Shooting a Suppressed Sten Gun
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- During World War Two, the British spent several years developing a silenced version of the Sten gun for special operations commandos and for dropping to mainland European resistance units. This is a recreation of one of the experimental types, based on a MkII Sten with the receiver lengthened into an integral suppressor. So - how does it shoot?
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"Let's shoot a few in semi-auto."
Couple of two or three round bursts later...
"It appears not to be in semi-auto.."
It's a Sten gun. You don't actually expect it to work properly, do you?!
Sten itself was not a bad weapon. It was the quality of its components that was causing all the trouble. Let's not mix up the fact for people to believe Sten had a terrible design that causes serious malfunction.
The first was a burst the second was single shot. The movement of the bolt also feels like a recoil so a single shot will feel like two rounds
I shot a Mk. V and it would always stop firing a burst after a few rounds. Not jamming, as it would immediately fire again upon pulling the trigger. Something seemed to be causing the disconnector to stop the bolt even when set in full auto.
@@JohnnyCasey Did you ever take one apart in RL like me ? , I dont believe you did . and i can say that its not really well build . but it works .
@@Thonglover37
You happen to disassemble the low quality Sten that has "supposedly" pass its minimum for all I know. This gun is basically a steel pipe with a spring, so anything can go wrong.
My point is - properly made Sten wouldn't be causing malfunction that the people on the internet always like to shine them.
ok, so it works in semi-auto, or full-auto, but what about full semi-auto?
You are a couple weeks late with that joke.
but this was my first chance to use it on this video, so, hopefully my tardiness can be excused.
@@LYLEWOLD You never go Full Semi-auto.
"Fully semi-automatic"
@@robertkubrick3738 Once I played with a semi-fully-1-round-burst-bolt-action-double-barrel-flintlock BB gun
I've played enough Wolfenstein to know you're totally wrong about the silenced sten. It works great in full auto and the only problem is that it overheats.
Also it has the highest DPS than any other SMG, even Thompson (and used cheap 9mm). That was huge disappointment when i saw it in real life and how ugly and unreliable it was
@Jared Monseur Oh yeah! And the heat bar :-))
Yea the gun is so good you can beat any mission whitout getting recognized
🤔 sepertinya begitu, jika anda dalam peperangan... Tapi jenis senapan serbu, that weapon is cool...
Walk like "Gangsta"...
Wkwkwk...😆
I like that weapon...😄👍
People who learn firearms history from video games, will criticize the guns in real life
"shooting sentries or dogs" sounds like it would be an ideal arm for the ATF
My grandpa did always refer to silencers as "Hush Puppies".
Great for women holding infants and kids also maybe send some to the FBI as well
jjohnston94 that’s why you shoot them before they bark and make it clean so they don’t get a chance to yelp.
@@jjohnston94 I've played MGS3. Can confirm.
Dogs? Send some to PETA too,
Return to castle Wolfenstein flashbacks..
Good times.
Came here for this. Was actually surprisingly OP'd and speedrunners often use the gun.
Oh yeaaah. This and the FG42 were my faves
Damn right, my favorite gun in the entire game
@@caffeinatedinsanity2324 Memories of Enemy Territory. Oh baby that game was amazing.
Mk V might have better handling, but the Mk II has the iconic look.
Just wrap some cloth around the grip on the mkII and you got yourself a slightly more comfortable pistol grip
Angry tube
And that somehow makes the Mk2 better?
@@cohenday1377 Yes, per the rule of cool.
I could care less what you think man lol I really could I don't care one tiny bit man none at all
You and these auction houses have symbiotic relationship. Both benefits
letting him come and do videos on the guns they are selling is basically free advertising to them. he gets videos and they get feet through the fdoor. win win :)
Mutualistic symbiotic relationship. There’s three kinds of them. Mutualism is the one where both benefits.
"It's a Sten so the ergonomics are..."
(at the same time)
Me: "F**king terrible"
Gun Jesus: "...not the greatest."
I'm glad we have plastic and better manufacturing tech. A mil-spec AR grip costs like $3 on Cheaper than dirt and probably costs a lot less to manufacture, and has far superior ergonomics.
Alan Mason cheap and easy to make which was the whole reason for the sten in the first place
Gun Jesus. That's good.
petition to change CZcams name from Forgotten Weapons to Gun Jesus
Gun Jesus lmao
I heard a story about a German commander who got his hands on a suppressed Sten MKIIS and to show his subordinates who effective the suppressor was he had them walk out into a park in the middle of the night and have a soldier fire the weapon nearby. Apparently none of the other officers were even aware that a gun had been fired.
The GERMANS had no need to get a 'silenced' STEN because they had always had their own version. Next time you go and shoot a STEN try shooting it DRY and then tell me that you cannot hear it. The BOLT makes quite a clatter!.
@@alberthall8148You got schooled.
@@Dafttar . Why would it use a BRONZE bolt - the only one I ever saw did NOT have a bronze bolt or any kind of LEATHER BUFFER either but it did have a far lighter RETURN SPRING Did I fire it? No because Mk1z ammunition was not navailable . THINK about it the MK1Z LOW VELOCITY ammunition if fired as pretty much the same as the ORIGINAL LUGER 9mm PARABELLUM. There may well have been some intent at the design stage to use bronze and leather but LEATHER mechanism in a BLOODY FIREARM? Any way there wewrte relatively few ever made and eb ven fewr used operationally simply because if operationally you were down to Sub_Machine guns noise was NOT a primary consideration, Not only that but for clandestine operations there were far better choices available.
Before you have a go I do realise that there was also a SUPPRESSED STERLING but once again relatively few were ever issued.
The punchline is it was during an air raid takeoff
Ian: is holding a suppressed, open bolt, full auto sten
The ATF: *has a stroke*
Wasn't meant to be shot in full auto because it could wreck up the place. Proceeds to shoot in full auto lol.
I think he only did so because it's not an original WW2 sten, but a 70's reproduction.
I doubt he'd have shot auto with an original unless he had the owners permission.
He had gun set to semi-auto, but it was shooting full auto.
The guns a 70s repo he would of has permission
Its probably because this Sten replica uses machined baffles instead of baffle pieces.
It is more burst fire then going all out
In Afghanistan I got to shoot an Egyptian variant of the STEN. It was pretty cool. Especially how simple it is made. Like someone could make one at a hardware store.
I live in the UK, there is a shop near me that used to own a STEN that was built in a shed during the 50s I think, but it had to be deactivated before it was finished
mate fun fact, a lot of the war time stens got made by toy manufacturers. so ya you are right very little tooling need to make then
Google LUTY
All you need to repair a "parts kit" that was torch cut is a round metal tube and some light welding skills.
Jake S Try your garage. You only need the bare minimum of tooling to make a Sten gun.
Don't let the Sergeant Major see you holding it like that.
Well, he's left handed so holding it by the mag would be quite difficult
man of culture! yo gotta hold the mag!
Apparently holding it by the mag can make it jam way more and damage the gun.
Aren't you supposed to not hold it by the mag?
staryoshi06 It was the most common hold. But stens' really lacked handles.
There's something so pretty about the sten, minimalistic maybe, I know this one's had a finish put on it but even just the shape and the way it operates, beauty in simplicity
I LOVE the background you do on all the guns you fire/examine.
I'm shocked at how quiet it actually is. Normally suppressed guns let out quite the sound.
Usually I don't get the "Watch me shoot a gun" channels, but your knowledge of the history is truly interesting. Very cool
@Jake Cain You don't need to be into firearms to enjoy Ian's content. Ian isn't a "watch me shoot a gun" presenter, he is about educating the masses about historical firearms. When he does fire a weapon it is a treat, probably a special treat for him too. Anyone interested in history would find his content worthy and enjoyable to watch unless they detested studying any history with firearms. He has done everything from flintlocks to the latest weapons and all educationally unlike a certain Texan with a Barret Light .50 BMG and many many other firearms who just shoots things for clicks.
I wasn't expecting how quiet that was. Crazy.
The flat profile of the sten was prized by soldiers on both sides as it could be fired from a prone position without the magazine or grip forcing the soldiers profile/head up above often limited cover (grass). Try shooting an MP40 prone for comparison.
Dear lord that shoulder stock looks about as ergonomic and comfortable as Karl's shovel-grip AK stock.
The STEN gun has a special place in my heart. I think its a stunning gun, made even more beautiful by what it represents.
You mean it's a STENning gun!
$7500? Someone got a killer deal on this.
IKR!
Buy a kit build it yourself around $300.00 minus silencer if you can find the kits. Full auto takes more machining on bolt if you want semi- auto. Knowledge is power and they can't arrest you for knowledge. P.S. not reccomending you do it the ATF will be after you.
@@basilmiller931 lol
Wow, that certainly is a deal. I was thinking to myself, that's gotta be a 5 figure gun. Decent investment too
@War Zone I bought my registered mk 2 for $600.00...
But then again, it was back in 1989....lol Runs like a top with good mags and full power ammo...You will have no end of problems with light loads...
Congratulations on the 1.5 million subscribers Ian !!! And keep up the good work !!!
Live in Westbrook Maine. This is the year I go! I would love to meet Ian sometime his manor and delivery of information about old firearms is second to none.
Full auto was for "shit we're compromised, run!" mode
Did it have a bronze bolt? Supposedly some used the bronze bolt on suppressed guns to delay the bolt opening a bit longer so it was slightly quieter.
No, standard bolt. The real ones had lightened bolts and slightly shortened recoil springs.
They did use cast bolt's because little machining was required.
Erilen a cast bolt?
That sounds pretty weak. But then again I guess it’s a small cartridge.
AuSten's used brass diecast bolts (along with a diecast magazine socket and butt stock mount. AuSten's were also fitted with suppressors.
You never disappoint. Great video!
The beauty of the simplicity.
OK. From a trained WW2 Sten gun user and passed on to me, just for information, when I used the STEN's successor.
The left hand holds the fore end palm up. Not the magazine housing and NEVER the magazine. The standard barrel shroud is spaced away from the barrel and pierced for cooling so hot barrels are not an issue. In the case of the silenced STENs (which had no such cooling and would get too hot to hold if used in any extended firefight) a laced on canvas cover was issued to keep the left hand from burning. The girls in the factories tested STENs holding the magazines but this allowed them to find magazine housing faults that would manifest themselves if the user held the magazine. It never helped that the troops tended to use the magazine lips as bottle openers and their grandchildren were still doing it 40 years later. Darwinism is not always effective.
Thats just as stupid as American soldiers using their M1 helmets to boil water, thereby losing the heat tempered effect and significantly weakening the metal.
@@tostie3110 As opposed to drinking bad water and getting dysentery or some other water born illness?
@@tostie3110 your really think those helmets protect you from any high velocity projectile
thats why you see pictures with cloth wrapped around the grip
Alright seriously though, you think the man who built ForgottenWeapons from the ground up and does all the research to produce thousands of obscure firearm videos, doesnt know this well known fact about the STEN? And he literally makes note of why he does it in the video, and uses it as a teaching example of what can happen if you do. What more do you people want from him?
Did the semi auto mode not work? was the selector backwards? What was the issue? We never see you shoot in semi auto. The auction page doesn't mention anything about it.
I went to a Militaria fair a few weeks ago and held one of these and they feel so nice to hold and the magazine release is in an amazing place.
If a silenced gun hurts your ears like this, I don't wanna know how it must be firing a magnum pistol in a closed car, like in some action movie...
Life changing, your likely to get some permanent hearing damage.
You actually get permanant hearing damage from shooting a
.22 without ear pro, albiet slowly
edi had a buddy shoot a coyote out the passenger side window from the drivers seat with a 22-250, shattered the windshield with the blast
Oh man I shot Marvin in the face
Grutte Pier Interesting. I once tried to calculate what type of weapon could do this and from what distance. I've heard of canons that killed people from their muzzle blast alone and deglassed every building within a mile.
What I've found was that normal rifles should be able to break glass and instantly rupture eardrums from distances closer than 1m. What I couldn't really calculate was the distance a shot would be still clearly audible, as there are too many variables.
Rommel claimed to have received a captured one that was completely silenced and you could only hear the bolt moving
I suspect he was close to deaf.
@@ForgottenWeapons subsonic ammo + hearing impaired from long service in armour near loud engines and big guns + background nosie...
I love the stens. It's very likely because of bias since I'm English but apart from that I really like how shit it looks. It's just a gun that was really easy to make and something about the barebones of its design is really cool, kind of like a car that has no body just the wheels, engine, steering, brakes and chassis.
I'm totally with you on this, and I'm a yankee
@@lolzormachine I love the sten, and the US Grease gun, both have that look. god I want one
It's almost dieselpunk, just a very "industrial" looking design
I love the magazine and the stock/grip so much oml
I'm from the us but it looks so cool along with a mp-18
Further on the grip. I always saw in the movies (I know...) a palm-down grip on the mag. THEN I read about gripping the receiver, as you did at first. NOW, I learn the 'palm up' grip of the mag well is the *correct* way. Bits of info like this is what make your channel stand out!
That is not the correct way too hold a Sten. You should hold either the receiver or the barrel jacket.
Suppressed Stens normally had a insulated sleeve on the suppressor, so they could be held correctly.
Yet again you show me something I had no idea existed! So Awesome!
This is like an upgraded welrod.
wrong.
That would be the DeLisle carbine, which was truly silenced, like the Welrod.
Completely different function. He has a video on the welrod i myself didnt know about the rubber baffles before.
Came before the welrod technically by 10 years, so you have it backwards
@@user-wc7vn6uz9h 10 months maybe. Both developed and used in WW2.
Okay, if that is the actual sound that that gun makes when it fires, that is perhaps the quietest gunshot I've ever heard.
6:39 I love the way the main spring just wobbles all over the place XD
Love your videos. Thanks for sharing!
*Secret-secret-agent Ian*
How dare you, Sir, test this Sten while not wearing a para smock, or a blue and whit striped shirt, with a cigarette dangling out of your mouth.
Clearly an overlook on his part.
Shame on me; if I only knew, I could have loan him mine. But I think Ian is much taller than I, and its too late now.
@Max Pain you mean beget with garlic spread?
Harold Ellis believe that's a Denison smock. rare, and therefore cooler.
The beret, stripes, & cigarette dangle is trope'ing hard with this one
Nice video. Can you possibly do a video where you talk about any actual missions where the British used a suppressed Sten Gun?
Thank you and Happy New Year!
I'm surprised the mag worked . Remember the Sten gun kit's sold with all the mag's that seldom worked . Nice video , I've never seen a suppressed one fired before . Thank's !
How does it compare to the suppressed Sterling SMG?, I got the opportunity to fire one (Sterling with sub-sonic ammo) in the 1980s and was very impressed by just how quiet it was.
Thank you for not holding the magazine
... I wonder if it's against regulation to just weld a faux handle over the magazine well, so the magazine would not be directly gripped? Anyone has ideas? >):^?
@@ToryuMau use a drum mag
@6:09 Good to mention note of malfunctions occurring as a result of holding the magazine, in alot of those FPS Medal Of Honor and earlier WWII COD games it looked like the player model would hold it by the magazine overhanded instead of underhanded.
Interesting, great video as always!
I remember the Silent Stirling Sub Machine Gun, follow on from the Sten Gun, but this is news to me. The Stirling was amazing as it had a very short range, actual v theoretical. The Silent Sterling never took off although I did try it while at Warminster, Royal Small Arms School, I believe 1976. BUT it was amazingly "silent" but Close Range Only if you wanted to hit a target.
Yes I've shot a silenced Stirling. It really was impressively quiet. I remember pretty much only hearing the action.
I have a vague recollection of it being demonstrated on the telly, was it on The Burke Special?
Very quiet
Looks like a pipe rifle from FO 4,very simple design.I'v always liked these guns.
Or the Bastard gun from the Metro franchise.
i think you mean the pipe rifle looks like a sten.... given the timeframes involved, and the fact 1 is real and 1 is fiction.
Pipe weapons in FO4 and FO76 look only vaguely like real pipe weapons and nothing at all like a sten or the grease gun. The pipe weapons in those games was a few bolts, random water pipes, a spring or three, and some blocks of wood all put together by a 10 year old to look like a gun if they were real world. Only good thing about them was .38 ammo was easy to find, but then again you needed allot of it to kill a molerat much less a deathclaw. But again raiders shooting pipe weapons were plenty abundant and too stupid to survive making for plenty ammo.
Reminded me of the baby faces blaster from tf2 but I see the pipe gun in it
Love the Sten Mk II. I like the loop style stock to the T style which is the gun used in this video.
That's cool and sweet shooting, my buddy had one suppressed a few years ago. Non original thou, had to swap barrels for a integral version built specifically for it, full auto rated.
The plumbers delight
Nope. It and its successor (Sterling SMG) were known as the Plumber's Nightmare, at least in Canada.
Plumbers abortion.
Excuse me Ian, may I ask where the palm up magwell hold came from? From the books and other media I've consumed over the years, I was under the impression that the proper way to hold the sten is by gripping the barrel shroud and using your wrist to "support" the magwell. Or is it because this is a suppressed version and it gets hot fast?
Contempary film of factory testing shows the gun being held with the lefth hand around the barrel sleeve.
but, as my dad said, make sure you don't put your pinkie in the ejection port
Sound signature is quite manageable... nice
always interesting to see what some of these real world guns from video games actually handled like in the real world - thanks!
This weapon was created from scrap metal donated from civilians during the darkest days of ww2,it was never intended to be some kind of great firearm, just cheap and mass produced, it tells a story of its time.
Same reason nazi Germany copied it cheap and easy to produce. I think when the Brits produced it for about $5.00 USD
You're probably the first person ever to use the sights on a Sten.
Nice piece of history...and still works
Great view of the open-bolt function at 5:35.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
I bet this one doesn't overheat after 4 shots :P
@@jaklawrence4301 6 shots you mean :P
I've always wondered why reinforced magazine wells with purpose made grips weren't a more common thing in gun design, given early field use showing how often end users want to try and hang on to them. (And how many issues doing so can cause.)
the only one i can think of off the top of my head is the mat-49
Thanks for another interesting video.
The grip I was taught to use with the Stirling was to hold the barrel shroud as if I was holding a carbine, then rest the magazine and well, across my upturned wrist, that way no feed problems occurred,
That steel rod&sheet grip probably feels damn uncomfortable.
Surprisingly not, it's a little clumsy if you have larger hands (and longer arms), as the length of the stock is around 12 inches. But it's really not that bad... Some soldiers would adapt their stocks with cloth wraps and leather pads for extended use.
It's not bad actually they dknt have any kick the dude just hasnt gotten his big boy muscles in yet
Not particularly uncomfortable, more odd if you are used to traditional rifle or pistol grips. it's main function is being the immovable part between the thumb and forefinger with the trigger being the movable part. It could be a 1 inch bolt for the thumb only or a hole in the body of the rifle for the thumb to stick inside and serve the same purpose. Recoil is dealt with the shoulder for impact control and off hand for precision control, trigger hand is for precise squeezing and you don't need a grip for that, it helps having one but not required. Helps because you can feel the rifle in the hand and know what angle it is at so you don't pop a round or 10 off into the sky.
I've often wondered with the various guns that malfunction if you hold the magazine (side feed mags especially), why didn't they just make the mag well longer so it could act as a proper handgrip? I'm sure I've seen at least one vertical mag SMG (Peruvian?) that had this feature: it seems kinda obvious unless I'm missing something...
If I had to make a guess I would say storage and material concerns. Adding more metal makes a gun marginally more expensive, and when in mass production, even a small amount of additional material can add up. Ditto for storage and space.
yep from what I have seen on the subject you are dead on the money mate :)
I did mention that as well.
I can see the 'saving material' argument applying to the initial design, but once it's established that there's a serious problem with the short magazine well, surely the trade-off would be that a couple of inches of extra metal is worth it to make the gun more efficient and reliable? There are plenty of examples of much more money being spent to solve less significant problems.
As to storage, didn't most Stens have a rotatable magazine well in order to close the ejection port? That would swing the mag well to the vertical position making it an easier shape to store. The Peruvian gun with a long vertical mag well is the MGP-79 & MGP-87 and it doesn't look particularly awkward: modernfirearms.net/en/submachine-guns/peru-submachine-guns/mgp-79-mgp-87-eng/
Cost, both in manufacturing time and material, is the number 1 concern in wartime. We haven't seen any real wartime designs since 1945, so more modern guns are going to have these unnecessary, but certainly quality of life increasing, features. It's easy to just tell your new recruits to not hold a gun by the magazine when they're issued the weapon.
Besides, there's a reason no one designs guns with side mounted magazines anymore, which Ian says in the video was where the feeding malfunction from holding the mag was most problematic.
I was so excited for you, Ian; I thought you'd somehow managed to find an original, suppressed Sten... Should've known it was too much to hope for.
Someday they'll find a hidden cache of mint-condition, suppressed Stens, and you'll get the range day of your dreams, but unfortunately it was not this day.
Thank you Ian for filming the talking part with a wind break them trees say its windy ish
Seems like they could have extended the mag well another couple of cm so you don't have to crab hand to hold it without inducing malfunctions.
James Healy It wasn't designed to be held by the trigger mechanism housing.
Ok....?
JonMacFhearghuis it doesn't look like it was designed to be held with human hands at all lol
Right. The Sten has a pistol grip that does not conform to human hands, and it has no location for your second hand. It is an ergonomic mess, suppressed or not. But hey, it was cheap at least.
Jesse Sisolack ergonomics were a luxury Britain couldn’t afford until the mk5.
Ian, why is this unlisted? is It gonna go public soon or something?
also, I might pick one of these up for myself. Just have to get through the nfa crap...
It\s unlisted so that his patreon supporters can view it before he actually he releases it to the public.
Seeing this comment just today, I can assume patreon supporters get the benefit of early access.
actually, I found it through the james d Julia auction site, he lists the vids on the weapons featured.
One problem in shooting subsonic rounds from a STEN Mk 2 is the lack of recoil. The blow back from a supersonic round allows the bolt to travel back far enough to engage the sear. I've had subsonic rounds push the bolt back far enough to keep feeding from the magazine but not far enough to hold the bolt open. All this while the selector was welded in the semi-auto position. I emptied the magazine in about two seconds while in semi-auto and letting go of the trigger. The STEN was a crude design with many flaws but it was cheap and readily mass produced and good enough for combat.
I love the sound of that 9mm brass hitting the wood panels....
I bet you're out there shooting those for DICE and the new WWII Battlefield game ;)
You should get someone to redraw your logo in a vector format. Is it just me or has it gotten even blockier?
Nukleon the lines don't seem to match either
Hope you get your hands on an integrally suppressed Sterling SMG one of these days.
As always great info and video. Just noticed you holding it lefty, then realized I never noticed before. I’m a lefty too, the firearm world is stacked against us. But at least we’re in our right mind. 👍🏼 Thanks for posting.
We need a modernised STEN gun with picatinny rails and plastic furniture.
No, we don't. The thing is fugly enough as it was duwing WWII, no need for further mutiliations such as those you proposed.
and exactly what would be the point, their is newer SMG that would be simpler to modernise and get a better weapon for less money.
If only Carnik Con still existed, in one of their vids they taped a pistol grip and an eotech to a Mk3 Sten, it was glorious #shittybutlethal
I've only ever seen the RIS used to attach normal things like a sight and a grip. Does the mall ninja culture go by the "a naked rail must be covered with an accessory" philosophy?
Not really, the Sten was designed with 1940's British engineering in mind. If you want a cheap modern SMG there are much better ways of going about it.
That palm up grip looks pretty goofy
You fire most long weapons with a palm up...
@@keithmitchell6548 yeah but not while holding a grip protruding off the side horizontally
@@keithmitchell6548 With most long guns the angle of the fore grip makes palm up ergonomically comfortable, a Sten is not unless you grip the barrel. You are angling your wrist to not fit your arms angle with a Sten and it can get very uncomfortable very quickly. With a normal rifle and you hold out your left arm palm up you are doing the Shakespeare play version of talking to a skull ergonomics... as in naturally reaching out with the arm and a slight twist in the wrist(5 degrees) so the hand can grip(you can see angles of fingers with most experienced shooters replacing wrist angling). Try reaching out the same way but hold something at a 95 degree angle from natural. If you make your forearm angle comfortable to the wrist for the grip then there's elbow and shoulder stress as you put your elbow on the wrong side of the body. It really is just a terrible design to have one hand hold it there at that angle palm up. If the off hand arm was fully extended and palm down it would be ergonomically comfortable, extend your arm that way then turn your hand palm up and feel the stress in the muscles and joints.
JETWTF I’ve fired it’s successor, the Sterling many times and found it very easy to shoot.
I was lucky to shoot a normal Sten Gun (un-suppressed) version at an outdoor UK shooting range. You feel ace holding it and walking around with it.
Finally, a truly suppressed weapon!
Using supersonic rounds somewhat defeats the purpose of showing a silenced gun.
not really, the point of a suppressor is to muffle the shots origin.
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 a large part of the sound is the sonic boom of the bullet leaving the muzzle, so...
For sentry removal, I would honestly rather have a De Lisle Carbine.
I'd rather take the OSS William Tell crossbow... XD
I'd prefer a Welrod.
Good for the first sentry, but cycling the action, would wake all his friends. The clack of the SMLE action was horribly loud, and distinct.
I would rather have a Gurkha with a kukri...
just so you know that the audio recorder automatic turn recording volume down. So what we hear has no resemblance with the current sound.
Love the sales pitch at the end; like that's economical.
Medal Of Honor Rising Sun op SMG
... Hehe, remember that being a lawnmower... for people. >)X^D
Yep, coolest gun for shooting germanic zombies, too bad it overheats a lot
I interviewed John Plaster and be said the suppressed Stens and suppressed Grease guns worked well for their limited role in SOG ops during Vietnam.
Ian, love your videos, I would love to see a Sterling SMG, if it is on one of your other channels, please, display the link in the reply.
The British army taught me using the Sterling to never ever hold the magazine!!! It is a very similar weapon & it will cause a misfeed.As a blowback open bolt weapon the only thing that can go wrong is the feed.
I must say, from Spain .. i ve been watching your videos for such a long time now and i really appreciate your technical engineering angle on weapons as a "machine". Well done sir !!
at first i thought thats one hell of a way to hold a gun (reverse grip?) but then i realized that grip gives kinda neutral wrist so i bet it must be super comfortable to shoot that way, i love it now.
I was involved in bringing in a number of deactivated Stens into Canada from Finland around 2001. Many were made in the Long Branch arsenal here in Toronto . One peculiar thing noted was that a handful of these Stens had Brass bolts . I was told these were to quiet down the mechanical action. Do you think these were designed for the sound suppressed versions? I never got a definitive answer on this.
Glad to see you enjoy the FELIN french jacket 🤗
That's cool, to think in ww2 they had spec ops geezers sneaking round with this kind of kit. Love your videos Ian, interesting and entertaining, thank you 🤩
That is why you always hold it by the barrel shroud or suppressor with a canvas wrap that was issued with the weapon
The original "Silencer" developed for Para & R.M.C OSS was Indian Rubber with a bore of 9mm, this was swagged over the barrel and not intended as a fixture but temporary hence after less than 20 rds the unit was effectually "shot out the suppressor was then removed and often used as a cosh to stun sentries, my late father-in -law was Special forces operating behind enemy lines so I bow to his first hand knowledge.
It's interesting to note that they said the Stens had "advanced primer ignition" since the breech face had a protrusion that acted as a striker or firing pin. As to whether or not the primer ignited or even had time to start burning the powder or not before forward travel of the heavy bolt was completed I'm not so sure but at least it was the principal they used.
I liked to see the spring in action getting compressed.
Is sub sonic ammo impossible to find before you test suppressed weapons or what?
I can't remember seeing you use it in any of the weapons you showcase. Surely, it would seem paramount to locate some before filming.
Forgotten Weapons - The more friendly British NCO's would always kindly instruct you on how to hold a STEN or SMG - Failing to follow their instruction opened up a plethora of memorable reminders that the majority of other NCO's relied on !!!!