CRV SPARE TIRE SOLUTION - 2023 2024 2025 HONDA CR-V HYBRID! - MUST WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY!
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I don't know about everyone else but when I go on a long trip (ie., summer vacation) I need the cargo space. The spare tire greatly reduces the precious cargo space. Really liked the 2024 Hybrid CRV but can't get past this issue. Wonder how many sales are lost due to this shortcoming.
Same here. An option would be to get a roof-rack mounted storage box, either for the extra luggage or the tire.
But then we're talking about $500 for the spare and $500+ for the box. Plus, I prefer to not load things on the roof, it reduces MPG and therefore partially defeats the extra fuel efficiency you're paying for when you get a hybrid.
It's a tough call.
I can tell you about one lost sale...mine.
Last year I canceled my crv hybrid sport touring deal because of no spare and no fog lights especially at this price. I live in a rural area without street lights. It would be a nightmare for me if the tire gets torn at night in the middle of nowhere. So I bought the toyota rav4 hybrid instead.
@@cloudysky9395 does the rav4 hybrid have a spare tire?
@rc2257 yes ,it comes with a spare tire.
I would strap that down securely somehow. If you had a collision or a roll over, you don't want that launching at you and smashing your head like a squashed bug.
That's a nice kit from Modern Spare. Easy to store and move around. I was planning to buy a CR-V spare tire assembly and jack kit from a wrecking yard to take with me on long trips.
Thank you for producing this video.
Living in Canada, my 2024 Hybrid Touring model comes with the same 235/55 R19 wheels with Continental Cross Contact tires as your vehicle. I have investigated Modern Spare, asked them a lot of questions, to which they have promptly replied. The correct replacement/spare for my vehicle has the same 29” diameter rolling size that the 19” Honda wheels have. So, I do not have to worry about stressing the drive train, like I might if I was to put on a smaller diameter temporary spare.
Why is this important? Because this generation of CRV has a different AWD system than 5th generation models had, in that it is always engaged, and always delivering some torque to the rear wheels. Having a difference in rolling diameter could possible cause the computer to start throwing codes, over time as well as likely causing overheating issues. This AWD system also is fully engaged on reverse as well. (something Hondas Canada told me)
I will likely order up the Modern Spare kit, (tire, rim, tire bag, jack and wrench) and have it shipped to me here in Canada (it does not seem to be available anywhere in Canada). The catch is, factoring in the exchange rate between the US dollar and the Canadian dollar means that by the time I have it delivered, the cost is somewhere near $735.00 Canadian. Seems rather high, until I got a price on the Honda 19” black alloy rim with a Continental 235/55R19 Cross Contact mounted, then it seemed a fair buy. The plus of the MS kit is the space saving size - only 6 inches thick.
Where I live in Saskatchewan it is most common to drive for at least two hours at highways speeds to travel from one city to another, hence the reason for the MS Kit.
got the same spare tire!!! i carry it on my thule box on long trips!! good buy
i bought the spare tire and actually installed it to be sure it worked and it works just fine and a I am happy and feel more secure with it on board all the time
Hi, were you able to fit a full size spare under the trunk?
I always wondered about this; felt uneasy about going on a roadtrip without a spare tire. Awesome video. I am glad there is a solution!
Glad it was helpful!
Just make sure you strap it down securely or else it will cause serious damage in an accident or hard braking
@@EhsOfBassyes very dangerous ina accident
this is exactly what I was looking for. I was going to take one winter/all season tire on long trips but that would have taken up lots of space in the trunk.
This one’s nice and sleek! Leaves enough room for everything else. ❤
We bought one and love it!!
Just bought this vehicle. We do long distance trips and will buy his.
Thank you very much for dedicating your time to helping others, this video helped me a lot. Thank you very much.
Thank you for the nice comment! Appreciate it
Thanks for the review! What is the total weight of that complete spare in the bag?
Will Modern Spare lug nut remover remove flat tire lug nuts? Thanks for your video.
I love my hybrid Hondas. I recently traded in my 3 rd accord for a CRV. My accords I had 4 flat tires and had to have my car towed to a dealer to have a new tire put on to replace the flat tires. It takes hours if not 24 hours to get a new tire. With this purchase I insisted on a spare. They gave me a full size tire. It takes up half my smaller than accord trunk space. It is heavy and don’t have enough room for it with all our travel baggage. This is a great idea. I just feel like a spare is not a good way to cut costs. The pump they give you instead of the spare did not work. My first flat I put the pump on and it didn’t reinflate the tire and caught on fire. My question is can you store stuff with the battery in the trunk on that extra wasted space where the battery is? I am afraid if I put liquids in there it could damage the battery or overheat it with cloth things in There.
It it not dangerous if the tyre isn’t screwed down, like it usually is in the boot (trunk)??
Where on the frame do you put the jack?
Been waiting on this video. You came thru as promised
It took a minute, just had to make sure the option was available in stock. 🫶
Ill have to do a 16,000 mile update next.
Can you use CRV lug nuts or must you use the Modern Spare lug nuts? Thanks
Thanks for the video. Im sure Modern Tire loves the free advertising!
BTW- How did you get your window trim from chrome to black? Just bought a 2024 SL and didnt think that was a trim option. Looking to do that on my new ride
Advertising is not free. They had to send him a $500 spare tire. He's a CR-V influencer now...
Check my other video. But i deleted myself with 3M vinyl
Interesting & informative. I think that Modern Spare will have a bright future, since so many cars are no longer coming with spare tires! The only thing I would have liked in your review was the PRICE of the spare kit you purchased. Thanks.
Thank you. Its a range~ 299-499 ish, i left it out since prices tend to change often these days.
It takes 1 minute to click the link to go to the site and see the price.
but have they been tested for safety?
Even my $50,000 2015 Acura MDX did not come with a spare! First thing i bought was a spare kit from Acura, which, I believe, is no longer available. The car did come with a can of “sealant “ and an air pump but that is unusable for anything but a minor tire malfunction. JMHO.
plug kit. normally get nail every 25k. only time i was really nervous was in the yukon territory in canada. there was no cell signal. no way to call road side assistant. how much does the spare weight and how much? part 2 changing stock to spare. i don't even know how to use the stock air pump that came with the vehicle. $379.95 - $489.95
bought the 2024 crv lx best decision.
Thank you for all the information on the Modern Spare.tire. We are planning a road trip and are trying to pick up a spare for our 2024 Honda CRV Sport Touring Hybrid, it has 19" wheels. Will the Modern Spare work with our car? (Modern Spare doesn't have a 19" for sale)
Yes, they do have a spare kit that works with the Sport Touring model. The "wheel" is 19 inches, but the tire is the same size as the other hybrid models. Their website addresses this question very well. I am buying a Sport Touring myself, so I checked into it already!
I think for the price the base hybrid sport crv (which is under 40k) is the best value there is. I got mine back in july and love it. it's a modern beautiful car with honda reliability. way better than a rav4 which is being upcharged and has added fees at every dealership (and has a dated interior).
Very dated interior
I'm buying this car as well I'm just waiting to see if Toyota introduces a new Rav 4 at this year's auto show for my final decision
@@NoneNone_ even with the outdated interior the rav4 is nice, it's just that the toyota dealers everywhere have huge markups on it that it doesn't make it worth it.
@@NoneNone_ i saw the 2024 one. Its just a 2023 with a bigger screen up front.
Not to mention rav4 front to back space passenger wise feels so small compared to crv.
Thank you 😁👏
The FLAW in buying a hybrid is the eventual SHOCK you will receive when you see the price will have to pay to replace that battery 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Dang DrHonda, you have some nice looking toes! 🤩🦶🏼🦶🏼
BTW..the CRV Sport Touring is on my radar and now I have an awesome solution for the spare, which I feel is very important to have. Thanks!
btw do you still plan on installing fog lights? It's pretty scary to drive in the rain, I can barely see anything with the weak headlights
I do. I just got the wires in the mail. Just need to sort out how to connect them and get a switch inside the console
I suggest you to make sure that if you install fog lights it will not interfere with your original electrical warranty.
It frustrates me that the cr-v doesn't include fog lights. There's actually a space for them. I was hoping Honda would add them to the 2024 or 2025 models, as most manufacturers add minor upgrades in between major model revisions. The 2025 CR-V is now the 3rd year of this incarnation and it's pretty much identical to the 2023 models.
Does the spare fit in the lower compartment area or does it take up space in the cargo area behind the back seats?
Does not fit below
This is for 18 inch wheels. Honda CRV hybrid sport touring has 19 inch wheels. Does it OK/fit the spot touring wheels.
Yes you can choose the right tire 🛞 size
Did you ever consider switching your tires out and getting run flats? I go back & forth to Vegas monthly and that lack of a spare makes me hesitant to get this car.
Nah. The fuel milage would tank. I just got the spare and strapped down in the trunk.
Would it fit, standing up in the second row with the seats up?
Very dangerous in a accident thou
No spare tire is a deal breaker. The modern spare takes up space.
Thank you. Unfortunately the HONDA sales people at Herb Chamber never told me about this. I found out when I blew out a tire on the highway. The Honda 'repair' kit doesn't work for anything other than a slow leak. I would not have purchased the 2022 CRV Hybrid if I was told it does not come with a spare.
Sorry to hear that. Yea they forsure leave out the negative details
How did you get the back open? So you can see that compartment.
I dont recommend it. I broke a tab trying to close it. Its not supposed to be opened
Show how ridiculous the car industry has become , when you have to buy a spare tyre
😂😂 yup
do your research, there’s no space for the Spare Tire because of the hybrid engine
Car makers suck in 2024 (every last one of them)
It's my understanding that space is designed to keep the battery ventilated and cool, so it's not actually wasted space.
Idk. You can clearly see the tire well from non hybrid versions.
@@UCversace it is. But it's function is different in the hybrid for the battery.
In fact, no. The main reason is that elsewhere, the car is available as a plug-in hybrid. That battery fills that entire area.
How about tire goo? I carry a bottle in my CRV hybrid. Didn’t know about this option. Thank you
I mean the car comes with an inflator kit. But what happens when your side wall blows out. Or you accidentally run over something large and the tire tears.
My 2024 CR-V Hybrid Sport came with a tire repair system. I understand that there could be severe tire damage that this would not work for but it should work for many situations for the avg driver. Did yours not come with one?
*Edit - I drive my CRV for Uber and Lyft in Seattle. I recently had it in the shop for a repair and was renting a Polestar 2 that had a severe flat. This also did not come with a spare and only had a flat repair kit which completely failed so I then had to hire a tow truck to take the Polestar 2 back to Hertz and I also lost an entire day of work and pay. I want to get the spare kit mentioned on this video but I have to keep my back area clear for passenger’s luggage. Not sure what I’m going to do at this point.
-Having had multiple tires damaged beyond repair over decades in personal and commercial vehicles- a spare which can be installed quickly is a must to me. Perhaps the "average" driver will never need the spare. Prudence, however recognizes the real potential for terminal tire damage beyond the scope of a repair kit. I won't have safety dependent on a car manufacturer deciding an average user won't need a spare. I like the CRV but lack of a spare or non-intrusive mounting point for a customer-acquired spare means no CRV purchase. There's room under the back mat for a well-engineered spare or mount- but Honda's (and others') decision to omit this is a deal-killer.
@@brianormond111 I just had a flat with a rental Polestar 2 and the repair kit completely failed to work and I still ended up waiting for a tow because it didn’t have a spare either. After this experience, I’ll have to get a spare for my CRV too.
May I know how did you open the trunk to check the battery?
Not recommended. I broke a latch haha
Great presentation
Thank you!
Where can i buy all of them for crv 2024?
Is it hard to change tires? If I have one but I am old and not able to change to the spare in the event I have. Flat, is it advisable still to get one?
Only if you can find someone else to change it.. otherwise, why bother buying it? 😊
Does anyone knows the air pressure this spare tire should have? 😮
Every solution is only good as long as you "take your tire out" when your parked over night. Any tire visible will be ripped off in a hot minute along with broken windows to match.
I went to look at crv hybrids yesterday only to find out they don’t come with spare tires. Without a place to actually tuck away the spare, I don’t think the crv is for me. I believe the rav4 hybrids have spare tires.
Do you have any video or link you can share on how to remove the cargo panel correctly on the hybrid? Wife lifted the sill trim and the plastic tabs cracked on the edge in the process. It still sits snug under the rubber seal but I was looking to replace it. I'm still not sure how to slide the panel out without removing the plastic.
I also broke a tab taking it off. But I figured out how to replace it. It’s very delicate movements.
I don’t have a video as technically it’s not supposed to be open, so I don’t wanna promote it
It's not supposed to be opened and has nothing to do with the spare because it wouldn't fit anyway
I’m curious about the space where the spare is traditionally. Is it safe to stow your tire jack and emergency kit in there with the battery?
Unless you can securely mount it. Probably not. The plug in version battery takes up most of the space. So i dont think the space is used for cooling or anything
All cars require rear crush space for federal safety regulations. If the OEM leaves it empty, do not add additional objects OR they will likely make contact with the battery in a rear crash.
Would the modern spare tire fit in the extra space in the battery compartment?
No. Unfortunately no tire would fit there. Maybe a toolbox at most
You might clarify that the Sport Touring is 19" OEM tire but this spare is 18". Dealership won't endorse this practice but it will work for short distances. Also you should make it clear this is a sponsored video. But you're correct, Modern Spare is filling a need for hybrid owners.
As long as the overall diameter of the spare rim and tire is close to the overall diameter of the factory rim and tire, there’ll be no issues. If the tire on the 18” spare rim had the same sidewall height as the tire on the factory 19” rim, then there would be a big problem. But as you can see, the sidewall height on the spare tire is noticeably taller than the factory tire’s sidewall. Since they decreased the diameter of the spare rim, they increased the sidewall height of the spare tire to come close or match the overall diameter of the factory rim and tire.
@@Wiggy74 that's correct! 18" and 19" rim diameter have the same bolt config there is not problem at all.
Same tire diameter, just the rim is 19 or 18
Will the spare tire fit in the empty space under the rear mat?
No
Modern Spare is wise 👍
Would be nice to see you do the tire swap and procedure.
Its in the next video! On my channel
@@UCversaceawesome!
@@UCversace
Link?
@@billyrock8305 in bio!
@@UCversace
Finally found Hyperdip! 👍
Nothing on actually removing the standard tire and installing modern spare 😢
Toyota includes a spare tire in their hybrid SUVs. That alone makes me choice them over Honda.
So I take that modern spare will not fit in the battery storage area ?
Nope. I tried. Haha
@@UCversacemaybe there a smaller option or cheaper? I just got a 2025 hybrid sport and I love it but tbh I almost gave up for this reason. Btw did your came with lock wheel nuts? Thanks for the advices in this video!
Unrelated, but how much did the dealer charge you to install the sport tailgate?
A lot. Couple hundo
Where do you bought the bug deflector?
I bought it from my dealership
The fact that they don't go back to placing a spare on the rear tail gate like they used to is proof that it is a cost cutting measure and not lack of space.
Yea i wish. They put it on the back. Such a cool look too
You don't mention the CR V tire inflation repair kit behind the driver side rear wheel cover...how does it work, is it effective...
That is an inflation kit. If the tire sidewall rips. It wont do a thing. Strictly speaking replacement here. Ive mentioned it in past videos. But i will make another video. Thank you
@@UCversace
What kind of drivers use the tire until sidewall ripped apart ?
Use good quality tires....
@@vc4825 i meant if the sidewall blows out. C
@@vc4825 can happen if you hit something
Can mount this kit standing up (tie-downs/wraps to the side or one back of back seat)? It will occupy much less space. If yes, can you show us a photo how to do it? Thank you.
Just today I got a flat on the interstate in our 24 sport touring. lucky we were 1 exit from the dealer and made it before the tire went completely flat. Wll cost $345 to replace the tire. and I have to leave my car there for 4 days till they can get the tire. I have bought 6 cars there so they gave me a 24 passport black edition to use for the duration. Now I am torn between buying this spare or just trading in the crv (2400 mi.)for a ridgeline black and giving my wife my 24 pilot elite. This car we did not get the tire and wheel warranty pkg,because they raised the price and lowered the coverage. Figures,but it was a gamble since we have not got a flat since 1984. But now we live in the desert 45 minutes from anything so do I really want to get caught out again?
Get a spareeeee
salesperson mentioned "no spare". My bad for not jumping on that for an explanation!!! It would have killed the deal if I had known. I expect this will go the same place as the push button transmissions of the 50's!! Will trade as soon as I am able!!!
Its like apple getting rid of the headphone jack
First thing to buy too … insurance for long road trip
I wonder if we can put that on top of the car using the rack. What do y’all think?
Probably. But kill aerodynamics haha
I was thinking you’ll be seeing a lot CRV’s with spares on their luggage racks of people taking tours of the country. Poor engineering.
I've spent the last 40 years and haven't had a flat or any problems that would force me to use a spare tire! Not that it can't happen but with the quality of tires that are produced it's not a common factor anymore or at least not as much.
did you notice a difference in mpg driving with the spare?
Ironically its gone up over time. But no. Never went down. Its not that heavy. And i generally drive solo.
My car was 33MPG first couple thousand miles. Leveling out at 36 by 20k miles. Last 2000 miles I’ve done 41 MPG.
Same roads and drives. Changing air filter was a big boost.
The solution to occupy half of the trunk with spare tire bag pretty ugly I would say...
What about getting CONTINENTAL CROSSCONTACT LX SPORT SSR, which are the run flat tires? Any thoughts or experiences that someone wants to share?
Run flats are more expensive and harsher ride, but certainly an option if you don't want to carry a spare
i wanted to buy a rav4 hybrid , just for this reason alone. But it was cramped and interiors looked really cheap. Once i test drove the CRV, there was no going back to the Rav4.
so is the non hybrid better?
If youre doing mostly highway. Then yea
Does it fit on to 2025 hybrid with 19” wheel size?
Yess
I got flat tire after less then 4 months on the 19 inch ;/ my old car. 14 Years never had flat tire must be bad luck or also the crv hybrid. plthe repair tool did not worked. So got to buy new one plus new tire purchase :/
Never know when youll need the spare!
I loved driving it and saw it had no tire or storage so i bought the pilot
I get 41MPG with the CRV. Or id have gotten the pilot too. Which is like half. Ill carry a spare since i drive far.
My prev was crv i just wanted more room for bikes and stuff
@@uzi100099 nice. Hows the pilot
Not knocking the video or the idea as both are great. I have two issues in carrying a spare tile like that. One is safety. If you have to stop short at highway speeds that thing is going to go flying forward resulting in a very dangerous if not deadly situation. The other concern I have is I do long distance trips (hence the need for a spare) but when I do so I have a lot of luggage and pets I need to transport. So I have no room really for a spare tire carried in the back. It bums me as I was going to consider a CRV (possibly trade in a Tucson) but I don't think this will work for me. A Rav4 is the only other option but the reports of bad road noise really concern me.
Yea. Thanks for the headsup. The rear seats should keep it back there. But i will invest in tie down straps to keep it locked in
I hope you never get in a heavy braking situation as the spare could fly and potentially kill a passenger.
Its strapped down securely with 1000lb ties
Did the straps come with the tire kit or, were they purchased separately? @@UCversace
@@Longvillle separate. Can get husky tie down straps for $10. Pack of 4. At home depot. Only need 2.
Does this 18 inch spare fit as a temporary spare for 19 inch sport touring 2023 Crv?
Yes. The outer diameter is the same.
Thanks
I heard somewhere that if you have one tire that you have to replace, you have to replace all four on one of these type of cars. Any truth to that?
No. Not at all haha. Thats ridiculous
I think it depends how worn down the other tires are, if they are super worn it can cause issues to have one that is much less worn so in some cases you may have to replace 2 or even all 4 depending on the level of wear
True in case of AWDs.. Depends on the wear and tear of the tires. If they have even wear, it should be okay. But if you have used the three tires for 35-40 K miles and and you have a tire blow out, better to get all 4. For more info, see scotty kilmer channel
How much it cost for spare tyre
$300-500
How much is the tire?
Depends which option. 299-499 ishh
RAV4 has a spare tire even on the hybrid
How's that $6500 high voltage cable doing?? Don't know? Better look it up.
I love my 2023 CRV Hybrid, but sometimes I wonder if I should’ve gone with a Tesla model Y 🤔
Im not a fan of charge anxiety. And egg shaped cars 😅
Range anxiety is real on any extended drive.
they also don't come with a spare either.
How is the CRV not shaped like and egg?
It won’t fit underneath?
No. Battery is there. Not enough space
Not getting a hybrid after this video. There is no spare tire for 40k car. Also, you need to maintain like a regular car. Idk if the hybrid battery needs to be changed. That cost you arm and leg
That's a deal breaker.
How much for that brand of spare tire,you never mentioned $$$$$😮😮😮😮
check the link! I didn't mention the price in case it changes.
. Pretty pricey, if you get the whole kit $500 plus with shipping .
@@craighlady4778 price of piece of mind. Also
A single tow can be easily over that.
Ki will never buy a vehicle without a spare tire. I will never buy a vehicle with run flat tires and no spare. Like the Lexus NX 350. No thank you.
On a long road trip with luggage and people, who the hell has the room to put the spare in the cargo area?
lots of people. I just drove 10 hours, and saw 3 ppl on the side with flats/torn tires. I had piece of mind though the entire way :)
I have the 2024 CRV hybrid sport and my car came with a spare tire. 🤔
Really!!, I just buy mine and not spare tire, your spare are in storage area???
I got the 2024 crv hybrid sport and NO SPARE. I asked about Modern SPARE at the dealership and they didn't even know about it. So I know more about it than they do. Hmmm. Honda should have included a spare IMO.
There is no spare on the hybrids.
Where? Bc I have the same and I don’t have a spare
No reason except you now have substantially less storage space.
thats not secure in serious roll over accident that tire inside the cabin can be deadly
Good point. I will strap it down
@@UCversace, I would appreciate seeing a video of how you tie it down securely. This has been my concern with getting the Modern Spare.
@@ricki.9556 alrighty ill make a video!
Thank you, I'm going to follow you so I can see the video of the tie down once you've posted it.@@UCversace
Is it more deadly than luggage or other items carried back there? Doubt it makes a difference.
That thing is going to be a missle into your rear seat passengers if you get into an accident.
I have it cable strapped down
the problem with this tire would be that there is no way you can really not secure it in the trunk. in the event of a front crash , it will most likely crush the head of the rear passenger. Hence I would never buy this. If that means that i will be stranded on the road for a few hours so be it.
Theres cable tie down rings. Ratchet strapped it down good. Not going anywhere.
Great thing. Except I'll take my chances not to carry it. I bought an extendable rachet that can be used as breaker bar and install the wheels easily. Also bought an electric jack which will allow for super easy and fast car lift. 99.9% of the time you just need to plug your tire. Very unlikely you'll ever damage your sidewall. I also carry plenty plugs with me.
never say never haha. My friend's side wall blew out last month on the freeway. some scrap on the road
@@UCversace true, it happened to me one time, but it was entirely my fault. That's very unlucky what happened to your friend. But could happen for sure. I also only buy high end tires, only Michelin or Bridgestone, top tier. I even plugged tires in places so close to the side, and the fix wouldn't even be in contact with the road lol. Still never had a problem, always wearing my tires all the way down.
Where did you get your electric jack can you provide a link? Plz
@@neilgray6264 can't put link, it gets deleted. Bought it on amazon.
ABN 3 Ton Electric Hydraulic Jack - Automatic Emergency Lift for All Cars, Vans, Trucks, SUVs
- Have suffered two sidewall blowouts and one sidewall blister about to pop over 36 years of personal driving, three more including on-the-job vehicles, not to mention multiple slow leaks making tire change advisable. Catastrophic tire failure is a reality worth abating. My area has poor road maintenance and lots of jaggedy potholes so sidewall damage is an everyday reality, likely more than in areas with better road maintenance. I wouldn’t drive to or in a remote area without at least one spare.I like CRVs but lack of a spare seems shortsighted by Honda regardless of industry trend.
Wow. So on a long road trip when you need the cargo space the most for luggage and a cooler, you have to put that massive spare tire in there instead. Deal breaker.
Its interesting that some owners wouldn't even try or just don't have the skill set to change a tire out on the open road, during bad weather etc even if they had a spare tire that came with the car new. This is a good option. 85% of flats are from punctures to the tread. This would allow ANYONE to repair the tire such as to get going to a tire shop and have it repaired completely or replaced if necessary. Refer to czcams.com/video/0fU4LdjXXDk/video.htmlsi=SWLVi40I1BUR8_rF czcams.com/video/0fU4LdjXXDk/video.htmlsi=SWLVi40I1BUR8_rF