Will Jonas Vingegaard EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN? (RECOVERY UPDATE)

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  • čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
  • Jonas Vingegaard was back on his bike after a long on recovery from a severe crash in the Tour of the Basque Country earlier in the year.
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  • @bg147
    @bg147 Před měsícem +182

    I would never doubt what Jonas can do. Until last year's Vuelta, I didn't like or cheer for him. However, he really showed what an unselfish teammate he was. He seems like a good guy and is modest.

    • @camillelively
      @camillelively Před měsícem +31

      I also love these things about him. Too many people say he’s boring or has no personality, but I just don’t agree. Remember when TJV finally decided Sepp would be official GC for the Vuelta, he immediately went into domestique mode.

    • @dylangrantz8124
      @dylangrantz8124 Před měsícem +12

      @@camillelively yeah after stealing stages and the optics looked like ass. always an excuse to steal a stage toddlers bday check. buddy in low speed car crash check. he is a douche

    • @camillelively
      @camillelively Před měsícem +23

      @@dylangrantz8124 I...huh? I would respond to this but it just makes no coherent sense. So...ok. Enjoy your day!

    • @timoz26
      @timoz26 Před měsícem +11

      @@camillelively Um, yeah. I'm with you. Don't let the trolls steal your good nature.

    • @gerlachsieders4578
      @gerlachsieders4578 Před měsícem

      ​​@dylangrantz8124 Dont be an ass yourself Dylan...Remember how he let Van Aert win the TT to Rocamadour in 2022..

  • @333wheeler
    @333wheeler Před měsícem +52

    I do not think his injuries are in the same league as Froomedogs or Bernal's . Its just the healing process . He looks in good nick weight wise . Confidence might be an issue possibly. Nothing to lose really . He either comes back great or is off a bit . No body would judge a below par showing and be to critical .

  • @vassilgeorgiev4805
    @vassilgeorgiev4805 Před měsícem +56

    What I think and will happen is he will comeback stronger!!!

  • @user-fk8rb8ue5h
    @user-fk8rb8ue5h Před měsícem +92

    I think he should look after himself and bugger the bloody Tour de France if he's not really ready to compete You only have one body you only have one life.

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 Před měsícem +9

      Agreed, look after yourself and your career
      There'll be pther Tours, no.point doing it half assed against Pog

    • @tsunemi4869
      @tsunemi4869 Před měsícem

      I smell scared Pogi fanboy all over this comment :)

    • @hikingmallard
      @hikingmallard Před měsícem

      Your sense of smell sucks

    • @Proranis
      @Proranis Před měsícem

      he has so much money i dont think he needs to feel pressure

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 Před měsícem +1

      @@Proranis huh ?

  • @robertnobles8189
    @robertnobles8189 Před měsícem +34

    I had a similar crash a few years ago with similar injuries, and recovery was pretty smooth and quick. When I crashed broke my hip and femur, that was a longer recovery, but I got back and stronger even after that.

    • @gerlachsieders4578
      @gerlachsieders4578 Před měsícem

      That is hopeful Robert!

    • @mikew466
      @mikew466 Před měsícem

      Even small injuries can derail you for that season. Even Pog's broken hand last year messed up his training schedule before TdF. So you never know and teams and riders will not disclose the real truth before a big event.

  • @alinapopescu872
    @alinapopescu872 Před měsícem +66

    Get well, really well, young man. The rest may wait.

  • @gerlachsieders4578
    @gerlachsieders4578 Před měsícem +11

    I have come to really appreciate this guy, I hope he gets well soon. Maybe the Vuelta would be a great starting point...

  • @JR-yr6gr
    @JR-yr6gr Před měsícem +33

    So fast back on the bike! Actually, I think he will come back even stronger!

  • @Dayla1960
    @Dayla1960 Před měsícem +8

    Thankyou so much for the update. I had heard nothing since his crash. Good recovery Jonas!

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 Před měsícem +15

    Visma was my favorite team last season and Jonas was fantastic in so many races until his recent accident, one of the transcendent riders, no question. And I cheer for him to make a full recovery, as I do for all riders, I hate crashes and the injuries they inflict. Yet, given the severity of what Jonas suffered, I think it is great he made this promotional appearance, especially when his rival Tadej is earning all the headlines in Italy, and if he can participate in the Tour, wow, good for him. But wouldn't it be a sort of LeMond in '89 situation, when Greg returned from injury and his greatest rival, Laurent Fignoun, was at the pinnacle of his career? His fans were happy to see Greg back in action, yet expectations were rightfully tempered and any solid performance would have been a success. And we know that he far exceeded expectations and that made his victory even more incredulous and joyous. So I think if Jonas comes into the Tour like that, no expectations, it would be seen as a win for him, a huge step in his recovery and maybe next year for more. 😀

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem +4

      I like your comments. Didn’t you use to race in Northern Virginia in three 80’s?

    • @robbchastain3036
      @robbchastain3036 Před měsícem +3

      @@scottsefton294 Thanks for asking, Scott, and yes, I did, a fun pursuit when I was a soldier back then. And cool to see that all these these years later we are still fans of it all. And how about yourself back in the day, what riding were you doing?

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem

      @@robbchastain3036 Robb, I was in the Air Force living at Fort Mayer and you introduced me to bike racing. I did some ultra marathon races and then became a Cat 4 criterium racer. We went on a long ride together along the canal to Potomac Md. As I recall, your chain broke 40 miles away from Ft. Mayer. We temporarily fixed it with a coke can tab. You introduced me to the Tour De France in 1985. Hinault won his 5th that year and of course the epic 1986 showdown between him and LeMond. I married a Danish woman so it was easy to become a Vingegaard fan. Hope all is well with you Robb. God bless you!

  • @RobertJWaid
    @RobertJWaid Před měsícem +15

    Each recovery is different and mostly mental and difficult to control. I hope for the best.

  • @okie3807
    @okie3807 Před 8 dny +1

    He's a great champion and ambassador for decorum, respect, and character. His legacy will include a comeback from severe adversity as he reaches for the highest levels of the sport.

  • @howlinhauler
    @howlinhauler Před měsícem +50

    skip the tour and go to La Vuelta

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem +9

      I hate to see him miss the TDF, but I think I agree. He needs to win the Vuelta sometime in his career anyway.

    • @DawnWright
      @DawnWright Před měsícem +1

      Is the Vuelta not for Sepp Kuss to lead?

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem +3

      @@DawnWright Are you new to the cycling world? If Jonas doesn’t make it to the start line at the TDF, Visma will need a GC leader, that would be Sepp Kuss . . . as a result, Jonas would more than likely become their GC leader at La Vuelta. Had Jonas not crashed, and say he was to win this years TDF, then Sepp and Jonas would be co-leaders at La Vuelta. They would decide on the road at La Vuelta who would become #1 and #2. Jonas stepped aside for Sepp at the Vuelta last year because he had a stomach bug the first week. Since Sepp had the lead, Visma decided to sweep all three spots on the podium and reward him for years of faithful super domestique service. Very classy move on Visma’s part, though Roglic wasn’t too thrilled.

    • @Mememeep
      @Mememeep Před měsícem +2

      @@scottsefton294 calm down, Scott.

    • @djnbgm8906
      @djnbgm8906 Před měsícem +1

      If skip tour de france boring because tadi not computation

  • @dahlakdahlak8740
    @dahlakdahlak8740 Před měsícem +1

    That is good to see Jonas V in good health,recovering and riding . Hopefully he will make full recovery soon and wish him well in future ..

  • @scninja07
    @scninja07 Před měsícem +3

    Good luck Jonas. Best rider over the past few years when peaking for a Grand Tour but Pogi is the best overall rider in the world at the moment.

  • @vanreichelderfer8053
    @vanreichelderfer8053 Před měsícem +1

    Prayers for a speedy recovery for Jonas! Hopefully he will fully recover and continue to be a dominant force in cycling! The Tour de France will not be the same without him.

  • @Nemosan01
    @Nemosan01 Před měsícem +4

    He knows if it’s right to go TDF or not…. What we think is irrelevant… I hope he will recover and knowing jonas is a sensitive and a thinker, I’m confident in the decision he makes. As a Dane I hope he can win if he competes, but I don’t wanna see him struggle and not able to perform. Then it’s better to come back in 2025. Jonas and pogacar is setting the TDF alive and I hope we all can enjoy the spectacle of them competing. It’s a magnificent performance to watch them compete ❤

  • @CaminoCarpet
    @CaminoCarpet Před měsícem +7

    Pogacar the only one not injured. Looks like he could win the Triple Crown of races with the big 3 out with injuries.

    • @tobiasdencker853
      @tobiasdencker853 Před měsícem +2

      roglic and evenpoel is going and vingegaard is very likely to go

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem +1

      He certainly could, but he has no self discipline and wastes too much energy when he doesn’t need to. He turns his strength into his biggest weakness. He is the most talented rider I’ve seen in my lifetime, but certainly not the best tactician. I think he will be totally burned out after the Giro and TDF. I do expect him to win both of those Grand Tours. His ego will enter the Vuelta and he will get trounced there.

    • @CaminoCarpet
      @CaminoCarpet Před měsícem

      @@tobiasdencker853 Maybe so, but they most likely will not be in top racing form giving the advantage to Pog if he wants to try race all 3 of the big races.

    • @CaminoCarpet
      @CaminoCarpet Před měsícem

      @@scottsefton294 His Achilles heel.
      Seems to want to try to win every stage, attempts to sprint up every hill, wants to cross every stage finishing line first.

  • @kkryspin
    @kkryspin Před měsícem +5

    Why wouldn't he be the same? It's not like he crashed like Froom or Bernal where he had Broken right femur, Broken patella, Broken ribs, Facial fractures, and Punctured lung. Let's go TDF!!!!!

  • @transparent6748
    @transparent6748 Před měsícem +11

    The gap between the tour and full recovery is doubtful but I’m sure he’ll be back with full strength 🙂🤞

  • @jenspetersen5865
    @jenspetersen5865 Před měsícem +2

    Unless there is a risk for Jonas long term health, I think that he should be at the tour. He has an amazing ability to recover in week 2 and 3, and kind of like Jan Ulrich in the past could bank on riding himself into form. Last year in the time trial it was evident that the relied on a lot of training as he was very precise in how he cut the turns, and there is no doubt that it will hurt him, but winning three in a row is too good to pass up.

  • @matejstankovic9843
    @matejstankovic9843 Před měsícem +8

    I think he can certainly get ready for the Tour but will not be competing for the win, so it would be better to skip it and focus on the Vuelta and next season

  • @Lena-hk2ih
    @Lena-hk2ih Před 10 dny +1

    Good luck Jonas. You are a legend

  • @Donkempf
    @Donkempf Před měsícem +1

    The boy is from the west coast - His bones are strong by nature - He is a completely different person than the other riders you mention. He also recovers better than most athletes in the world. I believe! 2024

  • @CycoPatPonfe
    @CycoPatPonfe Před měsícem +12

    Just a bump on the Road for Jonas! Jonas for Yellow. 💪

  • @stevestudley5685
    @stevestudley5685 Před 6 dny +2

    Thank you.

  • @patrickschulze3787
    @patrickschulze3787 Před měsícem +3

    I really like Jonas and I would have loved to see the fight between him and Pog at the tour, especially the way he has been riding this year. But I don't think there's any chance he can fight for the victory. His injury this year is a lot worse than Tadej in 2023. Pogi was back on the rollers after only a week, it took Jonas almost a month. I don't think he should do the Tour, he wouldn't be able to compete against such high level for a full three weeks and he is even more likely to have not just one but multiple bad days like Tadej did last year. In my opinion he should fully recover and build up to the final part of the season.

  • @josephhall1049
    @josephhall1049 Před měsícem +3

    would love to see him win the Tour this year and beyond and dominate the Tour like Nadal at the French Open.

  • @BrownDeluxe
    @BrownDeluxe Před měsícem +5

    if he does not win the tour, then the vuelta must be top target ! kom så Jonas!

  • @terryroach6481
    @terryroach6481 Před měsícem +2

    'Time and no pressure' - yep, that's part of the formula to get back. This won't be his year, but he'll be back. Hard to see a well run top team like Jumbo risking his long term health and viability just to have him on the start line next to someone like Tadej who has so far had a near perfect path to the TDF.

  • @wendysuperfan1014
    @wendysuperfan1014 Před měsícem

    Thank you. Good luck Jonas.

  • @RacerRobert-zy8jx
    @RacerRobert-zy8jx Před měsícem +1

    Jonas will Be back and we Will see him i battle With poda years to come! He is the best rider in the World 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

  • @gulfgal98
    @gulfgal98 Před měsícem +10

    From what I have read, Visma-LAB is not a team that pushes their riders to come back before they are ready. IMO, that means that Jonas will not ride the Tour unless he and the team feel he can do so competitively. In addition, Tadej Pogacar is tearing things up so why risk sending Jonas back too soon if he is not physically ready. IMHO, it might be better for Jonas and Visma-LAB to focus on other goals for the Tour and hold Jonas back for the Vuelta.

    • @jenspetersen5865
      @jenspetersen5865 Před měsícem +2

      Well Tadej Pogacar is burning his candle in both ends and Jonas has been very dominant in week 2 & 3 the last 2 years.
      If at all possible Jonas needs to get #3

    • @gulfgal98
      @gulfgal98 Před měsícem +3

      @@jenspetersen5865 I would love for Jonas to get #3 this year, but I would hate if Jonas is pushed too soon, aggravating his current injuries.

    • @WanderingSword
      @WanderingSword Před měsícem +1

      @@jenspetersen5865burning both ends? please, you are witnessing genrational dominance, something Jonas has never been accused of despite winning 2 Tours in a row huh.

    • @jenspetersen5865
      @jenspetersen5865 Před měsícem +1

      @@WanderingSword Generational dominance require that you win the hardest fought races.
      Pogi is impressive, but lets hope that Vingegaard is 100% for the TDF

    • @Soli11
      @Soli11 Před měsícem

      @@WanderingSword They are both called generational talents. Jonas is also very dominant in the races he races.

  • @tommanos2596
    @tommanos2596 Před měsícem

    He can do it. He has the mental toughness and commitment to excellence mindset that will enable him to return to the level of fitness that has enabled him to excel at the top echelon on cycling. Go Jonas!

  • @alvarodiamzon5069
    @alvarodiamzon5069 Před 6 dny

    both Pog and Vin are likeable man we are blessed as fans!

  • @milhouse53
    @milhouse53 Před měsícem

    Did your broadcast end with 40 sec for Pogacar to go?? And even if reloaded..it just ended?

  • @patrickwong4824
    @patrickwong4824 Před měsícem +4

    Funny aspect, wasn’t Wout injury very similar to Jonas's, as far as we know? Shouldn’t the same question be asked of Wout? I think given time both will be fine. Only Visma LAB will use the tour as a training ride for their superstars.

    • @Soli11
      @Soli11 Před měsícem

      Big difference is that Wout is not riding for GC. He can pick what stages to save energy and when to spend it. Jonas will not have that luxury. If the GC guys go, he has to go with them.
      And as far as I know then Wout's injuries were "only" broken collarbone and ribs. I have not heard anything of him having a punctured lung. It seems that it's the lung that is causing the most doubt about Jonas. It makes sense. You cannot climb well without your lungs being 100%.

    • @stineagerbk9234
      @stineagerbk9234 Před měsícem

      ​@@Soli11there was a broken sternum and a (late detected) pneumothorax on Wout's injury list too. And Jonas didn't have a fully punctured lung by the reports. He had contusion (bruise) and pneumothorax (air in the chest cavity, but not unlikely to be from a fully collapsed lung as they didn't discover it until the day after with Jonas either.)
      There's quite a lot of levels of this type of injuries and if the pneumothorax wasn't detected immediately, it likely was on the less severe side of the spectrum.

  • @pacificlint
    @pacificlint Před dnem

    Jonas is the one who can beat Tajei Pocacar this year again and win the Tour. I have no doubts. Go Vingegaard! 👏❤

  • @Blaze16159
    @Blaze16159 Před měsícem +10

    Jonas is one of the reasons I am a Visma fan. Hope we get to see him at the TDF.

    • @gerritlikestohike
      @gerritlikestohike Před měsícem

      Lets hope not. I want him to take time to recover. And have ride the Vuelta oder TDF 2025.

    • @Blaze16159
      @Blaze16159 Před měsícem

      Never said anything about riding lol

    • @johnmartin7158
      @johnmartin7158 Před měsícem +1

      @@gerritlikestohike. I think you’re right,to be competitive after what happened is no mean task. Can’t see him winning the 2024 Tour de France.

  • @brkaz5864
    @brkaz5864 Před měsícem +1

    Believe his determination to defend his TdF title will serve him well in coming back from recovery.

  • @fastfreddy9341
    @fastfreddy9341 Před měsícem +1

    His young age is certainly in his favor. I think he should listen to his body as he pushes it in training. If TDF is out this year for him, then he has a year to prepare for 2025...certainly not what he wants, but might be best. Whatever, I respect him and really appreciate his humility.

  • @concettadalimonte8476
    @concettadalimonte8476 Před měsícem +1

    J'espère qu'il reviendra à sa meilleure forme !! 😮😢on vera seul l avenir le dira 😊😊🎉bon courage a toi Jonas

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 Před měsícem +2

    thecyclingdane: “Will Jonas Vingegaard EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN?”
    answer: “No! He will be BETTER” . . . “Tell Pogacar that”

  • @toddh4491
    @toddh4491 Před měsícem

    Jonas is among my favorites and I hope to see you back and at full power! Like Froome, when I broke my femur, I was never the same, but Jonas is a superhuman with much different wounds and I hope he can overcome.

    • @tobiasdencker853
      @tobiasdencker853 Před měsícem

      People are forgetting that vingegaard is 27 and froome was 34

    • @stineagerbk9234
      @stineagerbk9234 Před měsícem

      And Vingegaard broke his femur in 2017, not in this crash. This crash had no lower body fractures.

  • @cooldude.1811
    @cooldude.1811 Před měsícem +1

    The good thing is that Vingegaard still has six weeks to recover fully, so I expect him to be at the TdF. Whether he will be able to compete through those three weeks at the same performance level as he has in the past two years - only time will tell.

    • @asnark7115
      @asnark7115 Před měsícem

      Given that Rog and WVA won't be there as the team's decoys, it won't matter. Pog can just sit on him and ride around him at leisure.

  • @koopalibrary
    @koopalibrary Před měsícem +1

    He looked fine in the video update. Unless his longs got damaged, he should be okay and in top form come TDF

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 Před měsícem +1

    (RECOVERY UPDATE) is the key in title. You gave a summary of his riding for the year, thus far. Go to the back of the class for detention.

  • @robertgiguere875
    @robertgiguere875 Před měsícem

    I think your right, the physical part can be fixed, but measuring the psychological effects are much less easy.

  • @user-qu2zx1fc6s
    @user-qu2zx1fc6s Před měsícem

    Rib injuries can be really nasty and take a long time to heal and bond back to the lung material. Also the risk of bacterial Pneumonia in the early stages of healing , he’s done really well to be back on the bike so quickly 👍

  • @DougBateson
    @DougBateson Před měsícem

    It remains to be seen if he can come back as strong; physically and mentally. And, a lot of this relates to how severe his injuries were and the trauma to his body and soul. We've seen a number of injuries in the past, albeit much more severe for example Chris Froome, where the rider, despite incredible and inspirational efforts to comeback, just haven't produced the rider they once were pre-injury. I can't imagine what it takes to go through this, and I hope that not only Jonas but any riders recently suffering injury are able to return to 100% for their sake and our sport. But, history might suggest different.

  • @wsmc723
    @wsmc723 Před měsícem +1

    He'll be fine. I've had the same scenario and I'm better than I ever have been and I'm a 60 year old chump! He's a bad ass with all the best resources at his disposal so I say again, he'll be fine.

  • @tonyg3091
    @tonyg3091 Před měsícem +6

    Oh c’moooon, what kind of title is that? Not a fan of Jonas, but let’s not write him off just yet.

    • @thecyclingdane
      @thecyclingdane  Před měsícem +1

      Lol you must be kidding hahaa I am a huge fan

  • @user-xm2un2sl7e
    @user-xm2un2sl7e Před měsícem +2

    The best rider man🇪🇷🇪🇷✅

  • @daniluis7777
    @daniluis7777 Před měsícem +2

    That’s one of the most stupid question I have ever heard.

  • @user-bl6kx5ev7x
    @user-bl6kx5ev7x Před měsícem

    Hope he is fit for the tour we need a good battle

  • @caktaylor
    @caktaylor Před měsícem

    It may be a bit too soon for the TdF this year, but Jonas is young enough that he can return to his old form.

  • @kathymurphy7217
    @kathymurphy7217 Před měsícem

    Come on Jonas! He will be back! He is young and strong.

  • @cynthianorwood9107
    @cynthianorwood9107 Před měsícem +2

    I am encouraged by the recovery of Greg Lemond when he came back from being shot in the back to win his third TDF win. Hopefully, Jonas Vingegaard can come this year.

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem +1

      LeMond’s injury was much worse and he did have to sit out the 1987 TDF. Jonas is on the road in only a month’s time and he was in incredible form at the time of his crash. Only question is will he return to winning form. I think they should hold him for the Vuelta.

    • @TheFeatInk
      @TheFeatInk Před měsícem

      Greg lemond had the advantage of being pumped full of steroids, PED’s, and amphetamines

    • @jenspetersen5865
      @jenspetersen5865 Před měsícem

      Greg Lemond also came back the year where the unknown anti-anemia drug EPO was released, not on the list of banned substances and when Lemond had magic recovery from anemia during the Giro by - according to Lemond getting injectable vitamins and iron shots...

    • @MichaelOprisiusr
      @MichaelOprisiusr Před měsícem

      Epo was in the pelton in 86 onward . Just saying

    • @cynthianorwood9107
      @cynthianorwood9107 Před měsícem

      @@MichaelOprisiusr not sure what this comment has to with topic of Jonas Vingegaard's recovery.

  • @richardmason6640
    @richardmason6640 Před měsícem

    hope hope hope he is ok to race his best. Mostly glad he is just ok and alive. But he absolutely is my top guy, even with Pogacar being an insanely pleasant and decent champion, there is just something about the blue collar working class energy from Jonas that i cant help but support and cheer for. fingers crossed, not long now...

  • @BKKLB
    @BKKLB Před 6 dny

    I think a punctured lung is a real problem for him to be challenging at the tour his year. Maybe I am wrong and maybe he shocks the world but I suspect that he will need to focus on next year. It is a shame because Tadej seems to have upped the levels on his end in anticipation of a showdown with Vingegaard and UAE have stacked their team to compete with Visma... I think even Pogacar would admit that he would rather have a fully fit Vingegaard to compete against.

  • @profesormadyadrjohanudinla327

    Get well soon JV. I hope you can compete viciously for TDF 2024. I pray for your health and recovery. True Champion.

  • @billyred889
    @billyred889 Před měsícem

    I think we will see him back to full form next season. I think he should abandon grand tour plans for this season to aid in his recovery and ensure he’s not dealing with any complications.
    Really doubt he’d even be competitive in the Vuelta this year but I could be wrong (I hope I am).

  • @treyquattro
    @treyquattro Před měsícem

    if anyone has a chance at coming back as strong it has to be Jonas. As you point out, Egan Bernal is making inroads into his previous form after a horror crash

  • @timetrialist
    @timetrialist Před měsícem

    Once you win TdF you are forever a legend period.

  • @ferventheat
    @ferventheat Před měsícem

    With Pogi in dominating form in the Giro, i think for the team's goals and for Jonas it would be wise to pass on the TdF for Jonas and just being ready when he's ready, hopefully for the Vuelta .

  • @stineagerbk9234
    @stineagerbk9234 Před měsícem +1

    Why are you comparing riders with hip/leg/pelvis injuries like Bernal, Froome and Remco (though he has legit come back from that too, as you say) ?!? Why not compare him with Arnaud de Lie's 4JdD crash and recovery last season and all the other riders who have the same type and combination of injuries as Vingegaard? The issues from a lower body injury in cycling are generally not comparable to upper body ones, where the latter normally has much quicker and less problematic recovery rates... Come on guys?

  • @scottsefton294
    @scottsefton294 Před měsícem +2

    If he is 90%, could he start the TDF and get better and better by week 3? Tadej will be coming off the Giro so week 3 of TDF could be rough for him. If Wout is there to help along with Kuss, Van Barle and Jorgensen Jonas could potentially push Tadej, Remco and Primoz. Jonas at 90% is better than nearly the rest of the peloton. I think if he is going to ride the TDF he needs to do the Tour De Suisse as a dry run. If he is not on top form, save him for the Vuelta and send Sepp as the leader of the TDF. I would not rush him though. That gravel stage in the TDF concerns me.

    • @ellisejensen1863
      @ellisejensen1863 Před měsícem

      Uh yeah, that gravel stage will be hell for painful ribs and collarbone😬 But this years TDF course is such a good match for Jonas. Would be a shame for him to miss this year! I so hope he gets ready in time🤞👏

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem

      @@ellisejensen1863 I think the ribs and collarbone will heal fine, I’m concerned that Jonas has not raced on gravel and Tadej is the best in the world at it. I’m concerned that Jonas could crash or puncture on the gravel stage. Until the ribs and collarbone completely heal it will be painful to do any climbing. The video that showed him back on the bike was in Jutland, Denmark . . . Very flat, but windy so that will help him until he can get back to Switzerland and the Canary Islands. You are absolutely correct, except for the gravel stage this year’s TDF route favors Jonas. It would be a shame for him to miss it. Let’s hope we see him on the start line. If he’s at the start line, it means he thinks he has the chops to win it.

    • @stineagerbk9234
      @stineagerbk9234 Před měsícem +1

      ​@scottsefton294 it's a flat Gravel stage on a different terrain and gravel type than Strade. Pogacar is good at it, but he isn't automatically "the best" in the world at it. For this TdF stage look to Paris Tours and Tro Bro winners 😅

  • @akcalder92
    @akcalder92 Před měsícem

    Agreed don’t race unless you are completely ready

  • @Pmor75
    @Pmor75 Před měsícem

    I think that Jonas will be fine, he will be at his best by the Vuelta for sure.

  • @Smaug1
    @Smaug1 Před měsícem

    If he does come back for the TdF, he'll not be in top form, and that's fine.
    Also, he may not be 100% forthcoming about how he's doing. He would rather be under-estimated, I think.
    Let's look at Wout van Aert, who suffered a similar injury this year. He was back on a bike in 3-4 weeks and is coming back strong. I wouldn't think Vingegaard would be different.

  • @yonbon14
    @yonbon14 Před měsícem +3

    I can't believe you tried drawing a comparison between Egan bernal's crash injuries and Jonas....

  • @holmbjerg
    @holmbjerg Před měsícem +1

    Off course. His injuries are not life threatening. They will affect him this season though, and he won't reach the level he otherwise would have had.

  • @noternunstoned
    @noternunstoned Před měsícem +1

    Let's face it, Jonas is a superhuman but his Kryptonite this year besides the injuries is downtime.
    The inability to train and race puts him at a huge disadvantage in this years TDF.
    He could be a good support super soigneur but Vista put all their eggs in one basket when Roglic left.
    I say Jonas (if he partakes in this years tour) wins at least one stage, Lance with his uni-ball and .
    Lemond after being shot with a shotgun came back to win tours ( well at least LeMond)
    Jonas will win again, maybe not this year though.

  • @tomblackwell4924
    @tomblackwell4924 Před měsícem

    Whether he can compete in the TDF, or win it again, that is what remains to be seen. Those kind of injuries, combined with the massive expectations on him, may make him hold off for a while longer than his fans wish.

  • @aidacadena
    @aidacadena Před měsícem +4

    I think that's a VERY dramatic take on Jonas. He's young, healthy and has access to the VERY BEST rehab in the world. He will be back to dominate, no problem.

    • @mtelectrical8068
      @mtelectrical8068 Před měsícem +1

      Dramatic? 12 days in Hospital 😮

    • @aidacadena
      @aidacadena Před měsícem

      @@mtelectrical8068 He has youth in his side. As an old hag of 60, I do believe that his recuperative powers are at peak. He is also very healthy with a team of highly trained specialists (medical and on the Visma team) to make sure he heals well and properly.
      Now it is possible the emotional and mental trauma of the crash may take a bit of a toll on him. Those are things that can't be quantified by anyone but Jonas.
      Having said all that, I do hope that he decides to skip the Tour this year as painful as it will be. I know I would say that to him if I were his mother. Whenever those boys have a nasty spill, my first thought is always "I hope mama didn't see that!"
      Problem is, pro cycling is such a cruel sport in that you always have younger and younger cyclists coming up behind you with what seems like demon like energy ready to steal your thunder!
      They (Jonas, Tadae, et all..) win thier Gran Tours and scarcely have time to enjoy the fruits of the labors before they are cast aside for the new, bright shiny thing!
      Thus poor Jonas may feel like he HAS to return to road whatever the cost.

    • @tobiasdencker853
      @tobiasdencker853 Před měsícem

      And only 33 days without riding he was just in hospital in 13 day because of his name​@@mtelectrical8068

  • @andreasandremyrvold
    @andreasandremyrvold Před měsícem

    Froome had his best years behind him anyway. Bernal and Vingegaard is the same age as Armstrong was when he won his first TdF and had recovered from cancer, at 27, so they both have a lot of career left.

  • @anrakspumante5958
    @anrakspumante5958 Před měsícem

    Pog is much fitter than last year. With this crash there is no way for him to win the TdF this year. I hope for an epic battle next year.

  • @qopiqq3629
    @qopiqq3629 Před měsícem +1

    I'd rather have a fresh Vingegaard in the Vuelta then a rushed tdf where he loses to pogi and cant restore to the fullest

  • @camillelively
    @camillelively Před měsícem +1

    I’m afraid to watch this but I’m gonna do it. Deep breath…..

    • @camillelively
      @camillelively Před měsícem +1

      Ok. Phew. I was wrong. Great commentary as usual!

  • @shaunluckham1418
    @shaunluckham1418 Před měsícem

    In my opinion Tadej is going so hard at the Giro because he expects Jonas to not be at his peak in the TdF due to his injury.

    • @Stufferburg
      @Stufferburg Před měsícem

      Rubbish. Tadej goes hard because that’s what Tadej has always done

  • @douglaspartello7775
    @douglaspartello7775 Před měsícem

    He should do the Tour. But, the team needs to be prepared for not seeing him on the podium. A top 5 might be a good recovery result.

  • @S2Sturges
    @S2Sturges Před měsícem +1

    Jonas didn't have the catastrophic injuries of a Froome or Bernal, he was pretty banged up but no deep skeletal injures. Froome of course has never been anywhere within cooee of his previous form and dominance, and Bernal has shown glimpses but I don't know if he will return to and consistency... Remco showed how it's done with his recovery from his nasty crash and subsequent rainbow bands, as Kelly said with a strong head and weak legs you can still triumph...Look at Wout, his injuries were more severe than Jonas's, we're talking about professional sportsmen, who have that mentality and a bottomless support network of the finest therapists and doctors..
    Will Jonas return to the Tour this year, doubtful but I think eyes will be on Tadej and Primoz on the lead up. Tadej will win the Giro, he has no competition unless you call Thomas huffing and puffing a challenge. Primoz strangely I don't see as a threat, then again we have little to measure him by other than his living atop Mt Teide, if that's where he is...
    Jonas will recover fully, although probably no where near top form, he'll do the Vuelta in August and win that.
    2025 everyone will be a year older and I suspect a real barn burner of a Tour between Tadej and Jonas they both should be at the absolute gheight of their physical abilities then.

    • @Soli11
      @Soli11 Před měsícem +1

      Wout's injuries were not more severe? If anything then Jonas' injuries have been more severe since he had all the same injuries as Wout + lung contusion, punctured lung and broken fingers.

    • @stineagerbk9234
      @stineagerbk9234 Před měsícem

      ​@@Soli11Wout also had pneumothorax (not necessarily meaning a fully punctured lung for either) but it was only discovered a while after the crash... So not much difference. Plus we don't know how many ribs Jonas broke nor what ribs it were for either.

  • @johnevans6399
    @johnevans6399 Před měsícem

    Glad to see you avoided bias, as usual. Great to see him back.

  • @db613
    @db613 Před měsícem

    He will make a full recovery, his prognosis was nowhere near Bernal or Froome. It's only this season may not be on his level.

  • @levislevitas
    @levislevitas Před měsícem +2

    he should be fine

  • @stephencurry8552
    @stephencurry8552 Před 28 dny

    No one "deserves" a win. You either win, or you do not based on reality not favoritism.

  • @rlm4471
    @rlm4471 Před měsícem

    I think he'll be back and strong next year. As long as he didn't permanently damage his lung, I think he'll get back to the same level.

  • @Acura1NSX
    @Acura1NSX Před měsícem

    The most awesome pro rider on planet earth....
    He will take the Tour De France title this year as well!

  • @luizmcmesquita
    @luizmcmesquita Před měsícem

    It's hard to balance between been recovered enough to be competitive in the Tour and the pressure of the team that now has only him as a leader for the Tour. We all want him to be fully recovered and be on the Tour, but what is the best alternative if he's not? Wait until next year, and go to the Vuelta, or go to de Tour anyways, since "anything can happen in the Tour"?

    • @scottsefton294
      @scottsefton294 Před měsícem

      Sepp Kuss and Matteo Jorgensen can step in and compete for a podium finish. Send Wout, Sepp, Utebroeks, Van Barle with Jonas to the Vuelta to win the Red jersey.

  • @greenbay123100
    @greenbay123100 Před měsícem

    its like a soldier going back to war, you just shut down the thinking brain, and do the things you know, jonas is to much talent to not recover from this

  • @dorothyb.
    @dorothyb. Před měsícem

    I won’t believe that he can’t be as good as last year. His injuries were not in the same league as Chris and Egan.
    But visma are having a dreadful season and that might put pressure on them

  • @fyahwerks
    @fyahwerks Před měsícem

    Only time will tell

  • @crispusmahea2135
    @crispusmahea2135 Před měsícem

    It is up to Vingegaard. Let's not speculate.

  • @keithevans7996
    @keithevans7996 Před měsícem

    Froome never came back from his crash. I hope Jonas can.

  • @ExplorinDoranRBrown
    @ExplorinDoranRBrown Před měsícem

    Here’s the problem, if he gets 2nd at the tour to Pogicar , will we blame it on the crash?? Or is it possible that he comes in 100% and we get a close battle that seems fair, or rather one in which both are 100%.
    Last year Pogicar had the injury that messed up his preparation. I imagine Pogacar wins this year and we don’t get a battle of them 100 % until 2025

  • @gtkona1608
    @gtkona1608 Před měsícem

    Crushing the field on the climbs. Sounds familiar. Let me think.............

  • @timliscum2861
    @timliscum2861 Před měsícem

    You may have to only look back to Andy Schleck, Egan Bernal and Chris Froome for your answer... lets hope its not the case with JV.. 7 weeks to get ready

    • @Knofris
      @Knofris Před měsícem +2

      Jonas wasn’t injured as heavily

    • @stineagerbk9234
      @stineagerbk9234 Před měsícem

      No lower body injuries in Vingegaard this time. And he came back just fine from that broken femur in 2017

  • @robslater5528
    @robslater5528 Před měsícem

    I like Vinegegaard, but no rah, rah from me. He was pounded in that crash. There will be a lot of pre$$ure on him to do the Tour, but I think, long term, it would be a mistake to take it on this year. Let the recovery be gradual, and, once he's clearly healed, do a late season race program that graduates in intensity. Continue through normal winter training, then come back in full form next season. Stage racing needs him to be competitive with Pogačar!

  • @markwatson8051
    @markwatson8051 Před 26 dny

    No, Jonas should rest and recover until next year. Period.

  • @user-tg2iq5wd6i
    @user-tg2iq5wd6i Před měsícem

    Would love to see him here, but he also hast to get better not take chances on his health