Looking for the looker EXPLAINED | Sam Harris Waking Up App
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- This is my fourth video trying to help with the "Look for the looker," or "Look for the one who is looking," meditation instruction, that gets so many people frustrated and confused over on the Sam Harris, Waking Up app.
Each video covers slightly different content and even hearing the repetition of ideas expressed in slightly different ways may help. Here is a playlist to my videos which most directly deal with this instruction:
• How to "Look for the L...
The notes I used for this video are now available as a free download over on my website sonamhoani.com/offerings/ If you've struggled with these meditation instructions I recommend taking a look ;)
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00:00 Other resources
00:40 The original source
01:52 How NOT to "Look"
02:44 How to "Look"
02:58 The goal
06:10 Practice Level 1
07:57 Challenges
08:35 Practice Level 2
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Really good explanation video appreciate it ☺️🙏🏾
Thank you! 😄🙏💛
Thanks so much, Sam needs to invite you on the app! I do think this will help me.
Thank you Suzanne! That’s very kind. One day maybe 😄. Personally I’m a big fan of necessary context 😅 Or in this case… just a little more explanation 😂 🙏 Wishing you all the best.
Would it be fair to say that the thinking mind is "loud" like 110% but thinking is really a sensation like any other? Because of the "loudness" it feels like the ego/thought is primary? That is, we're fundamentally the world/experience but since the ego/thought is so incessant and intrusive things appear like sensation are in service/subordinate to the ego? I wouldn't say the sensation of an itch is me, then can I confidently say that a thought I'm experiencing isn't me?
If this is true, how then when I'm not meditating, the talking watching interactive me still feels like it's "primary". Or do I need to recalibrate and see this too as just another experience?
NOTE: I'm a faithful user of the waking up app and I find it incredibly frustrating when Sam snaps his finger. It's a bit demoralizing as I'm a long time user of his app and I have yet to experience or recognize non-dual nature. Totally get your snapping finger reference and thought it funny.
Great video, Sonam!🙏 thank you
Thank you Paul 😄🙏 I’m really happy to be back!
Could you please kindly shed some light on the " togal practice" of dzogchen and how it is different from " trekcho/pointing out ".
Thank you for the question. Hypothetically I would if we were speaking more casually and there was no one around to hear us 😆. But, I must apologise because I don’t want to write or publish anything above my personal pay-grade/qualification. And in this instance “Togal,” is. I’ve only ever first-hand received instructions that count as Trekcho. The necessity between the two has always been largely unintuitive to me. And the differences I have been taught between the two has also largely estranged me. The Togal I can remember deliberately used a lot more specific visualisation (or imagination) techniques for one to start relating or seeing the formerly solid world as more dream like or illusory. Of course this process also happens within consciousness so itself is advised to be taken as the direct path of recognising all these mind movement as “non-dual,” nature. In my own practice plainly contemplating and investigating the emptiness of all phenomenon has felt akin to Togal. But in actuality… and in a lot of ways with Dzogchen and the many, many words and skilful means they have for getting you to recognise nature - the recognition is always the same one, that frees all. And I presume this is why, as I’ve moved around teachers, I’ve always received Trekcho teachings first without indoctrinating or immersing myself long enough to get to more Togal. I hope this helps 🤞 When I was first getting into Tibetan Buddhism this distinction troubled me also! (I know how hard it is to find answers about this form in general! (On the internet)) 🤣
@@SonamHoani Thank you so much. It was extremely helpful.
Hurray! Thank you. I wrote quite a bit there, so I’m so happy it was actually helpful! 🥳🤭
I think there is a looker, and there IS and not just THERE. Meaning it is a subject, can be a whole and apart at the same time. I think it is the one that people call God. Everything in those meditations is considered as going to oblivion, lost in something, not being able to think, flowing inside nothing. Which is abnormal itself, if you find yourself in a state of oblivion, something is wrong don't you think? And if you don't, then why not to start to question the answers? Maybe you have the wrong ones, who said that if something flows 4k years it must be truth? Nobody, its just, an object that lived so many years, has itself created a belief similar to axiom which common people do not question because they just believe in it. Go beyond your common sense, maybe that common sense is a paradox itself...
Hello , I hope you are doing well.
Lately, one of the seemingly biggest hurdles which I have been personally been facing during practice is that of - boredom and dullness.
This automatically disincentivises me from following my daily meditation routine .
Is their something that I am doing wrong or is it just plain laziness and lack of discipline on my end. Kindly advise upon how you deal with monotony if at all you face it .
Due to this feeling of boredom - I prefer doing informal meditation (off the cushion) way more than formal meditation sessions. (For eg: 1-2 minute meditations during break times in between study sessions, meditating while looking at the horizon/ tree tops while outdoors. ...... etc.).
However, it seems that without longer sessions- my progress seems to be awfully slow .
Thank you. I've filmed you an answer. I think I'll have the time to upload it tomorrow (for me).
@@SonamHoani Thank you so much. That is incredibly kind.
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Thank you for this. I think this instruction is the one I struggle with the most. I sometimes I think I have understood it, but I can't be sure if I am really understanding it on a fundamental level, or if it's just conceptual and I'm just thinking that I have it.
Is there some signature that sets apart these two outcomes? Is there some experience that is a sure sign that I have got it right?
Thanks again :)
Honestly, I think the useful thing to say is that you keep haphazardly glimpsing and then eventually you become more sure of the goal. Sometimes I think all this structure is a bit unhelpful. I have to believe some “mystical,” spiritual types just take this as standard nice meditation because they don’t revere the insight so much.
It’s non-conceptual and very spontaneous in a way every other way of life never really is. It’s the only time consciousness doesn’t feel contained by something. It’s like the dropping away of all your beliefs about life into the pure experiential nature of the sensations we call life…
I don’t know if it’s helpful to look for what it IS like because it’s not graspable…
😅 I really hope SOMETHING I wrote there is useful
Thank you Sonam 🙏🏽 this is helpful. The Buddhist monk you mentioned, was it really Mingyur Rinpoche? You had his photo up 😊
🤫😉 It’s quite a small thing the language problem. But, a lot of the monks don’t speak fluent English due to the obvious reasons and then in the hall there’s so much devotion. I’m sure the monks have great realisation. But my partner and I speak two languages and both think we can spot the difference between a language barrier and the choice of “simple,” instructions. In times it has seemed our fellows meditators have not realised this is what’s happening.
I have attended retreats with Mingyur Rinpoche. Most of these have been online (and then sometimes there’s technical difficulties too!) I have really noticed his English get much better in recent years! And this has really helped me understand him better. It’s also evident in recent years that he does now have much more English language at his disposal for communicating and sharing profound wisdom. (Previously his communication had a strange rigidity to it that could only be explained by a language barrier… but this was never made explicit 😆).
Do you have an instagram account? 😊
Hi! I’m so sorry I don’t have one anymore. But my partner Saga Johanna youtube.com/@SagaJohanna/videos has one that I pop up on from time to time or at least she has the same life trajectory as me depending on what you’re looking for 🤣🙏☺️ instagram.com/sagajohanna_/