Recessed Lighting Install with NO ATTIC ACCESS - Led Lights, Dimmer Switch, Separate Fan Switch.
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This video is a VERY DETAILED, FULL LENGTH step-by-step tutorial showing my thoughts, design and even struggles of adding LED (Pot/Wafer/Can) Lights to a room without attic access. Also shows how to run a new wire through the walls to power a new fan. Show how to run wires through the ceiling joists. Also discusses drilling new holes in the ceiling joists to run a new wire.
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00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Plan Overview
03:22 - Opening Up Drywall to Run New Wires
07:15 - Project Products and Tools
08:52 - Disassemble Electrical Box and Label Wires
12:48 - Planning Wiring
16:06 - Running Wires Though Ceiling (Part 1)
23:46 - Cut Can/Pot Light Holes in Ceiling
32:43 - 6' Joist Drill Bit
34:39 - Running Wires Through Ceiling (Part 2)
38:10 - Ceiling Fan Mount Install
44:22 - Can/Pot Light Wiring
49:02 - 3-Gang Electrical Box Install/Wiring
50:48 - Dimming Switch and Final Testing
53:17 - Final Results
54:50 - Outro - Jak na to + styl
Added Chapters to this video:
00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Plan Overview
03:22 - Opening Up Drywall to Run New Wires
07:15 - Project Products and Tools
08:52 - Disassemble Electrical Box and Label Wires
12:48 - Planning Wiring
16:06 - Running Wires Though Ceiling (Part 1)
23:46 - Cut Can/Pot Light Holes in Ceiling
32:43 - 6' Joist Drill Bit
34:39 - Running Wires Through Ceiling (Part 2)
38:10 - Ceiling Fan Mount Install
44:22 - Can/Pot Light Wiring
49:02 - 3-Gang Electrical Box Install/Wiring
50:48 - Dimming Switch and Final Testing
53:17 - Final Results
54:50 - Outro
16:37 I was always taught to push the fishtape by itself to it's destination, then tie a string to it, pull the string back through the ceiling/wall and then use the string/muletape to pull the wire. It seems the way you did it makes it extra hard, as you are not only having to fight the fishtape going all wonky, but also the wire. Double weight, double friction, harder to steer, double hassle all the way around.
Thanks for the info in your comment. I think its a matter of personal preference. Were I to do this again I think I would do it the way you explain.
I second this, (I see your comment saying you would do it this way next time). Another way to do it (if you don't have any string or extra wire to use) would be to go the opposite way (if you can). Push the fish tape from the fan to the wall and pull it back to your destination. Once you opened up the ceiling in the bathroom and had that access above the top plate, you could've sent the metal tape from the fan side, fed it through the hole, pulled the wire back to the fan, and then just backfed the wire down to the switch. Interesting how there are so many different ways to do things...
As a journeymen electrician I can say you did a few things a little different than I would’ve but you did a very good job!
You must be a terrible journeyman
@@bradmcmurray4038 I guess I’ll go cry man🥲
What would you do differently?
@@reggieoverton121 I would use a Milwaukee Hole Dozer
@@bradmcmurray4038 his been nice by saying that I'm jw as well n I would of done it different cus I know was up
15:29 If you're needing to measure any kind of wiring, measure your wingspan. Put your middle finger on the metal tab on the measuring tape and stretch your arms out as wide as you can get them (most people will probably be around 5'). My wingspan is 6'2". Instead of measuring with the tape like you did here, and knowing what my wingspan is, I just pull the wire out and take wingspan to wingspan measurements. I count each "pull" as 5' so I know I've got some built-in slack. If your wingspan is 5' or less, just pull once or twice more than your anticipated measurement. Easy peasy.
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good job ! Armchair quarterback comment , if you change the 2 wire to a 3 wire so the fan always has a hot feed , you will eliminate the fan going thru the START/LEARN cycle. It does this do to the power/light switch shutting off power to light/fan total. Also on the new 3 way switch you added , correct the BLACK connection ! seize down screw/wire is on wrong side and not turned clockwise. Looks nice with the finished project !
As someone who comes from a country where any electrical work needs to be performed by a licenced electrician, it was good to see you coming up with some good solutions for the problems you came across. Fans going backwards though 😂
Amerriicaaaaa.... Hahaha I live in the US now from Australia and the amount of DIY you can do without it being frowned upon is crazy
What country did you come from?
This video was super helpful as I am looking to do something similar and dont have access via the attic. Only difference is I have zero ceiling fixtures to piggyback off of.
You’ll just have to run new lines. I do show that really long drill bit, which should help you out.
Good job man. What a process!
Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed and learnt something new for myself.
Wow! I watched this video as eagerly as a TV show. The job you did is a little above my expertise, but it’s still good in watching your thinking process in solving the road blocks in installation. The lights came out beautifully and opened the the room up. I saw the head tilt when you said “make your own video”. The internet trolls are real. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
"Setting the mood.....Oh yeah!" - love it.....good video
I installed ceiling fan into my daughter's room. Uninstalled the annoying LED saucer light had the forethought to buy some 12g electrical wire and wire nuts but forgot to buy a junction box. In any case measured center of room and found out that the spot that was needed was right on a joist so mounting fan was easy as pie and just had to run about 3ft of wire to the new spot.
good tip on making hole over existing hole - there are other more complicated methods but yours seems to work
Thanks. It turned out splendidly!
Very good video. I followed everything you did. Great job.
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Very nice step by step instructions 👏
Thank you! Thanks for watching
Thanks for this video. Great job
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Good job.
that was an awesome job thank you I also install for lights and Each corner with a fan in the middle and you made it possible by showing me how to do it thank you very much great job
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Thanks and I liked the details
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Nice video. Just one thing, Raco makes a ceiling fan mount for your joists. No need to glue wood to your joists to make the fan mount bracket work.
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Good catch on that line. This is a prime example of why blind drilling is an absolute no no. It's scary seeing the amount of youtube videos where DIYers drill through joists blindly like it's nothing. Also a good call on ditching the wafer lights. I have the exact recessed lights you went with in the four inch model in my home. When I tried one wafer light I immediately knew I wouldn't be able to stand their look with the glare they give because they're truely not recessed.
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Thats a hell of a job man. hope someone appreciated it enough to cook u a good meal , back rub, while feeding u grapes and fanning u with a big feather. Cuz thats work! Too many jack off corporate professional E-mailers and powerpoint slide creators in the world now-a-days. Not enough "real world" skills left out here.
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Wago wire connectors. I use and love them for home DIY.
I wish they were a bit less expensive.
And I found what I needed (and expected) here about 33:00. Thanks!
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I know a lot of people are teaching people to start the hole drilling without teeth. However I find it easier and faster to use the teeth , but the tip is to start the drill going before you make contact with the drywall. In addition I used the same exact catch bowel and it’s a bad design. Once you get drywall dust in there it clouds up the bowl making it much harder to see where you are trying to cut.
I agree about the bowl, but sure does help to not make a drywall dust mess.
Another step that minimizes hole saw binding is to NOT put even pressure on it when first contacting the drywall/working surface - as in slightly tilting your drill so that your hole saw has pressure in one spot/section of teeth at first and then gradually bring more of the teeth into contact with where you're cutting.
great video, thanks!
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That’s why is a good idea to use good practice when doing electrical wiring like roughing new construction because I would have pulled a 14/3 to the light for future use or for the tan install, so now you got to do all that work and cutting the walls.
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That was dope, I tried to install these lights but my wiring wasnt compatible with the ceiling light I purchased
Did you find an alternative?
Thoroughly enjoyed the whole video. Nicely done…although I might need to see the follow up video where the dimmer switch “sets the mood”. May need to take notes!! 👍🏼
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Here's a little-known hack. Sometimes you can wire the LED recessed lights into lighting wire of the ceiling fan controller output. The fan remote could then be used as your dimmer. This would eliminate the need for new switching. End result wouldn't have been as nice as having new switching, but it saves a whole lot of work.
Cool suggestion. Though I do very much like having the fan on its own switch. Also think it is a better setup for resale purposes.
You didn't have to run the wire and tape through both holes from the bathroom, you only needed about five feet to go down the wall to the switch, you could have just pulled that 5 foot down after pushing the wire through only one hole.
There are also dual switches that can be put in lace of a single switch, so you wouldn't have to add a 3 gang box on the wall.
Yeah I was going to say couldn't you just put in a double switch instead of putting in another switch . It'll be less work.
I wanted a separate switch for the fan to match other rooms in the house.
Any chance you have the link to other other lights you ended up going with? I am in the same boat, want to have some uniformity with other lights that were installed. Thanks!
www.homedepot.com/p/Halo-LT6-Series-6-in-Selectable-CCT-3000K-5000K-Canless-Integrated-LED-White-Recessed-Light-Trim-Direct-Mount-Dimmable-LT6089FS351EWHDMR/316522126
I'm glad you didn't use that puck light .. the baffled style looks so much better.
Nice video and I watched it fully like movie! Do you have video of how you patched the drywall you cut in the bathroom and fixed the minor damage in drywall near the 3 gang switch? I'm more scared on the drywall things, as it is hard to finish like before you know :)
I did not include that part of the project. I was scared too and the fear of the path work delayed this project for a while. It really was not bad at all to do. To repair the hole in the bathroom, I got a piece of drywall from Lowes and cut a replacement piece to size. Then I used this to fill the cracks and sand it down smooth: amzn.to/3Ge5aS4 For the damage around the gang box and filled it in with the drywall putty, sanded, and painted. You really cannot tell there was ever any damage. Just takes some time to build up the putty and let it dry and sand. Fortunately for me I had paint from the builders and knew it was already going to be the right color.
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Cudos brother. This is a decent sized job that many wouldn't attempt without any electrical wiring/maintenance background. Try to leave a flag in your tape so it's easier to remove. Fiberglass pull rods are a good investment, lightweight, most glow in the dark and coke with attachments like hooks, magnetic ect. They go hand and hand with a fish tape. Same thing goes for pull string. Only critique is your fan is rotating the wrong direction.
I have the fan going that way intentionally. Better all over airflow for the space. Can easily be changed with the press of a button on the remote.
@@DIYBRY interesting, I thought it wouldn't have created very much air like that but if it works, it works!
@@shawnphillips1220 Because I have the fan so close to the ceiling, it forces the air up and out around the room. I have thought about putting in the 3” drop rod and reversing the spin direction, but I think I accidentally threw it out when picking up the garage.
Why did you not change the light switches? I recommend to install TP-Link Kasa switch HS200($15) or dimmer HS220($19), and buy Alexa($35) to control them.
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Appreciate it. How far is the led from the end of fan blades. To prevent strobing?
End of fan blade to the can lights? They do not overlap and I have never seen any strobing.
@@DIYBRY Ok thanks. Just wanted to know the distance.
@@waynegomillion4976 27 inches
@@DIYBRY Ok appreciate it.
I dunno about the screw driver,... but I always carry around a "Nice, Big and Long one" ;)
That’s what she said!
I didn't see where you got the power or 120v for the fan as the original setup only had two switches two 120v wires.
It is all in the wiring. The same power source that is providing power to the other switches.
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Could've fished the line to where you want wire to end up and then attach the wire and pull it backwards to where you plan to wire it.
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So the hole was already there? In the plate
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@@DIYBRY the hole that u fed the wire up thru to go in the ceiling, the hole in the wood, behind the peice of wall u cut out.
@@malawigold747 The hole in the floor joist (for the floor above me so in this case, the ceiling) ? Those come per-fabricated with holes you can pop out.
@@malawigold747 The hole going up through the top plate? Horizontal 2x4s stacked into of each other? The hole and a wire was already there. Your situation might be different.
@DIY•BRY yes that's what I was referring to, didn't see you drill it. Thx!
That.s what she said…lol!
Those clips you mentioned that go on the ceiling fan box are called plastic bushing, and the orange connectors on the lights are called Wago push in nuts.
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That’s what she said 😂😂😂
Why didn't you just connect the new wires to the old wire that was disconnected from the fan? You could have used that original wire and just extended from it and used the original wall switches!!
Which is basically the end result of what I did.
your ground wires in switch box should be twisted together.
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Take the fans down and you can see where the joists are. Just pull what you need from box through to hole. Waste of time to measure runs like that.
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Great Job👍🏽My Question To You Is Why There Isn’t No Insulation On Your Ceiling And Is Snowing Outside 🤓 APRILFOOLSNOW
Can you help to arrange downlighting in my bedroom ? I will send the plan you on wattsapp
I do not use WhatsApp
@@DIYBRY how do we communicate ?
@@DIYBRY i have a bedroom, the length is 4,88 m and the width is 3,61 m, how many spotlight do I need and how to arrange them ? Some people suggest me to put 12 spots and others tell me 6 or 8 are enough.
@@hocineted7594 The room shown in the video is a comperable size (slightly larger) and I am only using 6 lights, which really is plenty for the space. Especially when the lights are set to 5,000k for the color setting.
@@DIYBRY i am using spotlight of 5 watt that produce 500 lumens and the temperature is 2700 kelvin, so 6 or 8 are enough ?
Good vid.just too much talking
Noted
Too much talking for just litlle job
RIGHT?
Like I say, feel free to go make your own video 😎
Also if you see that the wire feeds threw the joists then you know is not gonna be stable 100% all the time, the holes count as a strapping means , as of if it was ran parallel to the joists then yes it would have to be staple to the joists.
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You know you could just have gotten power for the fan from one of those switches right? With out installing that other “fan switch” unnecessary extra work, especially if you have a fancy one with a remote, the remote is all you need as the main means…. Good video though, I enjoyed watching.
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First of all, just hire a professional like me, we would never cut up walls just to see were the wire goes, we use a wire tracer , I’m going to comment as the video goes.
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