Sound Like Bill Ward (Black Sabbath) | Without Busting the Bank

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
  • Welcome back to another episode of Andertons TV on the drum channel! Today, we will take you through how to sound like the Legend Bill Ward from Black Sabbath!
    Gear used:
    Mapex Mars Kit - bit.ly/313Bouh
    Pearl Utility 14x8 Snare - bit.ly/2SF1Bwh
    Sabian XSR 16" Fast Crash - bit.ly/2JVX2Li
    Sabian XSR 18" Fast Crash - bit.ly/2SG0zQn
    Sabian XSR 14" Rock Hats - bit.ly/2K44bYE
    Paiste PST8 20" Rock Ride - bit.ly/2LH7qZh
    Mics used:
    Overheads - AKG C214s - tinyurl.com/y2q...
    Kick - Audix D6 Kick Drum Mic - tinyurl.com/yyj...
    Snare - Audix I5 Dynamic Mic - tinyurl.com/yxr...
    Tom 1 - Audix D2 Dynamic Instrument Mic - tinyurl.com/yxk...
    Tom 2 - Audix D4 Dynamic Instrument Mic - tinyurl.com/yyy...
    Room - Neumann TLM102 Studio Condenser Mic in Nickel Finish - tinyurl.com/y2c...
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Komentáře • 78

  • @Apehanger2112
    @Apehanger2112 Před 5 lety +75

    I'm just glad to see anyone giving Bill the attention he deserves.

  • @MetalJesus157
    @MetalJesus157 Před 4 lety +12

    Thanks for the effort, but as Black Sabbath fan I can tell you that this sounds nothing like his kit. Definitely should have kept the rack tom, opened up the bass drum more, and gone with a different snare. Maybe with some coated skins. Also, he tunes his drums tighter than you'd think. Similar to Bonham.

  • @thinkforyourself5672
    @thinkforyourself5672 Před 4 lety +11

    Those XSR hats actually sound really really good. I'm impressed

  • @sethyboo2361
    @sethyboo2361 Před 5 lety +46

    In his early days, he never used reso side heads, and he tuned his toms real high. This sound nothing like Bill Ward’s kit

    • @thomaskennydrums
      @thomaskennydrums Před 5 lety +9

      Snare is far too low as well

    • @sethyboo2361
      @sethyboo2361 Před 5 lety +8

      Also, the snare wires are to lose

    • @akastonefaceddog
      @akastonefaceddog Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah, way off, no comparison at all. Nice that Bill Ward's still being thought of though.

    • @murlinevans3722
      @murlinevans3722 Před 4 lety

      Maybe Bill Ward on a budget? No,not really that either

    • @legitpolice897
      @legitpolice897 Před 4 lety

      It’s sound like not sound identical

  • @Blakey
    @Blakey Před 5 lety +34

    I think you should increase the range by a bit I think drums is a more expensive instrument so I don’t think it makes sense to match the price of the guitar version. The guitars the guys pick out are mid range where as here I think they are lower range which doesn’t give the diversity and options as the mid range and I’ll think it make it more interesting than okay well get a mapex armoury or mars the same brand cymbals the guy plays and a snare which is the same size

  • @jasonstone8587
    @jasonstone8587 Před 5 lety +4

    Cheers guys love BlackSabbath. ...I started listening to them in the 80s so I'm still late as a fan....but wow just listening to all the modern metal bands (the good ones) you can hear the influence

  • @davidoglesby6771
    @davidoglesby6771 Před 5 lety +5

    QOTSA have some killer drum sounds
    Especially the early records

  • @larkstonguesinaspic4814
    @larkstonguesinaspic4814 Před 5 lety +23

    Geez with the prices for cymbals and stuff you can't really sound like any drummer without busting the bank

    • @jalel_z2867
      @jalel_z2867 Před 4 lety +2

      You can always find something cheap on Facebook Marketplace and eBay

  • @astroman1387
    @astroman1387 Před 3 lety +3

    Well this is off, soooo here's my take on it.
    Ludwig maple kit-
    22x16 ( slight muffling)
    13x9
    16x16
    18x16
    Tom's tuned medium to high tension.
    Snare tuned medium to low tension.
    Standard size cymbals really just pick out an older sounding 50s line Zildjian k's, paiste giant beat ect.
    Long live Sabbath. \m/

    • @DannyGadish
      @DannyGadish Před rokem

      Agreed, it's like they just chose random drums and cymbals and just went for a standard hard rock sound.

  • @jackthomson5047
    @jackthomson5047 Před 3 lety +5

    Please do bill Ward again and do him justice this time

  • @jasonstone8587
    @jasonstone8587 Před 5 lety +14

    How about doing Panteras Vinnie Paul , in my eyes the ultimate Modern Metal Drummer...or Slayers original drummer would be cool...thanks guys great vid...I was jamming along with the drummer....

    • @AndertonsDrumDept
      @AndertonsDrumDept  Před 5 lety +1

      Noted!

    • @orionbenjamin7484
      @orionbenjamin7484 Před 4 lety +1

      @@AndertonsDrumDept yep! Vinnie, would be great...and just for fun How about some old school Alex Van Halen in there also...(no budget:) lol

  • @Amarilliobrillo
    @Amarilliobrillo Před 5 lety +4

    I would have loved something on the earlier days, like the first two albums with the Ludwig kit, but this is good too

  • @shinitaisenpai9057
    @shinitaisenpai9057 Před 4 lety +16

    neither the sound of the kit nor the playing sounded anything like Bill Ward.

    • @adamjacksonmedia
      @adamjacksonmedia Před 3 lety +1

      I agree wholeheartedly. The feel was wrong. The kit doesn’t have anything near to Bill Wards tone. It should be called, how NOT to sound like Bill Ward.

  • @IbCurlyBass
    @IbCurlyBass Před 5 lety +7

    Sound like Cozy Powell and Nicko McBrain

  • @davidoglesby6771
    @davidoglesby6771 Před 5 lety

    This is awesome guys.
    I'm glad your doing a drum version of this in conjunction with the guitar one.
    Drum sounds are just as important than guitar sounds

  • @C0zyDunt
    @C0zyDunt Před 5 lety +3

    Standout cymbal? The Paiste Rock ride, awesome.

  • @mattryan6886
    @mattryan6886 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the floor toms as rack toms for this kit and the huge Pearl snare. The weak point is those Sabian cymbals. I really don’t like the sound of those. I think Zildjian or Meinl would have been much better choice. The Paiste pst EFX cymbal range is fantastic. Granted not really appropriate for Bill Ward drum sound I’ll readily admit. Check out the Bill Ward Reverb shop video of him telling the stories about the gear he was selling. The Zildjian cymbals from the first album the 18” crash/ride that War Pigs was recorded with. Then the 2 double bass kits the beautiful Ludwig double 26” bass drums and the Ringo star similar color kit. Then the green premiere double 26” bass drums, that 8x14” snare drum. That snare sounded beautiful 😻 Bill even comments on it very fast/high action. Hopefully that gear does not sit in a museum. It would be nice for it to still make music with. The Zildjian’s from 60’s from first album, maybe should be in museum so some idiot playing too hard on them and break them would truly be a Sin.

  • @LysergicJesus
    @LysergicJesus Před 4 lety +5

    This does not sound like Bill Ward lmao, glad you're giving him attention though.

  • @elixtido1448
    @elixtido1448 Před 5 lety +5

    First drum part sounded like War Pigs. Had to slow it down 25% to get the right vibe. Hint: never speed up a Sabbath song

  • @the_wet_snare_ofcl1378
    @the_wet_snare_ofcl1378 Před 4 lety +3

    I love your sound likes. Could you please do Dave Grohl of either Queens of The Stone Age( Songs for The Deaf), Foo Fighters or Nirvana.

  • @jonathancant2031
    @jonathancant2031 Před 3 lety +2

    Jeff Porcaro from TOTO please

  • @andrewcottingham858
    @andrewcottingham858 Před 4 lety +2

    you should partner with the guitar dep. to do a sounds like a band eg green day
    in one longer vid and play as a group

  • @thevelointhevale1132
    @thevelointhevale1132 Před 2 lety +2

    Sounds nothing like Bill or his Kit ... but Bill is the man.

  • @shanerone1181
    @shanerone1181 Před 5 lety +13

    Sound like Ginger Baker

  • @LarkVsOwl-de3op
    @LarkVsOwl-de3op Před rokem

    If you're going for Master of Reality sounding drums, sure. The earlier recordings, Bill used higher tensions. So somewhat correct!

  • @bryserpentine2006
    @bryserpentine2006 Před 3 měsíci

    Req Sound Like Hellhammer (Mayhem)

  • @jefflozon8000
    @jefflozon8000 Před 2 lety +2

    Bill’s toms were tuned high.

  • @tonedowne
    @tonedowne Před 4 lety

    I would have gone for a Gretsch catalina club in big sizes with the rounded bearing edges to get that Slingerland kind of sound. Pretty sure they come with coated heads as stock. Then put some Stagg classic series cymbals with it.

  • @stephanycrocker5847
    @stephanycrocker5847 Před 3 lety

    Alex, agreed.Bill Ward is pretty good.

  • @jackthomson5047
    @jackthomson5047 Před 5 lety +3

    Great drummer too. Listen to the wizard... Wow

  • @joaogabrielfigueiredo8878

    Matt Helders(Arctic Monkeys), Patrick Carney (Black Keys), QuestLove (The Roots), Larnell Lewis (Snarky Puppy), Steve Jordan (John Mayer Trio) PLEASE!!!

  • @williepoe9026
    @williepoe9026 Před 4 lety +1

    Shannon larkin

  • @ericsmith6451
    @ericsmith6451 Před 5 lety +3

    Guys should do sound like Alex Van Halen

  • @morioh6505
    @morioh6505 Před 4 lety +2

    Do dave grohl nirvana era

  • @nicholasrozman6027
    @nicholasrozman6027 Před 2 lety

    hello

  • @stephanycrocker5847
    @stephanycrocker5847 Před 3 lety +3

    Stopped at 3:54.That is not how he played Paranoid at all.

  • @KnEpH131
    @KnEpH131 Před 4 lety

    Cymbal stand hardware?

  • @dylanfrondle7274
    @dylanfrondle7274 Před 4 lety

    busting the bank bill ward

  • @kevinwelker5755
    @kevinwelker5755 Před rokem +2

    Wa?? Not even close

  • @ochocabra1542
    @ochocabra1542 Před 3 lety +4

    this entire thing was an utter waste of everyone's time. 4 ears between them and they don't hear a single thing Bill Ward ever did

  • @matejtrcka
    @matejtrcka Před 5 lety +1

    I'm glad I'm playing guitar :D

  • @craigoliver3709
    @craigoliver3709 Před rokem

    Early sabbath bills drums weren't that big compared to his later suzes,and the first 4/5 albums bill used super 5 star zyns

  • @ConCon4444
    @ConCon4444 Před 5 lety

    I would rather see all of these, including the guitar ones, with higher budgets! I wanna see some expensive ass nice cymbals

  • @walterferrydissmann542
    @walterferrydissmann542 Před 4 lety +1

    there is no black sabbath without a cowbell :P

  • @Apitome1
    @Apitome1 Před 4 lety

    Vinnie Paul

  • @eldiablo3794
    @eldiablo3794 Před 2 lety +4

    I am a huge Bill Ward fan. I would have rather you guys not attempted to sound like him at all because this video and especially the guy who did the drumming was absolutely trash lol. Sounded absolutely nothing like Bill.

  • @bogfish9664
    @bogfish9664 Před 4 lety

    £1413.50 ? So that means you got a hat stand AND a kick pedal with the remaining £86.50?

  • @prowlerzinho
    @prowlerzinho Před rokem +2

    Watching this video was a total waste of time. Nor the sound, nor the drumming has nothing to be with Bill Ward.

  • @RevDrKillJoy
    @RevDrKillJoy Před 5 lety +1

    Ginger Baker

  • @thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396

    drum wise. your dead on with the sound

  • @ipguyman108
    @ipguyman108 Před 2 měsíci

    Ugh..

  • @nolanmacdougall1154
    @nolanmacdougall1154 Před 5 lety +2

    I have more money in just hardware than your budget increase your budget to 2500-3000$

  • @josteinv.jordet257
    @josteinv.jordet257 Před 4 lety

    Wow! Sabian XSR actually sounds pretty bad!

    • @KeeperOfPoops
      @KeeperOfPoops Před 4 lety

      no it does not, it sounds pretty good

    • @josteinv.jordet257
      @josteinv.jordet257 Před 4 lety

      Sounds like Sabian

    • @Scale_Slotcars_Latvia
      @Scale_Slotcars_Latvia Před 2 lety

      @@KeeperOfPoops I think in America bad means good , and sick means great .God bless the poor English language 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦‍♂️