Battle of the Ports - Gradius / Nemesis (グラディウス) Show #94 60fps

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    Many of you wanted this if the amount of mails are anything to go by so here it is - Battle of the Ports - Gradius.
    Time Code
    00:31 - Arcade
    02:46 - Commodore 64
    04:31 - Amstrad CPC
    06:04 - ZX Spectrum
    06:57 - PlayStation Portable
    08:42 - Game Boy
    09:58 - MSX
    11:53 - NEC PC 8801
    13:22 - Sharp X1
    15:00 - Sharp X68000
    16:35 - Famicom / NES
    17:42 - PC Engine
    19:37 - Saturn
    21:51 - All versions side by side
    Enjoy!

Komentáře • 212

  • @rafaellima83
    @rafaellima83 Před 7 lety +40

    The MSX version blew away everything we had seen on MSX at that point. It was just *AMAZING* stuff for the machine. It was the first game to be distributed in a 128kb rom (every other game was either 16 or 32kb).. this actually gave a big headache to pirates as there was no way to dump the whole game to the MSX ram like with previous games, and hardware was developed to be able to emulate any 128kb (and later 256kb) cartridges.
    I never cared about the choppy scroll to be honest, to me this game played like heaven when I first saw it

    • @reerjgiorge
      @reerjgiorge Před 4 lety

      You are joking, right?

    • @JesterEric
      @JesterEric Před 4 lety +7

      Its no joke. The MSX version was amazing at the time. I never noticed the scrolling or had any problems avoiding bullets. The MSX version was much more playable than the NES

    • @PlasticCogLiquid
      @PlasticCogLiquid Před 4 lety +3

      @@JesterEric Yeah when I was a kid I never noticed stuff like that. The NES sprite flickering was something I never payed attention too and it didn't bother me a bit.

    • @valrond
      @valrond Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, this is a another game were retrocore only cares about the "choppy" scroll. This is the easiest Nemesis game, and it isn't hard for the scroll. I grew up playing this game, it wasn't a problem. The problem is trying to play them at 60 hz now instead of 50 hz.

    • @rafaellima83
      @rafaellima83 Před 4 lety +1

      @@reerjgiorge Well, if you can show me an MSX game that looks more impressive than that released before Gradius, be my guest :)

  • @Corad4
    @Corad4 Před 7 lety +17

    I beat the NES version of this game with a busted NES MAX controller without dying. It was a fun night.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 7 lety +4

      That must have been quite a challenge.

    • @Corad4
      @Corad4 Před 7 lety +3

      My left thumb was definitely sore afterwards.

  • @javirodriguez6852
    @javirodriguez6852 Před 6 lety +14

    Gradius always was (and in fact, it still is) one of my all-time favourite games. I first played it on a MSX in 1987 and later I have had the opportunity of playing it in many more systems so I've been able to make comparisons between them. Seeing this video many people may think that the MSX conversion is an awful port because of the choppy scroll (because 1st generation MSX didn't implemented scroll by hardware, something solved in 2nd gen MSX computers) but I suggest people play the MSX version entirely. Seeing only the first stage is not enough to judge it. If we take a look only to 8-bit systems, apart from the excellent NES port, the only one that satisfied my needs was the MSX port. It's colorful, its graphics are cool and detailed, its music and sounds are great, it has 4 extra hidden stages and it was the first MSX cartridge with 1 Mbit (128 KB) in order to keep everything in. Despite its scroll it's a wonderful port and one of the best beloved games for any MSX user.

    • @JesterEric
      @JesterEric Před 6 lety +2

      When you actually played the game you did not notice the scrolling on the msx version. The nes version had better graphics and scrolling but was a worse game because the sprites were too big for the size of the screen

  • @firisrozley5768
    @firisrozley5768 Před 9 lety +13

    Ah, this game is one of my childhood memories that I ever played on a multicart tape during my Micro Genius (a Famicom clone) era in the 90s. Awesome comparison!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +5

      Believe or not but my first experience of Gradius was also on a Famicom pirate multi cart way back in the late 80s.

    • @gunma747j
      @gunma747j Před 7 lety +2

      Retro Core same but I was play in a gba multi cart

  • @METAL1ON
    @METAL1ON Před 3 lety +4

    The MSX version also has 4 secret stages and the version being played in this overview is the scc version and not the original release that only used the 3 channels of the MSX sound.

  • @BlakeIzayoi
    @BlakeIzayoi Před 7 lety +9

    Gradius has to be one of my all time favorite side-scrolling shooter games. It's just fantastic, in my opinion.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 7 lety +4

      Yep, Gradius is sure on if the classics. It can be annoying at times however it does keep you coming back for more.

  • @fireb0y0
    @fireb0y0 Před 4 lety +6

    The choppy(actually, stepped by 8 pixels)scroll of the MSX version is a hardware limitation. The MSX has not hardware scrolls, so you can't do pixel scrolling without using a lot of CPU and redefining screen characters all the time. Not good for a shooter. But the playability is a lot better than the other 8bit computers, even the C64. The included music+effects gives a really good port. The version that you show on the video uses an special sound cartdidge, the SCC, that adds 5 extra voices to the 3 voice standard on any MSX1. In fact, the Sharp has the same sound as the MSX original(launched on 1986) version. The version you show was included in a special pack launched later by Konami itself for disk based MSX.
    And there is also a homebrew version of the game that uses 2 SCC chips for voice support, and modified graphics, and also smooth scroll(MSX2 or better). Take a look of it, please.

  • @RyuHayabusa06
    @RyuHayabusa06 Před 9 lety +6

    Just discovered your channel a few days ago and love it! I love these comparison videos.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +1

      +RyuHayabusa06 Cheers man. Please spread the news about my channel to your friends.

  • @kenwheeler3637
    @kenwheeler3637 Před 7 lety +12

    Gradius is one of my favorites. I'm most familiar with the NES port and it is punishing. Took me ages to finally beat the damn thing. It's strange that I never came across the game in the arcade. Perhaps it wasn't widely distributed in the US?
    I love that here are so many ports of this game. It's a shame that I'd have to be wealthy to be able to play the Japanese computer ports on original hardware.

    • @LordOdyseus
      @LordOdyseus Před 6 lety +1

      Ken Wheeler that's strange, coz it took me a couple of months to beat it, specially when I was playing other games

    • @marioghernandez4960
      @marioghernandez4960 Před 5 lety

      Also the NES version only lets you have two Options/Multiples/whichever fans prefer to call them. Sucks, don't it?

  • @chris.bilson
    @chris.bilson Před 4 lety +3

    As a kid and a Sega fan I loved this game and made me buy a Game Boy to bring it home.

  • @alexche1520
    @alexche1520 Před 3 lety +2

    Gradius series is one of my favorite franchise all the time, it is the series that I started to collect retro games.
    I spent 4 years to collect all the physical versions of the entire Gradius, Parodius and Salamander series not only you showed in this video, but also include all the compilations contain one or more games from the series like Konami GB Collection and Konami Arcade Collection DS, also the 3 compilations on PSP and the Konami MSX Collection on Sega Saturn and PS1.
    I think the sharp x1 and pc-8801 version are the rarest version to collect out side of Japan, but luckily, after 4 years' searching I got them both in a day!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 3 lety

      I do like the translucent Famicom carts for Gradius.

    • @alexche1520
      @alexche1520 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RetroCore Exactly, this is quite unique style cross all Famicom cartridges.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před 8 lety +13

    Something weird I noticed about the NES/Famicom Gradius is that the sound effects don't kick in until the music intro stops. How weird.

    • @MetalSonicodraco7342
      @MetalSonicodraco7342 Před 8 lety +4

      I don't truly know why that happen, but I guess that the music of the intro (Beginning of History) is using all of the Voices of the NES sound chip?

  • @RedRanger2001
    @RedRanger2001 Před 3 lety +1

    "Mom, can I get Gradius?"
    Mom: We have Gradius at home.
    Gradius at home: 4:45

  • @MrSegAsh
    @MrSegAsh Před 9 lety +3

    Having recently stumbled across your channel, I am really enjoying these BOTP Videos :-)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety

      Thanks. Hope you stay and can recommend the channel to your friends.

    • @MrSegAsh
      @MrSegAsh Před 9 lety +1

      +Retro Core Yes, i have already have, alot of people in the retro arcade community. I am from Blackpool so have big retro arcade roots.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +1

      Oh man, I would go to Blackpool a lot! I'm from Liverpool originally. The best places we had for arcades were the Bright Spot in New Brighton, Southport and of course, Blackpool. Rhyl had some good arcades at one point too.
      In Liverpool we had two pretty good racdes being Las Vegas and Aladdins Palace. Aladdins Palace has th massive Virtua Fighter 3 on release but some dick smashed the screen only q week later. They also had a cool two player Manx TT set up.

    • @MrSegAsh
      @MrSegAsh Před 9 lety +2

      +Retro Core We had Corel Island and Mr B's and Funland 😀

  • @lordkaicer
    @lordkaicer Před 9 lety +3

    My first gradius was the NES, I still have the famicom 1 and 2, but after I played the pc engine one I never go back to the nintendo ones. Portable PSP is the one to go. Also have gradius collection. But pc engine have me enchanted. Great video.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +2

      I can take or leave the PC Engine version because I have the Saturn version but I do love the audio on the PC Engine game.

  • @heilong79
    @heilong79 Před 4 lety +2

    I remember on Blades of Steel for the nes the game had an intermission where you could play a mini gradius.

  • @TheMadTanuki
    @TheMadTanuki Před 8 lety +4

    One thing about the X68000 port (and all Konami games on the Sharp for that matter): it doesn`t seem to support (of for the life of me I cannot figure it out) scanlined video modes. Only the hi-res mode works, but of course, the graphics are not hi-res at all so it looks a little blocky (and yes I have an original dual Frequency Sharp monitor).
    When I got the sharp (first game I had was parodius, same issue) at that time the system of my dreams, ended up to be a major blow from which I still have to recover fully (thankfully enough the majority of other brands all included scanlined graphics modes, but alas).
    Ironically, as I can connect a PSX to the Sharp monitor using the Selecty 21 splitter, I got to play the X68000 Akumajou Dracula with full scanlines via Playstation and with the X68000 sitting right beside it, it looked as if it was running on it. I say ironically because it looks much better on PS thanks to the low res scanlined mode. Konami, what the heck were you thinking (facepalm)

  • @MaidenHell1977
    @MaidenHell1977 Před 5 lety +2

    Amazing comparison video. Thank you for taking the time to make it.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      No worries. thanks for watching.

  • @williamwilliam9993
    @williamwilliam9993 Před 4 lety +3

    12:09 in the mid 80's when european users playing computer game on spectrum and commodore 64 with japanese playing computer game on the x1, msx, fm-7, and pc-8801. in america they playing on apple ii and ibm pc. The japanese ports while that don't look very colorful they play certainly well

  • @birgerolovsson5203
    @birgerolovsson5203 Před 2 lety +1

    I LOVED Nemesis on my MSX in the 80's.

  • @MODDEDbyBACTERIA
    @MODDEDbyBACTERIA Před 9 lety +8

    Nice video, well presented. Gradius is a game i've loved for years however i'm not good at it which is frustrating!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +3

      Thank! Yeah, Gradius can be a real pain if you loose your weapons in a tricky area. But I don't find it that frustrating for some reason.

  • @Octopuswithcorn
    @Octopuswithcorn Před 9 lety +3

    Were there two versions of Arcade Gradius? I remember the ground in the first stage looking a lot more pink.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +3

      Ah, you maybe thinking of Salamander / Life Force. It's easy to mistake the two as they are quite similar.

  • @alaggan
    @alaggan Před 2 lety +1

    The PC Engine conversion was excellent and arguably had better music than the arcade original :)

  • @Sonicxtremer
    @Sonicxtremer Před 9 lety +11

    The only problem on pce gradius is that there are slowdowns almost to the point that the action slows down like a lot.

  • @Bloodreign1
    @Bloodreign1 Před 8 lety +6

    From what I've heard over the years, the PS1 version has closer to arcade resolution than the Saturn on this one (as well as the Salamander pack). It had been pointed out many times over the years at the Shmups forum. Other than that, I own both Gradius packs (PS1 and Saturn), and find them pretty much identical myself.

  • @BlockABoots
    @BlockABoots Před 9 lety +6

    Hmmm my brother actual had the Amstrad Version, and i dont remember it looking like that at all (spaceship looks different), and it couldnt have been that bad as he completed the game, and from what i remember it was a good conversion. Maybe there was 2 different versions.....or attack of the rose tinted glasses maybe?. Damn if the PC-Engine version didnt have the scrolling up and down issue it would probably be the best version, thanks to the extra level and music

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +1

      I think it's a case of the rose-tinted glasses when it comes to the Amstrad version. I've though so many old games were great conversions only to play them recently and have all my memories destroyed :)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +1

      *****
      Ooh, that commoent won't go down with the Speccy fans :p

    • @BlockABoots
      @BlockABoots Před 9 lety +2

      I feel the Amstrad had the same fate as the Amiga with its constant Atari ST ports, the Amgia was capable of better conversions of games but 80% of the time just got sloppy Atari ST ports, much like Amstrad go down ports of the speccy code

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +2

      Funny how the Amiga got ST ports when the Amiga was meant to be the better system and better sellin system. You'd thing developers would make games on the Amiga then port them to the ST.

  • @Sonicxtremer
    @Sonicxtremer Před 9 lety +3

    There's also a bubble system version of gradius but these days the bubble system is so rare that you've couldn't find it anywhere

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +2

      Yes I know but it's just the same game but with a warmup countdown timer at the start. The Saturn, PlayStation and X68000 versions feature this timer.

    • @Sonicxtremer
      @Sonicxtremer Před 9 lety +1

      I've play both versions but Nemesis is a little bit harder due to enemy patterns and a lot more enemies shooting at you.

    • @Sonicxtremer
      @Sonicxtremer Před 9 lety +1

      Then again, the bubble system gradius is the ONLY version that Konami ever ported to home console and not the international version.

  • @byronlaw6491
    @byronlaw6491 Před 8 lety +4

    Fantastic video as usual. Love your work and am loving being subscribed.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 8 lety +3

      Thanks, Byron Law. I'm happy that you like my videos and channel!

  • @1983parrothead
    @1983parrothead Před 6 lety +2

    The FC/NES version is the earliest Konami Code game. Japanese gamers think of Gradius first when Konami Code is thought of.
    Sadly, most American gamers bring up the very prominent American NES Contra when thinking of the Konami Code.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 6 lety +1

      Yep. They tend to call it the Contra code too I've found.

    • @1983parrothead
      @1983parrothead Před 6 lety +1

      Retro Core Since the 1983 North American Video Game Crash, most Americans lost interest in space shooters, including Gradius.
      Before guns became very prominent in American video games such as from Wolfenstein 3D and DooM to Halo and Call of Duty, Contra was their best choice that's not a FPS due to FPS did not exist in excellent quality back in 1987.

  • @kaox44
    @kaox44 Před 2 lety +1

    I think the PCE is the best version. However the NES version is the one that sticks out better and more nostalgic.

  • @SikSlayer
    @SikSlayer Před 9 lety +2

    Great video. Happy Birthday Mark!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +3

      Thanks. I turned 40 yesterday. Celebrated by going out on the town until 6am!

  • @darkerfalcon3747
    @darkerfalcon3747 Před 9 měsíci

    The arcade version has 4 versions of the game:
    -The original Konami Bubble System Version (gradiusb)
    -The converted ROM Version (gradius). Waiting times, are reduced.
    -The European Version (nemesisuk). Same as the JP version. Except that is not a conversion but a dedicated rebuilt version on ROM (so Waiting times are removed) and some game flows are changed to make the game (quite) hard.
    -The American Version (nemesis). Like the EU version, this is a dedicated rebuilt version on ROM. But the major drastic change in this version, is the difficulty. The difficulty in this version was cranked up (making it, agressive). But to balance this, every time you die, orange enemies appears in order to easily power-up. Also this version provides you 3 continues.

  • @Tempora158
    @Tempora158 Před 9 lety +2

    Stage 1 of this game was ported to the SNES as a mini-game in Legend of the Mystical Ninja (i.e. the first SFC Ganbare Goemon game) with arranged music

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety

      +Tempora158 That's right and Xexex was in Goemon 2 or was it 3?

    • @Tempora158
      @Tempora158 Před 9 lety

      Retro Core Second Goemon game has Xexex

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety

      Tempora158
      Thanks for the reminder.

  • @marioghernandez4960
    @marioghernandez4960 Před 7 lety +7

    I play the third and fourth games on my PS2 everyday lol. They're awesome as all heck.
    (Not the third and fourth ports you showed, I mean the sequels)

    • @gunma747j
      @gunma747j Před 7 lety

      Mario G Hernandez gradius V?

    • @marioghernandez4960
      @marioghernandez4960 Před 6 lety +1

      Gunma the retro gamer No, Gradius III and IV. I have those on one disc for the PS2.

    • @MVC2fan1
      @MVC2fan1 Před 6 lety

      To me, i have Gradius Collection on My PSP.

  • @luke_y_444
    @luke_y_444 Před 2 lety +2

    My point of view :
    - The Famicom version is the most charming
    - The Saturn version is the best version
    - The PC Engine version is my favorite =)

  • @lactobacillusprime
    @lactobacillusprime Před 9 lety +2

    Lovely comparison, stellar video like always! Kudos!

  • @TheMathius78
    @TheMathius78 Před 9 lety +6

    Thaaank you, good sir! It kind of irks me how some of the retro gaming press talks about how terrible the chip-based audio of the PC Engine is. I have the X68000 and PC Engine versions of Gradius and the old Engine more than holds up to the FM synth of the other versions. Shameful.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +5

      +TheMathius78 That's because many of the idiots in the gaming press weren't even born when the PCE was in it's prime. Or if they were they must have been about 10.

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak Před 8 lety +1

      +Retro Core I was at least 12 when it came out in the US (as the TurboGrafx-16) and I thought it sounded pretty good versus other systems then. I'm sure it comes down to how developers use the capabilities of the hardware to the best they can be, and obviously Konami was able to work within the PCE's capabilities to produce quite an equal port, if not more, than the original. The music certainly has a lot more push with the percussion beats unheard before.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 8 lety +4

      Yeah, the PC Engine version is pretty impressive in the audio department. Hudson were another company that could produce good sound from the PC Engine. Yuzo Koshiro made the Mega Drive sound like a Konami SFC game on Slap Fight MD.

    • @TheMathius78
      @TheMathius78 Před 8 lety +5

      +Retro Core If anyone needs a refresher on how amazing the soundchip in the PC Engine can be just load up Dungeon Explorer. By far my favorite on the system audio wise.

  • @iliketogroundpeople4488

    Reason why I like to put it in full screen and fully streched is because I guess I like it when it's completely full screen.

  • @beansoup1088
    @beansoup1088 Před 4 lety +1

    Loved this video thanks for sharing

  • @MikeandKatieShow
    @MikeandKatieShow Před 6 lety +2

    Dang that's a lot of ports. Love this game though. And this series you got going :)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks. I'm sure I may have missed some Japanese obscure PC ports.

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      You can never have enough Gradius ports. 😉

  • @JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums

    I found a playable version on line at gameoldies site; it's the PC engine version and plays wonderfully!

  • @iwanttocomplain
    @iwanttocomplain Před 5 lety +2

    The X68000 is like head prefect, always top of the class. On a different note. I think the music in the volcano stage was borrowed for a scene in Akira.

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak Před 5 lety

      It makes you appreciate what the PC Engine could do!

    • @iwanttocomplain
      @iwanttocomplain Před 5 lety

      @@ChristopherSobieniak Are you saying the X68000 is a PC Engine?

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak Před 5 lety

      @@iwanttocomplain No, I meant that the PC Engine was capable of playing ports of classic arcade titles as good as the x68000.

    • @iwanttocomplain
      @iwanttocomplain Před 5 lety

      @@ChristopherSobieniak OK. Well JVC had a brilliant dev team it would appear, going to show how important knowledge of the hardware and programming talent are in these things. I'm playing a game called Kawasaki Superbike Challenge on the Mega Drive (Fusion) and all the opponents are scaled and rotated perfectly smoothly when Sega didn't do that in Super Hang On. It just has horrifically chosen colours and the visor is not rotated. I'm sat here thinking, if Domark rotated the visor and dash, this game would have been one of the most recognised on the system.

  • @Lightblue2222
    @Lightblue2222 Před 4 lety +2

    I grew up with the Gameboy version. Played the crap out of it. Quite possibly my 1st proper shmup.

  • @kattmonstret
    @kattmonstret Před 9 lety +3

    Awesome video, thanks! Want to try the Pce port now :) I also enjoy playing Gradius Advance (GBA), and Gradius III for Super Famicom (with massive slowdowns and all)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +1

      That is so true but I have to be careful about what I say when it comes to the PC Engine :p Even with its slowdown the PC Engine port is excellent. I'm still not a fan of that screen scrolling on stages that shouldn't use it :)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety

      I own Gradius III on the SFC. Great game but man, is it poorly programmed or what! That has to be the worst game for slowdown on a console that's well known for slowdown.

    • @leeboy2k1
      @leeboy2k1 Před 9 lety

      +Retro Core Yes I imported it back in the day playing it on a PAL modified SFC in 50hz!
      Slooow as feck, but that music was great though :)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +1

      leeboy2k1
      Indeed. The SFC Gradius III music is legendary!

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak Před 8 lety +2

      +Retro Core Still, at least they didn't try to compensate by shrinking the sprites down to fit, I see that as a decent trade-off.

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul Před 8 lety +2

    As I posted to someone else on another of your videos, there's no technical reason that the C64 and other machines which used the Atari 9-pin standard for controllers, couldn't have had 3 or more fire buttons. These machines had two analog lines, which could have been used to add extra buttons. It's just that nobody ever made such a joystick.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 8 lety +1

      Actually the C64 did use 2 buttons on some games. Not many but there were a few. The thing is, the old home computers were built with one thing in mind. Make them cheap and sell them high! This is especially true for all the 8bit systems.

    • @lurkerrekrul
      @lurkerrekrul Před 8 lety +2

      Yes, but the analog lines were already present on both the C64 and Amiga, companies just needed to make use of them. It wouldn't have cost anything extra because those machines already had them.
      On the C64, these lines were used for things like paddle controllers, the Koala Pad and mice. On the Amiga, they were used for analog joysticks, although there's no technical reason that they couldn't have been used for paddles as well. After all, an analog joystick is really just a set of paddles hooked up to a handle.
      Connecting a single button to each line would have been trivial and in addition to the original fire button would have resulted in a 3-button controller. When you consider that the analog lines registered from 0-255 (on the C64 at least), with each one being represented by a single byte, you could theoretically have up to eight buttons connected to each line, by adding resistors so that each button registered a different bit pattern.
      As I see it, this didn't happen because of a catch-22; Hardware makers didn't want the expense of adding additional buttons when there was no software to take advantage of them, and software makers weren't going to support a piece of hardware that didn't yet exist. I suppose a company could have created both a game and the controller, but it probably wouldn't have seen widespread adoption.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 8 lety +3

      I guess it boils down to the game developers being lazy too.

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      Might have helped if the systems came with two-button controllers. I think a lot of people were just keeping their old joysticks and devs tend to develop for the least common denominator tech wise

  • @SkyScourgeGod
    @SkyScourgeGod Před 3 lety +1

    I've got this one on the PSP and PC Engine. Both are fantastic in their own ways but also have their own flaws. The PSP version in the Gradius Collection is awesome to have on the go, but I'm a bit disappointed in the video out to a TV when using a PSP model that has the video out jack. Even component cables don't do much for it, its too blurry when using the alternate video modes it comes with even when pumped into an OSSC and is too small in normal mode due to how the PSP outputs its video to the TV (not a fault of the game of course, that's just how the PSP is). The PC Engine version is really nice, but as you mentioned before the screen does have to scroll up and down when moving in that way. Not a deal breaker at all, just a minor issue keeping it from being perfect. The music definitely makes up for it though. The X68000 version is insane. I wish I could afford an X68000, it's got so many great games that were either exclusive or just better than other ports. It's so rare and expensive though... :(

  • @gunma747j
    @gunma747j Před 8 lety +4

    wait, u also forget there is a gradius in pc 9801

  • @garbujotarso
    @garbujotarso Před rokem +1

    A que mais gostei foi a do PC Engine, mas a única que joguei e terminei foi a de MSX ainda nos anos 80, cerca de 40 anos atrás!! 😀

  • @alexche1520
    @alexche1520 Před 3 lety

    Actually there is another Famicom version which was not for sale called Gradius Archimedes, only 4000 copies available back then and become one of the most expensive cartridge on Famicom. The difference from this version is that it has Archimendes noodle packages instead of power-ups to promote the instant noodles brand Arukimendesu / Archimendes

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 3 lety +1

      Very cool. There have been a few noodle based game promos in Japan over the years. The most common being the UFO Super Famicom fighter.

  • @dpa27
    @dpa27 Před 9 lety +3

    Hit, at home. Keep, going!

  • @spacefractal
    @spacefractal Před 3 lety +2

    There has recently a Amiga port of this game:
    czcams.com/video/XFd0ayRvVuk/video.html
    Also its a port that avoid slowdowns when playing on a Amiga 1200 rather than Amiga 500.

  • @luisreyes1963
    @luisreyes1963 Před 5 lety

    One of my first games for when i had the NES. Been a shump fan ever since.
    What a shame TG-16 & Saturn owners never got to play Gradius since it was one of many titles never ported for the U.S. systems.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      Saturn Owners could play Gradius. Well, sort of. it's part of the Konami MSX collection for Saturn.

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak Před 5 lety

      At least the TurboGrafx 16 Mini will include both Gradius 1 and 2!
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboGrafx-16_Mini

  • @makaras
    @makaras Před 4 lety

    Found your channel a couple of days ago, and love it! I was a C64 guy in the U.K.
    What is that awesome "Challenger stage" music version from 0:04 to 0:36? Do you have the CZcams link to it?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for watching, makaras. I'm afraid I don't remember where I got that music from. This is quite an old video.
      Being a C64 fan you might like yo know that the most recent video in the Battle of the Ports series looks at the Sega game S. D. I. The C64 version wipes the floor with the speccy and CPC versions.

  • @okami242
    @okami242 Před 9 lety +1

    Great vid. There was another gradius port on the Nintendo ds Konami collection too.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety

      I was going to cover that but never did in the end due to time constraints :(

  • @neozeed1984
    @neozeed1984 Před 9 lety +3

    awesome BOP!

  • @gunma747j
    @gunma747j Před 7 lety +1

    there's a full weapon code for the msx version: pause the game(press f1) then type H Y P E R press return

  • @liamconverse8950
    @liamconverse8950 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I wonder if Gradius is a mispelling of gladius or something, because in some Wonder Boy games you can get gladius looking sword the game calls a gradius

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 4 měsíci

      I'd never thought of that. Could be a possibility.

    • @liamconverse8950
      @liamconverse8950 Před 4 měsíci

      @@RetroCore Yeah well if you write gladius in katakana it's グラディウス, Guradiusu. Which is exactly how gradius is spelled in Japanese, So actually it's kind of funny when I see English speakers correct other English speakers for saying 'gray-dius' instead of 'grah-dius'

  • @MarcBarkyMarta
    @MarcBarkyMarta Před 4 lety +1

    PS1 version is kinda missing, but it's practically the same as the PSP version and Saturn. Only difference is the PSP has those different display modes that stretch it, and the Saturn doesn't have the exact 256px wide resolution that the arcade game does (which the PlayStation could do). Also, good on not including the DS version - that's emulated (and hideous looking, I always hated the job done on that collection). Not M2's best work, but I'll probably lay the fault on Konami in that case for owning production and not caring how things looked.

  • @esathegreat
    @esathegreat Před 4 lety +1

    PC-Engine hardware is probably more powerful than the arcade machine

  • @roboyle
    @roboyle Před 9 lety +1

    Once again the Saturn excels... too late now though! Every time the SS features in BOTP, I always start thinking; 'what if?'
    Any reason why the PS version wasn't featured?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +4

      Saturn got a lot more recognition in Japan as it's clear to see with all the Japanese exclusive titles.
      I didn't cover the PlayStation version mainly because of time restraints plus I know that Saturn version is superior and I own that :) really though the main reason was due to time. This episode took a total of 11 hours to produce excluding the time it took to encode the video. Wow, 11 hours for a 30 minute video!

  • @1xWertzui
    @1xWertzui Před 4 lety +1

    ZX Spectrum: YEAH, HURT ME BABY, HURT ME PLENTY, MUHAHAHAHA!
    Amstrad CPC: first impressions: COLORS! MUSIC!, further impressions: meh
    C64: I like it but's it's kind of restricted of what it could have been
    MSX: inevitable blocky scrolling aside, it's probably the best staple of art how well a superior arcade machine game can be re-designed to an 8-bit computer. This should have been the basis of the other home computer conversions instead of the arcade machine!

  • @theshitpostdumpster91
    @theshitpostdumpster91 Před 6 lety

    the nes version was konami's first release for that system in the US.

  • @williamwilliam9993
    @williamwilliam9993 Před 4 lety

    It is the first konami arcade system board to have 68000 16bit CPU

  • @marioghernandez4960
    @marioghernandez4960 Před 6 lety

    So Mark, what was your favorite game in this franchise?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 6 lety

      None. I'm not really a fan of Gradius. IF I had to choose one it would be uld be the PS2 Gradius 5

    • @marioghernandez4960
      @marioghernandez4960 Před 6 lety

      Retro Core And why are you not a fan? What other shoot em up series fo you prefer? What was your favorite entry in THAT series?

  • @SkyScourgeGod
    @SkyScourgeGod Před 3 lety

    By the way, would you want to do a "Battle of the Ports" for Gradius 2? I'd love to see that one.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 3 lety

      Yeah, sure. There are many shows I'd still like to do. One day I'll get around to it 👍

  • @krisbagnall3683
    @krisbagnall3683 Před 4 lety +1

    Ah I remember the complete and utter dissapointment of my Amstrad cpc version I had saved up all my pocket money for! Utter tripe lol

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 4 lety

      😕 The amount of times European children must have been disappointed with computer game ports

  • @massivepileup
    @massivepileup Před 5 lety +1

    The GB version also had different bosses.

  • @geoserenity
    @geoserenity Před 5 lety

    i do miss the old scrolling text sometimes...anyway, psp version is my pick, nice quick portable action and not bad

  • @SilentRealm6677
    @SilentRealm6677 Před 4 lety

    Well i found gradius for sord m5 but it's been only a demo with few music from game

  • @DanielAyy
    @DanielAyy Před 5 lety

    I assume that you're planning on making an episode on Gradius II some day?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      Yep, sometime down the line that will be happening

    • @DanielAyy
      @DanielAyy Před 5 lety +1

      @@RetroCore neat! ^^

    • @UltraEpicLeader10020
      @UltraEpicLeader10020 Před 5 lety

      Can't wait. (Please don't use Vulcan Venture. It's a stupid name.)

  • @hil1893
    @hil1893 Před 8 lety +2

    the zx speccy port has in magazinez at the time the worng scrrensots

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 8 lety +1

      Yes, this is so true. I remember reading a Web site about this a while ago.

    • @MetalSonicodraco7342
      @MetalSonicodraco7342 Před 8 lety +1

      Salamander also suffered this.
      Both Speccy and CPC port in the back used C64 screenshot (actually a very good port) but damn, the Speccy and CPC could have been handle better things!

  • @gunma747j
    @gunma747j Před 7 lety +1

    and there have a arcade port for nds

    • @MVC2fan1
      @MVC2fan1 Před 4 lety

      Which is an emulation.

  • @PlasticCogLiquid
    @PlasticCogLiquid Před 4 lety +1

    Screw R-Type, I'll take Gradius any day

  • @leomon32
    @leomon32 Před 5 lety

    You miss out the version that come as an Omake on the game Goemon Ganbarre for the SFC ha ha

  • @alritedave
    @alritedave Před rokem +1

    Japanese micros were a step beyond.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před rokem

      Indeed they were. Or they just had far better developers.

  • @hil1893
    @hil1893 Před 8 lety +2

    ?wait the psp gradius is an emoltion or not

  • @8bitrocketstudios
    @8bitrocketstudios Před 3 lety

    One thing I can say about the Speccy is that the games are jus tas good or better that Apple 2 games. A machine that cost 20X as much!

  • @SilentRealm6677
    @SilentRealm6677 Před 4 lety

    You missed colecovision homebrew and Sega mark 3/master system homebrew

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 4 lety

      Homebrew I won't cover unless i know about it.

  • @chunkycjw
    @chunkycjw Před 9 lety +4

    Liked this game, back in the day, but was useless at it. Would have liked a port on the sega master system.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +1

      I think the Master System could have pulled off a pretty good port but no doubt the music would have been awful unless it made use of the FM channels found in Japanese systems.

    • @MetalSonicodraco7342
      @MetalSonicodraco7342 Před 8 lety +2

      +Retro Core
      Actually a Korean SMS (the SG-1000 for being more precise) port was discovered, is even for download in theisozone.com
      The port itself is less or more than a simple MSX port for the SEGA console, the music uses the PSG Music so it's not that bad but it's not at the level of the SCC sound obviously.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 8 lety +2

      MetalSonicodraco7342 yes, I k ow about this version but since its basically an illegal port of an inferior MSX game I don't really count it. I'd love to see a real Master System port using the FM audio.

    • @MetalSonicodraco7342
      @MetalSonicodraco7342 Před 8 lety +1

      Retro Core
      Yeah, I also will like to see a proper Gradius SMS port with FM sound, maybe using a engine like the one used in R-Type could have done some justice

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 8 lety +1

      MetalSonicodraco7342 yeah, a revamped version of the R-Type engine would work well. Oh well, unless some talented Master System fan takes on the project we'll never see it.

  • @KorenLesthe
    @KorenLesthe Před 2 lety +1

    The ZX version was part of a bullshot scandal in the UK press with a review in a magasine using hand made « screenshots » to show the game graphics witch looked a lot better (a bit like the Game Boy Nemesis level of detailed sprites).
    Off course when the game was released, people could see how much bullshit this was.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 2 lety +2

      This is very true. I remember that story well.

  • @losalfajoresok
    @losalfajoresok Před 9 lety +1

    The PSP version has no stars on the first level! Very strange....:O

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety

      Wow, I never noticed that. Maybe it was due to the captured video. I'll have to check that out.

    • @losalfajoresok
      @losalfajoresok Před 9 lety

      +Retro Core I checked another video and the stars are present....

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 9 lety +3

      Lord Alfajor
      Yes, you are right. Looks like an emulation glitch. As if one of the background layers was missing.

  • @gabrielloko30000
    @gabrielloko30000 Před 6 lety

    I tryied very hard to clear the game only to being frustated to the fact,that for example, The Japan arcade version of arcade doesn't give enough powerups while the European version gives LOTS of them...Just to fuck you hard because: More Powerups, More enemies. And the 5 or 7 Limit credits per game...which you can put 99 credits but you still gi back

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 6 lety

      Konami sure did make their games tough. I think this is doable but it is a right kick in the balls if you loose all of your power ups.

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      Well, arcade games. Trying to take that money and all.

  • @giuseppecalabrese396
    @giuseppecalabrese396 Před 6 lety

    👌👌👌!

  • @bhirawamaylana466
    @bhirawamaylana466 Před 8 lety

    no gba version ? why ?

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 Před 8 lety +2

      It's a later sequel, and not a port of the original game.

  • @williamwilliam9993
    @williamwilliam9993 Před 3 lety

    Hello

  • @jesuszamora6949
    @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

    You know, with all these games that have you mess around with the keyboard, why not just have an option to play with just that? Customize keys, have fun.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      They may do in some cases. Better still, system like the C64 can actually make use of two buttons so why not use them? They really were penny pitchers back then.

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      @@RetroCore Honestly, between this series and Chinnyvision, I get the picture of Euro home computers as being the domain of companies that gave no fucks about delivering a passable product, nevermind quality.
      Maybe the 83 crash was a blessing, since America was largely spared the trash...

    • @turrican4d599
      @turrican4d599 Před 2 lety

      @@RetroCore Don't know, why it would be bad to grab the spacebar. The Competition Pro with Auto-Fire on sitting on my lap, left hand goes to the spacebar. BAM!

  • @samcoupe4608KB
    @samcoupe4608KB Před 4 lety

    Zx spectrum the worst version and look at rtype what it could b?