
She acts like she is the actual doctor with a PhD and Dr. Dray is the esthetician. And stop preaching all that cruelty free, it's so annoying, not everyone can afford those things, atleast Dr dray recommends stuff that we can all afford and she offers drugstore brands. She preaches what good for our skin and her videos are very educational. This video just seemed very passive aggressive where you you are trying to find faults in her and when you can't find any you go off on those cruelty free thing.
Just don't pretend you can't afford the Ordinary, thanks.
Perfectly said👌
@Dan Thomas Yeah sorry, the ordinary or the inkey list or good molecules, there is ton of them if you search like one our on the web
@@matildematrix7290 have you been to Asia? None of those brands exist in my country or neighbouring ones. To hell with your first world supremacist arrogance bruh.
Asima Nayak I second this, and even though some shops carry the ordinary in my country, they have super high price points that they cost almost like high end products
I’m honestly just shocked at the high horse this woman is on. Getting views on CZcams does not mean you are qualified to judge a dermatologists personal skincare routine. What a joke this is.
Amen to that statement!
Its not the only thing I'm mad about. We all know Dr.Dray loves function of beauty for her hair. I haven't yet come across recommendations for another brand she has done (feel free to recommend in case I missed). Yet Function of Beauty had the AUDACITY to partner with Cassandra on a video that is dragging Dr.Dray by the hair. It's ridiculous.
I feel like ur taking this too seriously, I like many other people feel strongly about using more cruelty free and vegan products where possible. Cassandra is just recommending similar products which are less harmful.
alison ross I mean that’s just her voice, have u never seen her videos lmao
She’s a Doctor Who does online sponsorships with brands who cater to influencers so.... she also does not disclose if she’s currently in practice
Don't just use any kind of oil for oil cleansing, Google the comedogenic level of what you want to use first and make sure it's ok for your skin type x
I always got weird vibes from this channel because she's recommending a lot of overpriced or useless products and only seems to make content for upper middle class women. I still liked to watch her videos from time to time but I just discovered this video and oof. Dr Dray isn't above everything else and it's ok to criticise her but this video made me cringe so much. Just so embarrassing
Why is having morals considered elitist and inaccessible? Cassandra doesn’t support violence against animals, and tbh, Dr Dray claims not to either as a vegan yet recommends products that have caused animal suffering. Maybe don’t watch the channel if you don’t have ethics?
@@ladycaticorn2950 Yes she does. Everyone does, including you. Maybe not with words but with actions. Most vegans just lack the critical thinking skills to see how their life negatively impacts animals and the environment. You can't escape it unless you go to Tibet and become a monk. You are literally posting a comment to a server supported by batteries that's lithium came from strip mines that stripped the very environment of life of all kinds. 1) I have never heard Dr Dray's reasoning for being a vegan.. it may not have anything to do with animals. 2) Every single product has caused animals suffering. Every single one. Cruelty free just means they didnt directly test on animals. But that does not mean the gathering of ingredients used did not either. Where do you think they get natural oils? It doesn't just come out of the air. They come from plants or seeds or nuts, and the people who collected them didn't give a shit if animals were around.
You don't give a shit about ethics, you just want to morally grandstand because you are a narcissist with a superiority complex.
@@An.Unsought.Thought Wow, you really want to talk to me about veganism. Two comments from you. I'm flattered! Again, you make weak arguments in an attempt to paint veganism as delusional when, in fact, choosing to go vegan is rooted in logic, critical thinking, and moral alturisim. I recognized that I love animals and do not want them to suffer when we have a plethora of plant alternatives thanks to science. I acknowledged that I had been behaving in a way that did not align with my values because society normalized animal exploitation, abuse, and suffering to me. And I changed, even though it was hard. How am I morally superior when I admit my own fault and acknowledge that I needed to change? Furthermore, as I have already addressed in my other comment to you, veganism does not eradicate all animal suffering nor does it suggest that such a feat will happen. The Vegan Society defines veganism as "a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals.” This definition does not indicate that all forms of human and non-human animal suffering will cease to exist because people become vegan. The point is that we can actively make choices to dramatically reduce the exploitation, suffering, killing, and abuse of non-human animals for food, entertainment, cosmetics/skincare, science/medicine, and clothing. You are desperately trying to invalidate my arguments by suggesting that I cannot stop all animal suffering or that I have contributed to animal suffering. You are right on both counts. But that's not my point. If we know that causing animals to suffer is wrong (because we agree that it is cruel to kill someone who doesn't wish to die, especially when their death is not necessary for survival), and we can do something to limit the amount of harm we are causing, then we are morally responsible for making changes. In your case, you'd rather live in a world in which everyone shoves their heads in the sand and does the bare minimum, claiming that striving for change is futile because suffering and inequality and death exist. I call bullshit. You wouldn't tell abolitionists that they shouldn't fight for the emancipation of enslaved people because racism and racial violence will still exist following abolition. And you wouldn't tell someone that they shouldn't try to reduce their carbon footprint since climate change is happening. But you say this about veganism because going vegan requires that you admit moral-wrongdoing and make changes. You'd rather not do that, so you'll call me stupid, narcissistic, and any other ad hominem to discredit me. And to your point about computers, I cannot do my job and survive without a computer. I can, however, survive without consuming animal flesh or secretions, wearing animal skin or fur, or supporting animal testing. You appeal to futility, but futility does not negate moral responsibility.
@@ladycaticorn2950tell me you're crazy,unhinged and your only personality trait is being a vegan without telling me you're crazy,unhinged and your only personality trait is being a vegan
Your lengthy ridiculous comment:"I'll go first."
As a physician, I am deeply disappointed in all the disrespectful attitude towards a certified dermatologist, who makes products recommendations based on scientific evidence and the cost-benefit that implies adherence and better results. Also, how absurd to recommend a papaya cleanser, instead of the inexpensive and effective alternative of Ponds. Just because it isn’t cruelty free. Papaya is a highly allergenic fruit... Anyways, everyone should evaluate what kind of influencers they follow. I definitely will NOT follow such irony and unfounded disrespect.
Karla Alejandra. Recommending animal cruelty is not being a good influence. Some people have basic ethics. Many poor people care about animals, assuming low income people want to cruel to animals is also messed up. Just recommend cheap cruelty-free products.
I believe she is draging Dr. dray for no valid reason and she is not a doctor herself, and actually esteticiants as her, not her, ruined my skin more oftenly, as on the other hand dermatologists are doctors and know much more not only about the skin, but about health. She is recomending coconut oil, how can it even be recommended for people with sensitive and oily skin... Just use simple skincare. Cleanser, cream, spf and one active at a time, that's all
@@jaclynmccosker I think the OP is saying that she should have suggested something that isn’t damaging to many people. Just because something is cruelty free, that doesn’t make it good or healthy. Something can be cruelty free and not damaging.
@@jaclynmccosker being cheap and cruelty doesn’t mean its good for your skin or will work.
@@cj-pe5mjhence asking Dr Dray to recommend cruelty free products that work. People with ethics want skincare, too.
Reviewing other people’s routines while staying classy and kind is truly an art... which you haven’t mastered yet. And btw I don’t watch Dr. Dray, so no, I’m not defending anyone.
we must have watched two different things!
CB can be a little condescending
@@sexystranger2935 As she should though! Like when did abusing, torturing, and killing animals be like a totally cool thing? Like - NO - that's fucking whack!!!
@@Newuser000 being condescending isn't effective at having someone understand and come stand with ur opinion
@@TheFergo911 Maybe, Just maybe Cass (or other animal rights activist, or influencers in general) don't always create content with YOU in mind. It's not always about you infinitus, or doing whatever it takes to effectively make you understand that abusing animals is shitty.
This entire video comes off as all kinds of privileged. Most people don’t have access to a dermatologist. Dr Dray gives her time and advice for free, and offers the most affordable options. Then you come on here and making a video not only trying to disregard that but offering vegetable oil as an option? So if you’re poor just use vegetable oil because it’s cruelty free. That’s why I can’t stand the vegan community. They put their blinders on and act like everyone is living the same experiences as everyone else.
Did you miss the part where she complimented her like 30 times ?
@@lucia4916 Lucia complimenting someone and insulting them in the same sentence is called being passive agressive, nice-nasty or just straight up gaslighting
@@Andrea-dm4gd critiquing someone isn’t insulting them
This didn’t age well, function of beauty is now being recalled
Dr Dray has my skin looking awesome omg thank God for her.
Mood 🙌🏻🥰
The more I learn about cruelty free beauty the more I realise it almost doesn’t exist, especially on the sustainability front. I enjoy a lot of your content but i find this video slightly hypocritical.
That's what I always said!!! Cruelty free is just not 100% possible in this world. It just isn't and will never be. With that in mind, it's still important that products are not tested on animals and stuff like that, but there is no need to get obsessed over it. I agree :)
Samanta Rizzi I’m not saying it’s impossible, it very much is possible and unfortunately companies that aren’t necessarily currently cruelty free are the ones who have the funds and resources to try and prove to places such as China that have a ‘list’ of tested ingredients to consider finding alternatives for testing. but I’m not going to judge someone for recommending a product that’s good and affordable, it’s more important to recognise when someone’s using fear mongering. It’s such a fascinating but equally frustrating industry especially in America that’s so behind Europe in terms of science and regulations.
@@Gresaaa It's not possible. Again think about where those ingredients come from? Plants? Where do plants grow? In the fields .. so for making those fields what are they doing? They have to make room for it, that way some animals lose their homes, some get killed during this (think about how they cut trees from the forest in order to make room to plant plants that will give the right ingredients to then gain profit with them)... so even if it's a natural ingredient there is no way it could be 100% cruelty free. Nature doesn't work like that. You can have whatever opinion you want I know I'm right about this because we studied these things in school. Obviously Europe is better at the regulations, but we're far from being perfect when it comes to animals and nature! (I'm from Slovenia)
skeletondance i don’t know it’s just me but where i live there’re many affordable cruelty free vegan products, that are qualified as those 2 for many reasons and have reusable packaging that u can donate for them to recicle
@@samantarizzi248 it absolutely is possible... 😂😂 you both sound ignorant and uniformed. period.
It is a privilege to buy & have accessible Cruelty Free products. I wish I could but I can't afford it. I'd like to not be bashed for my not cruelty free products. I get the passion & the frustration but it does make me feel bad & guilty for not being able to afford Cruelty Free products. Once again I know she is mainly criticizing Dr. Dray since she has more options to go cruelty free but at the same time she's offering us flexible options, affordability & gives her honest opinion. I don't feel bad after watching her videos like I did with this one😖I hope to go cruelty free in the future but for now I have to use what I have.