Season 2 | I NEED to talk about it
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- It's time to ruin my already tragic reputation by coming on the internet and daring to say that I do not hate the series and its much improved second season amidst the torches and pitchforks.
Segment selection
00:00 - Intro
03:22 - Season Overview
14:41 - Season 2 Thoughts - Krátké a kreslené filmy
While I personally don't like the show, I'm not going to bully someone for giving a neutral take on the show
That's a good way to live pal go on you
Nah I agree
If someone’s isn’t neutral that’s when you attack
@@darius4405 no one should get attacked it’s a cartoon it’s not a big deal I’m really glad some people can still be neutral
@ajmcomixonline8824 exactly. That's why I hate Twitter
Velma is the show that gave me the superpower of "Not watching things I know are going to make me upset" joined with my superpower of "deleting twitter" and "avoiding discourse"
I feel so...free
Lol congrats.
Hey as long as you don't mock what you don't watch go right a head buddy
I actually watched the first few episodes just to form my personal opinion, and while I didn't outright think it was horrible, I knew for a fact that I was not going to be happier watching it and I did not feel like wasting time and emotional investment to see if a show gets better, so I dropped it and moved on.
Though I still don't have the power of deleting Twitter or avoiding discourse.
@@el-karasu6070 that's fine that's perfectly fine I'm glad you gave it a chance at least and are not dumping on it. Focus on the shows you do like and talk about them it's a lot of fun
so real
The thing is Scrappy being a lab experiment turned monster isn’t even a new idea. Scooby Apocalypse did it years ago, but they actually did something with the idea outside of shit on the character.
I really wish we could get some kind of original take on him at the very least, but it really doesn't help that Warner seems to only allow him to appear if it's derogatory and denies positive portrayals that are proposed. 🥴
The fact that the only modern Scooby Doo thing with scrappy in it that doesn't completely shit on him is Scooby Apocalypse of all things is crazy
Scooby Apocalypse.
I think the comic was published at the same time as Be Cool Scooby Doo…ironically comic was more hated than the show (though part of me wish Jim Lee would contribute to the show as guest artist episode…imagine Velma and Daphne drawn as 90’s X Men style character).
Honestly, if the plan was to make all the fans want Velma dead just so the punchline at the end of the show would be her actually dying, I would respect that.
It was genuinely funny that they did it, I couldn't help but laugh considering so many people have said they wanted that to happen.
I honestly can't believe Scrappy Doo came back in Velma of all things
Well, we've seen weirder and wackier things to expect in most TV Shows and/or Movies than this for example.
I'd think any place would want him back if they could make of fun him first :(
@@unripetheberrby6283 True
Ya but they used the publics dislike of him to make a really freaky end game bad guy
I'm not
Scrappy was the best thing this show created cause he is writen in a way that the characters should´ve been since season 1, tongue and cheek jokes about the franchise without sounding mean spirited or being edgy just for the sake of it. i mean sure his story its dumb but thats because the show is dumb (a bad kind of dumb), but there is not much difference from Velma´s Scrappy and the 2002 live action Scrappy
if the entire show was written like him i think we´d only have people mad about the absence of Scooby-Doo and some people complaning about their skin color
When All About Scooby-Doo and More made another video recently about the Season 2 Finale, I was also shocked that Scrappy-Doo made a comeback in the most bizarre way possible if you know what I mean.
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 considering that Warner only allows him to be showed as a joke or a villiain i wasnt exacly surprised, what got me is that he wasnt written as a completely annoying and unlikeable character. like they could´ve done so many dirty unfunny jokes but actually it was kinda respectful considering the way he´s allowed to show up on new stuff
once again Scrappy saved the Scooby franchise when they were in a dark age
@@cabecadeprego8772 To be fair, he was already starting to be less annoying in the 1980s Era of Scooby-Doo
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 i was talking more about the Velma show itself, everyone there is eitheir annoying or an a-hole if not both
so when i saw they were going to bring Scrappy that is a target of every type of deprecating jokes i thought he was going to be a big punching bag with little to no respect but he was actually pretty funny and a charismatic villiain
Ya I think adding scrabby was a good choice to he was fun. Felt like a call back to the 1st live action movie
The only parts I liked from the show is Uncle Scoobie's unmasking feeling like something from the actual Scooby Doo and all scenes with Scrappy I just love the guy
I find it funny Scrappy body swapping plan would of never worked since he's "Invincible"
Except ir would of, cause as we see he can take damage, meaning yes removing his brain from current body is very possible
*Title Drop*
And you just made me imagine Omniman descending from the Heavens, OHKO-ing Velma like a balloon full of guts and furiously demanding “GET MY SON’S NAME OUT OF YOUR F*CKING MOUTH!” ... thank you 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly this show has always just felt filled with hatred, the writers just don’t like Scooby doo while the Animators wanted to make a good show and it feels weird because of that difference
Velma dies? Ding dong, the witch is dead!
~Which old witch?~
~The Mindy-Witch!~ 😆😆😆
🎶She's gone where the goblins go, belooow below below 🎶
There's gonna be a Season 3! 😂
@@moarmy6779 really it’s Season 2, apparently they ordered a Season 1 but split the episodes into 2 Seasons, so they could say “we got 2 Seasons, the viewers must want more!” I’ll be stumped if they genuinely get renewed because folk wanted it and not because Mindy pulled another trick out of her predatory ass 😒😒😒
I was surprised that Scrappy was brought back and people were praising the pup (I’m in the party of Scrappy is a good pup) on social media for his return.
All I ever see in my comments or on Twitter is hate for him, so I'm like... where were all the people that supposedly love him after this a week ago, because 99% of them were not at our table!
@@Scoobytopia😢 I always liked Scrappy all along 😅
@Nightman221k I will always advocate for my special little boy 😤 I just wish people were more genuine about liking him because most of the people saying they did this week definitely did not say that a week ago
@@Scoobytopia True it will fade over time and they'll go back to hating as the internet does , I was surprised to see this sudden turn but then I'm remembered why they are praising him.
Personally regardless if Scrappy wasn't in Velma, I still like Scrappy and consider him the start of the punky child character or prototype of the gutsy, fearless. Plus I enjoyed Scrappy in 13 Ghosts and the New Scooby Doo Mysteries.
@DragonStorm545 maybe if anything comes of this, people higher up can see that there are some of us that genuinely want to see him come back someday in a positive way!
It's cool to have an actual breakdown that isn't just ripping on it
So tired of the Scrappy hate!
I mean, I like him NOW...
The internet: nah, we like Scrappy now.
He killed Velma!
He’s such a good boi!!! 😇😇😇
15:16 You know that meme where a white board says Scrappy Doo was killed by a rival drug cartel In the streets of Brazil
I don’t know why that scene in Mystery Inc always reminds me of that. Cause they treat him like he died.
I feel like this..
No Scooby, no watch. He's my favorite character, and I definitely understand why WB didn't want him on this show.
I personally don't feel that's a given. I'm basic. My favorite characters are Scoob and Shag, but just having those two in a series doesn't automatically make it good. I hate the ones where they chase Scrappy around (and I like Scrappy), and I'll never be comfortable with Get a Clue since I feel it's not a good Scooby-Doo cartoon, but a surprisingly good cartoon if it was a different I.P. And it could have been ANY IP. Yogi and Boo-Boo could've done the same show with no alteration.
Multiple things put me off watching it for me and then I find out the writing is bad as well 🥹
@@BrookeABee Somehow I feel if this show wasn't tied to an IP, and was a direct parody OF Scooby-Doo like shows, it would have been seen as just mid or forgettable in some way. Like I said in a longer post, might I suggest searching for Dicktown (Dick as in slang for detective, mind you)? It's similar in concept, but the writing is much stringer and the references are more sophisticated.
@@mightyfilm I shall have a look thank you :)
I dislike this show not because i hate it like a lot of people in the internet, but because i thought that a mature take on the Scooby Doo formula can work, that some of their ideas are interesting and it has good animation and i like some of the desings, but the show has underwhelming mysteries, cringe humor, unlikable characters and the Scooby Doo elements are just half heartedly add in.
I thought that season 2 was an improvement, but not by much, a big chunk of the season was about the romantic drama and a "science vs religion" debate and i don't care for eather, honestly Scrappy Doo was the best part of the show.
In regards to Scrappy i have mixed feelings because i though that he was cool and funny in the show, but also is just another of the only 3 ways Scrappy is show in modern media, a blink and you miss it cameo, a mean spirited jab at the character, just make it evil.
In this show is Sophie their version of Scooby Doo ?
@catqueen235 I really like that they foreshadowed her being in the military. The reveal would have been better if she had also indicated that she had problems being properly acknowledged before.
Ok the brains using the baby seats was decent humor🤷
A Halloween special? 😭 I can’t take another installment. But also I need you to do a “In Defense of Scrappy” video. 😭
I probably would, but I think there are at least two if not one that are already out there, and genuinely really good, everything I would say would probably be the same as those, and not as good!
@@Scoobytopiait would be neat to hear what you would have in mind if you were to pitch an idea for a Scooby movie that includes Scrappy. I would be interested to know what you think since you’re my favorite Scooby Scholar to watch videos from. Plus I’m curious to know what would be the best way of doing it like if it should be a continuation of the Scrappy from earlier shows and movies or if a complete reintroduction or if, like Flim-Flam in the 13th Ghost movie, if he should look like he’s grown up a little. That and how to iron out some of the things that keep fans from liking him (like probably him repeating hid catchphrases too frequently 😅)
@Nightman221k I haven't given it too much thought before since I would never be in the position to make it happen, but I don't think it would be that hard to re-introduce him and keep him balanced, because the 80s trilogy balances him enough that nobody really has issue with him there, so it can be successfully done if you're careful!
did a drinking game with this one, with every joke that dont land i´d take a shot
i was VERY wasted by the ending
“Yoinks, Scooby! Like, how did you get alcohol poisoning?”
That was probably not a good idea-
@catqueen235 took a small break mid season
Mindy Kaling really hates A LOT of things, more importantly Scooby-Doo. No matter she's not in Inside Out anymore. AND rumors say that SOMEONE's shutting down Rooster Teeth, because they really LIKE this take. At least the creators of Teen Titans Go! had made some people laugh AND made the Mario movie a hit. If it was me making an R-Rated Scooby-Doo, I'd make it mystery focus, but still put the REAL meddling kids, AND THEIR DOG, charming and squadding heroes in a dark and flawed world. In other worlds, my show would be a cross between the Mystery Incorporated show and Persona 4 Golden. I wish I can show Max hot to make kind of that show out of love instead this... but it's just me.
Kaling really wasn't involved with this season anymore, and there's no internal conspiracies about people liking or favoring this show. This season did make the mystery the focus along with four friends solving it together. There's not much more they could have done to improve the show as much as they genuinely did this season, but it's never going to please despite the improvements.
@@Scoobytopia So a faithful Scooby-Doo adult show will remain fanfiction... but my idea's still good, right?
@marcusyates3044 an adult Scooby series that's darker with focus on mystery is something I will always support the idea of
@@ScoobytopiaSo, she wasn't involve in this Season but still voiced Velma?
Doesn't it technically count as being involved?
Just curious.
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Yeah, I don't know what they're even talking about as Mindy Kaling was heavily involved in both of these seasons.
I completely respect the opinion of scoobytopia this show and while I don't care for it myself and will continue to poke fun at it for its plot holes, inconsistencies, and poor portrayals of characters I'm glad to see someone who can acknowledge it's positive and negative traits, without being incredibly spiteful and 100% neutral!
I really appreciate your more chill approach! I mostly just don't care about this show, already got too much stuff on the watchlist, but the internet is just so very focused on spreading negativity! We need more people like you fr
I wanted to go into the second season as neutral and fresh as possible, and was genuinely surprised that the series showed genuine improvement, and listened to as much of the constructive criticism as it could have potentially done under the circumstances to make a much better series. It's hard to go in without bias this time and not enjoy this one. Not that it ultimately helped the show since most people won't forgive its initial crimes of existing.
@@Scoobytopia what I hate the most is that the loudest haters out there probably didn't even watch it lol... also, just in case, don't let internet trolls get to you, man! 💗
@My_fandom_corner I feel like this won't last as more than unlisted for 24 hours, but that's the risk 🙈
This guy gets it I fully agree pal lets cut the negative crap and let's spread some positive thinking
I don't mean to be a dick but if a show is dogshit what is wrong with saying it is dogshit?
Sorry to hear the negative feedback from this video is getting to you. Please don't go anywhere. There's 18,000 of us who would miss you if you left.
What is with Modern Scooby making Scrappy seem like Hitler meets Jason Vorhees?
Warner executives seem to only allow him to appear if it's derogatory, so writers that are interested in writing him that way are the only ones that get through. The 13th Ghost movie was supposed to have a positive portrayal, but wasn't allowed for this reason. As for why they want to write him that way, for whatever reason they still have the massive hatred for him that started two decades+ ago and seem to think that's the only way to handle it.
Not the best comparison, Jason was an innocent driven to violent revenge after the death of his mother, also the only deaths he causes are people who keep thinking an abandoned camp where gruesome deaths happened are ideal for either a new camp or making out, if people stopped disturbing his rest no one would die. And Hitler is f*cking Hitler 😒😒😒
I saw they again destroy Scrappy-Doo.
Ehh How they massacread my boy
Everyone loves using that meme from the Godfather I just wonder how many knows what it really about.
@@seankidwell8208 I watched The Godfather and I know what this quote means, and it fits here perfectly. And besides, why wouldn't I use it when we have such garbage as the Velma show.
@PrimalElf That's good, I was just wondering how many people know their meme.
@@seankidwell8208 The Godfather has been in pop culture forever and there are plenty of memes that almost everyone probably knows him.
Those "velma suck and heres why" videos are the bane of my existence. It always has the same talking points, too. Im so glad you have something unique to say, even if this show isn't top quality.
I'm sure there are a few that probably have some good points, the first season had some legitimate severe problems worth talking about, but I avoid watching them for that very reason. The second season is definitely not the pinnacle of anything and won't win anyone over, but they clearly at least listened to constructive criticism and tried to do better under the circumstances, and I found it interesting to talk about. (even though I lost subscribers and got called a bad person all day for it... lol)
@Scoobytopia it's a shame that people can't seem to understand a different opinion when it comes to shows like Velma. Yes, it's bad, but also someone can find something good out of it, like, for example, I never knew that the animation was so fluid and generally really good. Will I watch the show? Probably not, but still, you can find a nugget of good even in the worst cases.
i adore this animation style but OML i WILL be seeing scrappy in my nightmares for the next few weeks
i love thorn being old thats so cool i hate how certain ppl instantly started going "look how they masacered my girl"
She looks bomb as hell, I don't know why people are acting like she looks bad lol
18:39, That's technically a very good point, since its trying to be its own sepearate thing and tries not to ruin the Scooby-Doo Franchise
I am happy this season wasn't as horrible as season 1, and I like your indifferent take.
I did predict some improvements
@catqueen235 I guess its fair enough to me
Agree on both statements
It didn’t get a second season because people hate it and they complained, the studio heard it and did what the audience wanted for one of the first time in years.
Why is it ok to portray Fred Jones as an incompetent, stupid, weak, outright moronic person based on his wealth and his race? Why didn’t they make Fred black?
I mean, the only reason it got a second season is because they ordered 20 episodes/2 seasons upfront, like most other animated titles such as Harley Quinn these days. It had 2 seasons set no matter what from the time it existed. I mention that fact in the video.
Fred has been portrayed a number of different ways over the last decade to try and give him more to work with, by the end of the 2000s they even were poking fun at the fact that he didn't really have his own catchphrase like the others, which was only rectified by Guess Who more recently giving him his "Hold the phone!" phrase. Mystery Incorporated from 2010-2013 wrote him as autistic with traps as his special interest to give more to him, 13th Ghost went into his background and why he's fit to be leader by default after feeling challenged by Daphne. His characterization in Velma doesn't really come from being rich, so much as from having a mother that didn't properly care, raise or teach him anything, down to his belt never being properly fixed, which is explored in the second season as he has to come to terms with his mommy issues. Between feeling the warmth of a mother for the first time via Diya, and even having a crush on what he believes to be an older woman, he has to confront how he was raised by an absent mom, accept that she wasn't as perfect as he thought and idolized, and finally is able to grow from this after standing up to her spirit. It's okay to portray him as such because it's not a very unusual storyline, or even all that different from any other series or film trying to give a fairly blank character an arc to work with. He has equal daddy issues and a rich/powerful parent the same way in Mystery Incorporated, just as exaggerated as in Velma, but that's never an issue there for anyone.
Btw Scrappy doo is cool now like to see come back to kill Velma series protagonist
Justice for Scrappy. Scooby doo franchise would've died in the 70s without scrappy doo shaking up the show's formula and definitely needs his own series
This is your BEST thumbnail yet bro! Nice job
The show may be unignorably ties to Mindy Kaling’s humor which is primarily not-my-thing but what I will compliment always is… the artstyle is genuinely quite pleasant and I enjoy the character design work. It’s very much like what I hope for with adult animated comedy shows as it’s a great balance of detailed, bubbly, and still works for the spooky parts. It lends itself well to various aspects of the show.
Hands-down, the fact that her stink is not really on the second season, and she seemed to not give a fuck anymore and just showed up to voice act someone else's words made this season so much better. It's a lot easier to appreciate how good it looks when you're not being so beaten up by the words you're hearing.
@@Scoobytopiathat’s good to hear!
oddly enough i like this drastic take on fred it kinda allows a gateway like mystery inc on ways to give his character more personality for future adapations
Velma isn't as bad as people are saying?? I have watched it. It was a painful experience
And like I said, that's valid. Even with the improvements this season, it's still not going to change anything for most people right now.
Given how Warner Brothers really wants Scrappy to be seen in a negative light, it makes me wish that he did appear in the Halloween episode of Be Cool Scooby Doo (he was cut because of time restraints) and the cancelled Scooby Doo And The Mystery Pups since they could've helped him be seen more positively.
you know I really commend you for putting your own opinions out there despite what everybody else is saying. It takes real guts to take on the internet mob, especially on a subject such as this! Good on you man! I've been trying to get my first video essay talking about why I love the live action Scooby Doo movies so much off the ground for a while now, but I think some of my anxietys keep creeping in and making me scared to just talk about the things that I like even when there are still people out there who heavily disagree with it.
Despite the fact that everyone is still mixed on this, the 2nd Season did try to get better, which is fine by me
Will I watch Velma? Probably not, but I do appreciate the neutrality you have shown and given. I too want the hate on Scrappy to stop. Give the little guy a brake WB!
If nothing else comes of this, I hope someone higher up sees that we care about the little guy!
To be honest anyone who pay attention to the shoe would've figured out uncle scoobi was Sophie based on both the shoes and what was known about project Scoobi. Also the warner execs need to grow the fuck up about Scrappy. I might not have been born in the 80s but from the scooby doo projects that featured Scrappy; I always thought he was okay. How a franchise gets ruined is through burn out.
That said the twist reveal of Scrappy, kinda didn't 100% see that coming. Nor shaggy's grandmother being alive.
I truly don't understand why the executives deny him appearing positively, but will allow it if it's derogatory, it's just kind of weird and spiteful at this point.
Even the bad, I kinda find it cool that they would kill of a main character but the ghost thing kinda feels weird
9:44 "If I wanted to date someone who'd rather risk their life than communicate, I’d be straight."
Okay, this one is funny!
At this point, we often don't know what to expect these Days.
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 ngl I lol’d
@@Nightman221k Huh?
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 not gonna lie I laughed out loud
@@Nightman221k 🤦How did I not get it the 1st time?
Years of waiting for a Scrappy return and that is what we get? Meh. Having him as a positive character would have saved this terrible show, at least for me.
It's kind of sad and frustrating that when he's requested to use positively, it's denied, but derogatory is what gets approved for him to come back, even if I think this season up until that point shows massive improvement and listened to constructive criticism.
@@Scoobytopia problem is that now Scrappy is associated with this messy show, and knowing WB I doubt we are going to see him anytime soon in a "canon" show or movie. I really liked his comic version, that was a rated Scooby Doo story that was worth adapting as a show, but of course we got this lame show. Good thing is that at least people are happy that Scrappy killed off Velma and are praising him for that, this is the only positive thing I can see coming from that. I always loved Scrappy, I'll never get the hate.
I find it amusing that so many of us genuinely love him and have been advocating for his return, but suddenly the people that hated him a week ago supposedly love him again after this, as if they weren't the ones saying he should never come back. Hopefully someone higher-up sees that for potential future reference if nothing else.
I've only watched first 6 episodes of season 2 so far, and it's great
I don’t hate this show I just don’t want to watched personally but I like that you do a kind take on this show because it dose get a lot of hate, thank you for that, also I love scrappy doo and I want to see more of him with shaggy and Scooby ❤
anyone harassing you over this or any of your videos is insane. sorry you have to deal with freaks
Still not having a great time almost 2 weeks later, almost making me want to just stop making more videos and maybe even take the old ones with me 🥲
I love you scrappy doo
If Warner Bros has a heart, I would love to see Scrappy-Doo appear in the sequel Scoob! 2 either as the main antagonist again or only for a short cameo! And he should be voiced by the same actor who voices him in Velma, Jason Mantzoukas, who I think did a great job on voicing Scrappy and we could imagine what Scrappy would’ve sounded like if he was included in other Scooby-Doo media!
This actually sounds interesting. I totally agree with your final thoughts. I have never really gotten the hate for it because it really seemed to bring the Scooby doo community together and like you said it doesn't take away from previous shows and movies. I wasn't a huge fan of the first couple of episodes because of how mean the gang seemed to be to each other but after watching your review I think I'll give it another try. I really want to like it.
I never really finished the first season because it kinda... idkn, it felt a bit messy and undecided if it wants to be a sketch comedy show or something with more plot (and those two elements seemed to clash with eachother more often than working together). But i kinda wish i continued it, the Scrappy reveal seems kinda amazing (even if, the slander is absolutely absurd at this point, little guy literally did nothing to deserve this...hm, interesting paralles with the show here)
Also, honestly, i really appreciate the whole idea of making a show without Scooby that can focus on the rest of the gang. I love this dog, i really do, but sometimes it feels like Daphne, Fred and Velma aren't appreciated enough (there are things with good balance there, but also Scoob! basicaly shelved them for the most of the movie for no good reason)
as a lifelong fan of Scooby Doo I really don't like or care for this show, but I do like you and will watch anything you put out 💜🖤
There's a proper Scooby-Doo video coming very soon I just have to finish editing 🙏🙈
@@Scoobytopia my guy I've seen all your videos and I don't plan on stopping, just try not to stress yourself out
You are actually the first person I've seen praising the show. While I personally disagree with you, going against the masses and expressing your opinion takes courage. Respect.
Thanks for having a nuanced opinion on this show. Some people online are just insane with anger and seek an outlet
I am glad that it got better, I had no desire of watching season 2, but now will probably do that
Its funny that its been nearly a Year since you did a video about this Series.
So cool to see a whole channel devoted to Scooby Doo. I wanted to ask a fan what did you think of the movies animated by ‘Tokyo movie Shinsha’?
I adore those movies! Some of my favorites. I don't plan on talking about them myself because there's not much I could say that hasn't been said, but they continue to hold up and age as some of the best of the best.
When you disagree with the bandwagon, you're doing something right. Great job, don't let stupid haters get to you. Seeing positive in something bad is always better than seeing all bad in something bad. Hate-watching gets annoying to watch. I watch things to analyze, and it seems like you did your own version of that, regardless if people agree, and I feel your view was compassionate and thoughtful, unlike everyone else, and 100% respect that.
Edit: And it is NOT right to bully ANYONE this way, especially for something so positive and optimistic as LIKING something, but that's how people are, unfortunately. There are very few pieces of fiction in this world that are all bad, and I heavily argue that there is nothing that you can't learn from.
I kind of wish I hadn't a little bit, getting called a bad person all day eventually did make me cry for a while, but I couldn't help that I found it interesting to acknowledge the show listening to constructive criticism and trying to improve under its circumstances, regardless of if it would ever win anyone over.
@@Scoobytopia Dude, don't let it get to you. People are going to hate you no matter what. You have to just be yourself or you lose all your personality, plus will always attract people with less substance than you. Formulate your opinions, keep your own ideas, and I promise it'll pay off in the long run. PLEASE don't get cut up and cry about stupid internet trolls/buttholes who don't even know you, for having an opinion.
I feel awful for you though and I want to give you a hug through the screen. I watched the whole video and liked it, which I've never done on any of these Velma "analysis". 💗💗💗💗
People are disgusting, eh?
Was that Jim Cummings as Scrappy? What the heck was he doing here?
Thanks for being sensible. 🙇♂️👏
It's Jason Mantazoukas! He surprisingly has some recognizable Scrappy in his voice at times.
Sounded a lot like Jim Cummings. Thanks for the info!
Im a scrappy doo fan, but i still find him a grear villain in different series universes
Never thought I'd see you talk about this show
I talked about the first two episodes when they came out, but had to keep it unlisted for a long while outside of the playlist! Didn't expect to talk about it again until this season not only showed improvement but had the twist at the end.
@@Scoobytopia It has been awhile since you talked about it
I watched all of season 2 last night because I got really high to get through it, and i like it better than season 1! xD
Could not agree more. I loved the growth in group dynamics and characterization. And I think the call backs worked so much more this season. It’s not an adaptation for everyone but I enjoyed it for what it was.
I loved this psychotic version of scraapy
I agree with everything you said. This season was better than the first and I liked this mystery more. I loved the Sophie twist and the unmasking. But yeah why the scrappy thing. But I do like how they fleshed the characters out this season. But what we really need a continuation of mystery incorporated from the original writers.
You know what i think is quite strange? The only positive representation of Scrappy i have seen in years is puppy treats in B and M Bargains 😂
I love your love for everything Scooby! And true fans of the show can appreciate reimagining the basic formula of the show. At the heart of every iteration is an appreciation for the original. I am grateful that the Mystery Gang is still relevant, after 55 years.
Thos show sounds so chaotic and my head is hurting from all the plot twist. I'm not hating the show but really it's just aounds so confusing.
It doesn't really feel so chaotic in context, even when binge watching it. The twists play out over an entire season and make more sense with how it's explained in the show proper vs 11 minutes.
I can’t believe the show has Scrappy but no Scooby
Tbh, I like the character design of Velma and I don’t dislike the show but I only wish that the show had a better storyline.
Hey Scoobytopia it's me. I haven't watch the Velma series as a whole, I saw episode 1 and 2 before I stopped, but if you have neutral opinion of this show and it's second season then don't worry I'm not gonna go all angry mob on you. it's your channel and I won't judge you.
I'm losing subscribers like crazy over this video, so that might already be my fate anyway 🙈
I’m glad you made this cause every other review was just upset that it wasn’t scooby doo but I did like season 2
Thank you so much for giving us a neutral to semi-positive take on this show! I honestly love the show, it's fun seeing someone take big risks with how they adapt and play with some of my favourite characters of all time. Honestly hearing and seeing people pick þe show apart constantly and nitpick without looking for anything to enjoy is exhausting, which has led to your videos on Velma being the only other videos I've been able to bring myself to watch, lol.
And regarding the Scrappy Doo thing, for what it's worth, as a fellow fan of Scrappy Doo, I personally found this Evil Scrappy to be a lot more likeable, enjoyable, and even somewhat sympathetic compared to Scrappy from the first Live Action movie.
I will NEVER understand the Scrappy slander. He was my favorite as a kid. I remember buying movies with my Nana and hoping he was in them. I truly don’t get the hate.
The 80s trilogy movies he appeared in were his best appearances in particular, he's a perfectly good character when utilized properly like in those. I don't think I'll ever fully understand why it got so bad for him.
@@Scoobytopia Scrappy always brings a smile to my face. It’ll be nice when and if he gets his redemption arc.
I must say, though, I enjoyed seeing him in this series. Yes it was weird seeing him as this scary rabid beast, but in a weird way I still enjoyed his inclusion. This series will always have a target on its back because of how different it is from the source material, but I’ve found myself actually liking it. It’s definitely not my favorite, but I’ll give them their flowers for trying to be different. I will always prefer the source material though. 😂
@truemdl I did find myself kind of happy to see him again even under these circumstances just because it's been so long. Even if it's not quite really him.
@@Scoobytopia that’s how I feel about the series as a whole, tbh. The characters aren’t really themselves and could be its own thing if they didn’t use this universe. I get this weird feeling of gratification from watching something in this universe though. It’s weird seeing Velma, Daphne, Fred, and Norville in this adult cartoon, but it’s cool at the same time. I like what they tried to do with being different. I’d love for them to have another go at an adult cartoon but more accurate. It would be a must watch for me. 😅
the Halloween special is just gonna show Velma dragged downstairs right?! RIGHT!?
It's a bit sad but nice that animators get to do what they want in these shows that get stapped early.
Also, it would be kinda cool if they finally bring Scooby-Doo into the show in that Halloween special finale, at least once.
I'm really surprised that Scrappy Doo appeared in the second season of Velma.
When you said that part in the review of the whole series I was sooooo happy to know that he was back and then it happened to where he is the actual killer and once again turned evil or bad. I too am unhappy that Warner Bros keeps doing this too him. I would LOVE to have two pentions about who hates Scrappy and who still likes him. Find out if he is still LOVED by lots and take that to Warner Bros and show them that he is loved by lots more then hate.
Hopefully, if anything comes out of this, the higher ups that are biased against him see there is interest in bringing him back lovingly.
I actually enjoyed the series overall. Like at first with season 1 I was upset before watching it because Scooby wasn’t going to be in it but as I continued to watch I became really invested in it. The mysteries definitely reminded me of Scooby Doo just on a higher level since people were actually being killed. Then getting to season 2 I enjoyed the romance with Velma and Daphne as they figured things out with them as a couple and individual identity. I’m definitely sad about the ending just because as Velma and Daphne finally admit their love for each other and get things situated in their relationship, Velma dies which could cause Daphne to have trauma of losing her first/true love 😭 I hope that their is a season 3 and that the Halloween special can bring her back so they can be together.
I love your video, and I love that Scrappy Doo came back, sadly like a villain again though.
As for this show, I saw like 3 episodes of season 1 and stopped. I just didn't care, but thank you for briefing season 2 to me.
I appreciate that your stance. This shows that we dont always have to agree on our feelings of media. We shoildnt be cruel to each ither abiut this.
Finish season 2 last 2 episode last night finally came across someone that appreciates the show AND Scrappy literally when season 1 ended I was making ideas of how they can introduce either Scooby or Scrappy thinking Norvel (could adopt a puppy in a ep. To help them cope with killing Fred's mom for self-defense) and how they were in the episode Norvel could say I think I'll call him"A pup named Scrappy" end credits next episode😅 this is the definition (season 2) to be careful what you ask for I'm happy that we got Scrappy just not they put him in a villain roll again
So many literal laugh out loud moments in the show. The comedy is clever and biting; very well-written.
I didn't find it particularly challenging to just try to enjoy it for what it is, no expectations.
I do wish scrappy would of servive to seek his revenge once more
It's nice to see Scrappy in something for once other than a cameo in the 2017 Wacky Races it's a shame Warner Bros treat him like crap.
By now I feel like the next metatextual step for Scrappy should be Classic!Scrappy being framed for murder as the Monster!Scrappy and playing detectice to clear his name
It doesn't sound like WB is ready yet to be kind to Scrappy, but if they can jump on the Gen X hate train they can catch the Zillenial pro-scrappy wagon eventually.
I honestly think this show has more to offer then Family guy or any MacFarlane cartoon. people just don’t like to see characters they’ve known there whole life change and it leads to hate. Nostalgia is a crazy thing. Btw I do like this show.
I’m gonna hold off on watching this video til after Spilling The Milk finishes the season! It’s more fun watching along with them!
I do agree with you on this but I don’t know what to say about this show it is definitely something maybe it will open up a door for a darker and more mature version of Scooby-Doo I think it would be better
So the thing with project scoobi, I am pretty sure it is a reference to the theory that the reason Scooby can talk is because was some government experiment and the gang is on the run. Which like a talking dog can be a good spy because no one would believe the one telling the details is a dog, but super solider that can restand explosions? I am curious if this was always the plan because it seemed they did use feedback but also project scoobi was shown in season 1 and this seems like a twist they would build around. To me the scrappy hate being basically canon is more annoying. I wasn't a fan of scrappy but I think the hate is annoying and it being referenced in official media is bad pandering. Rather than have a new scrappy with taking feedback and trying to do good instead scrappy is stuck as a joke of "see how awful he is"
You know I would do appreciate your more open Outlook on the show in my opinion the show could be better but it just doesn't work for me and that's fine if anybody else likes to show that's fine but in my opinion I don't care for the show honestly I could care less about the characters but writing and I could care less about everything
I still haven’t watched it because honestly I don’t think it’s going to be my thing.. but I don’t get the hate it’s called Velma not Scooby doo. And now with how season two ends I’m a little interested and curious so I may give it a shot. So in my opinion it’s done it job at leases. Oh and plus everyone is talking about it so ya it’s definitely doing what it intended to
I am the same with this show I really like season 1 and the episodes until 8 I hate what they did to my boy scrappy tho.
Thanks for a new video they are always great. 😊
Another one coming hopefully within the next week 🙈
10:18 The classic Scrappy quotes are back!!!!
This was a massive improvement over season 1. All the edgy jokes that pull me out of the story were replaced with jokes that made more sense for the characters and situations. The characters were also more tolerable (less eating out of garbage bins, less prejudiced, etc) and the love triangles/squares were reduced.
By this point I accepted this is not the Scooby gang/Mystery Inc, so the characters being pretty bad at investigating or working together was not as much of an issue as in season 1. The mystery felt more coherent too. Like most good mysteries, this time it was possible to guess who was who ahead of time.
I was really surprised they decided to kill their main character at the end of the series/season. It would be a really unique way to end this series if they decide to go with it.
I like the Thorne design, my main issue is threefold:
1. Why is she aged up with a daughter while the Mystery gang is at best the same age and at worst aged down, could they not have just made used Amber's design and called her Thorne? They clearly have no issues with making characters look wildly different than their original designs and that one wouldn't even be as big a leap as, say, Shaggy to Norville. More of a logical failing than a full-on issue.
2. Where are Dusk and Luna? Those three are inseparable form both a Doylist and Watsonian perspective!
3. Why is THIS our first appearance of any of the Hex Girls in over a decade? This isn't a good introduction for newcomers and I feel if we had something more akin to the originals then this wouldn't be as egregious or rage-inducing for the haters. In other words, Haunted Highrise shoulda come out and would've actively improved the perception of this show.
There's also the matter that while she isn't a bad design, she may have been intended as one. Considering how meanspirited this show was and (while drastically toned down, thank god) is to some extent, I wouldn't be surprised if they designed the character with the intention of her being either "ugly" or poorly received just because they seem to revel in spite. Like, task failed successfully.
I assume they wanted her to be able to be more retired rather than current, which makes sense in ways. Dusk and Luna probably would have made the cost go up in terms of actors. This isn't our first appearance of the hex girls in over a decade, though, they appeared in a really great episode of Guess Who not long ago! I don't think any of the designs of the show were done with mean spirited nature, the art department of the show has clearly cared and put in above and beyond effort ever since the beginning even when not required. And this season isn't really hateful or mean spirited anymore.
@@Scoobytopia I'll admit I didn't bother with guess who. Didn't scoff it off as automatically trash, it's just even if it was astoundingly well-written the art style is such an afront to my eyes I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.
Though you make a good point, I think that aspect of my point still stands as considering most people skipped on Guess Who as well for the same reason; so I was factually wrong on the objective statement, but the intent of "no one has really seen the Hex Girls in a decade" isn't.
@@Scoobytopia oh, also this is more of a hypothetical, perfect world idea. I mentioned Doylist vs Watsonian perspectives and I'll bring it up once more:
From a monetary, Doylist view you are right on the matter of hiring Dusk and Luna's original VA burning a hole in the show's metaphorical wallet, but from a Watsonian view having the real world interfere with the quality of a piece of art still harms the art and should be seen as a valid point of critique FOR said art.
Eg. Many of Netfilx's shows get cut short to 2 seasons, for the sake of this example I'll mention LWA and Centaurworld as those are favorites of mine. While I understand the showrunners had to work with the two seasons they were given, and did the best they could, I think it's valid to critique the shows over the fact they have many aspects underexplored or rushed do to this. It is a genuine, artistic flaw of the work, brought upon them by corporate meddling (no-pun-intended).
@joghnythegurue2710 it's a shame we didn't get the movie that was going to feature them with new songs, although it would have used the Guess Who style anyway like the sister movie we did get.
@joghnythegurue2710 Scooby has been fraught with corporate meddling since Zombie Island, working on Cyber Chase was such a nightmare that the team that made those four iconic films quit over it, so I guess it's unfortunately just something the franchise will always be dealt, on good products or bad
love or hate this show
the fake people taking screen shot of season 2 tailer and adding fake text of bad or very fucked up jokes and acting like it was real part of show pisses me off
It's kind of crazy to me that some of them are so obvious and people immediately jump to believe it, because they expect the worst from the show, which is fair given the first season, but also shows the lack of interest in representing reality
@@Scoobytopia yes i am also not a hater of this show it just ok, but F** scarppy hate let our boy be happy again