Hornby RR HST R3608 - Review
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- Hornby RR HST R3608 - Review
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This is the re-tooled Lima intercity originally released in the early 1980’s
Here I look at the 2019 Railroad version compared to the 2013 super detailed model, let's see how they both perform on running and quality.
This RR R3608 HST is DCC ready and only requires one decoder for power car as dummy has no power or pickup capabilities.
For further product details refer to Hornby.com
Yep, it’s a Lima. See if you can get hold of a 80s Lima set and compare it with that. Comparing 80s Hornby & 80s Lima is comparing apples with oranges. 👍🏼
The tooling may be ex-Lima but Hornby have upgraded the model with better lights as well as a basic cab interior with a new much quieter motor and a PCB for DCC compatibility. I have a 1995 Lima HST in the swallow livery as a train set and the power unit doesn't have lights or a cab interior and the pancake motor is much louder in my experience. I hope that Hornby will do the Intercity Executive and the Swallow liveries in the future on this revised model.
perfectly said absolutely..
My favourite of all time. It was this very HST that got me interested back in 1970's. :)
Nice this will certainly get you buzzing once more 👍😉
Hornby hasn't retooled it, it's the Lima tooling which was better than Hornby's from day one, most of the railroad range is old Lima tooling now with better mechanics, electrics and in some cases printing
..... and I’m guessing at substantially more £££££‘s!
Thanks Jamie yeah absolutely 👍
Plz forgive me and I don’t wish to offend if I’ve got this wrong but as I understand Hornby now carry the Lima branding and now release Lima branded items that are made through Hornby.
My mention of Lima tooling Solely referees to - This being Lima railroad tooling made by Hornby. 😬
Really appreciate your support and great conversation 👍
Garry
@@cheekytek Hi no offense taken, Hornby do carry the Lima brand aswell as many others that were either brought out or rescued, Bachmann did similarly with Mainline and Graham farish, if you're interested in loco hauled mk3s try and find and old Jouef one although HO scale imo they are the only ones who modeled it correctly until the recent releases by Oxford rail
Indeed, I remember seeing Lima HSTs on layouts back in the 80s and thinking how much better they were than the Hornby versions - especially the cab fronts. Lima got the curves of the cab and light clusters pretty much spot on, whereas the Hornby model was always much too square. And the lights on the original Hornby model were very badly done, as the clear plastic mouldings never actually fitted the curvature of the body (that is visible on the model you have here). It's nice to see the Lima tooling getting another lease of life! Great video and review :)
Thanks to all Yeap definitely agree to what all has been said 😉👍
Let’s all be honest whoever designed the 80’s Hornby HST obviously had a giant wedgie at the time 😂
Will be interesting to see what other Lima range Hornby May think of releasing 🤔👍
Love this video! Brings back so many happy memories!
The first train set I ever remember getting was the hornby clock work set in the 70s
The first electric train set I ever had was the 125 back in the late 70s, maybe very very early 80s and so this model really holds a special place in my heart!
Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video, I’m now on the hunt for this set!!
Thanks Sam
Certainly brings back the memories yes and why we collect these models as they takes us back to happy places.
Except for BR sandwich’s they were never happy 😆
Cheers buddy
Garry
Great review👍 Goes to show how good quality and value the Railroad range has become...we know there are those who swear blind anything but the super detail versions are inferior, however at approx £110, I would rather have 2 pairs of the Railroad version running round my layout than just one marginally better version costing £250. Hornby need to expand the Railroad range further as there is now a huge market for accurate looking budget models. It has gone full circle...updated Lima models are now becoming the way forward. Well done Hornby & great video👍
Thanks buddy and I totally agree
Yeah I’m the same with rather a budget loco which performs the same as the high end as much as I love super details but as you said it’s the steep cost which is out of my reach
As said yeah it’s great to see Hornby embracing this side of the hobby
Have a great Christmas buddy 🎄
All the best wishes Garry
Great video. The Hornby Railroad HST is based on the Lima tooling, which was far superior to the Hornby 1980s tooling.
Absolutely Hornby own the Lima tooling which was railroad range and yeah absolutely superior from that time but now branded under Hornby so at least there listening 👍
Thanks again
its an amazing model and Hornby really have made the old Lima tools look like an entirely new mode, i'm very tempted to get one and fit it with directional lights as you can get directional lights for lima HST as on ebay you can get directional lights for Hornby/Lima HSTs for like £5. I already have the set of 2013 ones with DCC sound bt you can never have enough HSTs!
Absolutely HST heaven
The old Lima is what this release is in every way -except the dummy has no pick up facility just a rolling chassis
The old Lima dummy car does have pick ups which the new body will fit directly onto the old Lima chassis
So again there is diversity in swapping.
Definitely a great set 👍
Your modeling environment is amazing!
"Great locos, used to watch these at New Pudsey station back in the 80s as a child. Smokey diesel fuems and loud turbo whistle and 2 engines on one train. Bonus. Nice Models!!
Thanks Grant, yeah all certainly brings the memories back 🤔 😁 The good old days 👍
Hi Garry, I concur with Jamie Douglas. I went and got my Lima HST out and sat here comparing as I watched the video and came to the same conclusion, it's just the old Lima one on a modified chassis. I can hardly believe all the discrepancies in the original Hornby. Glad I got my Lima ones in the 1980's. I also noticed that your 1980's Hornby one has the wrong side frames on the power bogie, I have no idea where that one came from but it's not HST. All that said I might be in the market for one. lol. All the best, David.
Hi David
LOL they are nice..
Yeah that is correct its merely the old Lima HST release under new Hornby -
Ironically your old chassis will actually fit directly on to the new version body creating a dummy car with pickups so you have the advantage over many of us for directional lighting.... so would be a better HST set..
The old Hornby HST's I've had 7 of these and for some reason they have all had them horrible bogies sets - think this was at production at the time and nothing like HST bogies..
All the best Garry
This is my first comment on some of the reviews, and I am thinking of upgrading my HST set, correction going to buy the railroad model, thank you for the review a very keen Western Region enthusiast.
Hi Thomas
Many thanks for taking time commenting
It’s a nice model for the price
All the best Garry
I have to proudly confess that I am a Western region steam man taking a liking for kings and castles although living near Exeter in the 1970/80s, class 47's 50's and HST's where the backbone of West of England trains.
So as far as HST's are concerned I have two lima power and dummy cars in blue and grey and an orginal hornby power car with the guards compartment in it. I hope to get the railroad set and buy enough coaches for a London train and NE/Sw formation
HST Sounds awesome buddy - unfortunately the coaches will be your bigger cost - But very nice regardless.
All the best Garry
Thanks for a great video! Well done on the staying on the seat trick! I fell in love with the HST last xmas. I have 17 of them now. Working my way through upgrading the lighting and servicing the old motors but they run great. Would love a super detail one but the new model clearly fills the gap between the original and the expensive. You are a very lucky man!
Thanks Malcolm 17 HSTs think your the lucky guy 😁
Me jealous no.. lol
This one certainly hit my expectations and is a great performer- certainly one for your list 👍
Have a great Christmas 🎄
All the best wishes Garry
It’s a lovely looking model Garry and as you say it’s barely noticeable the differences between the premium and RR editions. A man of your talents will easily make any necessary modifications to bring that new 43 up to a solid 10. I’m a little jealous of it. Happy new year to you buddy. Paul
Lol 😆 thanks buddy I must admit it’s a cracking model - probably the best railroad item I’ve come across-
All the best Garry
Gaz, it's great to see you looking more like your old self again. Keep punching kid and you'll be back on top. The review brings back memories of the 80s with debates on which was best, Hornby or Lima. Back then we were trying to make a " model railway" using toy trains where as now we are using well detailed model trains even with the budget ranges. Seeing the two running side by side you can hardly notice the difference. A couple of hours modeling on the 2019 edition will bring it even closer to hifi. Happy New Year to you buddy, regards Bobby 'T'
Thanks Bobby
I was lucky to see a Lima 70’s tooling which is exactly the same but now branded under Hornby as they have the Lima railroad tooling in there palms
This is on Susannah’s channel Milden hall
Yeah a complete upgrade from the 80’s Hornby model though so for Hornby it’s fab to still get a bargain loco these as equivalent to the super detailed version
Definitely a trip down memory lane 😉👍
Trying to find me but not there yet..
All the best for the new year
Garry
Great video Gary, I have just ordered this model and having sound added. really looking forward to receiving and running it. Thanks again for the video, regards Malcolm
Hi Malcolm
Many Thanks for your comment- certainly a nice model for the price 👍
All the best Garry
Love the HST ‘s, was always a first love of mine and sad to see it being phased out. As modellers I am sure it will never die off. Great model Gary, have a great Christmas mate, cheers, Chris
Yeah it’s heartbreaking seeing them diminish. But always love them beasts 🥰
Have a great Christmas mate 🎄 with all the warmest of wishes
Garry
Very timely, Garry. Thanks for sharing. I'm a huge HST fan, but other than last year's Swallow Valenta's, I haven't been able to get the more recent DCC versions (certainly not for anything close to a sensible price!). Been watching out for this Railroad release since they announced it, but hard without seeing them myself at shows or local model shop. Seeing your side-by-side shows that it's good enough, for me. Unless you're really up close, the differences aren't there for a model that's only just over £100. People will always gripe, but I think Hornby is trying to find a middle ground here, and doing a good job. Will definitely be getting one! Cheers, Iain.
Hi Iain -Great hearing from you.
Absolutely agree, That it looks like Hornby are trying to accommodate the middle market and to be honest that's where the gap is..
It did bug me that there wasn't any close up shots of it or extra detailing information.. and again i was trying to find more about it before release..
But all said - it's a cracking model, it's definitely a complete release of the old original Lima HST under Hornby labelling with the addition to DCC chassis in the power car but nothing in the dummy..
Cheers Garry
Aren’t you comparing an original Hornby model with the ex Lima one ? It’s not a new tooling as such but it does have a new motor. It does look very good . I have a Lima InterCity Swift one that still cuts the mustard . Great review . Hope Hornby do an LNER one . I’d be tempted at £110 but not at £230. Same with intercity executive. I’d be tempted at the lower price but not higher. . You are correct the original 1977 version is now well outclassed . HSTs fantastic
I am yes but this is what is confusing as its now released as a Hornby product under Hornby based on the original Lima product..
so this is a Hornby on Hornby review but on the Lima tooling - lol So confusing when I did this lol..
under close inspection there are a couple tweeks based on the original Lima HST as I visited Susannah at Milden Hall as she has one to compare to.. we actully did a livestream on this comparing all four models at times it was hard to tell them all apart except the old Hornby was the elephant in the room.. lol
yeap new chassis with quiet motor which had a good pull load if I'm honest..
Many thanks for your comment buddy
Garry..
Looks great in this livery, however in more modern livery’s like the gwr one. It really shows its age. Great review
It dose but we still love these beasts 😉
Thanks again Garry
Back to Basics, like that idea, hope you are keeping well, all the best Tony
Thanks Tony yeah
Hornby have reprinted the rule books lol
All is good - keeping positive 😉
Hi Garry, just caught up with your video. Great video as always mate. Hope you are doing well, and look forward to your next one in the shed 😊
Thank you for your comment, things been tough this end of cheekytek but starting to find my feet- cheers Garry
Have to say, even though it is completely out of my planned layout's era, I might have to get one anyway, purely because they're stunning and fun. Lovely stuff.
Lol 😆 there nostalgic in there own right
Cheers buddy 😉👍
All the best Gary for 2020 hope ur keeping well 🚂🚂🚂🚂🍺🍺🍺🍺
Hi buddy many thanks
Wishing you all the best Garry
This looks a great model for a Railroad range. For the price, its not a bad model as it now has better lighting and a new more reliable motor. The only thing missing is that there needs to be a driver in the cab but that is easily fixed by us modellers. I know its ex-Lima but the Lima model always seemed more accurate in looks to me as not many HST's had the guards compartment window where I lived as most of them were either panelled over when the HST's got a TGS or they were built without one in the case of the Class 254 HST units. Some still had the extra window which were mostly the Virgin XC and MML HST's which lasted until about 2004. Not sure if you read the comments but I wanted to thank you for this video and I will be getting one in the new year.
Many Thanks buddy
Funny - I had the same conversation with susannah on the guard windows because of the changes in stock over years 👍
Pleased this was of use -personally I love the model and feel it’s a massive step for Hornby - providing they realise the potential of these cheaper sets to us guys, they’d sell many more at this price than a few at a higher price 😊 food for thought for them 😉
Thanks buddy and wishing you all the best Garry
@@cheekytek No problem and thanks for the quick response. If this helps. Hornby has painted this model into GWR colours and released it into their train set. It has the same lights as this model but its a great way to get the set for the same price of these power cars. I am getting one in February to review as I have another HST that I will be reviewing in February 2020 :).
All the best
Ash.
hi Gary, great review and to see a side by side look at both of them to compare. 👍Thumbs Up 👍as always bud, have a great holiday and new year with your family and friends mate. Look forward to seeing more of your blogs in 2020. All the very best. 👍
Thanks buddy 👍
Great review Gary,I’ve seen the demise of a lot of Great Western iconic locos,The HST,s the 50,s and the Westerns,and it’s great that we can all get them in model form but not so good i don’t get to see them at Reading anymore,i remember when Hornby first bought the HST out and me and my mates all got one for Xmas,Happy days 👍
Oh happy days indeed Reading is up the road for me and seeing them as a kid god I miss them days- very sad to see these go..
I thinks this is the compromise that we can still enjoy our memories in model form..
Take care and all the best Garry
Got my hst last Friday love it got my original from my first train set great review Gary hope Santa’s good to you and your family have a smashing Christmas mate 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Thanks Adam
It’s a fab HST - TBF 👍
Christmas will be quite but hope you have a great Christmas with all the warmest wishes
All the best Garry
Good and fair review Gary , I am a fan of the Railroad range as they are well priced and with a bit of detailing can look really nice . The important thing is that they run well. Have a great Christmas ...Cheers Kev
Hi Kev
Yeah I am a fan of the newer RailRoad by far the early days had a sketch patch but certainly a lover of the price and details added to these..
Enjoy the Festivities buddy
all the very best Garry
Have a Happy & Healthy 2020 and hope to bump into you again at a show next year . Cheers Kev 😀👍🏾
Useful review, I've been thinking about getting one of these as I have always rated the old Lima body as it had an accurate (for the time) NE/SW batch body (the units that were built for Cross Country services), and until we get some super-detail accurate Mk3 HST trailers, I've been reluctant to invest in the superdetail power cars. The paint job compared to the old Lima version is cracking, and the DCC compatibility is good. The fact it can accommodate the old Lima bodies also makes it possible to buy two, refit Lima IC Swallow bodies on one and keep the blue on the other and have two HSTs for the price of one superdetail version.
Thanks for sharing the video, it's helped me make my mind up. Hornby might just be getting some of my bunce this year after all!
Your welcome buddy 👍
Great video... very thorough go-through! In the end with any train, it's about value for money. A well-done less-detailed inexpensive model is just as pleasing as an expensive more-detailed model if you like the looks and feel you got your money's worth.
Absolutely and as I see I definitely have got value for money as I see it and a treat to run around the layout.
Thanks buddy,
have a great Christmas with lots of warm wishes
Garry
Hi Gary was just watching ur videos hope ur ok and keeping well stay safe keep strong and well cheers mate adam 🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Thanks buddy 👍
Nice review Garry, i did have my eye on these and it looks like a good option at a sensible price.
Very tempted !
All the best for Christmas & the New Year !
yeah I've been watching this since I found out they were in production.. so glad I got one.. Basically these are Lima 80's tooling rebranded to Hornby with DCC upgrade..
Many Thanks and all the best over the festivities
Garry
I had mind as Christmas present 20 years ago but in n gauge, and still going today, once it’s warm up she goes a round the layout very fast. But does get hot so think it wants service and cleanliness too but very please for lasting so long running well. Some of my engine’s are 50 years old and running well, a bit of oil does wonders you know.
yeah they do like a service to keep them in top performance something I will be doing over festivities.
Well thanks for that review Garry.
I’ve been studying pictures of the new RR HST & decided to take a punt on buying one from just looking at the photos I could find online, my thinking that it’d be worth it.
A risky strategy some might say, but from watching your review I don’t think I need worry. The model looks fantastic & compared with £250 for a slightly more detailed version, I’d rather have two RR versions👍 and do a little extra work on them to make them look even more realistic.
I always enjoy your channel, great to see you back.
Merry Christmas to you all & wishing you a healthy & successful new year.
Cheers John B
Hi John
Many Thanks for your comments, I hadn't seen any reviews on these, Hence why I did - but certainly a great HST for the price without a doubt..
Just holding back from over weathering but I know I'll weaken lol..
All the best Garry
cheekytek - mine arrived this morning from Rails -😁very pleased
Hi mate nice to see you again them hst look really nice they will look great addition to your layout merry Christmas buddy and a happy new year
Hi Anthony
Many thank- yes definitely an addition.
Trying to keep at it just hard being separated from the family,
have a great new year and look after yourself buddy..
Garry
Great review. Got one for Xmas. I had the Lima version when I was a lad
it was fine. Happy Christmas and New Year Garry!
There smart Bet you wish you still had the original Lima HST as the body would fit directly onto the old chassis giving power to the Dummy car..
have fun buddy..
All the best Garry
@@cheekytek yes totally Have a great New Year.
Good video and a great to see Hornby Railroad getting some good stock out.
I’ve got to say I’ve got some original Hornby HSTs and they don’t look too good against this Lima tooled HST that is the Railroad model.
No absolutely and as you say glad to see Hornby embracing change
All the best Garry
Hi Garry, that HST looks fantastic on your layout. Have a Merry Christmas and we will catch up in 2020. Cheers Greg
As if I need more HST lol
All the very Best Greg
Look after yourself and catch you in 2020
Garry
First - lol. Not a bad option this model, not least given how expensive the super detail ones are now. Have a great Christmas, mate. 😊👍🏻🎄🎅
Thanks buddy
Yeah actually a great model considering the price - runs well too
Have a great Christmas 🎄
All the best wishes Garry
Why are the power cars missing the window at the end of the car itself next to guards door? I always remember the trains having this extra window although its hard to tell with the junk vinyls on some of 'em these days.
Hi buddy, I really don’t know the reason why they left that out - I also remember that window as modelled on the 2013 model they released -
Unless this was modification on the class 43’s over its time - 🤷🏻♂️ lol - I will ask around as would be interesting to know why 🤔
Take buddy 👍
And thanks again Garry
It's basically the Lima model from the 1980s as is much of the Hornby Railroad range. Lima's HST always beat the hell out of the Hornby rendition IMHO especially with scale length Mk III Trailers from the word 'go' whereas Hornby had those 'orrible short based and short-windowed Mk IIIs. Real kiddies trade stuff whereas Lima's model was more discerning.
Absolutely correct but under Hornby labelling with a few tweaks i.e. DCC chassis.
Yeah lol they certainly had the upper hand but hornby had the edge to mass produce hene fading Lima out.
but great to see that someone is looking at what was and released this today..
Coaches are a completely same topic.. lol
Personally I don't mind the short coaches as it gives a little scope on my layout of running these or they end up near touching nose to nose.. Plus with the ridiculous prices now days..
Cheers Garry
Great review Gary ..Have a great Christmas !
Enjoy the Festivities
all the best Garry
Great layout 👍
Many Thanks
Brilliant review! I’ve got the one from the 80s and it needs a new motor
thanks for your comment, certainly a great model.
all the best Garry
Very impressive!
Many Thanks 👍😉
Great review it looks very nice I’m hoping to get hold of the GWR one that has been done as a train set
I’ve heard that Is on it’s way so another one that may fall into my loco depot 🤦🏻♂️😉👍
I have inclines the old model would not work well on my layout but my question is the railroad one looks weighty but still not enough for my liking but what is the premium one like compared to railroad one with weight ?
I know where your coming from 👍
Okay the swallow livery I have is old Hornby - slips like mad when she’s unhappy
The 2019 RR is a lot heavier I’d say just the same as
2013 S-detail in my opinion
This RR HST has traction tyres of which I hate but the performance was out standing by pulling off as soon as I started.
What I’ll do is a video update where I will add as many coaches on to the RR version to show her brunt 😉👍
Sounds like another video on the way 😬😁😁
Thanks buddy hope this helps
Great review must say this version is good makes me very interested in investing,i have the Lima version and that is good was a great deal better than the old Hornby version all the best mate regards Marko.
keep hold of your old Lima version as the chassis will fit directly to the New body this giving you an option of adding reverse lighting to the Dummy..
as the new version has no pick ups for power..
I certainly love regardless
Many Thanks Garry
Hi Gary Thank you . i guess that you must have see me and my team on the GMRC . a Fracking Disaster. good fun as you would know.
yep the HST i have some TTS Decoders, left over from GMRC was going to put them in the railroad HST but not sure if it worth it now as only one end has power. have a good Xmas and happy new year regards Ron.
Hi Ron yeah love GMRC we where in season one the Shunter guys so a great experience even as tiring as it was to film 🤦🏻♂️ as you know
Well done too 👍👍
Yeah the dummy had no pick ups not even to add lights
But I have found the old Lima version of this new model is exactly the the same except that has copper pick ups
So a old Lima chassis and the new Hornby RR HST will marry up together
eBay May throw out some old Lima chassis - just a thought
Thanks again and all the best
Garry
Thank Gary we bib meet at the NEC Show Last year. happy new year.
The hst power cars you are saying are new date back to 1982 .I know I was selling them I at the London toy fair lima were distributed by eisenmann the following year taken over by Riko international the owners of the model chain I worked for. The models on display were hornby power cars with jouef mk 3 trailers . It's interesting to see in this year's hornby centenary catalogue no blue grey mk 3 coaches are available. The main difference between the two power cars was the roof deflector modification carried out to combat exhaust. The hornby version at this representing original production cars of 1976, the lima post 1979 mods. Hornby later corrected theirs but lima version became the modellers choice until 2008 when hornby decided finally a power car that modellers desired . But wait a moment perhaps someone will decide it's time for another model as it's not up to today's standards, the bullied Pacific , the class 50 ,the class 08 . Already we are seeing manufacturers treading on each others toes in the quest to deliver the ultimate 4 mm models. Look at the scale gauge ,will these expert be changing their inaccurate track for more scale gauge , I don't think so.
Thanks for the comments
very appreciated and for the history again very interesting by far Yeap and I agree as you mentioned.
But does show that Hornby are trying harder than other retailers to hit the middle market even reproducing this Lima tooling under the Hornby brand with such tough competition out there and they can’t be faulted for that.
Cheers Garry 👍
Great review thanks for uploading 👍
Thanks 😊
Great review they all look good a vary nice model have a great Xmas and all the best for the new year al 👍🌲🌲🐈
Certainly a great performer - can’t really fault it TBF
Have a great Christmas 🎄
All the very best wishes Garry
same to you Garry have a good Xmas and hope 20/20 is better for you all the best al 😁🎅🎄
It’s a great train, I might get this instead of the super detailed, it’s cheaper aswell!
Absolutey i really like the Railroad version as it called - having both once its on the layout its very hard to distinguish the two - my only gripe would be no lighting in the dummy - but I’ve now added simple pickups and red LEDs to it now as my latest vid explaining if that helps..
Definitely worth it price wise 👍
Cheers for the feedback
Garry 😁
Yes, hopefully they release coaches for it aswell
@@model_trains_
i use the old original short hornby coaches so I am all good there, but I bet coaches for these are long down the release list..
Hi Gary is there no decoder in the Dummy so i can not put a sound in that. thank ron
Hi Ron
Nope No DCC or electric wiring - just a rolling chassis
Would of be nice but price draws this I guess 👍
hi mate..really enjoying your videos...i just wanted to ask what coaches could you run with the hst...
Hi Allan the coaches are the old original Hornby short coaches these work well fitting on my layout..
Cheers
Gary, traction tyres, I hate. The detail looks good. Good review.
Nigel To be fair I loathe traction tyres too / hate them with passion but this I can not fault pull well and I noticed that the front set if bogies where the main pickup being quite weighed it works very well 😉👍
I still here you 😁 but it’s surprised me 😳😉👍😂
Hi Garry great video on the 125 I have an old one in intercity livery which I had to modify with extra running pick up bogies runs quite well now but as you said lighting it will be good to see what you do or have done on the early model.my model has a single white lamp in both ends but would also like to fit red LEDs for forwarded and reverse running all the best for xmas and the new year Martin
Hi Martin
Thanks for your comment - adding pickups to locos is a complete pain yeah.. mainly just swapped out the old wheat bulbs for Leds for less power drain and less heat to the body..
When I add rear lights to the new HST, I will cover what I did on the old ones - think that will be a great link to show that.
keep well and Enjoy the Festivities
all the best Garry
Just for clarification - the older one is Hornby S own original tooling and the newer one is the ex Lima ?
Yeap hornby own the lima tooling which is why they reproduced this but this is now branded as Hornby hence some confusion from the video 👍. Cheers
Hope you are safe and well in these troubled times how’s the railway going
Hi Mark
Hope all is good with you too - I’m okay had some health problems last / this year but slowly finding my feet-
Thanks again Garry
Have a great Christmas !
Many Thanks - enjoy the festivities 🎄
Nice comparison can I ask I am looking at getting back in to model railway and like the idea of a shelf railway allowing me to keep my limited work space what size is your shelf layout. Thank you
I do have a video explaining more in detail and also my channel about tab has this description lol and the most asked question.. Not a problem..
It's about 8 foot x 12 foot and 4 foot 3 inches high..
hope this helps..
All the best Garry
Nice one m8. Happy Christmas
Many Thanks have a great new year..
All the Best Garry
Great review Garry, I'm not keen on HSTs but I found this review very interesting and informative.
All the best for Christmas and the New Year.
Take care Garry
Michael
lol SO this was marmite for you then. lol
No I totally understand and there are quite a few trains that I won't buy because I just don't like the looks lol..
Look after yourself too..
Warmest of wishes over the festivities
Garry..
Merry Christmas David
Thanks buddy
Have a great Christmas 🎄
Fantastic review Garry. I remember having the original hornby HST, which is being also released as GWR variant, I was forever stripping it down cleaning the ringfield motor, pick ups etc etc etc. You are so right such scope for improvement. Did you see OOrail’s series on improving hornby 66? Exactly doing what you said. Merry Christmas Garry
Hi John
No not caught that video but will check that out
This performs better than the ringfield motors and certainly has great pulling powers which really surprised me
Hopefully the stripping of ringfield motors is behind us lol
Have a great Christmas John and thank for all you do 😉👍 🎄 🎄🎄🎄🎄
All the best wishes Garry
cheekytek yes snd you Garry, Merry Christmas
Thanks for posting the review. Had I seen it before Christmas I may have rewritten my letter to Santa! I had been put of by the pre production photos of the black roof.
Like many of us the old Hornby was one of the first models I ever got.
Pretty sure the body of the Hornby Railroad is the old Lima body however the chassis and motor etc are not. They appear to be new tooling. I had always preferred the shape of the Lima HST. I need to check my Lima body as I don't think it has the recesses for the lugs on the side.
Do you have any old Lima HSTs and do you know if they would fit directly onto the chassis?
How does it get on with a full 8 coach rake?
I may buy one to replace my Lima Blue Grey power cars as the livery would match the coaches. The Lima is a wee bit different colour wise and I assume this is a superior motor.. If possible i may also source chassis motor etc as spares for one of my Lima Intercity power cars there is no guarantee Hornby will ever do that livery and if they did I've always preferred the Lima light grey to Hornbys anyway.
Thanks again.
I’ve done a live stream on Susannah’s channel at milden hall on Wednesday 26 dec 2019.
We actually put all these under review and showed the old chassis to new.. 👍
I also did a loco load test and successfully pulled 12 cars and it’s own dummy with complete ease no slip due to great traction on the rear tyres
Cheers Garry
@@cheekytek Thanks Garry. Found the video and yes it answers all my questions. Impressed to see the original Lima version pulling 12 coaches round the layout.
czcams.com/video/4mIoKq2EaPo/video.html
i see WE ,, (Manchester South and Old Oak Common)are to have a direct link!!!!..why dont we start planning a collaboration video ?! 😊👍 all the best,dave
Great idea dave i like your thinking 😉 trouble is we’d finish the link before the real one 😂😂
Cheers budd
Looks a nice model, what's the most it can pull? Is it 5 including the dummy?
It has traction tyres but is nothing like the old HST which had a lot of slip
This goes from start due to weight
I will do a video soon pulling as much as it can in a few days 👍😉.
Have a great Christmas 🎄
All the best wishes Garry
cheekytek
Cheers Garry, I’ll look forward to that review too, happy Christmas
Owen
Great!
Thanks buddy 😉👍
is it all-wheel drive?
Hi buddy unfortunately not just one end and has traction tyres that end. But all said running this on dcc i was surprised at the performance and pulling power, so pretty fair on performance 👍
Does it have rear lighting?
Hi Buddy
unfortunately not just a running chassis with no pickups.
Cheers
Very interesting Garry, and she does look good! A little work on the dummy car, required. Surprised that it doesnt even have lights but still, the body looks great. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
Hi Jerry
Yeah the Dummy would need power and pickups added to the wheel sets for a light conversion - Shame Hornby did not add just a little effort but I guess this is what keeps the price low..
I guess a battery system for red lights with a magnet switch to power them off would work well with out all the taking it to pieces..
Cheers Garry
Hey Gary hope your ok not seen any videos since this one was made :)
Hi thanks for your comment - sorry for the absence, sadly I’ve had a break down last yr thats affected my health and lifestyle. But hopefully getting there..
Thanks Garry
Hi Gary sorry to hear that hope you pull through keep strong my thoughts go out to you and your family i was saying to the wife thought there might be some think wrong thats why i sent you the message just to see how things was going take care Gary stay safe :)
Thank you as always for supporting and caring...
loosing my family and friends is what broke me mentally / physically unfortunately when my unfaithful partner walked out last year after 24yrs - I was wrapped with debt and an empty house- struggling to see my kids- its been the hardest battle, even though gone through this same thing once before, but its taken a year to rebuild myself to where I am today- i do smile from the outside but broken inside- I am okay as they say..trying to stay on an even path..
Cheers.....
Stay safe too Garry 😁
will it also run on DC
Hi Max
Any loco without a decoder will run on DC - some decoders allow this function for DC running too.
Cheers
were have you disappeared to?
Hi David sorry life got all too much since my family left me, trying to find my way now thanks, take care Garry
For a tooling that came out more than a decade ago I find that it's a little overpriced for a Railroad Range model
Good point 👍 but they have upgraded the chassis for smoother dcc running
So shows they are trying in today high manufacturing environment
Personally think many loco’s / coaches now days are well overpriced 👍👍👍👍
cheekytek , supply and demand I guess. They decide the profit margin to make it worthwhile and then we have to make an informed decision. I find bachmann are the chief villains - class 37 is now £140-180, whereas my EWS one I brought in 2015 was £106. A sharp rise.
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Many Thanks all the best for the new year 😉👍
Good vid but MORE VOLUME needed.
Thanks but I suffer hearing loss due to tinnitus As I edit everything on my iPhone it’s hard to get the volumes just right as sometimes is all or nothing
So once again but thanks
I don't think there's a lot of difference.
Thanks for your comment - at time of filming this was based on hornby /on old hornby review - I realise that this is the same tooling as old lima but with little additions and your correct there not a lot of a difference from the old lima except the motor and decoder fittings.. Hornby bought the lima brand and tooling Which I found out after was the re-released Lima now under Hornby brand
So i apologise if this seemed a little confusing. But i appreciate your comment - Thank you & All the best Garry