This man is preaching biblical truth. Believers will definitely go through tribulation. Believe it or not, the antichrist is warming up momentarily to come on board. So many believers will take the mark because of their unbelief..Heb. 3v16-19, 2Thess 2vs 3-4, Matt.24vs29-31. Get prepared.
The need to grow our own food, provide our own water and energy (via solar) to counter the impending world crises (famine etc) does not obliterate the prophecies that the church will be raptured. 1 Thess 4:15-18 will be fulfilled literally, not metaphorically at some point in the future, whether we like it or not.😊
1st thess ch 4 vs 15 talks about the taking away of the saint which is intepreted as yhe rapture. No one is arguing that. But there is one problem with your interpretation, you assumr it's before the tribulation while the man of God is saying it's after the tribulation. You can read Rev. Ch 20 vs 1 to 6. Pay attention to vs 5 which stated clearly that this is the first RESURRECTION
@@johnsonabiaeme9018 The rapture will take place before the great Tribulation, not after. The Church will NOT be here to witness the great Tribulation except the careless christians who will sadly be left behind. Just pray you won't be here during the Tribulation period. Asking Christians to prepare for the Tribulation makes no sense. What we are to prepare for is the Rapture, since we have no business whatsoever with the Great Tribulation. Shalom!
It's prophecy, and it's going to take place. Jesus already said it. Either you dye for Christ or you accept the mark. They will come for even your food....
This is the scarce truth, the WORD! Just read Matt 24 and follow chronologically; in the last days, the church shall face tribulation before Christ comes. In the same chapter, Christ's coming is in the latter part. Please study the Bible with open heart to the Spirit. Watch America in few years. AntiChrist is here!
listen to pastors who will open the bible with you for study. not those who come narating their personal interpretation to you. talking for 10mins without reading scripture
Please, don't cut messages and come and post it asking whether it's controversial or not. Start from the very beginning and get the full message. I was part of this service and Dr David taught Biblical truth as he always does. Why the comparison
How i wish these bloggers can concentrate on spreading the gospel instead of focusing on likes and subscription to feed their bellies, Dr Ogbuel is teaching something very serious here to help the church and you are comparing him with Abel Damina on two different teachings that have nothing in common mcm😢
If You understand what I do or the inspiration behind my Channel, you won't speak in these manner. Nonetheless, it's has been God's blessing all the way, and recently God reminded me of an assignment I agreed to embark on. If you're waiting for Judgements in negative light, you will end up seeing me blossom. Wearn yourself off Hero worship, by far I am different from them all, I hope you'll see it someday. Peace.
Pre-tribulation rapture and post-tribulation rapture are two standpoint the church upholds. Much of evangelical Christianity favours the first. Personally I don't argue any but denominationally pitch my tent with the first. Remember there are very scriptural reasons to believe both.
Both teachings have nothing in common. It's either you didn't properly comprehend what Rev Dr David Ogbueli was teaching or you just chose to deliberately muddle things up with your caption and image go generate traffic Either ways let's be very careful, some bloggers are causing a whole lot of problems to the body
You see I admire these theological preachers and how they struggle to convince believers. Unfortunately, if they had out of body experience with our Lord Jesus Christ, they'll change their preaching. Is it difficult to see our spirit come out of our body to have experience of hidden things? Don't they see angels? Don't they have visions? My brother was an occult master and he traveled in space for meetings. He used the cemetery as portal for celestial meetings. I encountered him. Heaven is real so is hell. Both have souls in accordance with deeds and works.
I have not finished watching it but what i heard up to 2: 25 is contrary to the bible 1 thessalonians 4:13-17. The is rapture the bible refered to it as the caught up of saint that are alive to the cloud when Christ appears. For him to say that rapture is a lie, is falsehood in itself and it's a RED FLAG FOR ME. I will watch it to the end and drop another comment if what his saying is in another context
The more I study the book of revelation and Jesus's teachings about the last days, the more I realize christians has been deceived about the chronology of events culminating into the end of time, there's no where in scripture where Jesus said we would be raptured before the coming of Jesus. From John's account in the book of revelation, Jesus only appeared in chapter 19 where only those that didn't receive the mark were caught up with him in the sky and that was only after the great tribulation... It is TRIBULATION before RAPTURE and NOT the other way round
@@allaboutlifewithniyi6641wrong teaching. We have been manipulated for years. It is tribulation before rapture. Read Matthew 24. Immediately after tribulation there appear a sign of Son of man
@@allaboutlifewithniyi6641 Go and study your bible again, this time ask the holy spirit to help you, but to respond to you on this, study Matthew 24:3- 31 and see for yourself. However, I want you to pay close attention to verse 22. It says " And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: BUT FOR THE ELECT'S SAKE THOSE DAYS SHALL BE SHORTENED. MY question is this: if RAPTURE comes before THE GREAT TRIBULATIONS, then what will the elect be doing on earth that God will have to shorten the time because of them?
@@akorgodwin7882honestly some of us have believed wrongly for a very long time that is why it's hard to believe that rapture will happen in-between the great tribulation. Is it not better and easier to say that rapture will happen before the great tribulation? Who like to suffer? Unfortunately rapture will happen in-between the great tribulation.
Upto 2:53, I DISAGREE. still according to 1 thessalonians 4:13-17. Those that are asleep in the lord will rise first, then saint who are alive will be caught up to the cloud to meet him. Therefore, it is false to say saint that are alive when Christ appears will experience will through the suffering. I see that he trying to teach people who will not make rapture how to survive the 7 years of antichrist.
Upto 7:00, I think the teaching is more relevant now on production, cutting cost, and reducing or eliminating wastage than linking to end time saying rapture is a lie. I think the danger of end time is most people who want to know God don't read or know what the bible says therefore, they're fed with shit that are not in the bible
Wow! need to delve into scripture. U know the understanding of God's people the Jews about messiah before Jesus was manifested was quite a different expectation from the manifestation of the Christ but they had the scriptures. I am afraid we might be caught in the same situation if we do not carefully study the scriptures in the light of revelation knowledge.
He is very correct. The church will be here during the great tribulation. There are so many evidences and scripture that says so and there is no single scripture that says that the church will be raptured before the great tribulation. Go and search the scriptures
What's great tribulation, and what's tribulation or persecution, can you differentiate the two?because it's only then you can be able to know that believer will not go through great tribulation.
But how many Nigerian Christians people or lets just sa ly Nigerian Christians alone(lets not even mention other Christians for other rs world countries can afford solar or such land for agriculture 😢..soo
The saint can stop the tribulation if they will. That was a prophecy of evil to come and it is strange why Christians are rejoicing and accepting it. God is not behind it and He does not want any to perish, so if we understand this, we can stop any tribulation.
This is so wrong. It is prophesied we can't stop it. Could Noah stop the flood? Could Joseph stop the famine? You can only prepare for it. God does not love suffering but he allows it because we are in a wicked world and it's not going to last forever it's only a short while compared to an eternity of Joy
There's a difference between the great tribulation and tribulation which is persecution, believers will not go through great tribulation, Many don't know what makes it great tribulation, it's not just the persecution from antichrist, rather it's a time God will unlish his wrath on the people of this world, So as usual He cannot pour his wrath on his children, there must be a separation, you have biblical partten to that, 1,before the flood Noah was separated, 2,before the fire Lot was separated, in the same way before the great tribulation the saints will be separated by rapture.
@@gillesadjake8349 it has not started... What do you think tribulation is? Why do you think it's something out of a movie scene? The scriptures say we will be here
Matthew 24:27-31 [27]For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [28]For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. [29]Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [30]And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. [31]And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Oga, keep emotions down an understand, I said i believe what he said. If you listen well you will understand my approach was to say this His view is unpopular, will many accept it, though I have known this Teachings before, I really wish you listened well🙏
Falsehood is subtle. As a Christian be careful before you are drawn in and don’t realise you’ve lost it. How in heaven’s name do you compare Dr David and Damina? Your comparison places Damina and Dr David in the same category. If you can’t see it, then there’s a problem somewhere. If you knew what it’d do but did it anyway, that’s another problem because your subtle play for likes and MONEY.. will lead the gullible to a fall and their blood will be on your hands. Matt18:6-14
So how does this teaching of Dr. David link to to Abel Damina trash? It u just want people to watch your video and grow ur CZcams? Theres nothing u guys wont do for the sake of money.
Many of these so-called bloggers are not truly born again. To what end is this caption now? How is what he is saying controversial? Or you just want to cause unnecessary friction in the Body?
I understand your point. Read through the comments, I also will ask you listen to my commentary and understand why I use the caption try to understand before you condemns
This teaching is nothing compared to what Dr. Abel teaches. It's not heretic just that he's prescribing physical ways to avoid the pressure of accepting the mark. It's actually sound though not sounding spiritual 😊
These two teachers have their own purpose and their different angles of teaching. It's unwise for you to make comparison based on preachers talking about different subjects. I think you need to get rid of ungodly prejudice. God bless you!!!
It is funny how you boldly claim that Dr Damina teaches heresy but have so far not submitted any argument to point to the alluded heretic teachings. The problem with many is that rather than pick their bible and double check what Dr teaches, they rather jump shouting heresy. And this, one can conclude, it driven by their laziness towards the study of scriptures and sitting down to be taught. On the Pastor’s teaching, the least said the better.
@@korbeking424 my dear, you're attached heresy to Dr. Abel cos in my submission I didn't say so but I only said that what Pst. Ogbueli said itsnt heresy. Only Dr. Abel's issues I have responded on many scriptures he's twisted severary and even willing to engage him in his church on some of his heretic teachings using the scriptures because he has some. Among my watch ward scriptures is 2Tim. 2:15
The heresy here is that there is no rapture. That I don't agree with anyway. The rapture of the saints is an established Bible doctrine. Trivialising sacred doctrines is not right.
Dear, once you take the mark, it means you have denounce that Jesus is no longer your Lord, and you will loose your salvation, please check your Bible, and don't be decieved. Watch.
You obviously have an agenda and it's not of God. How do you compare both preachers on two different lines of thought. Someone is preaching the gospel without distorting the Bible and the other is distorting Scriptures and you chose to compare both. You sure need deliverance and this shows you don't read your Scriptures
Hmm! Great thanks for your advice and no thanks. 'You need Deliverance' I really doubt if you even understand what that means by scriptures. If You are angry 'I am comparing two different' teachers of the Word, and your interpretation is to lay insult and suggest deliverance, I think probably you should re-check your heart. Nonetheless everyone is welcome including those who are quick to Judge me.
This Abel Damina is allowing satan to use him! How did he misinterpret that very easy bible verse???? Sitting in heavenly places in Christ is an inheritance that we will come to inherit when we make it to heaven. It's that simple.
His position/belief in the Post-Tribulation Rapture is Scriptural. Though not widely accepted. In 2 Thess 2:1-4 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. NIV. There 2 things that apostle Paul highlighted here that would precede the coming of the Lord -The great falling away/rebellion and the revelation of the man of lawlessness(antichrist). Some years back when I decided to study this subject, I discovered that many of those who believe in Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory only based their belief on the research/commentary notes found in Dake Annotated Reference Bible.
What did you stop at verse 4. Read verses 6 and 7 2Th 2:6-7 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way. Do you know who is he talking about there ? In case you don't know, he is talking about THE CHURCH. Darkness can never prevail where Light (Church) is
There is a need to understand the difference between Rapture and the Second Coming of Christ: Rapture: 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, Matthew 24:20-41 2nd Coming: Acts 1:11, 2Thessalonians 2: 1-4, Zechariah 14. God bless...
In support of post tribulation. 1st thess ch 4 vs 15 talks about the taking away of the saint which is intepreted as yhe rapture. No one is arguing that. But there is one problem with the interpretation the rapture will come first, people assume it's before the tribulation while the man of God is saying it's after the tribulation. You can read Rev. Ch 20 vs 1 to 6. Pay attention to vs 5 which stated clearly that this is the first RESURRECTION
When I read the bible thoroughly I also discovered the rapture was for the 144,000… the rest of the believers alive then will have to go through the tribulation.
The 144000 is not a literal number sir. It is symbolic of the body of Christ even now Second, the rapture is a construct of John Nelson Darby and McGregor Margaret in 1820-1830. Rapture is a complete lie. It happens to absolutely no one
This man is preaching biblical truth. Believers will definitely go through tribulation. Believe it or not, the antichrist is warming up momentarily to come on board. So many believers will take the mark because of their unbelief..Heb. 3v16-19, 2Thess 2vs 3-4, Matt.24vs29-31. Get prepared.
Very true sir
Lots of believers don't know this, those who have heard it yet refuse to accept it
May the lord help his church
The antichrist is not a person, it's a belief system
I agree with you on this. Some people don't want to hear the truth
The believes will not go through great tribulation, there's different between tribulation and great tribulation.
The great tribulation is just for the last 3 and half years. The remnant of the church will be on the earth.
In the last days,knowledge would increase,distortions of the scripture would also increase.Saints be careful.
The need to grow our own food, provide our own water and energy (via solar) to counter the impending world crises (famine etc) does not obliterate the prophecies that the church will be raptured. 1 Thess 4:15-18 will be fulfilled literally, not metaphorically at some point in the future, whether we like it or not.😊
True my brother
God bless you Sir!!!!!!
1st thess ch 4 vs 15 talks about the taking away of the saint which is intepreted as yhe rapture. No one is arguing that. But there is one problem with your interpretation, you assumr it's before the tribulation while the man of God is saying it's after the tribulation.
You can read Rev. Ch 20 vs 1 to 6.
Pay attention to vs 5 which stated clearly that this is the first RESURRECTION
@@johnsonabiaeme9018 The rapture will take place before the great Tribulation, not after. The Church will NOT be here to witness the great Tribulation except the careless christians who will sadly be left behind. Just pray you won't be here during the Tribulation period. Asking Christians to prepare for the Tribulation makes no sense. What we are to prepare for is the Rapture, since we have no business whatsoever with the Great Tribulation. Shalom!
God bless you.
On what basis are you comparing this two messages, are you dull of hearing??
I am rapturable because i am sealed by the holy spirit not by my power but by the holy spirit
I am in Christ Jesus there is nothing to fear sir Jesus is sustainer of the life we have,
It's prophecy, and it's going to take place. Jesus already said it. Either you dye for Christ or you accept the mark. They will come for even your food....
Recently I am beginning to like this man
This is the scarce truth, the WORD! Just read Matt 24 and follow chronologically; in the last days, the church shall face tribulation before Christ comes. In the same chapter, Christ's coming is in the latter part. Please study the Bible with open heart to the Spirit. Watch America in few years. AntiChrist is here!
I always get edified listening to David Ogbueli. Daminas messages makes you ordinary, you can never consectate listening to Damina
Not fair 😂😆
listen to pastors who will open the bible with you for study. not those who come narating their personal interpretation to you. talking for 10mins without reading scripture
If you're not a Bible study student you must hate Dr Damina or you just hate him naturally. Dr Damina is a strong character
Please, don't cut messages and come and post it asking whether it's controversial or not. Start from the very beginning and get the full message. I was part of this service and Dr David taught Biblical truth as he always does.
Why the comparison
Bloggers has become the problem of the Church. Jamming heads together and causing bad Belle. May God Judge all of them starting from this blogger.
I SAY A BIG AMEN..
How i wish these bloggers can concentrate on spreading the gospel instead of focusing on likes and subscription to feed their bellies, Dr Ogbuel is teaching something very serious here to help the church and you are comparing him with Abel Damina on two different teachings that have nothing in common mcm😢
If You understand what I do or the inspiration behind my Channel, you won't speak in these manner.
Nonetheless, it's has been God's blessing all the way, and recently God reminded me of an assignment I agreed to embark on. If you're waiting for Judgements in negative light, you will end up seeing me blossom.
Wearn yourself off Hero worship, by far I am different from them all, I hope you'll see it someday.
Peace.
Mhmmm !
Pre-tribulation rapture and post-tribulation rapture are two standpoint the church upholds. Much of evangelical Christianity favours the first. Personally I don't argue any but denominationally pitch my tent with the first. Remember there are very scriptural reasons to believe both.
Both teachings have nothing in common.
It's either you didn't properly comprehend what Rev Dr David Ogbueli was teaching or you just chose to deliberately muddle things up with your caption and image go generate traffic
Either ways let's be very careful, some bloggers are causing a whole lot of problems to the body
Please at least listen well before you Comment if you Must comment.
You see I admire these theological preachers and how they struggle to convince believers. Unfortunately, if they had out of body experience with our Lord Jesus Christ, they'll change their preaching. Is it difficult to see our spirit come out of our body to have experience of hidden things? Don't they see angels? Don't they have visions? My brother was an occult master and he traveled in space for meetings. He used the cemetery as portal for celestial meetings. I encountered him. Heaven is real so is hell. Both have souls in accordance with deeds and works.
I have not finished watching it but what i heard up to 2: 25 is contrary to the bible 1 thessalonians 4:13-17. The is rapture the bible refered to it as the caught up of saint that are alive to the cloud when Christ appears.
For him to say that rapture is a lie, is falsehood in itself and it's a RED FLAG FOR ME.
I will watch it to the end and drop another comment if what his saying is in another context
It's not English verbage, that caught up in the cloud, isn't what you are thinking
He didn't say it's a lie though. He is saying the rapture comes later. You may need to listen the whole message.
True, he never said that rapture is a lie. Rapture will happen in-between the great tribulation. Listen to the full message@@IhuomaKenOhiorenoya
Listen before you speak
The more I study the book of revelation and Jesus's teachings about the last days, the more I realize christians has been deceived about the chronology of events culminating into the end of time, there's no where in scripture where Jesus said we would be raptured before the coming of Jesus.
From John's account in the book of revelation, Jesus only appeared in chapter 19 where only those that didn't receive the mark were caught up with him in the sky and that was only after the great tribulation...
It is TRIBULATION before RAPTURE and NOT the other way round
It's rapture first. By chapter for our revelation, the church has been rapture. Study again
@@allaboutlifewithniyi6641wrong teaching. We have been manipulated for years. It is tribulation before rapture. Read Matthew 24. Immediately after tribulation there appear a sign of Son of man
@@allaboutlifewithniyi6641 Go and study your bible again, this time ask the holy spirit to help you, but to respond to you on this, study Matthew 24:3- 31 and see for yourself. However, I want you to pay close attention to verse 22. It says " And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: BUT FOR THE ELECT'S SAKE THOSE DAYS SHALL BE SHORTENED.
MY question is this: if RAPTURE comes before THE GREAT TRIBULATIONS, then what will the elect be doing on earth that God will have to shorten the time because of them?
@@akorgodwin7882honestly some of us have believed wrongly for a very long time that is why it's hard to believe that rapture will happen in-between the great tribulation.
Is it not better and easier to say that rapture will happen before the great tribulation? Who like to suffer? Unfortunately rapture will happen in-between the great tribulation.
Upto 2:53, I DISAGREE. still according to 1 thessalonians 4:13-17. Those that are asleep in the lord will rise first, then saint who are alive will be caught up to the cloud to meet him.
Therefore, it is false to say saint that are alive when Christ appears will experience will through the suffering. I see that he trying to teach people who will not make rapture how to survive the 7 years of antichrist.
Upto 7:00, I think the teaching is more relevant now on production, cutting cost, and reducing or eliminating wastage than linking to end time saying rapture is a lie.
I think the danger of end time is most people who want to know God don't read or know what the bible says therefore, they're fed with shit that are not in the bible
Are these strategies practical in developed countries ? Or just develooing countries
Wow! need to delve into scripture. U know the understanding of God's people the Jews about messiah before Jesus was manifested was quite a different expectation from the manifestation of the Christ but they had the scriptures. I am afraid we might be caught in the same situation if we do not carefully study the scriptures in the light of revelation knowledge.
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He is very correct. The church will be here during the great tribulation. There are so many evidences and scripture that says so and there is no single scripture that says that the church will be raptured before the great tribulation. Go and search the scriptures
What's great tribulation, and what's tribulation or persecution, can you differentiate the two?because it's only then you can be able to know that believer will not go through great tribulation.
Where can I get that full sermon from pastor David
How many people have the land to grow food ?
you can always practice homesteading. Just sit down and ponder over it. It will shock you the ideas that will come.
Keep coming up with this kind of excuse until antichrist catches up with you unprepared
But how many Nigerian Christians people or lets just sa ly Nigerian Christians alone(lets not even mention other Christians for other rs world countries can afford solar or such land for agriculture 😢..soo
The saint can stop the tribulation if they will. That was a prophecy of evil to come and it is strange why Christians are rejoicing and accepting it. God is not behind it and He does not want any to perish, so if we understand this, we can stop any tribulation.
This is so wrong. It is prophesied we can't stop it. Could Noah stop the flood? Could Joseph stop the famine? You can only prepare for it.
God does not love suffering but he allows it because we are in a wicked world and it's not going to last forever it's only a short while compared to an eternity of Joy
I don't blame you for not understanding. It's a deep truth
Can you share, using the scriptures as a reference, how believers can stop the tribulation?
Be careful about what you say about a true man of God.
So what's your point, what's there to criticize?
If you know what the mark of the beast was referring to you would never listen to this nonsense.
What is it?
There's a difference between the great tribulation and tribulation which is persecution, believers will not go through great tribulation,
Many don't know what makes it great tribulation, it's not just the persecution from antichrist, rather it's a time God will unlish his wrath on the people of this world,
So as usual He cannot pour his wrath on his children, there must be a separation, you have biblical partten to that,
1,before the flood Noah was separated, 2,before the fire Lot was separated, in the same way before the great tribulation the saints will be separated by rapture.
They are not saying the same thing
A borehole can cause an earthquake!!!
The Church can never pass through the tribulation. Never
Keep joking... The Christians in northern Nigeria, what do you think is going on there?
@@ucheagbai290 so for you the 7 years of Tribulation spoken by the bible have started. Na waoo
@@gillesadjake8349 it has not started...
What do you think tribulation is?
Why do you think it's something out of a movie scene?
The scriptures say we will be here
Matthew 24:27-31
[27]For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[28]For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
[29]Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
[30]And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
[31]And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
@@ucheagbai290 which scriptures ?
Oga Dr David ogbueli is giving foresight and you are here making content with it by comparing He with Dr Damina.i just say eyahhhh to you
Oga, keep emotions down an understand, I said i believe what he said.
If you listen well you will understand my approach was to say this His view is unpopular, will many accept it, though I have known this Teachings before, I really wish you listened well🙏
@@PortalsMediaNetwork my point is there was no reason for comparing both of them
No reason at all
Falsehood is subtle.
As a Christian be careful before you are drawn in and don’t realise you’ve lost it.
How in heaven’s name do you compare Dr David and Damina?
Your comparison places Damina and Dr David in the same category. If you can’t see it, then there’s a problem somewhere.
If you knew what it’d do but did it anyway, that’s another problem because your subtle play for likes and MONEY.. will lead the gullible to a fall and their blood will be on your hands.
Matt18:6-14
❤whats the title
He never said rapture is false, he is saying that you with see tribulations,
So how does this teaching of Dr. David link to to Abel Damina trash? It u just want people to watch your video and grow ur CZcams? Theres nothing u guys wont do for the sake of money.
Many of these so-called bloggers are not truly born again. To what end is this caption now? How is what he is saying controversial? Or you just want to cause unnecessary friction in the Body?
I understand your point.
Read through the comments, I also will ask you listen to my commentary and understand why I use the caption try to understand before you condemns
This teaching is nothing compared to what Dr. Abel teaches. It's not heretic just that he's prescribing physical ways to avoid the pressure of accepting the mark. It's actually sound though not sounding spiritual 😊
These two teachers have their own purpose and their different angles of teaching. It's unwise for you to make comparison based on preachers talking about different subjects. I think you need to get rid of ungodly prejudice. God bless you!!!
It is funny how you boldly claim that Dr Damina teaches heresy but have so far not submitted any argument to point to the alluded heretic teachings.
The problem with many is that rather than pick their bible and double check what Dr teaches, they rather jump shouting heresy. And this, one can conclude, it driven by their laziness towards the study of scriptures and sitting down to be taught.
On the Pastor’s teaching, the least said the better.
@@korbeking424 my dear, you're attached heresy to Dr. Abel cos in my submission I didn't say so but I only said that what Pst. Ogbueli said itsnt heresy. Only Dr. Abel's issues I have responded on many scriptures he's twisted severary and even willing to engage him in his church on some of his heretic teachings using the scriptures because he has some. Among my watch ward scriptures is 2Tim. 2:15
The heresy here is that there is no rapture.
That I don't agree with anyway. The rapture of the saints is an established Bible doctrine.
Trivialising sacred doctrines is not right.
You are reading from where, at least damina is reading from bible
The only thing I disagree is the duration of tribulations. Everything else is valid
we will take the mark and preach the gospel...
Great
Dear, once you take the mark, it means you have denounce that Jesus is no longer your Lord, and you will loose your salvation,
please check your Bible, and don't be decieved. Watch.
You can't serve two masters at a time
@@ChinwezeEbuka I can't lose my salvation... eternal life is eternal...
Everlasting life is everlasting... Once saved is forever saved
So, what are you going to be preaching after gotten yourself initiated via the mark?
Or do you think it's just a mere mark?
You obviously have an agenda and it's not of God. How do you compare both preachers on two different lines of thought. Someone is preaching the gospel without distorting the Bible and the other is distorting Scriptures and you chose to compare both. You sure need deliverance and this shows you don't read your Scriptures
Hmm!
Great thanks for your advice and no thanks.
'You need Deliverance' I really doubt if you even understand what that means by scriptures.
If You are angry 'I am comparing two different' teachers of the Word, and your interpretation is to lay insult and suggest deliverance, I think probably you should re-check your heart.
Nonetheless everyone is welcome including those who are quick to Judge me.
If u cant counter interprete pls dont mention the word heressy
Oga be careful with content you create because you want to drive traffic, don't ever bring pastor David Ogbueli and Abel again
Ogbueli keeper, Atleast Watch first before you Comment!
This Abel Damina is allowing satan to use him! How did he misinterpret that very easy bible verse???? Sitting in heavenly places in Christ is an inheritance that we will come to inherit when we make it to heaven. It's that simple.
Read very well.
Heavenly places is a spiritual position. The position of being right with God.
His position/belief in the Post-Tribulation Rapture is Scriptural. Though not widely accepted.
In 2 Thess 2:1-4
Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
NIV. There 2 things that apostle Paul highlighted here that would precede the coming of the Lord -The great falling away/rebellion and the revelation of the man of lawlessness(antichrist). Some years back when I decided to study this subject, I discovered that many of those who believe in Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory only based their belief on the research/commentary notes found in Dake Annotated Reference Bible.
What did you stop at verse 4. Read verses 6 and 7
2Th 2:6-7 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.
Do you know who is he talking about there ? In case you don't know, he is talking about THE CHURCH. Darkness can never prevail where Light (Church) is
There is a need to understand the difference between Rapture and the Second Coming of Christ:
Rapture: 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, Matthew 24:20-41
2nd Coming: Acts 1:11, 2Thessalonians 2: 1-4, Zechariah 14.
God bless...
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Dake bible study writer are pre-tribulation incline. What do you expect?
In support of post tribulation.
1st thess ch 4 vs 15 talks about the taking away of the saint which is intepreted as yhe rapture. No one is arguing that. But there is one problem with the interpretation the rapture will come first, people assume it's before the tribulation while the man of God is saying it's after the tribulation.
You can read Rev. Ch 20 vs 1 to 6.
Pay attention to vs 5 which stated clearly that this is the first RESURRECTION
When I read the bible thoroughly I also discovered the rapture was for the 144,000… the rest of the believers alive then will have to go through the tribulation.
The 144000 is not a literal number sir. It is symbolic of the body of Christ even now
Second, the rapture is a construct of John Nelson Darby and McGregor Margaret in 1820-1830.
Rapture is a complete lie.
It happens to absolutely no one