AFI Live @ Hard Rock Cafe 2003 FULL CONCERT

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  • AFI - Live at Hard Rock Cafe 2003 FULL CONCERT
    00:40 - Miseria Cantare - The Beginning
    3:23 - The Leaving Song Pt. 2
    07:52 - Silver And Cold
    11:42 - The Days Of The Phoenix
    16:48 - Girls Not Grey
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  • @naomiCENSOREDv2
    @naomiCENSOREDv2 Před 10 lety +189

    When I was an awkward and unhappy 14-year-old and just starting to explore AFI and their unfamiliar but mesmerizing music, I used to go to the library across the street from my school specifically to use their computers to find clips and pictures from this show. I had a really tough time as a teen, but finding and loving AFI was one of the few things that kept me believing in art and in life. I wish I could have experienced this show live.

    • @PhoenixAndTheRaven
      @PhoenixAndTheRaven Před rokem +3

      If you were going to pick one show to time travel back to see, this is an excellent choice. I've been obsessed with this show for 20 years. I now go back and watch it with my kids

    • @tschimmer
      @tschimmer Před rokem +1

      I was there in Florida. My gf surprised me with tickets. It was mental! So much energy in the air you could cut it with a knife

    • @lavenderandgold8588
      @lavenderandgold8588 Před rokem +1

      I saw AFI in 2006 during their December underground era and it was so amazing. Their energy live is unmatched.

    • @anarkcorp
      @anarkcorp Před 10 měsíci

      incredible description of the atmospheric ambience was there. Such fantastic words !

    • @user-pm3qj7kj4w
      @user-pm3qj7kj4w Před 5 měsíci +1

      So many of us had exactly the same experience. This is a band that helped many of us through life

  • @DozenDeadRoses
    @DozenDeadRoses Před rokem +13

    No phones in everybody's hands
    Is the greatest thing ever
    I hate today

    • @ManthaRai90
      @ManthaRai90 Před 3 měsíci

      Except ours... Lol😂

    • @MrSuperdelf
      @MrSuperdelf Před měsícem

      The only thing to do was watch the band that's actually in front of you, with no temptation to start filming or taking pictures or posting it on social media instantly.

  • @kingkrysen
    @kingkrysen Před 10 měsíci +16

    Discovered this band back last year January 2022 and they have played a big role in my life at 24

    • @joedivision7148
      @joedivision7148 Před 8 měsíci +3

      That's awesome. There's a lot of material to find.

    • @aaroncampos3798
      @aaroncampos3798 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I envy you. You get to listen to all their music for the first time. My favorite is The Art of Drowning

    • @islamicsalami7208
      @islamicsalami7208 Před měsícem

      ​@@aaroncampos3798 I've liked this band since 2000. They still put out great music. Alot different then it used to be but still good in a different way

    • @yosefvargasx
      @yosefvargasx Před 2 dny

      I discovered this band in 2003 and theyve played a big role in my life at 40

  • @JamesFrederickstech
    @JamesFrederickstech Před rokem +49

    This is what peak performance looks like. Everyone at the top of their game just destroying this show live. One of my favorite albums of all time every song is literally a gem.

  • @zacharylane2309
    @zacharylane2309 Před 9 lety +79

    This is just pure gold. Wish Davey still sounded like this.

    • @christianperez7846
      @christianperez7846 Před měsícem

      I said the same when I saw it. I didn’t steal it from you 😂

  • @LVAngelradio
    @LVAngelradio Před 2 lety +6

    I feel so cheated that I didn't get to see him flip into the crowd!! 💔

  • @apersonontheinternet424
    @apersonontheinternet424 Před 10 lety +50

    Epic performance. I especially love Miseria Cantare here, it gives me chills to see Davey commanding them to sing, and they do, with all their hearts. Fantastic.

    • @muranska
      @muranska Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, and him shouting in the end ❤

  • @liberispuritatem
    @liberispuritatem Před 5 lety +29

    DAMN, he had a perfect combination of vocal power AND QUALITY.

  • @beetlejews
    @beetlejews Před rokem +9

    Amazing, Sing the Sorrow is the greatest album ever released

  • @EdwardGutierrez90
    @EdwardGutierrez90 Před 8 lety +17

    thats how you start a show!! that scream was superb!!

  • @muranska
    @muranska Před 2 lety +7

    I was 13 when I saw it for the first time. Rebel time at school and a lot emotions to deal with. Shouting together with Davey was the cure. I'm 32 now and still feel the power

  • @thomasdonaldson3523
    @thomasdonaldson3523 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Was such a cool time to be a teenager

  • @raulitommm4137
    @raulitommm4137 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Es un buen grupazo ***afi*** es lo mejor con su gran voz ya son una leyenda tu rocker, s "" "escoriza" "" soy su fans #1yeeaa

  • @cjwilliams1124
    @cjwilliams1124 Před 6 lety +22

    It all started when a friend left a copy of Sing The Sorrow at my band's practice spot. Now, I didn't listen to it right away until later that week I heard Girls Not Grey on the local Pop Station and thought "WTF this sounds like Davey singing... and that guitar has to be Jade... plus gang vocals... This HAS TO BE AFI. I had to ask myself if that CD at my practice spot was really getting AFI pop airplay. Lo and behold the record did just that . I loved AFI as a punk with "Answer That" etc, but never knew they turned into THIS GREAT of a band.
    2002/2003 was a magic fucking time. AFI had a string of great albums , Saves the Day's "In Reverie" was released and changed my life as a guitarist, Nada Surf released Inside of Love while they and Interpol's Antics all had airplay on MTV2 and Fuse. All in that short but amazing span of time.
    All of it made my love for music deeper and gave me drive to improve and strive to be the musician I became. Never realized how much I took from Jade til watching live stuff recently. He and Dave Soloway from STD were the Punk Rock answer to Johnny Marr and it opened my eyes to what can be done as a guitarist.
    Anyway, this performance is the tits and I remember recording it to VHS (that's all I had as a 16yo poor kid) and every damn time I see Davey on top of the MTV Logo its surreal. They made it HUGE for a few years with their own style, no pandering just passion and honesty in songwriting (not to mention GREAT production). If only the PopPunkEmo/DreamySoundscape genre stuck around for longer before getting squashed by shit like Cute is What We Aim For and bands that just wanted to be cheeky and get chicks. Whatever. This performance is so important to me as a musician I just wanted to rant. Hunter and Adam are such an underrated Rhythm Section, Jade is a trail-blazer and Davey had the best screams of his career around this time. Vocally, he just had another gear that blew my mind. #AFI4Life

    • @jebadiahfyefye8994
      @jebadiahfyefye8994 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for this. AFI changed my life. Davey is my hero. Been a fan for 22 years now.

  • @kindread1145
    @kindread1145 Před rokem +4

    I'll never forget the first time I saw this concert very late at night feeling alone. They were so captivating. Davey was fire and flames here. Long live AFI. The first step to the last step of my musical genre journey.

  • @trepabeard
    @trepabeard Před 10 lety +13

    I want Davey's hair from this era so bad. HAHA.

  • @askesis
    @askesis Před 10 lety +21

    Amazing that this is 10 years old, and I still consider it their "newer stuff".

    • @kyucklebeans
      @kyucklebeans Před 2 lety +6

      18 years old now!

    • @charliesmash
      @charliesmash Před rokem +2

      19 years going on 20!

    • @bricecarter4d4
      @bricecarter4d4 Před rokem

      Amazing they just did a 20 year anniversary of it Start to Finish. 1st and last time. Straight through

    • @cnacma
      @cnacma Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@bricecarter4d4sad though cause Davey sings in such a weird way now. Like he’s ashamed of his natural voice tone. Nothing like the pure raw amazing energy of this concert

    • @bricecarter4d4
      @bricecarter4d4 Před 11 měsíci

      @cnacma davey has had a lot of vocal cord and throat issues. That is behind the voice change. Some singers have had issues like this like steven tyler.

  • @unspoken13
    @unspoken13 Před 11 lety +37

    I wish MTV would release the full concert.. they played around 17 songs that night, a lot from Art of Drowning.. Heck the second song they went right into (which they cut off) was Lost Souls..
    still this is a great video.

    • @davidu8688
      @davidu8688 Před 6 lety +2

      Nerdy Cousin & Homeless Joe I knew they didn't play it all...

    • @madrockxvx
      @madrockxvx Před rokem +3

      The full thing (audio only, minus Perfect Fit) is out there, I shared it on the old AFI News HQ site sometime around 2012. Took quite some work... The mixes were all out of order with some overlap, so stitching it back together took a day or two. Totally worth it though!

  • @zacariasfasil6055
    @zacariasfasil6055 Před 2 lety +21

    AFI Live at Hard Rock Cafe 2003 Full Concert
    Setlist:
    00:00 Intro
    00:30 Miseria Cantare - The Beginning
    03:20 The Leaving Song ||
    06:50 Interview - Hard Rock Vault 1
    08:06 Silver and Cold
    11:42 The Days of The Phoenix
    15:35 Interview - Hard Rock Vault 2
    16:46 Girl’s Not Grey
    19:50 Credits Ending

    • @yosefvargasx
      @yosefvargasx Před 2 dny

      I remember then showing clips from hard rock live, and they were singing god called in sick today. I never found that footage.

  • @jbruner42586
    @jbruner42586 Před 2 lety +5

    Damn I'm old. I was at this show. Wish the whole concert was actually here, not the MTV edited one.

  • @mlm628
    @mlm628 Před 4 lety +7

    Davey sounds so good in this. The whole band does.

  • @kek4153
    @kek4153 Před 2 lety +3

    AFI still sounds the same. So many years are lost, but they are souns good

  • @franktattak4497
    @franktattak4497 Před 3 lety +3

    wish this would get remastered

  • @postshanna
    @postshanna Před rokem +4

    This is so good it makes me want to cry. a really special time for the band

    • @TheWingnut707
      @TheWingnut707 Před rokem

      Davey's voice is so on point. Fuckin TREMENDOUS! Honestly makes me tear up a lil not getting to experience this live as a kid. Tried to make up for it with STS 20th in LA.

  • @richiev8454
    @richiev8454 Před 11 lety +12

    What separates this band from many others is that they ditched the image idea in the early days and just went out on genuine kindness and respect to others around the world. AFI has always been a decent role model for my way of growing up I have followed them for years and before internet was available to me. I used to blast the albums and play my electric guitar along with all the songs all day!

  • @FlorFernandez1
    @FlorFernandez1 Před 2 lety +4

    Estaba tan enamorada de Davey! Entré a mi fiesta de 15 años con Silver and Cold y todas mis carpetas de la secundaria estaban tapizadas con sus fotos, también mi habitación xD...Qué recuerdos!!!

    • @arii5379
      @arii5379 Před 2 lety

      Qué emoción! No tendrás video de tus 15?

  • @kasiecastleberry
    @kasiecastleberry Před rokem +1

    This is the exact set I saw in Atlanta at the masquerade, earlier in 2003. Only thing that was different was - smaller room, less lights, and a black long sleeved fish net shirt. Changed my life.

  • @duarte189x
    @duarte189x Před 2 měsíci

    I watched this live while touring the east coast. One of the most incredible performances I had ever witnessed until I saw the live footage from Long Beach. I saw them live at Warpt Tour in my 20s and again at 40 in 2023. Long live Davey and the boys. 🖤

  • @phoenixdolly
    @phoenixdolly Před 10 lety +7

    nostalgia! I remember when this came on mtv! Purely amazing!

  • @danielxu266
    @danielxu266 Před 10 lety +27

    Holy crap afi sounds better live than the studio recordings!

    • @DyingEmpire
      @DyingEmpire Před 10 lety +4

      they don't sound like this anymore, after Daveys vocal chords got screw up he cannot sound like the old Davey anymore... it makes me so sad because he was a huge inspiration into why I fell in love with music

    • @iambyrd1963
      @iambyrd1963 Před 10 lety +1

      DyingEmpire Not sure we are talking about the same AFI. I saw them three weeks ago in Tampa, and Davey sounded amazing. I will say I'm not a huge fan of the new record but, They were simply fantastic live. The only part of the show that wasn't that great was the Youth Code duo, that opened for them. They were awful.

    • @jaywoodhead2717
      @jaywoodhead2717 Před 10 lety

      That's why Davey Havok is one of the best singers of all time in my opinion.

    • @marcelocobas720
      @marcelocobas720 Před 10 lety

      Jay Woodhead I do respect AFI and also grew up listening to them. But there is no way you can be considered one of the best singers if you mess up your vocal chords.

    • @danielxu266
      @danielxu266 Před 10 lety

      Marcelo Cobas Maybe not the best singer, but definitely one of my all-time favorite ones.

  • @d.dulcedavila5993
    @d.dulcedavila5993 Před 10 lety +9

    Sigo llorando con esta banda en serio es la mejor!

  • @Erikpoker
    @Erikpoker Před 7 měsíci

    i went to catholic school. it was 5th grade in music class and we were tasked with sharing a song of our choosing. I chose AFI Dancing through sunday and it was fucking awesome none of those cupcakes ever heard anything like that and they loved it haha

  • @tiffanydaniels4433
    @tiffanydaniels4433 Před 8 měsíci +2

    That's got to be one of the best vocal performances I've heard from Davey. I'm probably wrong.

  • @stonehouseguitars3869
    @stonehouseguitars3869 Před rokem +3

    One of the most epic AFI performances ever

  • @Roy19189
    @Roy19189 Před 2 lety +3

    Love it !!! My fav band of all time

  • @ngocgialam8867
    @ngocgialam8867 Před 9 lety +6

    Amazing...Loved this so much...cannot believe it's been over 10 years. I don't know people still expect him to be like this...lol He's gonna change, I mean, it's been over 10 years lol

  • @xXLegitPPVProductionsXx
    @xXLegitPPVProductionsXx Před 6 lety +3

    I need this voice back in my life😍💖

  • @clayfern
    @clayfern Před měsícem

    Mais alguém em 2024 curtindo esse som!!!

  • @shaihulud6725
    @shaihulud6725 Před 3 lety +4

    This looks like a good concert. High energy. I don't know about you guys but I remember when
    I was told of story of crushed velvet, Candle wax, and dried up flowers

  • @DavidDantePhoenix
    @DavidDantePhoenix Před 7 lety +2

    Saw them in Dec. '03. I'll never forget that night as long as I live.

  • @meeksywampus
    @meeksywampus Před 6 lety +2

    I remember being at this show. Right up front. Fuck that was a good show.

  • @herracingthoughts
    @herracingthoughts Před rokem +1

    I remember watching this live. It was everything.

  • @Vladridesbike
    @Vladridesbike Před 2 lety +2

    It is simply incredible 🤯

  • @KingDaveth
    @KingDaveth Před 11 lety +2

    Great show, I loved Sing the Sorrows so much.

  • @ADucksOpinion
    @ADucksOpinion Před 8 lety +3

    never will i forget. tattooed on my skin.. best music ever..

  • @user-pm3qj7kj4w
    @user-pm3qj7kj4w Před 5 měsíci

    Goddammn, this take me back 29 years ago to when music didnt need the industry to bring it to the world. This was the best era of music in history

  • @Andrew-pm3wy
    @Andrew-pm3wy Před 2 lety +1

    Higher quality PLEEEASE! This is too good to be heard in this way.

  • @foreskrin
    @foreskrin Před 7 měsíci +1

    This was so fucking heavy. So much energy.

  • @andresdavid1961
    @andresdavid1961 Před 11 lety +2

    LO AMÉ!!! MEN ERES UN MAESTROOOO!! NO TEINES IDEA DE CUANTO AMAMOS UN GRUPO DE AMIGOS A AFI ACA EN ECUADOR!! thanks!!!

  • @thesvc2006
    @thesvc2006 Před 11 lety +1

    when this first aired i video taped it and watched every effin day

  • @bok569
    @bok569 Před měsícem

    They were the best band in the world at that point. STS is an amazing album

  • @Mr.Bungle03
    @Mr.Bungle03 Před 3 lety +1

    The first concert my girlfriend (now wife) saw together in Fargo, ND. 2003! Perfect show

  • @tsohgallik
    @tsohgallik Před 5 lety +8

    Whaaaaaattt Why am I just now watcing this???? .??? Dude WTF they also did God Called in Sick or what is that song Seasons??? Oh man wtf... Where is the crowd performance?? On a DvD thats no longer being sold?...??? OMFG... plllleeeeaasseeee....
    Okay... *breathes* I calmed down now....

  • @xlieblingx
    @xlieblingx Před 11 lety

    I used to have this on DVD but lost the disc. Thank you for uploading it here! :)

  • @billsd2op483
    @billsd2op483 Před 6 lety

    they are so spot on here at this show. sounds soo good. best I have heard live, and I have seen then about a dozen times.

  • @minatozakisana8244
    @minatozakisana8244 Před 3 lety +2

    The leaving song pt.II
    Don't waste your touch, you won't feel anything
    Or were you sent to save me?
    I've thought too much, you won't find anything...
    Worthy of redeeming
    Yo he estado aqui muchas veces antes y regreso
    To... break down, and cease all feeling
    Burn now, what once was breathing
    Reach out, and you may take my heart away
    Imperfect cry, and scream in ecstasy
    So what befalls the flawless?
    Look what I've built, it shines so beautifully
    Now watch as it destroys me
    Y regreso aqui otra vez y comienzo
    To... break down, and cease all feeling
    Burn now, what once was breathing
    Reach out, and you may take my heart away
    Break down, and cease all feeling
    Burn now, what once was breathing
    Reach out, and you may take my heart away
    I left it all behind, and never said goodbye
    I left it all behind, and never said goodbye
    I left it all behind, and never said goodbye
    I left it all to die
    I saw its birth, I watched it grow
    I felt it change me
    I took the life, I ate it slow
    Now it consumes me
    I... break down, and cease all feeling
    Burn now, what once was breathing
    Reach out, and you may take my heart away
    Break down, and cease all feeling
    Burn now, what once was breathing
    Reach out, and you may take my heart away
    Heart away

  • @miriamchavez7321
    @miriamchavez7321 Před 11 lety +2

    MUCHISISISISISISISMISMAS GRACIAS... TE ADOROOOOOO MIL POR ESTO!

  • @Hewroteitonthetabletofmyheart

    this is good stuff AFI rocked this tour

  • @evabakker
    @evabakker Před 3 lety +1

    How am I only watching this now!? What an amazing performance! Davey sounds amazing, they were one of my favorite bands since they released Sing The Sorrow and also really loved their early stuff. Their music was so different, I think more of AFI when I think of the rise of emo, than I do bands like MCR. I had the biggest crush on Davey, I was never one to crush on band dudes but this guy's charisma, style and beliefs were so awesome. I don't care much for AFI's work since Burials, and I have to admit I cried a little when Davey covered up his tattoos. Those tattoos and his overall style are what drew me into alternative/rock music when I was a 16 year old little emo kid

  • @jamoandb8470
    @jamoandb8470 Před 9 měsíci

    I was there. It was awesome. You can see me up front in a Samhain shirt. Johnny Cash had just died. That was sad.

  • @jorgebarrios2319
    @jorgebarrios2319 Před 11 lety

    Thanks for posting bro!!

  • @DanteLucifer46
    @DanteLucifer46 Před 2 lety +1

    БЕЗУМНО!!!!!♥♥♥

  • @phoenixdolly
    @phoenixdolly Před 10 lety

    ahh I agree to the max! those intros send give me chills.

  • @jessiepalermo7234
    @jessiepalermo7234 Před 3 lety

    I miss this AFI 😔

  • @JoeKooL25
    @JoeKooL25 Před 11 lety +2

    I'm from the very proud of ya days and this concert is murder..they killed it

  • @CarolynDie
    @CarolynDie Před 11 lety +1

    Una Joya De Verdad

  • @Mikeypurp
    @Mikeypurp Před 3 lety +3

    Dude jade and Davey switching off vocals in silver and cold is fucking magical

  • @dankpunk.
    @dankpunk. Před rokem

    Still gives me chills... @34🖤🔥

  • @christianperez7846
    @christianperez7846 Před měsícem

    This is gold

  • @drewbocop
    @drewbocop Před 3 lety +1

    absolutely fucking epic
    davey is inhuman
    drummer is on POINT
    peak afi

  • @Fishingdudethegreat
    @Fishingdudethegreat Před 29 dny

    First time I saw AFI was warped tour 2002 after the art of drowning dropped and was fucking amazing

  • @ThewEVILTWINSw
    @ThewEVILTWINSw Před 10 lety +2

    El mejor puto concierto de AFI me encanta!! :)

  • @BetterThanMeOfCourse
    @BetterThanMeOfCourse Před 10 lety +1

    What i wouldn't give to have been at this show!

  • @stevend7104
    @stevend7104 Před 5 lety +1

    his vocals are on point, so sick Davey

  • @Yona_Paloma
    @Yona_Paloma Před rokem

    His best version ever!!!!

  • @cent615
    @cent615 Před 11 lety

    tnx uploader! btw if u have the full concert of fuel in hard rock live please upload it too!

  • @afima337
    @afima337 Před 11 lety

    I was hoping this would be the actual full concert, where they played God Called in Sick Today, Bleed Black, the songs they didn't show on MTV. Still, thanks for the upload!

  • @julienjagger
    @julienjagger Před 11 lety

    detesto que no hayan televisado el concierto completo maldita sea u_u

  • @joearnold9733
    @joearnold9733 Před 10 lety +3

    That hair flip......

  • @anialopatiuk2467
    @anialopatiuk2467 Před 3 měsíci

    ❤ love

  • @omargarcia9119
    @omargarcia9119 Před 11 měsíci

    Que momentos … cuando el ROCK
    Era AMO … Y DUEÑO… DEL mUndo 🌎
    No había .. BASURa al Rededor (reggaeton )Saludos desde El Salvador 🇸🇻(

  • @NatureWar1
    @NatureWar1 Před měsícem

    I was there! MEMORIES! LOL

  • @legiondeby
    @legiondeby Před 11 lety +1

    Sueño con un concierto de ellos. OJala se decidan de venir a sudamerica algun dia. En Buenos Aires, los esperamos!

  • @MarxIsDeadAndRotting
    @MarxIsDeadAndRotting Před 7 měsíci +1

    I can't believe this was 20 years ago. That is insane. Music, art, culture, and societal demographics have gone to absolute crap since then.

  • @phoenixdolly
    @phoenixdolly Před 10 lety

    *give me chills

  • @ManthaRai90
    @ManthaRai90 Před 3 měsíci

    YASSS! 🤘🏻🤟🏻
    Despair Faction FTW!!
    🎸🥁🎤
    🎶 🖤🎵

    • @ManthaRai90
      @ManthaRai90 Před 3 měsíci

      THIS TOUR WAS FUCKIN EPIC!!! 🙌🏻🫶🏻

  • @master1990millions
    @master1990millions Před 6 lety +2

    😱😱😱😱😱😱

  • @ingvarhalling3069
    @ingvarhalling3069 Před 9 lety +1

    best live ever.

  • @gnarxy
    @gnarxy Před rokem

    Art of Drowning was the peak for AFI

  • @crookkedd313
    @crookkedd313 Před 10 lety +2

    13:22 Gets me every time. Lol, oh Jade.

    • @miriamchavez7321
      @miriamchavez7321 Před 8 lety +1

      +Jose Mata También me di cuenta! Es como muy travieso Jade xD

  • @Handqun
    @Handqun Před 8 lety

    2:48
    Pure bliss.

  • @madrockradio
    @madrockradio Před 11 lety +1

    Also, there's definitely a compressor on his vocals, that could be why it doesn't get quieter when he moves away.

  • @MrMotherfuck123
    @MrMotherfuck123 Před 11 lety +1

    Their best Time.

  • @miriamchavez7321
    @miriamchavez7321 Před 8 lety +3

    13:21 hahahahaha aww Jade :D

  • @badkittymiameow1951
    @badkittymiameow1951 Před 5 lety

    ♡♡♡♡♡♡

  • @axmaskiller
    @axmaskiller Před 3 měsíci

    You can clearly hear that they are highly punk rock influeted, and i think that's why they are the only "emo" band from the 2000s that i really like.

  • @secretscooterfile123
    @secretscooterfile123 Před 10 lety +1

    That one person who disliked this :(

  • @juannsuarezz
    @juannsuarezz Před 11 lety

    chingonnnnnnn

  • @madrockradio
    @madrockradio Před 11 lety

    Yes, but it does level it out a bit, depending on how harshly they compress it. They also of course mixed this AFTER it was performed, so they would have been riding the fader (probably automated it) to keep the vocals at a good level.

  • @Babbaloomusic1
    @Babbaloomusic1 Před 6 lety +1

    Back when people actually fully enjoyed the shows that they went to instead of watching the whole thing through their phones.