Can GRIP SIZE Change Your Swing? // GEARS 3D Motion & Foresight GC Quad Testing
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- We use all the research tools at our disposal to analyze exactly what grip size can change in the golf swing. The GEARS 3D motion tracking system gives us precise data on clubface angles, dynamic loft, closure rate and more - paired with GC Quad for ball flight tracking, we were able to produce a definitive explanation of how to use grip sizes to influence the swing.
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Golf Pride MCC +4 Midsize grips are the absolute GOAT. Only grip I'll ever play.
Reg grip my top hand fits well and bottom part of the grip is too small...mid size grip is too big for my top hand but the bottom hand fits better...+4 is the best and is made because of feedback from pros...It was very difficult to get a consistent grip position with the grip too small because you cant feel that you are strong or weak quite as well .
Love watching you guys, every time I see Matt swing though I just can't get over his slow anticipating swing. It's unlike anything I think but he just hits it so well every single time.
Crazy, last thing i did last night before i went to bed was send my father in law an email about how i changed my grips on my driver and 3 wood back to standard. I made this change straight after a trackman session at my local GC. Then to wake this morning to see u guys do a video on grip sizes. Your passion, understanding and experience in delivering quality information to all level of golfers cannot be understated. Love your work lads! Always look forward to new content with my morning coffee!
This was such an awesome video. I’m changing grips. Anything that minimizes hooks and left side misses would be a game changer for me. You guys are AWESOME. This is one of the best and most influential videos made by TXG.
Incredible content guys. Last year I tried jumbo with 2 layers tape on my driver, felt nice drove it real good. This year I regripped (midsize) all my clubs and started to mad hook my driver. My coach told me that my grip got strong after the jumbo grip. This video just validated what he said.
This may be one of the most interesting videos I ever watched from you all. I am tinkerer and tech guy and this was just awesome to see the relation with grip and swing analysis. Awesome stuff per usual from the TXG boys! If only all my physics classes in college could have been revolved around this my GPA would have sky rocketed!!!!!
I've experimented with multiple grip types and sizes and suspected as much but this test gives me much more confidence, as layers of grip tape 1/16 increments can seem like splitting hairs. TXG is the strokes gained system for equipment. Keep up the fascinating videos
I recently changed to a midsize grip and noticed this very thing in my delivery. I was a very low spin player, but noticed my spin increase from 5600 to 7500 with my eight iron with an increased grip size and ball change. I changed grip size to change my swing weight based upon your previous swing weight video, but had other positive effects. Been utilizing all your videos to fit myself to the equipment that I have and not having to buy a whole new set of clubs. Shot dispersion is much tighter. All the information you guys share is absolutely priceless. Keep it going!
Great video. I played for years with standard sized grips, then when I was properly fit I have a couple of extra wraps under my grips. This makes the club feel more comfortable in my hand and helps my delivery. I also grip the club properly.
A friend of mine whose bad shot was a hook went from standard to mid size grips and hey presto hook reduced. He can still bend it but it’s a conscious decision now not something that just happens.
switched to jumbomax ultralite's a few months ago and it has changed my life. Was never a horrible ball striker but my ball striking has improved dramatically and my bad left miss is all but gone. As hockey player of 20 years, my golf clubs now feel like I'm swing a hockey stick and I absolutely love it.
Your channel has brought more knowledge to the average golfer and we all thank you for that.
Love the videos around this length. Great insights that reinforce intuition. Thanks
Great info, was waiting for this video with analysis of driver and fairway woods! Be safe and keep up the good work!
Great video gents. As a 60 something the pain that comes with age is starting to set into the hands. Having small hands I usually use standard size grips, but have been trying a midsize in my driver and one hybrid. Results have been wonderful. Both clubs have become more accurate most likely due to less rotation and re-gripping during the swing. The connection feels much more consistent. Next up, make the dive and change out the whole set.
Super interesting as always, Matts swing tempo is something else. What a swing change since you first appeared on the channel. Practice clearly working well. Cheers guys.
Changing to midsize last year has been a game changer. From a bad low draw to a higher small draw and can work a fade. I’ve also been able to loosen the grip and relax
Great insights into the intricacies associated with launching a golf ball. I think we all look forward to more analysis with Gears. Cheers.
Great vlog guys - i have seen a big difference in control / consistency / spin for all of my irons, especially wedges, moving from Standard to Midsize.
When being fit buy very good fitters i am always told that I can choose between them both but on change over Midsize is where i am going all the time from now on in.
Nb Grip pressure if you are playing with the wrong size or ill fitting grip the pressure increases and your swing / plane / path can alter due to tension. We always tell / are told be relaxed / easy / no tension in any part of your game🙂🙂🙂
Ernie Els - The Big Easy!!!💪👍🙂
As someone who has been building and playing with these variables for well over a decade, I can't tell you how rewarding it is to see the theories I have been implementing based on physics are now being supported with established data! Woo Hoo! Thanks Boys!
Thanks TXG for keeping us entertained through these crazy time stay safe and keep up the great work 👍
The usage of gears is going to add test and another element to your content and will set you even further apart from the rest of the golf channels on youtube. I know that I look forward to every single one of your videos, more often than not I learn something new! Whether it's about club fitting and how all the different pieces can make a difference, or how certain things can influence the swing. Keep up the great work and looking forward to the knowledge coming from the gears system!
Love the Content. Was just about to search for the last grip size video based on yesterday’s Q&A and stumbled on this one
Constantly breaking new ground with every video, easily the best CZcams channel, so proud of everything txg represents!!
After that comment JP I'm sure that the TXG job offer will be coming your way👍😉
@@banditbaker1675 hope so 😂😂 the goal is to enjoy the job you do correct? 👌👌
@@JPMoon Sure is. I spent most of my career searching for the perfect role for my talents and finally found it when I retired lol
I absolutely love the work you guys do. Im a fairly high handicapper playing of around 18 ( and not getting the chance to play enough) but I really love this content and feel it’s really helping me understand my options a lot more clearly. It would be a total dream to get a fitting from you guys and hope one day you have a setup in either London, Zurich or Denver Co. so this can happen more easily. Keep up the great work. I wish you every success!
Pure gold and right on time. For fun i ordered raw components and built a custom set of clubs yesterday. I installed the Jumbo max XL grips on them to try them as I was struggling with face control. I kept telling my instructor I felt like I was "dumping" the swing. basically as Ian is describing it as moving the path more right to accommodate the excessive closing of the face. It's an odd sensation but I was absolutely reacting to the face of the club. I'm sure people think the grips are ridiculous but I'm 6'7" and my hands are about 10 inches long (XXXL) glove. Jumbo max probably feels to me like an standard jumbo feels like to someone with "regular" size hands. I liken it to the time I finally found 36" inseam pants. I was like ohhhhhhhhhhh so this is what it feels like when something fits correctly, how nice!
Nice one guys. When I changed my full set at the start of last year I decided to do two layers of tape under a standard grip. It’s just made the grips a touch thicker but not too much. It’s really took left out of my game unless I really roll my hands or unless I cast it so bad my path causes me to go straight left. A rarity if I’m honest 👍
I play jumbo grips in my irons and wedges and midsize in my woods because I could not square the face with the woods with the jumbo grip on it. Grip size definitely deserves more attention than it is given. Great video.
Very interesting guys. I switched to oversize grips last year simply because they felt good in my hands, but now my misses are generally to the right. After watching your video, I think I'll change back to regular size grips. Thanks. Very informative video.
Great video! I love the feel of a midsize grip but often use a standard grip and build it up quite a bit to save weight even though it wears the grip quicker.
Really appreciate guys like you doing videos like this, thank you very much 🙌🏼
Very informative video, GEARS is a nice addition, hope more nice videos using this,thanks guys for the great content
Great video boys👍
Was very interesting to see the shaft flex via gears especially on the later segment of the video.
Can't wait for more videos with the Gears system included
I wonder how many people actually realize how valuable this data is. Amazing work Boys!!!
Amazing?? How old are you?
You could see the difference in the all flights and where they landed relative to the target line. Great info and video!
What a great addition Gears will be to Ian’s arsenal. Looking forward to the upcoming content as always!
Thanks for the great vid as always!! On a totally separate note; I’m a lefty, like Matt, and I just watch, in aw, at his swing. That slow and long backswing with the power coming through. Would love for mine to look that fluid!!
This absolutely speaks to me. I have recently been playing a midsize golf pride cp2pro at 64g and have been pushing or fading the ball. I did try a standard size and notice something different, but couldn’t put my finger so I switched back. I think I do need a standard or undersize to help with rotation. Thanks for the in depth explanation!!!
Very cool video guys, that definitely validates the main things I have experienced and what the general wisdom has been. I have ALWAYS been more comfortable with a slightly smaller grip on my 3w as I use as primarily a right to left club (as a righty) off the tee. Instinctively I always felt like that made it easier to start the ball right and get it moving left, and that makes sense given not only the increased face rotation, but the subsequent swing path compensation that we make in response to it. Science!
I have also found a similar affect with counterweights as well. More/heavier weight under the hands slowed face rotation. That would be a great test for you guys too!
Great video and data presented. Switched to midsize grip as my miss was typically a pull with standard grip. Noticed a significant improvement with midsize grip with respect to ball direction. Now I know why.
Excellent. Fascinating. So much additional information to to add into the mix. The numbers don't seem big, but that's a pretty significant change between the biggest and smallest. I think you've found your content list for the next few years - redo all previous tests, using gears :)
great vid. Thanks .I put jumbo max xl on long irons and finding it much easier to hit a fade. There was too much draw bias and launch was too low. This has helped a little.
Have always used standard grip, smaller hands, bought a used Ping G410 with wraps under the grip and it feels so much better in my hand. For Christmas a "Re-Grip" might be the gift to myself. Unreal info. Great work as always guys, happy holidays to everyone.
Struggling with low hooks and an in-to-out path and had a feeling it was small/regular grip size. Just ordered MCC +4 Align midsize grips then came across this video. Confirmation. Thanks lads!
I had switched to jumbo grips before the first video you guys made on grip size. As someone who played base into college and not much golf I made a change because the grip felt better to me being closer to a baseball bat feel. And I noticed my draw I naturally always hit turned into a slight fade almost dead straight. Now I know why
Truly outstanding video. Perhaps your best work yet boys.
🤯 crazy and fascinating stuff boys.
This is why you are the best out there!
I’ve been thinking down this path, but this convinced me to experiment with progressive grip sizes...great work gents!
Very well done video Matt! Editing was fantastic!
Awesome video! Really enjoy the technical side of it.
Fantastic insights guys! Beautifully explained 👏🏻
Another test that would interesting to see with the display screen off (for Matty) so that swing compensations are not made.
In this same vein of fitting... it would be interesting to see ball flight of a club 1/2in short and 1/2in long all with same lie angle.
Awesome video, again! More Gears!!!
Golf club fitter here. This video is amazing. It's crazy how much you can influence someone's game just by golf ball change, lie/loft, & grip size.
Thanks!! This really helped me, my irons currently have a +4 grip and I tend to slice or push the ball, so I just ordered a set of standard grips, let´s see what happens. Loved all the data!
Just watching the Professor’s gears turning was worth the support to acquire the Gears system. It’s going to be a great journey for TXG. I can only imagine what’s going on in minds the fitters and builders at TXG from what could be explored in Gears and for that matter the combinations of technologies. 👍
Whisker, I wonder if wearing our TXG Bucket Hats will increase our shaft deflection?🙏😜
Bandit Baker Listen Bandit you gotta soldier up on this one ... it has to be tested ... you can do this it’s for science ... your going to have to sensor up ..... the variable of any outside influences of additional clothing will need to be taken out of the equation ... we need everything the Natural Bandit can be just you and the TXG Bucket Hat ... god speed Bandit! - Fade Out- Carrie crying - Cut- End Obscene.
@@whiskerrub3821 In the interest of science and for the future of mankind I accept the assignment, though it may be tough without my incontinence underwear
So you spend a couple of hours painstakingly fitting a set of irons. Then with 5 minutes left you get asked what grip you want. You pick one and it change everything about your delivery and impact. So fit the grip first?
The one time I’ve ever gotten an extremely in depth fitting like they offer one of the first questions the fitter asked me was what grip I play. Like I’m pretty sure it was the second or third question. He proceeded to use an air compressor to put “my grip” on every single thing I made a swing with. Ended up with the best set of irons I’ve ever owned to this day. I didn’t even know that changing grips with an air compressor was a thing until that day.
@@TheMuffs2004 where was this fitting at?
@@TheMuffs2004 would also like to know where you got fitted like this! I’m almost 4 years into the game and have started messing around with jumbo grips and don’t know if I should replace all my irons with them. I love the jumbo golf pride CP2 grip on my 3 wood, 5 wood, and hybrid clubs
I don't think you "fit" the grip. You decide on a grip based on needs or preference.
I just changed my grips to Midsized MCC +4 from CCp 2 grips that made a big difference now that I watched your video it confirms what I found
I will say, I have just been fitted with a new set of Callaway maverick. They have changed me into 1/4 inch over medium grip and 95g stiff flex and it's changed my game completely, an my swing is so much more comfortable with the mid sized grips. Makes a massive difference
Love this..... it’s all in the detail chaps eh. I’m wondering if my grips are a tad bulked 🧐 my previous irons had standard grips and it’s fair to say my flight was more neutral. Reviewing the grip size etc for the new irons when fitted.. that’s for sure. Stay safe chaps
Very cool video. Love the information!
Great stuff here as usual Gents! ❤️. I play midsize grips to neutralize my draw bias but bigger issue with them is how they effect swing weight so have to offset with head weight which then effects shaft bend profile... what a mess! 😄
Was a great video for me at the time so excited about this one (not watched it all the way through!)
Absolutely fascinating, gents. As a natural ‘blocker’ who has to really concentrate on shallowing my swing and turning the club face over, this is like gold dust to me. I’ve always suspected that skinnier grips helped me and fat grips hindered, but this validates my suspicion. There’s a PHD in the bag if you write up and publish this!
Nobody else does this stuff like you guys. Kudos guys.
I went to oversize grips and completely changed my dispersion/accuracy. Straight ball flights and far less handsy now
Wow! great technical content + the clear enthusiasm Ian & Matt are showing = the TXG gears journey is going to be epic!
Gears is so awesome! I bought one on Ebay for $1300 US. They thought it was broken but, it just needed a new cable.
Played reg grips for years. Found out going to jumbos’ my game has improved dramatically. I have big hands so it feels so much better probably normal now. Thank you for the review. (I also suffer from right shoulder problems so I feel more control better results better grip).
Love these types of videos ( love all your videos)
As a club junkie, I've gone through just about every grip you can buy. From Tour Velvets, to Iomics. I found the MCC Plus4 and it immediately felt right , and my scores improved. The swing weight feels correct for me too. I went down that grip rabbit hole and almost ruined my fitting, about 500.00 worth of grips later!
Love your content guys, you're fast becoming the gold standard in testing 👍👍
They've been the gold standard for at least two years now! No one else is even remotely close to the quality of data TXG is producing.
Ian & Matty, this video is nothing short of outstanding. Absolutely fascinating, I so wish I had the chance to fly to Toronto from Vancouver to do a master fitting with Ian.
As someone with small hands this absolutely verifies what I feel. Time to get those grips standardized across my clubs!! Thanks boys. Love it.
Wow! thanks for clear this up. well done 👍
Also to Ian and the guys, I would really love to see this type of breakdown with GEARS to determine if moving weight in the head impacts face rotation. We've all heard the "toe weight slows face rotation" but personally I don't think it does and I have never seen a test that actually proves it.
Loved this video! Thanks guys!
Hey guys ! Great stuff ! could you try the Jumbomax grips out and see how they affect the swing?
Love jumbo max grips (Bryson’s grips) much better than playing with standard at least for me. I switch all my clubs over to jumbo max and it’s made a world of difference for me.
very interesting stuff guys. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome information, love these videos
we need you guys to re open lol, been itching for my fitting!
I'm the blocks and hooks guy! Especially with the driver. Playing MCC +4, and have been considering more tape underneath. Midsize intimidates me a little, but seeing this, I might reconsider.
super contend gents 👍👍! your pioneers in regard of golf tech knowledge. testing, validating, proofing... awesome!
good investment; the gears system
looking forward too more of this
Hi Guys, what about “golf pride plus 4” vs normal taper?
Congratulations again for your video! Is there any chance to evaluate the swing performance based on different types of grips? Interlock, overlap and 10 fingers? Again... you are the best on CZcams
His swing looked different to me with the jumbo grips. More stable. I never thought the aoa would be more. It looked like it was shallower rather than steeper. Great vid. Thanks!
This is fascinating. All my clubs have midsize grips except my TS2 7 wood (standard align grip) and I can not for the life of my prevent it from going left even with it set to flat. Time to add the midsize!!
Thanks for the great video! For reference, can you provide us with Matty's hand measurement (wrist crease to middle finger tip)? Cheers.
I have oversize grips on my driver and woods but standard on my irons. I experimented over with them over the winter and that’s what just works for me
Still love the original video, but great job adding the gears technology!
Ian, you are a true technician
I understand why you are the 2nd best clubfitter in North America 😎
Interesting stuff, it will be interesting to see how you roll this information into your fittings. This technology will unlock some more doors for your fittings. Pretty Cool!!!
Interesting video guys. Keep it up
I'll foreshadow the specifics about deflection that Ian hinted at near the end of the video. I read a published paper that demonstrated increases in shaft deflection with increases in rotation. So the undersize grip causing increased rotation is ALSO increasing shaft deflection, and the oversize grip with slower rotation has less shaft deflection respectively.
Wow, that was really enlightening.
Went back and rewatched this video. Amazing insight here.
Ian, what size grips are you playing in 2021? Did the insight you gleaned from your grip size testing influence you to change your grip size - and if so, what were the results?
I'm playing Lamkin midsize grips, which I love - but they're getting a bit glassy and hard now (time for a regrip). I definitely need new grips, but I want to retain all of the great things that have been happening with my irons over the last two years (with the midsize grips). Is this something that can/would be covered in an iron fitting at TXG? I think that - seeing the results of a grip size change on GC Quard, along with a TXG fitter's input - would provide the best outcome. I also think I have answered my own question!
Let us know if you changed your grip size after this video.
Fantastic content - love (and appreciate) all of your videos!!! ~JT
Great vid chaps as usual - this makes me wonder... I like to use a winter glove pair when it's chilly - with the slight extra thickness & glove on both hands is that effectively increasing grip thickness / decreasing pressure and therefore increasing spin loft? 🤔 could be an interesting follow-up with gears on how glove / no glove / pair etc affects this
Excellent, I have beem waiting for you to return to this. Noticed that a lot of club fitters will fit you for a club then ask at the end what grip you would like. Surely that makes a difference to the swing, particularly someone like me who likes the GP MCC Plus 4? Tony
Just got my new irons in, went with midsize grip mcc +4. Coming from stock taylormade standard size grips. These new ones feel way different, and my hand size is right at the top of standard, and bottom of midsize. Will take awhile to get used to I feel, but looking forward to playing them.
I would love to know what the MCC plus4 does in terms of this. Or the 0 taper grips.
I’ll take Matt’s swing on his worst day. So consistent ughhhhhh 😭jelly but love it.