San Jose to Merced Project Section Overview - FULL VIDEO
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- The San Jose to Merced project section of the California high-speed rail system will provide a critical rail link between the San Francisco Bay Area and the Central Valley. The alignment runs through or near the cities of Santa Clara, San Jose, Morgan Hill, Gilroy, and Los Banos. The project section modernizes the rail corridor between San Jose and Gilroy, allowing for electrified Caltrain and high-speed rail services, and includes more than 15 miles of tunnels through the Pacheco Pass.
For more information visit www.hsr.ca.gov
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Great! now get those shovels in the dirt
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Half expected to see you here. Hello!
Cool seeing you here, yes let’s keep on moving!
Nah, this is California. We all know they won't do that.
@@Token_Nerd We’re already doing it, unlike every other American HSR and “HSR” project out there. CHSR and the Acela are still the only two games in this town.
All the others keep running their mouthes but California is the only state actually building actual, honest-to-goodness HSR in America.
Thanks again for your CHSR explainer! It was pure greatness on your part! You’re the only rail CZcamsr to not jump on the CHSR hate bandwagon! Glad you exist!
Also, “MerKed”!
Good job at explaining why the price tag is so high. These structures are not just wanted, they are necessary to reverse the environmental impacts caused by the road transportation and eliminate the potential environmental impacts caused by the planned high speed rail. I don't think anything is being done without much thought. Hope to ride this once the line construction is complete and I am back in the Bay Area.
Glad to see at least someone recognizing that the high costs come from the very design changes the local communities requested! You see people on here all the time that demand more expensive changes in one sentence and then complain about the high cost in the next. They really need to decide which option they actually want. It can either be built right or cheap. You can't have both and some cake to go with your choice too!
@@TohaBgood2 Some news (tabloid-like) articles incorrectly assume that CAHSR is doomed and points to some decisions that may seem terrible on paper but are the only practical option to keep the cost as low as possible. Those articles incorrectly assume that new track is being built for the entire line whereas in reality much of the construction of HSR is modernizing and adjusting existing tracks and right of ways. I can say that the NYMTA is even further behind than the Bay Area and California with its almost century old systems that do not support automatic train operation, but then the MTA dug itself into a hole in the 1990s and 2000s while California did not rely much on private debt to get its projects completed. If anything, track modernization is an important step in building any new railroad infrastructure projects.
@@Awesome_Aasim I find it hilarious that they have switched to this meme now. In the past, some of the same or very similar tabloids were complaining that CHSR chose the "blended" system approach for the bookends in the SF and LA areas. On one occasion I actually caught the same author complaining first that CHSR would be too slow at the "blended" bookends, and a few years later that CHSR would be too expensive because it's "completely" grade separated everywhere.
I don't even know how to react to this any more. At this point I'm just assuming that this is paid propaganda and that the authors of these articles just use a list of bullet points from some organization that paid them for the article in one way or another.
I've worked with corporate PR and marketing. I remember being extremely surprised by how easy it is to plant a news story in a supposedly reputable publication if you knew the right people. I honestly think that this is exactly what is happening here. Grift!
@@TohaBgood2 I think they miss the point. California is aiming for reliable and dependable, not mediocre. They want people to get out of cars and trucks on I-5 and US-101 and airplanes flying between San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego and actually ride HSR to and from these major cities and the Central Valley. As has been proven with the Shinkansen and the TGV, people will ride high speed rail as opposed to fly if they are given the option to and if they are incentivized to. This rail project is definitely going to have cascading benefits as it allows for cleaner transportation of goods and people between Norcal and Socal, and will definitely give California a reason to eventually phase out gas cars and diesel trucks in favor of electric in the not to distant future.
A bunch of these things seem to be ingenious ways to get funding for the already insanely high land prices.
As a Californian I will not stop believing in this project. Once this is finished and people have a chance to ride it, everyone will forget about how much it cost or how long it took, they will only focus on how awesome train travel really is!!
Wow, you're special
@@anthonyherweck5765 Actually, the majority of Californians feel the same. I do. Everyone I know feels the same. I’ve never met anyone who would be against this project. Everyone says we should have built it in the 80s when it was originally brought up.
CHSR is more popular now than when it was approved by voters in 2008. The anti-CHSR right wing propaganda has failed utterly to turn the population against this project within California. Nevertheless, they kind of succeeded outside of CA. So now we have the ridiculous situation where the people who are actually paying for CHSR are in favor of it and a bunch of non-Californians are against it although they have no horse in the race.
Weird dynamic but the opponents don’t even live here so who cares what they think.
@@TohaBgood2 I think that's only true in the Bay area and LA. I think the rest of the state would prefer not to have it. I think it's an utter waste of money. I have to drive by portions of the HSR very frequently, it's a huge eye sore. To be honest, I think anyone that agrees with this project is very out of touch with people outside of their own point of view.
@@anthonyherweck5765 That’s the majority. You’re talking about the majority of the state. In a democratic republic whoever convinces a majority of people gets to have their way.
The majority of Californians, a larger majority than when the first tranche of funding was approved, want this project built. It’s literally engrained in law. It will be built. And judging by how popular the San Joaquins is, the trains will probably be bursting at the seams from day one.
@@TohaBgood2 I'm well aware of how the voting process works, no need to explain. I on the other hand, I think you are very incorrect regarding the usage when it starts. I live in the valley, there won't be that much demand between Bakersfield to Modesto. You clearly, haven't spent that much time here in Central valley
I'll take it. It'll probably mean that Caltrain runs down to Gilroy way more often than it does now, and using Gilroy to connect Monterey Bay is good(less pressure to make Highway 17 carry all the commute traffic). 110 MPH along that corridor and higher frequencies is nothing to dismiss. And building out Diridon and getting BART in there will finally give the Bay a mostly-complete circuit of metro rail. There's a lot to this project section beyond the Central Valley and southern connections.
In the meantime I'll be watching the micromobility space. Cheap, fast-growing, gets cars off the roads, encourages bike infrastructure and collaborates with transit connections. It's a good ground-up movement that changes the picture of last mile services. HSR is something I'll probably only ride as often as airplanes, which isn't that often, but I'll use local streets every day.
For micromobility to work, the road designs and city planning will need to be drastically altered to make things safer. It will likely take as long as the Netherlands did (about 20-30 years) to fully achieve that.
@@mk3a oh, definitely, transportation to and from the stations is the next struggle after the train is built. CAHSR should spur development around the stations though, which should improve this a bit
Alternative 4 is the best way forward for providing the greatest benefits to the existing Caltrain corridor, but only if there's an emphasis to grade separate the entire corridor, at least between Gilroy and San Jose, before high speed trains start running.
@@Jdogg4089 Of all the places to cut cost, this isn't a bad one - they can always make new grade separations later.
@@Jdogg4089 well I don’t expect them to pay for all the grade separations on the Caltrain corridor (I believe that’ll be up to each city, like San Jose that recently received $7.5 million in a federal infrastructure grant for three grade separation projects along Monterey Road, including Branham Lane). CAHSR did help fund the San Mateo 25th Ave grade separation, as well as the Rosecrans/Marquardt grade separation in Santa Fe Springs. Alternative 4 does help deliver high speed rail as well as greater benefits to the existing corridor sooner with the least impact.
Are you gonna pay the extra 100 billion dollars?
@@Jdogg4089 If they were really "cheaping out everywhere" they would've cut out that 13 mile long tunnel.
@@Dogod2 actually it’s a horrible thing to cut cost on cause not grade separating means they have to drive slower.
Can't wait until construction starts. I'm not sure why they decided to leave grade crossings on a high speed railway. Brightline should serve as an example of why it's not a good idea to do this.
Quad gates are supposedly safer than conventional crossing gates, but I believe the long term plan is to grade separate the entire Caltrain corridor. I believe it's the same for the Metrolink corridor at least between Burbank and Anaheim (I know there's plans to fully grade separate Burbank to LA, along with the Rosecrans/Marquardt grade separation in Santa Fe Springs, so I imagine that trend will continue to Anaheim).
@@ChrisJones-gx7fc Well that's good they're using quad gates.
@@TheRailwayDrone oh yeah. Iirc, the entire route for hsr is going to be quad gated. Could be wrong and if i am, they better do that asap if it aint completely separated already
@@TheRailwayDrone at 1:54 they show the quad gate concept for the intersection of Branham Lane and Monterey Road. Interestingly though, the city of San Jose recently received $7.5 million in a federal infrastructure grant to begin work grade separating this intersection along with the intersections at Skyway Drive and Chynoweth Avenue. This will hopefully be done before high speed trains start rolling through here probably in 2031 at the earliest.
So the quad gates are a way to get the corridor ready as quickly as possible, while grade separations would be the long term plan and likely done by the respective cities they’re in.
@@Yvonne-Bella without quad gates they'd never get approval for any decent speeds
Get it built! Always glad to see more progress on CHSR!
Thank you for sharing a nice video. Greetings from Japan.
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Give us your high speed train!
It's awesome to hear that the CHSRA has a plan to protect Wildlife to prevent any casualties and keeping any species safe.
They need to plan to protect human life and remove grade crossings.
Wildlife is safe for generations because this boondoggle will take lifetimes to complete, if ever.
@@davidjackson7281 You lost, bud. Despite all of your oil shill propaganda, more Californians support this project now than when the bond measure was passed. Maybe consider a different state. Clearly your priorities don’t align with our state’s plans for the future.
@@TohaBgood2 As I have expressed to you before, there is no need to respond with rude and impolite comments. I'll chalk it up to perhaps youthful exuberance and level of maturity. Regardless, as you know, I am all for HSR in California. However, its poor execution is beyond frustrating. However, I bet I live closer than you to the eventual Merced to Bakersfield segment and so I will conveniently ride CHSR before you, my friend.
@@davidjackson7281 I doubt you’ve ever set foot in California, bud. And, every single one of your posts is anti-CHSR and identical to the posts of the anti-rail trolls. How come? Are they paying you?
This great can’t wait to ride
yup about 30+ years from now
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they will never sit.
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@@lioneljones6484 I would love to live in a culture where we care about what our grandchildren inherit in 30 years, and not just in our own immediate selfish interests. Invest in the future!
NICE WORK California High Speed Rail Authority! Keep it up! It's really great that we are thinking about how to diminish the environmental issues and even fix the environmental impacts of the highways. Worth the price tag! Get it built!!!
Long overdue! Can't wait to get a ticket to ride!
Great, now start building it.
Nice to see some progress on this. People in the US tend to underestimate the impact of a sustainable form of transport on an economy. Look at Japan, China, Germany, France. Where economic development around the modes of transport has been very impressive. This will bring California closer together and hopefully provide an example for the rest of the US
California has sufficient density for HSR, possibly Texas, Florida, and Illinois, but outside the northeast corridor America does NOT have sufficient density elsewhere. HSR is expensive to build, to get the most from the huge investment, requires many trains per day of at least once per hour services from 7am to 9 pm. To run that many trains requires a very large city metro with a population of seven plus million.
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The transport available is sustainable.There are lots of fossil fuel sources available
The sooner that Gilroy-Merced can be started, the better. The whole Central Valley portion between Merced and Bakersfield is basically shovel ready, and the whole stretch between SF and Gilroy is literally almost already done (via the Caltrain blended system). Crossing the Pacheco Pass is going to be hard and expensive, so the earlier a start, the better.
Bakersfield to LA is a whole different story, hopefully that doesn't take too long 😓 although I think the route from LA to Palmdale has been approved?
Palmdale-Burbank will be approved next year IIRC, LA to Burbank is the section that has already been approved.
The BART San Jose berryess to silicon valley tube project won't be finished until 2030.
That's fantastic news. Good to hear it! This project is gaining more momentum every time I watch one of these video updates.
It is interesting that at 2:00 this video depicts the Branham lane and Monterey road intersection as a GRADE crossing. This is already a hazardous crossing with only 8 Cal Train and occasional freight traffic. It would be madness to have a grade crossing here for HSR. Build it that way and there will be collisions. At 110 mph they will be really bad accidents.
Speed limited for hsr in residential for noise and safety reasons
They said 110mph is the max speed. Doesn’t mean they will be doing 110mph at grade crossings.
There will be constant interruptions to service, just like with Caltrain. This is a death sentence for HSR
@@jonasask8847 Ya, they will have to get rid of the grade crossings eventually.
This will be grade separated by the time the segment opens. You can find it on the city website.
Great work and thanks for the updates!!
I'm a little dismayed about the lack of grade separation for HSR along the Caltrain ROW. A single car/train crash could disrupt traffic along the entire HSR system. The Caltrain corridor becomes the system's operational Achilles heel.
I don’t think there was much they could do, because like in the video, a lot of the railroad crossings are like, right next to crossroads, which isn’t really easy to grade separate besides just elevating or putting the train in a tunnel, unless you have a better solution
@@thejoechannel6912 About 2/3 of the crossings between San Jose and SF are grade separated already, including most of the major cross streets.
There are already plans plans to grade separate more streets because CalTrain is planning to increase frequencies up to 10 min. Most grade separations have been made by creating underpasses for the streets which is much less disruptive. Some smaller residential streets can be dead-ended. But 100% grade separation is still far into the future.
So ultimately, any grade crossing for HSR represents a big liability. A single car collision in Menlo Park could shut down the HSR system for hours. Why spend $100 Billion to build it and not spend a billion or two to grade separate the entire thing? That doesn't make sense.
@@bryanCJC2105 I see what you’re saying, but what I mean is like where there’s a 4 way stop right next to the crossing, like how they had in the video. I’m not sure of another way to grade separate that instance other than dead ending like you said, or elevating the railroad or putting it below ground in a cut or a tunnel
@@thejoechannel6912 In the example in the video w Monterey Rd and Branham Lane in San Jose, there are three such large and busy intersections along Monterey Rd that are just like that. The City of San Jose is already undergoing studies of how to grade separate these particular intersections. I imagine a 4-way road overpass would work best. The one in this video is the rare busy crossing still not grade separated. In fact, these three are the biggest and busiest crossings still not grade separated. Most are small residential or, in the case of Downtown San Mateo, Burlington, Redwood City, and Menlo Park, they are secondary downtown streets. There are a few similar but more rural crossings in San Martin and Gilroy where Monterey Rd (the same one in the video) closely parallels the tracks. I imagine in these areas the HSR alignment is elevated but I'm not sure.
Agreed. However, one stopgap solution is an operational one: have most HSR trains terminate at Diridon and limit HSR traffic to SF to like 1-2 trains every few hours.
This is amazing progress! Please see it through to the end! 🙏
really excited for my grandchildren to see this project come to life!
Maybe your great grandchildren.
Yeah, because you nor I will ever be able to ride it.
The difference between this project and the one in Eastern Mexico is astonishing! They are polar opposites when it comes to management and planning.
You really, really need to do more research on the Mayan Train before you make such bold comparisons. Watching one B1M video does not make you an expert on the subject.
They're both of quality, don't compare
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@Javier Valencia - LOL, you have never been to this area I take it. The Southern Santa Clara County section will have amazing views of the country side and Santa Cruz Mountains.
This is wonderful. I can hardly wait to ride HSR.
I love the ambition that California has, to over come the typical US rail deficiency.
Keep up the good work!
1:55 WHY IS THERE AN AT-GRADE LEVEL CROSSING FOR A HIGH SPEED TRAIN
can't wait to ride this in 2079
Less planning, more building! Just give people shovels and a wad of cash if you have to! The faster we get to groundbreaking the less NIMBYs and oil funded politicians can throw wrenches in the plan.
Keep it up! Trains are the solution!
This is great, but, the “enclosure”, I am not sure about. So, you’re on the train, and you can’t see anything because you’re in an above ground tunnel? Really?
Hopefully they do it, I can visit my mom in Merced from Redwood City. I am from Spain and our train system is amazing. You can literally go to all the country, cities and neighborhoods by train. Madrid for example has another world under the streets.
Our transportation simply sucks here… it’s taken way too long for this to finally get started. We need expanded light rail that branches out into every neighborhood, so that we can take that mode of transport over to Diridon.
Can you have light rail in every neighborhood? I thought light rail is meant to go fast
@@DengueBurger Light rail provides service like a subway, but at a less frequent rate and less capacity. It is great for urban centers that are sizable, but not large.
Light Rail is a joke in San Jose. Buses can do the same exact job for far less cost, more flexibility, and don't need their own dedicated space that takes up valuable and finite transportation space. But the people need their romantic fantasy rail systems....🙄
it'll be done by 2060 if it ever gets done
About time we get high speed rail!
Awesome progress! This is a huge step, super excited to see it
I hope it will go through 🙏
The narrator voice of this video is so pleasing! Hopefully one day I can run and edit videos for this channel 🚀🚀🚀 California Vision 2035 ~ Where anything is possible
Great presentation. Good luck with the naysayers.
Great milestone! Get to work on geotechnical analysis and design.
Can someone please explain how building an enclosure over the tracks helps with "visual impacts". This project is just so comical.
Great to see this project taking very deliberate action to limit its environmental impact.
If CAHSR ever needs footage of San Jose Diridon Station, I'd be happy to give them some ❤️ I love visiting this station with my video camera and photo camera to watch the trains.
I hope I get to live long enough to ride and enjoy the benefits of this transportation system
You have to be kidding me. This will never be compleated.
decades of waiting, same progress keeps making videos!
Grand Central isn't even the busiest intermodal hub in a 20-block radius within Midtown Manhattan, so that analogy isn't great.
@@malachaicarter4338 No denying that, I just think it's funny that people overestimate its significance because it has the word "central" in the name, which is just the name of the company that built it (New York Central). Other than a temporary diversion a few years ago, it hasn't even been used by Amtrak in 30 years.
@@malachaicarter4338There are suggestions to connect Penn with Grand Central, but there's a lot more pressing needs atm.
No wonder the cost is rocketing high. I hope California will complete this project sooner than FL and Tx.
They have been talking about this for years. I bet it will take 50 years to build this thing
*45 years to plan it. 5 years to build it.
Building isn't difficult. Getting the money from governments and convincing the locals that a couple years of extra trucks on the highways is worth it is the difficult part
We so need this across the US.
connect Montana and Wyoming
nice
cant wait for this to be in place hope it eventually goes down to fresno,bakersfield, los angeles
Good.
Awesome ! Merced is the kick off , the goal is Los Angles , lets get it done .
Does this mean that the main portion is going to be built along i-5 because that would make a lot more sense than anything else.
No, the main portion will be following the 99 through the Central Valley, connecting on the Central Valley cities together.
Some of the intersections in San Jose (i.e. Branahm Lane) will be grade separated by the time the segment opens.
We need this badly
Aw man... kinda sucks that you won't get a view of the grasslands while on-board the train, but I understand why they needed to do it. Maybe instead of a full enclosure though they could have something like a long cage? Would probably be more cost-effective than putting a long metal roof over the whole thing.
Wish they'd run a Gilroy-Santa Cruz extension to this. Not much to ask, is it?
I hope diridon actually has soem dense housing built near it instead of beign surrounded by parking lots and old industrial parks
Goodness wouldn't that be nice.
CHSR may be late and over budget, but I still think it's a good project which will bring severe economical benefits to the entirety of California
Hopefully this gets completed before I retire
What will happenWikk to the Union Pacific's rail freight operations between San Jose and Gilroy. Will they use the existing track? Or will they use a new freight track built along the double track passenger track? UP can't operate double stacks and auto rack cars under the Caltrain electrification because of inadequate vertical clearance.
Coming soon, in the year 2525. I can't even imagine how long it will take to complete just that 13 mile tunnel. I looked at how long it takes to build subway sections that are shorter than that. For 13 miles, I'm thinking once construction starts, just for that section will take 10 to 15 years. :(
Boring through a mountain is much different than boring under a city with utilities, property rights above etc.
@@elliotwilcox6900 plus, multiple boring machines can be used, starting at different points along the construction to speed things up.
@Zaydan Naufal I'm sure he's tunneling in Northern Europe right now
How is the rail going to be serviced in Los Banos with a cover like that?
Dear God, I hope never to have to drive on 152 again once this is done. It's not even so much the mountain area, it's just the traffic in and around Gilroy that is an unmitigated disaster on holiday weekends.
I am with you, the traffic is no joke for that section.
Will there be a hub in Los Banos?
once these hubs are built and servicing, it's up to the cities to really market themselves to visitors so that those hubs are actually worth visiting.
Great
Wonderful. It will pay for itself by, 20NEVER
I just want to know when I can get an inexpensive and fast trip between LA and San Diego.
That's still a very long way off. Phase 1 (San Francisco to Anaheim) won't be completed before 2033. (Expect it to take longer than that.)
The LA to San Diego section (which will go through San Bernardino) is one of the Phase 2 projects. They haven't even finished planning the route yet. And realistically I'd expect the other Phase 2 project, Merced to Sacramento, to be built first as that will be much cheaper and easier.
I’m in San Jose California too
shared track? might cause train delays
Why did they choose to show a hs train in a level crossing...
In most HSR systems there are close to 0 level crossings. Why did cal hsr choose to highlight their progress and future with a video of a 100 million dollar HSR train that can top out at 220 mph GOING OVER A LEVEL CROSSING. If you need a new PR person I am available.
Japanese Shinkansen trains travel through major urban areas at 165 mph…
cool
What currency is being used
Man I really hope this segment happens some day. Punching through the Diablos is really the critical path for this whole CAHSR idea to have a meaningful return.
(Getting from Bakersfield to Palmdale, then Palmdale to Burbank, is the other critical path, but that's even harder. I so wish that San Jose Merced or Palmdale Burbank had been the start of work. Either would have undeniably helpful to a large metro by itself, and either would have offered an incremental pathway to more value. The first of these would have integrated with the perfectly okay Amtrak San Joaquins service.)
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Merced to San Jose is the most crucial segment of the entire SF-Anaheim route, cause once that's done and HSR trains can run between SF and Bakersfield, it'll be just as fast if not faster than driving between SF and LA, even with the 2 1/2 hour Bakersfield-LA bus bridge. Then there'll be the big push to get HSR to LA and Anaheim via Palmdale.
Bakersfield to Palmdale closes the passenger rail gap and connects HSR to LA via Metrolink's Antelope Valley line, but the travel time would be just as fast or slightly faster than the current bus (2 hours on Metrolink from LA to Palmdale and 23-minute estimated HSR travel time from Palmdale to Bakersfield plus transfer time at Palmdale).
@@ChrisJones-gx7fc Your points are reasonable. I don't have a strong opinion about the sequencing of subsequent projects given that Bakersfield Merced is built first. Sound like you do, and you've thought it through, so I'm liable to agree with you. (I do have questions about that bus bridge - I haven't ridden it but have doubts, a priori, about how smoothly bus services scale under growing demand. And presumably, if a fast train got riders to Palmdale, a shorter bus bridge would be organized to take people from Palmdale to key points south such as LA.)
I was more lamenting that starting with Bakersfield Merced, assuming that segment even operates, will likely spell the end of CAHSR development. It should never have been the initial segment. Connecting cities where car ownership is customary and is required for last-mile mobility, the initial operating segment will have very low ridership. I expect that the fiscal damage to the whole state - already unavoidable - will prompt voters to end the HSR ambition by ballot measure, just as they started it.
@@ramanshah7627 the San Joaquins had just over 1 million riders in FY2019, and 710,000 in FY2022 (up from 434,000 in FY2021). So the ridership is definitely there, especially for a 200mph high speed train which is bound to attract more ridership as people want to experience that. Getting it to Merced and Bakersfield connects it with existing transit like the San Joaquins and ACE to Sacramento and the Bay Area and buses in Bakersfield to LA and SoCal.
The Central Valley segment was built first for a number of reasons, but I’d say the biggest one is because it provides the most benefits to the entire state as soon as possible. If HSR had started in the Bay Area or SoCal, it would have left out the other half of the state. Having the initial segment link transit in both halves allows more people to experience HSR sooner.
A majority of Californians support the project and want to see it completed to SF and LA, so if it were to reappear on the ballot I’m pretty confident it would still be voted to keep going. Like I said, linking the Central Valley and Bay Area with high speed rail will make it competitive with driving, and set up getting it to LA and Anaheim.
I am kind of with you on the bus bridge though. I’m from SoCal and spent four years of college in the Central Valley, and never once took the train home because I didn’t want to do the bus bridge. Establishing the all-rail journey with Metrolink at Palmdale could potentially increase ridership more, but many already do the bus bridge and it’s fine, and as I’ve found out the all-rail route with current Metrolink and HSR via a transfer at Palmdale would be about as fast as the bus, or slightly faster.
No grade separation up north?
No, because they're reusing Caltrain track to save money. (Imagine the cost to buy up land to build new track! That's not cheap real estate.)
Keep the dream alive
110 mph grade-level crossings? Check Bright Line in FL 70 mph crossing collisions
Crazy drivers
1:54 Why isn't this grade separated?
i just don't understand why you guys didn't make underpasses or overpasses in the city for HSR. there will be people who will try to evade lowered ramps when HST comes along and there will be fatalities.
This is great and all, but when will this section start construction???
When they get the appropriate funding.
The current unrealistic and UNFUNDED estimate to build from SJ to merced is $23 Billion. They still are years and $ billions from finishing the Merced to Bakersfield by 2030. Optomistically, this section will start then and be done by no sooner than 2040 and by then cost $35 Billion (based on 5% annual inflation). Tunnels are very expensive, difficult, and time consuming to construct. That's assuming a huge increase in the annual funding rate to $3.5 Billion compared to the current $1 Billion annual funding. Where is the money going to come from?
@@davidjackson7281 Same place where the money is coming from for endless highway construction and widening. And no, lol, gas taxes don’t pay for jack. If they did then we wouldn’t have all these crumbling bridges and highways all over the place!
@@TohaBgood2 Good to see you commenting my friend. Time will tell about the level of funding won't it. Please remember, TohaBgood2, I am very much supportive of HSR. However, I am skeptical because of the consistent lack of committed funding and its bleak future outlook to pay for a $105 - 150 Billion project within anyone whose remaining lifetime is less than 50 years.
When hell freezes over
hell yeah
Is this the same one that will go to Los Angeles?
Is there any way to reduce the risk of bird strikes without that ugly enclosure at 6:11?
Don't let those "BIRDS" stop a $59 BILLION project.
The CDFA didn’t give a crap about any of the birds they slaughtered. They didn’t test them they just killed them. So hearing this guy say oh the wildlife has to be preserved. All I heard was blah, blah, blah. All of a sudden they care about preserving the environment? Idk, i don’t have a crystal ball, but I foresee them collecting the funds and maybe even starting it, but something is going to stop it like oops they forgot the kangaroo rat vacations those parts every 3 years. 🤯🤪I just made that up, but that’s the type of crap these politicians spew.
Can’t wait to get back $120 billion in economic output from the HSR line in 2035 when it opens
The 171 mile route saves :90 and no economic impact.
My only concern is the 13 mile long tunnel. I hope they can built it quickly cause otherwise that I’d going to be a nightmare roadblock.
the reasoning behind it (at least that I've seen from CAHSR) is not having to move the tunnel boring machine as much. Instead of doing a series of short tunnels that require the machine to be moved multiple times, you just do one long one, starting from one end and just keep going.
@@ChrisJones-gx7fc Good point perhaps but notice how they never discuss the prohibited projected cost of the tunnels.
anyone know why can't we just utilize the ACE corridor instead to get into the bay area....? They already have plans to expand within that area. I would like to know if we would save a lot more from tunneling through this path. Also, strengthening the ACE corridor would help develop cities such as Livermore, Pleasonton, Tracy and Stockton. In this current plan, only Gilroy will benefit from growth. There's some plans to extend Caltrain all the way to Salinas, so what's the point?
Altamont Pass eventually replaces Pacheco Pass.
@@m3x910 I appreciate your insightful comment. Help me to understand a little bit more why using the ACE route is prohibited. Are you saying ACE can not run more trains than the current commuter eight trains per day because UP won't let them? Legally passenger rail has priority over freight though it is not enforced. I don't think Altamont Pass is a route that freight uses that much. I think optimizing the route can be done with proper dispatching.
Brightline shares the FEC line with freight. I concede you have made a good argument to cause me to reflect. Freight can run on off hours. Having 20+ passenger trains should be doable. ACE is working with the cooperation of UP and ATSF to increase their service on the Sacramento to Merced route for transferring to the San Joaquins train and the CAHSR segment. This approach I advocate will help until the funding is available for the Pacheco Pass. CAHSR as you know is $10 Billion short of completing the IOS without fed funding.
Regarding electrification, a diesel (possibly hybrid) train would work. The complete line doesn't need to be electric high speed rail. Top speed of 110 mph with some 125 mph track would reduce the trip time 50% with an average speed of 80 mph. By progressively upgrading ACE more people will use it sooner to complement Central Valley service rather than being dependant on waiting decades more for an expensive Pacheco Pass route to be built.
CAHSR has got themselves boxed into an impossible position of delivering a 2:40 trip averaging 188 mph for 500 miles. By blending more miles averaging 80 mph with the other half averaging 160 mph the journey could be done in a realistic and cost effective 4:15.
Will there be buses, BRT, trams, streetcars, light rail, bike rentals, scooter rentals, and other facilities at all the stations to make it possible for people to get to and from the train stations?
If not, then you're not gonna get people out of their cars and onto the train.
I think the goal is as time goes on redevelopment around infrastructure like this will adapt accordingly. There are people in NY and NJ who have never driven a car - why? Because their towns were built around the train and other public infrastructure. In time there will be a similar shift like this in California too. But it is a chicken and egg problem. There is no demand for trains because there isn't infrastructure for it - lets face it California was built around the car and it will take a while to change that culture. But as $6/gal for gas gives way to higher prices, hmm... never ever becomes a maybe I'll try it, to "wow, why didn't we do this sooner"? But it may be 20 years to see this shift.
You're right that's a huge problem, but there's actually a decent amount of this stuff already, at least in San Jose, and specifically with Diridon Station, the whole Google complex thing should be a massive improvement. Also, there's just such a large amount of sheer demand in the Bay Area that even if most of the people still live in SFH suburban neighborhoods, there will still be plenty of people in areas that could really stand to benefit from this. I love in a fairly car-dependent part of San Jose that isn't really close enough to Diridon Station to benefit directly, but it's not hard to imagine it being redeveloped over time if the train infrastructure gets built up. As the crow flies, the distance is very modest when compared to places in Europe and Asia that have extensive rail networks.
Diridon will need way more parking.
@@r.s.4672 The whole point is to move away from car dependence. If we keep building train stations that people have to drive to and from and pay for parking at, and there's nothing interesting within walking distance of the train station, then nobody will ever use the trains. The problem with a lot of train stations in the US in particular is that we basically build them out in the middle of nowhere and make them a weird alternative piece of what would otherwise be a car commute. If you look at successful commuter rail systems, they all take you right to where you want to be.
Jesus Christ...I'll be 38 when this thing is supposed to be fully operational from SF to LA 💀
will this be the longest drilled mountain railroad tunnel in North America?
yes
Can not wait to see what the tunnels cost.
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6:11 you mean a tunnel?
San Jose to Merced, one way only.
There needs to be more grade separation at intersections..especially for hsr....at grade crossings for trains are already pretty unsafe and the hsr will only make it even more dangerous
If they didn't insist on tunnels through the Pacheco pass this thing could be up and running already. This is the train that needs to be built, San Jose to the Central Valley not a train to LA. And certainly not a train from Bakersfield.
Hopefully by 2035 we can use this