_I have been working with others to translate Sepia's relevant material for presentation in the Bomberman Wiki as well as see it appear in the Castlevania Wiki, along with information on Kokoro Belmont. Glad to see that effort is being put to use here._ Here is some more information on Sepia: she stands 2m tall, and that's taller than Dracula's "human" form by about 5" worth of centimeters. She is not only very nimble like every Belmont, but she is also LUDICROUSLY strong for a pure human. The official web-comic for Bombergirl has Lewysia Aqua Blue the aristocratic day-walker vampire bring up to Pine how Sepia once performed a sabaori move (from sumo wrestling) on a gigantic tree in the Suicide Forest found by Mt. Fuji, and she turned said tree to dust, pulverizing it. That canon feat really puts things into perspective when you see how easily she swings her Cross Chainsaw around when attacking. Aqua, while not malevolent against humanity as a whole, thus RUNS from Sepia out of fear for being put into the huntress' "love hugs" for how much it hurts - presumably, Sepia finds it VERY DIFFICULT to hold back her strength. The sheer intimidation of this huntress should be enough to make you know your place. Side note, the Parodius sub-universe with the two Otomedius games as part of it includes Kid Dracula as he is playable in two of the games. Thus, I feel that for the sake of consistency, the sub-universe should include Bombergirl and the now-in-location-testing Chase Chase Jokers, plus other new, prospective games in Konami's other IPs as side entries for silly, fan-service-included, light-hearted entries. (ASSUMING, OF COURSE, THAT THIS EVER GETS THROUGH TO THE PEOPLE AT THE COMPANY.) I mean, we have a Contra agent named Olive Drab in Bombergirl who would work for such a game in the art style and aesthetic. Let Kokoro and Sepia have relation ties working in here, and have fun with it all. A silly last thing to note, Sepia's VA did voice Gesshi Hanafuuma.
You’re right! I’m surprised I didn’t catch that, Bram Stokers Dracula influences Castlevania so much I should’ve checked lol. A really cool reference for both characters
It’s an honor being able to contribute my artwork to these videos. Very informative, and a good way for new fans to approach the series. Great work, my man!
Thank you so much dude! As usual I really appreciate it, your artwork is amazing some of the most expressive CV artwork out there. Gonna do my best to keep learning and improving these, thank you very much once again!
Honestly, if you were to put the art style aside, she isn't *that* far off of Castlevania's aesthetic in my opinion. I mean, she'd certainly stick out like a sore thumb if you stuck her into a new CV game without any redesigning, but she's still closer than I'd expect for a character from a game like Bombergirl. EDIT: Nobody introduce her to Maria, though.
I’m wondering if the Alucard Daughter Leila from Legend of the Satanic Castle book is a reference to Leila Marcus from Vampire Hunter D. To be fair, Satanic Castle came before they confirmed Alucard had the 300 year sleep in Symphony of the Night in 1997. The Vampire Hunter D Novel Demon Deathchase precedes the 1990 book by a few years, which is an easy mistake to make given how The animated film for Demon Deathchase came in 2000 with Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
A fact shown in Castlevania Judgment is that in the Main Universe of the franchise three timelines are interconnected: The IGA's Canon Timeline, the Gaiden Timeline (formed by the Nintendo 64 games) and the Kid Dracula's Timeline (which was the timeline where Galamoth emerged and sent the Time Reaper to eliminate the existance of Dracula forming a temporal anomaly); and further exploring these parallel timelines could even continue Castlevania Legends as a spin-off. And talking about Castlevania 64 one can assume that Reinhardt Schneider is a Belmont after all, the game claims that he is a pure descendant of the Belmont Clan (in 1852, a period that in the IGA's Timeline, the Belmonts couldn't use the Vampire Killer), not to mention that in the first concepts of the character would make him call Schneider Belmont while Cornell would receive the surname Reinhardt, but they made this change after the developers were informed that "Schneider" was a surname. And in Konami Wai Wai World, a Famicom game released in 1988, there's a playable character named Simon Belmont III (an interesting fact is that his japanese name says "Belmont" even instead of "Belmondo" which is the japanese standard to pronounce Berumondo).
Really interesting! Castlevania Judgment is a topic I want to cover in more detail in the future, but weather it’s canon or not doesn’t seem to have a definitive yes or no answer. It was still produced by IGA so I personally consider the details and character interactions genuine. Funny you mention that about Reinhardt, I was actually informed about him being a decent of the Belmont clan during the making of this video. Him being the main character of Castlevania 64 I decided not to include him, but he’s still absolutely worth highlighting as an obscure Belmont. Really interesting character, the Castlevania 64 games are some of the few I haven’t played yet. I’ll get to them one day lol. And wow I had no idea about Simon Belmont III! He seems to act the same as the traditional Simon, great catch I wish I knew about him beforehand.
@@StockeTepes Castlevania Judgment is already regarded as a "semi-canon": the events during the game's history don't matter to lore in general, but the backgrounds of the characters (told in the dialogues and the initial and final cutscenes) provide additional content that is canonized in the universe. He links the IGA's Canon Timeline with Kid Dracula's Timeline through Galamoth which, after being defeated by Kid Dracula, he sends the Time Reaper into a Time Rift to erase Dracula's existence to avoid his defeat to Kid Dracula while usurping the throne of Dark Lord/Maō (who in Kid Dracula, the position was unoccupied and Kid Dracula, who is the Alucard of this timeline was keeping unoccupied to keep the period of peace), and how this caused a temporal anomaly that affected all the timelines that contained some influence of Dracula, Aeon (a member of a group called Time Watchers that resolves temporal anomalies in history, and Curse of Darkness's St. Germain also participates in this group) gathered in the Time Rift warriors who had faced Dracula in their eras to prevent the Time Reaper. And with the failure of the Reaper of Time, Galamoth went to the IGA's Canon Timeline at a time when Dracula would be further weakened as a last resort to usurp the title of Dark Lord/Maō, which was in 1797 amid the events of Symphony of the Night. That is, the Galamoth that appears in Symphony of the Night is the same one that appeared in Kid Dracula (So much so that the Galamoth defeated in Kid Dracula has its wings ripped off, which explains why in Symphony of the Night it has no wings) and Castlevania Judgment makes that link. And the link with Gaiden Timeline (the name of this timeline was given by IGA as a reference to Japanese name of Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness, Akumajō Dracula - Mokushiroku GAIDEN: LEGEND OF CORNELL) was due to the inclusion of the character Cornell in the game that fell into the Time Rift before the events of his campaign in Legacy of Darkness as a way to bring this timeline back.
I love the original Gameboy games with Chris...had no clue of Castlevania Legends and Sonia. Now I gotta play that! Great video this was epic. Simon FTW!!!!
Hell yeah Wavy. A lot of people don’t like the two Christopher Belmont games but I thought they were really enjoyable. Didn’t overstay their welcome or anything lol. The Resurrection demo is unfinished but it’s a really interesting piece of history! I have to try it for myself as well
So I head cannon Sonia being Simon's daughter and juste's mother. I'm not saying alucard is juste's father. Oh Lord there will be more lore to handle not only for me but for you and other Castlevania fans.
I don’t see Sonia Belmont as being canon, it conflicts with how Alucard doesn’t really rethink his stance on hiding away until after Symphony of the Night. The whole idea of Dracula and Belmont being connected was used in the alternate timeline of Lords of Shadow
Yeah Sonia Belmont isn’t canon to the main timeline. With how Legends plays out it’s more of an alternate reality like Netflix or Lords of Shadow. It would be very interesting to see what would’ve happened after tho 🤔
But that’s what I like about it : It could make a good alternate universe story. It would totally change the nature of how Alucard is. It would be unlike Vampire Hunter D or Canon Alucard because he has a bloodline in the Belmonts which is what he has left, and a duty to protect and fight with them. They would be all that he had left of Sonia. It’s stated in the Manual for Legends that Alucard is a mysterious orphan boy that grew up knowing Sonia, and him knowing Sonia as a best friend makes him pretty different from canon Alucard in how he grew up, as he is implied to have had more of his life with humans and outside the kingdom of Dracula. Sonia and by implication others who are human and not Dracula have been part of his family and world. (I’m presuming Legends Alucard had someone who adopted him).
As a kid I was all about Castlevania Legends linking the Belmonts & Dracula in such a seemingly poetic way, also lending credence to the prejudice the Belmonts faced. I even wrote a bit of fan fiction connecting Sonia and Alucard further together. I was not happy with Iga initially declaring it non-canon and to this day have a bit of prejudice against Lament of Innocence’s retconning (though I did completely beat the game with all characters; it was a fun game). As an adult with more appreciation for nuance and less contrivance, I’m okay with the non-canonicity of Legends, though as a game of its time I think it’s good and doesn’t deserve near as much dumping on as it receives sometime. Plus unlike most game media, it actually kept the anime style in America, something that wasn’t always happening up to the turn of the century.
It would make an interesting alternate universe take, and yes, the whole idea of Alucard being Trevor Belmont’s father is interesting. Even moreso is that rather than run on his canon idea of “I cannot continue my bloodline”. It’s “I must protect them because they are what I have left.” IMO, it’s a more interesting concept for what you could do in some short story than what we got with Lords of Shadow. I don’t hate it, but it’s just that what came before it with Castlevania III and Symphony of the Night just didn’t really back it up. But I would still not mind some kind of Alternate Timeline where Alucard is the father in the story to the Belmonts or a kind of “Guardian Angel” to the Belmonts because they are his children.
Out of these I only know of Sonia and Victor. And I thought I was a huge fan of Castlevania, but you man, you're on the next level! Impressive how you always manage to find new hidden stuff, keep it up!
Kinda disappointed Resurrection never happened, but I bet Konami just decided after how poorly received the N64 titles were (especially since the Legacy of Darkness was just a remake of the 1st game they bungled) I guess they just decided to keep the franchise 2D for a while. Pity since I likely would have played that one since I found the Dreamcast controller more comfortable to use than the N64's monster.
A friend of mine knows a lot pf the Castlevania make your own adventure book, the one with Syd Belmont and from what he told me, like the characters being more like the children of the heroes, Belnades being a cousin, some futurr elements in the series came from this adventure like the Devil Forgemasters originated from this book.
Very true! When they were making Order of Shadows it was never intended to be canon, so I believe they just wanted to reference Lament of Innocence as much as possible without really considering the events in the game. Considering how important Rinaldos daughter was in motivating him to help Leon and other hunters in Lament of Innocence it would be kinda weird if he had an unnamed descendent somewhere. Maybe he starts another family after the game? I’m curious what happened to him after the game in canon now lol
I'm pretty sure Mina Hakuba's name is a callback to the original Dracula novel, with the main heroine being Mina Harker. And considering reincarnation is a thing in Castlevania, perhaps Hakuba is Harker's own reincarnation.
While it's never stated he's a Belmont, but he very well could be. And that's Vampire Hunter from Yu-Gi-Oh as a part of the Vampire Archetype which in of itself, is a gigantic reference to Castlevania. But like I said, it's not stated if he's a Belmont or a Morris, but since he holds what we can assume is either Vampire Killer or the Hunter Whip, we can assume he belongs to one of those families.
I forgot to mention this when I saw this earlier, but I have to say I am interested in learning more about that Super Castlevania IV book. Seems like a very unusual and interesting obscure bit of the series's history, even if the story is so divorced from the games.
Awesome! You’re the only one who’s shown some interest in it honestly haha, but I think I will delve into the subject sometime in the future. It’s quite long so I’d want to do the story justice
8:10 In the fanfiction series titled The Perfect Castlevania Timeline by GamerThumbTV, the story of Order of Shadows is continued in Castlevania Chronicles, in which Simon (in that series a son of Desmond) kills Dracula and destroys his castle.
Mina Hakuba is a call back to Mina Harker from the Dracula novel. Since Soma is the reincarnation of Dracula. Also in the Bram Stoker's Dracula movie from Francis Ford Copula, Dracula's wife was reincarnated as Mina Harker. So that's why he goes after her in the movie. This isn't something that is explained in the novel.
I wonder if you have seen or ever played Boktai. It's another franchise by konami, Kojima has involvement in it, and has many nods here and there to castlevania.
I didn’t even know this was a thing until now! Since this video I’ve been made aware of a couple more Obscure Belmonts… might have to make a part 2 sometime in the future
Super Castlevania 4 on the SNES! Great game, a remake of Simons adventure in Castlevania 1. You can play it on the Castlevania anniversary collection if interested
Apologies for the late reply, didn’t know you meant Harmony of Despair! You can check the game out with Xbox gamepass as of writing this comment but there’s only about 2 days left for that offer. Great game
Soleil as a French name is properly pronounced "so-lay", though it seems like both the Japanese devs and the localizers were unaware of this, Great video though
Oh wow, I don’t know if I’ve come across her before! There have been a few more Belmonts like her that people have brought up as well so I’d love to make a part 2 sometime in the future
"Defeated or Dead", the victory & results theme from No More Heroes 3! The whole game as a fantastic soundtrack. Would absolutely recommend giving it a listen 👍
"Thrashard in the Cave, arranged version" from Castlevania Chronicles. Very underrated game, here’s a CZcams link to the song czcams.com/video/UMMIdnJnQ5Q/video.html
@@StockeTepes I meant UNTIL and not after like song that is from 0:00 to 3:35 Thrashard in the Cave i know ive been listening to it for years even the remixes and i love it like this one czcams.com/video/Z3eT0UP0Iak/video.html And since you give footage list in description why not track list? It would help ppl like me and imagine how many was afraid to even ask But thx anyway for reply
I really pray they don't ever take Castlevania into a full on anime direction. That would suck. I can't stand that cutesy, goofy crap. Cool video though. I miss Castlevania. Been playing Circle of the Moon and Aria recently. Honestly, I find them a lot more tedious than I remember. Still good though.
You're using the word "canon" incorrectly. That's a word that describes the pieces of a given dogma or body of work that constitutes the truth of a given religion. Because that's something important that religious people need to sort out, what is and isn't canon actually matters, and differences between canons can be the source of differing sects or splinter religions forming out of the same basic tradition. The Abrahamic religions are one of the best examples of this. Saying something from Castlevania isn't canon would mean that it does not represent a divinely revealed dogmatic truth. Which... yes, you're right, but none of it does. They're video games. Castlevania isn't a religion, it's fiction, it's fake, none of it is real, there is no "correct" timeline, there is no one true version of events. Every single game in the series, every single piece of licensed media to ever bear the "Akumajou Dracula" or "Castlevania" brand is non-canon. All of it. Period. What Igarashi decides fits into his timeline is nothing more than his personal opinion. He's entitled to it, and as a huge creative force behind the franchise, it's definitely obvious why his opinion would be very important to a lot of the audience of the games. However, it is, still, just his opinion. Frankly, any interpretation of Dracula that isn't... actually Dracula, is a failure. If your story can't get past the bare minimum of having the characters actually be the characters that they are... well, then... why even have characters at all at that point? So Lament of Innocence fails on that, but more importantly, if you're going to say that Dracula isn't really Dracula, you better come PACKING HEAT and have a DAMN fucking good reason to justify that. If you're going to take on the origin of the name, you better come prepared. But... nope, the whole thing is predicated on a fucking typo in an instruction manual, and the story amounts to his identity being literally who and he's barely even a part of it at all. But the real kicker is that nothing about the game actually invalidates anything that happens in Legends. What's the hard evidence that Sonia isn't Leon's descendant? There isn't any, that's just Igarashi's personal opinion. So, if you ask me, Lament of Innocence is the one that can't fit into the timeline given by the rest of the games, that's the entry that's not "canon." The mere existence of that game is a joke, it shouldn't even be real, building an entire video game out of a single typo in an instruction manual is totally batshit. I mean I personally don't actually dislike the game, I think the story is pure fuckin' garbage, but I actually had a lot of fun playing it, it's not the best per se but it was a good time. But if you wanna talk about which games work in the timeline? Legends is the origin story, Lament is just a joke game, no more "canon" than Kid Dracula is. Dracula IS Dracula, and I will hear nothing else on the matter.
_I have been working with others to translate Sepia's relevant material for presentation in the Bomberman Wiki as well as see it appear in the Castlevania Wiki, along with information on Kokoro Belmont. Glad to see that effort is being put to use here._
Here is some more information on Sepia: she stands 2m tall, and that's taller than Dracula's "human" form by about 5" worth of centimeters. She is not only very nimble like every Belmont, but she is also LUDICROUSLY strong for a pure human. The official web-comic for Bombergirl has Lewysia Aqua Blue the aristocratic day-walker vampire bring up to Pine how Sepia once performed a sabaori move (from sumo wrestling) on a gigantic tree in the Suicide Forest found by Mt. Fuji, and she turned said tree to dust, pulverizing it. That canon feat really puts things into perspective when you see how easily she swings her Cross Chainsaw around when attacking. Aqua, while not malevolent against humanity as a whole, thus RUNS from Sepia out of fear for being put into the huntress' "love hugs" for how much it hurts - presumably, Sepia finds it VERY DIFFICULT to hold back her strength. The sheer intimidation of this huntress should be enough to make you know your place.
Side note, the Parodius sub-universe with the two Otomedius games as part of it includes Kid Dracula as he is playable in two of the games. Thus, I feel that for the sake of consistency, the sub-universe should include Bombergirl and the now-in-location-testing Chase Chase Jokers, plus other new, prospective games in Konami's other IPs as side entries for silly, fan-service-included, light-hearted entries. (ASSUMING, OF COURSE, THAT THIS EVER GETS THROUGH TO THE PEOPLE AT THE COMPANY.) I mean, we have a Contra agent named Olive Drab in Bombergirl who would work for such a game in the art style and aesthetic. Let Kokoro and Sepia have relation ties working in here, and have fun with it all. A silly last thing to note, Sepia's VA did voice Gesshi Hanafuuma.
Mina is most likely a reference in both cases to Mina Harker from the original dracula novel.
You’re right! I’m surprised I didn’t catch that, Bram Stokers Dracula influences Castlevania so much I should’ve checked lol. A really cool reference for both characters
Sonia: **is trevor's mother**
Alucard: **is trevor's father**
*Lord of shadows flashbacks*
I think it would be wierd but still satisfying if Alucard told Trevor he was his father and Trevor went WTF?!!
11:35 👁👁 huge honkers
Ara Ara Drac-kun
Simon is my guy, ever. Grew up with the original game, and simon tragic journey between 1 and 2 has a special place in my heart.
This!
Level 1 VK: Leather whip
Level 2 VK: Flail
Level 3 VK: Long morning star
Level 4 VK: Bright light
Sepia's Level 5 VK: A FREAKING CHAINSAW
I mean, a chain WHIP turning into a chain SAW isn't that much of a stretch! I think.
I'm fascinated with this video because the most obscure Belmont I knew was Kokoro. A lot of these I did not know even existed.
Sepia Belmont has some big mommy energy and I love it
It’s an honor being able to contribute my artwork to these videos. Very informative, and a good way for new fans to approach the series. Great work, my man!
Thank you so much dude! As usual I really appreciate it, your artwork is amazing some of the most expressive CV artwork out there. Gonna do my best to keep learning and improving these, thank you very much once again!
i will not be upset if they make Sepia belmont canon
Honestly, if you were to put the art style aside, she isn't *that* far off of Castlevania's aesthetic in my opinion.
I mean, she'd certainly stick out like a sore thumb if you stuck her into a new CV game without any redesigning, but she's still closer than I'd expect for a character from a game like Bombergirl.
EDIT: Nobody introduce her to Maria, though.
well, if you actually adapt her look and change some aspects, she could fit, tho it would be weird to see a chainsaw whip
@@somefries3101 or it could be really cool
Less wierd than if Alucard was Trevor’s father
If this this happens i will smile like caim from drakengard
Other belmont: *wants to kill dracula*
Sepia: *big mommy energy*
I’m wondering if the Alucard Daughter Leila from Legend of the Satanic Castle book is a reference to Leila Marcus from Vampire Hunter D. To be fair, Satanic Castle came before they confirmed Alucard had the 300 year sleep in Symphony of the Night in 1997. The Vampire Hunter D Novel Demon Deathchase precedes the 1990 book by a few years, which is an easy mistake to make given how The animated film for Demon Deathchase came in 2000 with Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
A fact shown in Castlevania Judgment is that in the Main Universe of the franchise three timelines are interconnected: The IGA's Canon Timeline, the Gaiden Timeline (formed by the Nintendo 64 games) and the Kid Dracula's Timeline (which was the timeline where Galamoth emerged and sent the Time Reaper to eliminate the existance of Dracula forming a temporal anomaly); and further exploring these parallel timelines could even continue Castlevania Legends as a spin-off.
And talking about Castlevania 64 one can assume that Reinhardt Schneider is a Belmont after all, the game claims that he is a pure descendant of the Belmont Clan (in 1852, a period that in the IGA's Timeline, the Belmonts couldn't use the Vampire Killer), not to mention that in the first concepts of the character would make him call Schneider Belmont while Cornell would receive the surname Reinhardt, but they made this change after the developers were informed that "Schneider" was a surname.
And in Konami Wai Wai World, a Famicom game released in 1988, there's a playable character named Simon Belmont III (an interesting fact is that his japanese name says "Belmont" even instead of "Belmondo" which is the japanese standard to pronounce Berumondo).
Really interesting! Castlevania Judgment is a topic I want to cover in more detail in the future, but weather it’s canon or not doesn’t seem to have a definitive yes or no answer. It was still produced by IGA so I personally consider the details and character interactions genuine. Funny you mention that about Reinhardt, I was actually informed about him being a decent of the Belmont clan during the making of this video. Him being the main character of Castlevania 64 I decided not to include him, but he’s still absolutely worth highlighting as an obscure Belmont. Really interesting character, the Castlevania 64 games are some of the few I haven’t played yet. I’ll get to them one day lol. And wow I had no idea about Simon Belmont III! He seems to act the same as the traditional Simon, great catch I wish I knew about him beforehand.
@@StockeTepes Castlevania Judgment is already regarded as a "semi-canon": the events during the game's history don't matter to lore in general, but the backgrounds of the characters (told in the dialogues and the initial and final cutscenes) provide additional content that is canonized in the universe.
He links the IGA's Canon Timeline with Kid Dracula's Timeline through Galamoth which, after being defeated by Kid Dracula, he sends the Time Reaper into a Time Rift to erase Dracula's existence to avoid his defeat to Kid Dracula while usurping the throne of Dark Lord/Maō (who in Kid Dracula, the position was unoccupied and Kid Dracula, who is the Alucard of this timeline was keeping unoccupied to keep the period of peace), and how this caused a temporal anomaly that affected all the timelines that contained some influence of Dracula, Aeon (a member of a group called Time Watchers that resolves temporal anomalies in history, and Curse of Darkness's St. Germain also participates in this group) gathered in the Time Rift warriors who had faced Dracula in their eras to prevent the Time Reaper. And with the failure of the Reaper of Time, Galamoth went to the IGA's Canon Timeline at a time when Dracula would be further weakened as a last resort to usurp the title of Dark Lord/Maō, which was in 1797 amid the events of Symphony of the Night. That is, the Galamoth that appears in Symphony of the Night is the same one that appeared in Kid Dracula (So much so that the Galamoth defeated in Kid Dracula has its wings ripped off, which explains why in Symphony of the Night it has no wings) and Castlevania Judgment makes that link.
And the link with Gaiden Timeline (the name of this timeline was given by IGA as a reference to Japanese name of Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness, Akumajō Dracula - Mokushiroku GAIDEN: LEGEND OF CORNELL) was due to the inclusion of the character Cornell in the game that fell into the Time Rift before the events of his campaign in Legacy of Darkness as a way to bring this timeline back.
I love the original Gameboy games with Chris...had no clue of Castlevania Legends and Sonia. Now I gotta play that! Great video this was epic. Simon FTW!!!!
Hell yeah Wavy. A lot of people don’t like the two Christopher Belmont games but I thought they were really enjoyable. Didn’t overstay their welcome or anything lol. The Resurrection demo is unfinished but it’s a really interesting piece of history! I have to try it for myself as well
Great video and criminally underrated channel. Thanks for bringing this obscure facts to light!
So I head cannon Sonia being Simon's daughter and juste's mother. I'm not saying alucard is juste's father. Oh Lord there will be more lore to handle not only for me but for you and other Castlevania fans.
Never knew there were so many belmonts lol really cool and well paced video
Another great video! Love how much work and research you put into these! Keep them coming!
I don’t see Sonia Belmont as being canon, it conflicts with how Alucard doesn’t really rethink his stance on hiding away until after Symphony of the Night. The whole idea of Dracula and Belmont being connected was used in the alternate timeline of Lords of Shadow
Yeah Sonia Belmont isn’t canon to the main timeline. With how Legends plays out it’s more of an alternate reality like Netflix or Lords of Shadow. It would be very interesting to see what would’ve happened after tho 🤔
But that’s what I like about it : It could make a good alternate universe story. It would totally change the nature of how Alucard is. It would be unlike Vampire Hunter D or Canon Alucard because he has a bloodline in the Belmonts which is what he has left, and a duty to protect and fight with them. They would be all that he had left of Sonia. It’s stated in the Manual for Legends that Alucard is a mysterious orphan boy that grew up knowing Sonia, and him knowing Sonia as a best friend makes him pretty different from canon Alucard in how he grew up, as he is implied to have had more of his life with humans and outside the kingdom of Dracula. Sonia and by implication others who are human and not Dracula have been part of his family and world. (I’m presuming Legends Alucard had someone who adopted him).
@@StockeTepes It’s been a while, but I agree, some alternate reality where Alucard reveals to Trevor that he is his father.
Great video as always, really you need to be more recognized! And again great work with this.
Thank you so much! Put a lot into this one I’m really glad it shows, gonna keep doing my best to keep learning and improving
As a kid I was all about Castlevania Legends linking the Belmonts & Dracula in such a seemingly poetic way, also lending credence to the prejudice the Belmonts faced. I even wrote a bit of fan fiction connecting Sonia and Alucard further together. I was not happy with Iga initially declaring it non-canon and to this day have a bit of prejudice against Lament of Innocence’s retconning (though I did completely beat the game with all characters; it was a fun game). As an adult with more appreciation for nuance and less contrivance, I’m okay with the non-canonicity of Legends, though as a game of its time I think it’s good and doesn’t deserve near as much dumping on as it receives sometime. Plus unlike most game media, it actually kept the anime style in America, something that wasn’t always happening up to the turn of the century.
It would make an interesting alternate universe take, and yes, the whole idea of Alucard being Trevor Belmont’s father is interesting. Even moreso is that rather than run on his canon idea of “I cannot continue my bloodline”. It’s “I must protect them because they are what I have left.” IMO, it’s a more interesting concept for what you could do in some short story than what we got with Lords of Shadow.
I don’t hate it, but it’s just that what came before it with Castlevania III and Symphony of the Night just didn’t really back it up. But I would still not mind some kind of Alternate Timeline where Alucard is the father in the story to the Belmonts or a kind of “Guardian Angel” to the Belmonts because they are his children.
Mina Hakuba is a reference to Mina Harker from Bram Stoker's Dracula.
Hearing the announcer from 3rd Strike made me smile❤
"YEAH! THAT MAKES SENSE!"
Today I learned that Sepia is actually a Belmont...
I’m so sorry 😭
Out of these I only know of Sonia and Victor. And I thought I was a huge fan of Castlevania, but you man, you're on the next level! Impressive how you always manage to find new hidden stuff, keep it up!
Thank you so much man!
Kinda disappointed Resurrection never happened, but I bet Konami just decided after how poorly received the N64 titles were (especially since the Legacy of Darkness was just a remake of the 1st game they bungled) I guess they just decided to keep the franchise 2D for a while. Pity since I likely would have played that one since I found the Dreamcast controller more comfortable to use than the N64's monster.
A friend of mine knows a lot pf the Castlevania make your own adventure book, the one with Syd Belmont and from what he told me, like the characters being more like the children of the heroes, Belnades being a cousin, some futurr elements in the series came from this adventure like the Devil Forgemasters originated from this book.
All the female Belmonts are funnily enough non-canon.
Maria Renard is a Belmont
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes *all Female Belmonts that use the Belmont family name are non-canon
@@phoenixdouchebag904 Yeah, it’s kind of a tough Surname thing.
Wow you used music from Rayxanber in this. I didn't know anyone else freaking played that, let alone liked the music!~
7:40 But…Rinaldo was an old man and all his family are dead via Walter? How would he have a descendant???
Very true! When they were making Order of Shadows it was never intended to be canon, so I believe they just wanted to reference Lament of Innocence as much as possible without really considering the events in the game. Considering how important Rinaldos daughter was in motivating him to help Leon and other hunters in Lament of Innocence it would be kinda weird if he had an unnamed descendent somewhere. Maybe he starts another family after the game? I’m curious what happened to him after the game in canon now lol
I just discovered your channel, this is great! It's rare to find dedicated Castlevania/Konami channels, I hope you keep putting out excellent content.
Thank you so much!
The pose soleiyu made in his boss fight reminds me of the beginning of the dark soma boss from dawn of sorrow
I'm pretty sure Mina Hakuba's name is a callback to the original Dracula novel, with the main heroine being Mina Harker. And considering reincarnation is a thing in Castlevania, perhaps Hakuba is Harker's own reincarnation.
Yup, it indeed is!
Slight caveat Mina hated Dracula because he tried to steal her husband Jonathan Harker
While it's never stated he's a Belmont, but he very well could be. And that's Vampire Hunter from Yu-Gi-Oh as a part of the Vampire Archetype which in of itself, is a gigantic reference to Castlevania. But like I said, it's not stated if he's a Belmont or a Morris, but since he holds what we can assume is either Vampire Killer or the Hunter Whip, we can assume he belongs to one of those families.
Rest in peace and love, Etika. Great video, Stocke!
Sonia's Baby could be named "Trevor Tepes Belmont" 😅
Excellent video!
The video started going darker and darker after Kokoro. Man...
All those Belmont characters both canon & non-canon.
Makes one's head spin, doesn't it?
Writing this video a year ago now I went a little crazy because of it 😆
I remember talking to my friend about the series and looked up the list of Belmonts. I saw some of these and ended up saying "who tf is Sid Belmont?"
I forgot to mention this when I saw this earlier, but I have to say I am interested in learning more about that Super Castlevania IV book. Seems like a very unusual and interesting obscure bit of the series's history, even if the story is so divorced from the games.
Awesome! You’re the only one who’s shown some interest in it honestly haha, but I think I will delve into the subject sometime in the future. It’s quite long so I’d want to do the story justice
8:10 In the fanfiction series titled The Perfect Castlevania Timeline by GamerThumbTV, the story of Order of Shadows is continued in Castlevania Chronicles, in which Simon (in that series a son of Desmond) kills Dracula and destroys his castle.
Thrashard in the cave gotta be one of the best Castlevania songs ever made
I was looking forward to seeing simondo belmont (from contra hard corps) and simon belmont III (konami wai wai world)...
Awesome vid, love Castlevania!
11:30 took the words out of my mouth
Nice work! This was interesting!
Wow, I've never even heard of most of these characters! Sepia is... interesting, lets just say that.
Great videos, keep it up man !
Mina Hakuba is a call back to Mina Harker from the Dracula novel. Since Soma is the reincarnation of Dracula. Also in the Bram Stoker's Dracula movie from Francis Ford Copula, Dracula's wife was reincarnated as Mina Harker. So that's why he goes after her in the movie. This isn't something that is explained in the novel.
Great video! Subbed!
Thank you so much!
Pierre Belmont for smash
I wonder if you have seen or ever played Boktai. It's another franchise by konami, Kojima has involvement in it, and has many nods here and there to castlevania.
I haven’t! I’ll definitely look into it, sounds really interesting especially if there are Castlevania references
If someone needs the song its Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Paradigm Shift
Mina was a reference to Mina Harker in the book Dracula.
Has anyone mentioned the cyborg Belmont from contra?
I didn’t even know this was a thing until now! Since this video I’ve been made aware of a couple more Obscure Belmonts… might have to make a part 2 sometime in the future
Really enjoyed the video :)
Stokke, you can have my signed photo of Patrick Stewart.
we need more sepia belmont
Mina most likely got her name from Stocker's Dracula novel
What was the Castlevania game in the background starting at 14:03
Edit: I meant at 12:52
Super Castlevania 4 on the SNES! Great game, a remake of Simons adventure in Castlevania 1. You can play it on the Castlevania anniversary collection if interested
@@StockeTepes Sorry I meant 12:52
@@leonidanuziale1116 It's from Castlevania: Harmony of Despair
Apologies for the late reply, didn’t know you meant Harmony of Despair! You can check the game out with Xbox gamepass as of writing this comment but there’s only about 2 days left for that offer. Great game
11:50 music please
Soleil as a French name is properly pronounced "so-lay", though it seems like both the Japanese devs and the localizers were unaware of this, Great video though
I am at 3:55 and fighting to see which castlevania title is in the timeline of 1897 before bloodlines...Help please..
How about Simon wife Selena Belmont from haunted castle and lords of shadows?
Thanks.
What about Sherry Belmont From Zatch bell
Oh wow, I don’t know if I’ve come across her before! There have been a few more Belmonts like her that people have brought up as well so I’d love to make a part 2 sometime in the future
any list for the music used? made me nostalgic but can't remember where it came from
I swear Dracula come back way more than he should
What is the song at the end of the video
"Defeated or Dead", the victory & results theme from No More Heroes 3! The whole game as a fantastic soundtrack. Would absolutely recommend giving it a listen 👍
Hey can someone please link me scans of that Simon choose your own adventure
I now love Kokoro Belmont.
I'm going to be honest with you I only watch this video because of sepia that is the only reason
i wonder why
Coomer moment
I'm pretty sure it's pronounced "so-LAY." It's the French word for "sun."
Wish Aria of Sorrow was taken out of the continuity of the series
Why?
Because it’s an odd storyline as Soma’s Dracula in Dracula’s castle in an eclipse in Japan….
What is name of the music playing in the background? I mean the 1st one that last until 3:35
"Thrashard in the Cave, arranged version" from Castlevania Chronicles. Very underrated game, here’s a CZcams link to the song czcams.com/video/UMMIdnJnQ5Q/video.html
@@StockeTepes I meant UNTIL and not after like song that is from 0:00 to 3:35
Thrashard in the Cave i know ive been listening to it for years even the remixes and i love it like this one czcams.com/video/Z3eT0UP0Iak/video.html
And since you give footage list in description why not track list? It would help ppl like me and imagine how many was afraid to even ask
But thx anyway for reply
I really pray they don't ever take Castlevania into a full on anime direction. That would suck. I can't stand that cutesy, goofy crap. Cool video though. I miss Castlevania. Been playing Circle of the Moon and Aria recently. Honestly, I find them a lot more tedious than I remember. Still good though.
Animevania can be good if done correctly
@@somersaultinggiraffe1901 True, but I have ZERO faith that it would be.
@@TsDwelling yeah that's true. Either they'll screw up the lore or just make it cringe
You're using the word "canon" incorrectly. That's a word that describes the pieces of a given dogma or body of work that constitutes the truth of a given religion. Because that's something important that religious people need to sort out, what is and isn't canon actually matters, and differences between canons can be the source of differing sects or splinter religions forming out of the same basic tradition. The Abrahamic religions are one of the best examples of this.
Saying something from Castlevania isn't canon would mean that it does not represent a divinely revealed dogmatic truth. Which... yes, you're right, but none of it does. They're video games. Castlevania isn't a religion, it's fiction, it's fake, none of it is real, there is no "correct" timeline, there is no one true version of events. Every single game in the series, every single piece of licensed media to ever bear the "Akumajou Dracula" or "Castlevania" brand is non-canon. All of it. Period. What Igarashi decides fits into his timeline is nothing more than his personal opinion. He's entitled to it, and as a huge creative force behind the franchise, it's definitely obvious why his opinion would be very important to a lot of the audience of the games. However, it is, still, just his opinion.
Frankly, any interpretation of Dracula that isn't... actually Dracula, is a failure. If your story can't get past the bare minimum of having the characters actually be the characters that they are... well, then... why even have characters at all at that point? So Lament of Innocence fails on that, but more importantly, if you're going to say that Dracula isn't really Dracula, you better come PACKING HEAT and have a DAMN fucking good reason to justify that. If you're going to take on the origin of the name, you better come prepared. But... nope, the whole thing is predicated on a fucking typo in an instruction manual, and the story amounts to his identity being literally who and he's barely even a part of it at all. But the real kicker is that nothing about the game actually invalidates anything that happens in Legends. What's the hard evidence that Sonia isn't Leon's descendant? There isn't any, that's just Igarashi's personal opinion.
So, if you ask me, Lament of Innocence is the one that can't fit into the timeline given by the rest of the games, that's the entry that's not "canon." The mere existence of that game is a joke, it shouldn't even be real, building an entire video game out of a single typo in an instruction manual is totally batshit. I mean I personally don't actually dislike the game, I think the story is pure fuckin' garbage, but I actually had a lot of fun playing it, it's not the best per se but it was a good time. But if you wanna talk about which games work in the timeline? Legends is the origin story, Lament is just a joke game, no more "canon" than Kid Dracula is. Dracula IS Dracula, and I will hear nothing else on the matter.