Don’t know if you said this but if you time your firebomb right against a phantom ult then it kills them instantly. Just gotta rush them w a pistol and drop it as soon as you get to the bubble and you should get them. I’ve done this to so many people after I found out. I’m toxic I know 😂
I also sometimes slide rush the phantom ult from behind with the aa12, mp7 or vector. A lot of the time people are oblivious with other gunfire going on and they don't turn around in time to kill you
Overall pretty great info but let me elaborate more on the blitz shield since you skimmed passed it and it's what i've been running. The blitz shield is an incredibly oppressive tool for forcing space. the typical setup i run here is Blitz + shotgun (my fav is A-12) or SMG (Vector is the best for this due to fire rate). How this works is one of two things will happen: you traverse the map making heavy use of the environment to approach the enemy and engage naturally. then use the shield to disengage or continue to hard push a team Alternatively you can use the shield to close distance quickly and play this game where you approach them they die to melee or they run and you drop shield to pop them. Some glaring drawback counters i'll briefly mention: enemy collision sucks balls emp is almost never and issue because if you're close enough to get emp'd you should already be close enough to engage firebomb absolutely fucks you in shield mode. when of of it they should be gun down before they reach your space. ded sec ult fucks you hard libertad ult is the same as dedsec. its stops all your momentum. cleaner ult will clip you when your shield is up causing you to instantly die. It's a very rewarding playstyle and i'm absolutely addicted to the moment to moment situations you need to mind game.
Deadsec Hijack main here. Yes, you can hack a previously hacked mag barrier. I've had that happen to me only once, where I hacked a barrier and a Hijack on their team hacked it back. Very situational but very good nonetheless. Of course in my case I also run EMP's so I just destroyed it with an EMP instead. If I can't hack your abilities, I'm glad I always bring my plan B. Especially since 30 seconds is way too long of a cooldown.
@@ImmenseJarl374You are right. Those teams consisting of over half Phantoms make the EMP spam combo'd with hijack even better. That is where it shines even better. Cause then the enemy has basically no abilities at all. They do have their OP passive still, but that is all they have while my team still has all of theirs. Those are the games this combo allows me to hard carry with over 10k score at the end. You feel truly powerful here. Despite having the weakest ability in the game.
video was dope, I think if you use emp instead of grenades you become that counter for hijack if they take your shield. I think the best counter for phantoms is definitely the EMP, played a full stack of Phantoms and the EMP grenade kept us in the game, using cleaners also helps balance the field as well.
That shield placement applies situationally for me - i'll place shield further if i'm holding a line to cover an obj AND there are no highjack dedsecs. But i play obj and shield is much better at my feet. Strafe in and out of the shield to be covered from all angles. If a highjack is used, strafe through the shield and clip that dude who just rushed in mindlessly after triggering skill.
I love using this class but it’s also fun to counter them. Depending on how, I’ll either run cleaners to counter health or deadsec so I can either hack and constantly refill on emp grenades to disable their shields.
Yo , I play a lot fifa but as a new to the shooter games I felt in love with this game other than the rest and needed some info about how to play so your video comes on handy ,, thanks a lot,,, I hope u do more videos for beginners.
A little too obvious maybe, but you didn't mention the simple counter of LMG. The M249 is specifically my favorite gun and whenever there's a shield in front of me, it doesn't last more than 3 seconds. You just spray it and it's gone. Especially after season 1 update where they reduced its hp
Eh this really only works if there are 2 of you spraying the shield which is still risky or the person is reloading behind their shield with no cover nearby which at that point they need to watch this guide😎
You are right honestly the only way to counter phantoms who are good is to team shoot or to be a phantom...how many times have you died and see they have 20 health left lol They are the most evenly balanced class imo too dedsec spider bot is brainless annoying, cleaners firebomb is a free kill regardless of skill, radar is godly in the right hands same as el remedio...the vision pulse pistol ult is BY FAR the most game changing one where you can turn the whole tide of the match if you hit your shots...phantoms are really strong but fair imo you dont get as much benefit the moment youre not in a 1v1 fight
Eh I feel like libertad,dedsec, and phantoms all have better ults than echelons but then again info is king. Realistically they can all be better than the other depending on the situation
It's funny how many people run Spiderbot over Hijack on Dedsec. Spiderbot isn't really that powerful. It's just annoying for sure, dont get me wrong, but all it does is get you 1 free kill IF you can capitalize on it. Hijack, on the other hand, is the one-stop shop for countering deployable abilities. Mag barrier? Mine now. El Remedio? Mine now. The new trophy system ability coming with Season 1? Mine now. Enemy spiderbot if you're quick enough? Mine now. Alongside your Ult, which allows you to shut down other people's Ults, and infinite throwables, a Dedsec with Hijack is a much more useful player than one with Spiderbot because you go from a nuisance to someone who can counter more things in the game than any other faction, and you yourself have no counters.
Are you crazy lol!!! I'll drop one of those stupid spiders and chase it, it distracts people and I'll kill them before the spider gets them, then it just keeps repeating. When it does strike a person I usually try to melee kill them with a tea bag finisher. Lol toxiccccc I love it. Plus, I get unlimited proxy mines to secure my killzone w
@@benocxx7906 half the time I'm pure objective, the other half a solo toxic. It will change w season 1. I'll go to the proper modes for each mood I'm in. I was destroyed by a toxic ded sec and it made me expirament, now I absolutely love the class on certain maps.
Dude, but your video is nonsense. The only thing that makes it possible for someone to carry in this game is if they’re a really good player and it doesn’t matter which class they’re on to do so just having 20 extra hip points doesn’t hurt but it doesn’t really make the difference it’s not significant this game boils down to good shooting or cheating, whoever gets the headshot first wins. Almost every weapon with the headshot is one or two shots with every weapon most weapons one shot and one body shot will kill whoever fastest on that draw and most.
Yes there is skill involved and the occasional cheater kinda hard to avoid that but this video has very little to do with equal gunfights extra health is a big benefit is slower ttk games unless your opponent is miles better than you you should win every 1v1 gunfight because of it and if we add in shield it gets even more skewed and you don’t have to be the greatest aimer to use the tips provided in the video it’s actually made specifically for that in a sense and even then unless your opponents are simply better the hp difference goes a long way playing the as the phantoms can stop cleaners from being able to 3 shot headshot you with the ak
actually most guns you need at least 3 headshots for it to lower the ttk.. some 2 shots... I don't even know if there a 1 shot headshot gun to lower ttk
@@Aragao95 dude attack 50 is a one shotgun on the body. Either of the marksman rifles are too shot kills. I believe one shot to the head and one to the body or two to the head. Some of the AR’s are three shots to the head. I mean the time to kill in this game is, more or less you know, speed mill speed time to kill is outrageously fast. You can literally die faster than you can push an ability button. Just depends on who gets to drop who and sometimes when I drop on somebody else they still kill me before I can kill them even at point blank range were none of my shots miss to kill weapons where they hit some weapons it’s one or two shots. I’ve even got one shot head shots with the marks and rifles. Both of them doesn’t mean that the shooting might have a damage or something. I don’t know how much damage healthwise I mean, we have what 100 health or 120 health depending on the character or the class, but still 33 shot head shots are not outrageous for any game. You’ve ever played quite frankly and the time to make three shots with an assault rifle or submachine gun is so fractional that the server won’t even update your screen that somebody shooting at you before you’re already dead if they got the drop on you, follow me it’s less than you know. It’s probably 5 to 10 ms is all it’s taking to kill people in that game. It literally just boils down to who shoots first with almost any gun. You want to choose, assuming all other things are equal your target just boils down to who shoots first.
@@Aragao95 and as a sidenote, since I’ve pretty much completed everything challenge wise in this game so far except for a couple of characters, I decided to download I mean being snowdrop engine I decided download division two again and play through that campaign and just have some fun shooting guns in snowdrop outside of this PVP environment
No circumstance in this game in any game mode, where is your be taking it into the spot as the tank you should always be with one of the objectives all week that’s your job. That’s the problem with this and almost every arena shooter that has objective bass gameplay everyone is worried about the goddamn KD they’re always trying to get kills. They think I get 67 kills. I won the game, those guys are the reason you lose the game because they could be using their outrageous skill secure objectives but instead their ego has been worrying about their KD. I see all the time when I look at the stats. It’s the guy that got 10 kills that’s free but if you look at my objective time or my support points or anything, I’m doing more for the team and that guy with 60 kills that has no support points because all he doing is running around killing people, feeding his ego as the tank which is the tank class that has the ability literally moved the objective on the push type mode by popping is special over top of it and find anyone to step into that shit because they will die instantly to his weapon, likewise running around with the Gilly suit, George Because it is your job to get killed in town to your team is your main job now in certain circumstances again when you’re trying to move the cargo shooting up popping and running into the cargo might be tactic that you could use a support team running around using your invisibility to get your KD up does not Reason players there’s multiple reasons but one of the biggest reasons good players have walked away from games, Harold shooter games like overwatch because because you get a game full of people that have no clue they’re so casual. It’s not that they’re bad at gameplay. it said they don’t even know what the objective is, there’s a reason a game like overwatch doesn’t even have a stand. It’s because you’re OK doesn’t matter at all what matters is securing objective these team base games with objective game modes the only important thing to be done is securing the objective unless you’re doing that, you’re just being selfish and egotistical
I agree that obj should be prioritized more but not on phantom because of what I explained in the video the mag barrier is simply too good to waste shooting at your feet instead of taking space with it
I’ve been saying this since like the 2nd week. The abilities are fine but the extra 20hp is insane. I don’t think there’s a single ability in the game, on a 30 second cool down, that is stronger than 20 extra health every single gun fight
The echelon guide is out now!
czcams.com/video/FSuuIr96gHA/video.htmlsi=-V8z3pjDvRES_DTD
Don’t know if you said this but if you time your firebomb right against a phantom ult then it kills them instantly. Just gotta rush them w a pistol and drop it as soon as you get to the bubble and you should get them. I’ve done this to so many people after I found out. I’m toxic I know 😂
Yep! Said this at 8:40
bro said he’s toxic using basic knowledge 😂
I also sometimes slide rush the phantom ult from behind with the aa12, mp7 or vector. A lot of the time people are oblivious with other gunfire going on and they don't turn around in time to kill you
That self nade was so relatable hahaha
Overall pretty great info but let me elaborate more on the blitz shield since you skimmed passed it and it's what i've been running.
The blitz shield is an incredibly oppressive tool for forcing space.
the typical setup i run here is Blitz + shotgun (my fav is A-12) or SMG (Vector is the best for this due to fire rate).
How this works is one of two things will happen:
you traverse the map making heavy use of the environment to approach the enemy and engage naturally. then use the shield to disengage or continue to hard push a team
Alternatively you can use the shield to close distance quickly and play this game where you approach them they die to melee or they run and you drop shield to pop them.
Some glaring drawback counters i'll briefly mention:
enemy collision sucks balls
emp is almost never and issue because if you're close enough to get emp'd you should already be close enough to engage
firebomb absolutely fucks you in shield mode. when of of it they should be gun down before they reach your space.
ded sec ult fucks you hard
libertad ult is the same as dedsec. its stops all your momentum.
cleaner ult will clip you when your shield is up causing you to instantly die.
It's a very rewarding playstyle and i'm absolutely addicted to the moment to moment situations you need to mind game.
That's an interesting playstyle! I'll give it a try, thanks :)
Deadsec Hijack main here. Yes, you can hack a previously hacked mag barrier. I've had that happen to me only once, where I hacked a barrier and a Hijack on their team hacked it back. Very situational but very good nonetheless. Of course in my case I also run EMP's so I just destroyed it with an EMP instead. If I can't hack your abilities, I'm glad I always bring my plan B. Especially since 30 seconds is way too long of a cooldown.
Thanks for the clarification! But I hate the fact that you still run emps lol
Imo your wasting the print ability if your not running emp with Deadsec. Especially since I've been seeing teams with 4+ phantoms
@@ImmenseJarl374You are right. Those teams consisting of over half Phantoms make the EMP spam combo'd with hijack even better. That is where it shines even better. Cause then the enemy has basically no abilities at all. They do have their OP passive still, but that is all they have while my team still has all of theirs. Those are the games this combo allows me to hard carry with over 10k score at the end. You feel truly powerful here. Despite having the weakest ability in the game.
I love when the drop double mag barriers and I hack them both
Me: plays phantoms
The enemy: DedSec Hijack EMP
Dropped a like for that beautiful grenade self hit
Lmao
video was dope, I think if you use emp instead of grenades you become that counter for hijack if they take your shield. I think the best counter for phantoms is definitely the EMP, played a full stack of Phantoms and the EMP grenade kept us in the game, using cleaners also helps balance the field as well.
Pls make a vid like this for other factions, this was by far the best phantom video out there!
What faction would you like to see next?
Hmm, maybe libertad?
🫡
That shield placement applies situationally for me - i'll place shield further if i'm holding a line to cover an obj AND there are no highjack dedsecs.
But i play obj and shield is much better at my feet. Strafe in and out of the shield to be covered from all angles. If a highjack is used, strafe through the shield and clip that dude who just rushed in mindlessly after triggering skill.
I love using this class but it’s also fun to counter them. Depending on how, I’ll either run cleaners to counter health or deadsec so I can either hack and constantly refill on emp grenades to disable their shields.
Make sure when ranked is out you use frags on dedsec since it’ll only be 1 shield
Great Guide! Honestly I would like to see a guide on Cleaners or maybe Libertad in the future if possible. :)
Which do you want more?
@@sxerpz definitely Libertad!
Yo , I play a lot fifa but as a new to the shooter games I felt in love with this game other than the rest and needed some info about how to play so your video comes on handy ,, thanks a lot,,, I hope u do more videos for beginners.
Glad my vid could help you out!
Great video, I really liked it! I'll be trying some of those tactics myself, thanks!
Glad it was helpful to you!
These are all pretty surface levels tips, maybe good for a beginner or someone new to the game, but not for more advanced players
Not much else is needed past this tbh and even then I can’t really show things like shield lineups due to no customs
A little too obvious maybe, but you didn't mention the simple counter of LMG. The M249 is specifically my favorite gun and whenever there's a shield in front of me, it doesn't last more than 3 seconds. You just spray it and it's gone. Especially after season 1 update where they reduced its hp
Eh this really only works if there are 2 of you spraying the shield which is still risky or the person is reloading behind their shield with no cover nearby which at that point they need to watch this guide😎
Great analysis, man. Loved the video
Glad it was of use to you!
Great guide!
Glad it was helpful!
did you tried to place the shild verticaly? Thats give you a cover form all sites if you move in the right timing.
Since there are no custom games I haven't gone looking for certain shields but I know they exist just hard to find while getting shot lol.
I'll keep these tips in mind the next time i play. Keep Grinding, you earned a sub
Make sure you place good shields! Also if you are playing with a friend have them get used to playing dedsec.
AYE ! I farmed you the other day no ?
@@Jackrabfanyo doubt it I’m a bit of a demon tbh you can’t farm me
@@sxerpz haha I was talking to Victious911 ...i remember farming someone of that name the other day
@@Jackrabfanyo Lmaoo
Good videos 🤘
Are you gonna make more of these?
Yes echelon is up next and almost finished!
You are right honestly the only way to counter phantoms who are good is to team shoot or to be a phantom...how many times have you died and see they have 20 health left lol
They are the most evenly balanced class imo too dedsec spider bot is brainless annoying, cleaners firebomb is a free kill regardless of skill, radar is godly in the right hands same as el remedio...the vision pulse pistol ult is BY FAR the most game changing one where you can turn the whole tide of the match if you hit your shots...phantoms are really strong but fair imo you dont get as much benefit the moment youre not in a 1v1 fight
Eh I feel like libertad,dedsec, and phantoms all have better ults than echelons but then again info is king. Realistically they can all be better than the other depending on the situation
Really good video 👏
Glad you think so!
Dedsec will be so good when GSK comes out I wish hacking reset the utility timer and health
Dedsec is too strong rn with all these hackable abilities el remedio shouldn’t be hackable imo
It's funny how many people run Spiderbot over Hijack on Dedsec.
Spiderbot isn't really that powerful. It's just annoying for sure, dont get me wrong, but all it does is get you 1 free kill IF you can capitalize on it.
Hijack, on the other hand, is the one-stop shop for countering deployable abilities. Mag barrier? Mine now. El Remedio? Mine now. The new trophy system ability coming with Season 1? Mine now. Enemy spiderbot if you're quick enough? Mine now.
Alongside your Ult, which allows you to shut down other people's Ults, and infinite throwables, a Dedsec with Hijack is a much more useful player than one with Spiderbot because you go from a nuisance to someone who can counter more things in the game than any other faction, and you yourself have no counters.
Are you crazy lol!!! I'll drop one of those stupid spiders and chase it, it distracts people and I'll kill them before the spider gets them, then it just keeps repeating. When it does strike a person I usually try to melee kill them with a tea bag finisher. Lol toxiccccc I love it. Plus, I get unlimited proxy mines to secure my killzone w
@@exposingthetruth3821 Ouf, I wouldn't want to play against you. You're not a team winner, but definitely a moral destroyer lol
@@benocxx7906 half the time I'm pure objective, the other half a solo toxic. It will change w season 1. I'll go to the proper modes for each mood I'm in. I was destroyed by a toxic ded sec and it made me expirament, now I absolutely love the class on certain maps.
Getting your abilities stolen constantly is way more annoying in my opinion lol
All you see way to over powered
Dude, but your video is nonsense. The only thing that makes it possible for someone to carry in this game is if they’re a really good player and it doesn’t matter which class they’re on to do so just having 20 extra hip points doesn’t hurt but it doesn’t really make the difference it’s not significant this game boils down to good shooting or cheating, whoever gets the headshot first wins. Almost every weapon with the headshot is one or two shots with every weapon most weapons one shot and one body shot will kill whoever fastest on that draw and most.
Skill issue
Yes there is skill involved and the occasional cheater kinda hard to avoid that but this video has very little to do with equal gunfights extra health is a big benefit is slower ttk games unless your opponent is miles better than you you should win every 1v1 gunfight because of it and if we add in shield it gets even more skewed and you don’t have to be the greatest aimer to use the tips provided in the video it’s actually made specifically for that in a sense and even then unless your opponents are simply better the hp difference goes a long way playing the as the phantoms can stop cleaners from being able to 3 shot headshot you with the ak
actually most guns you need at least 3 headshots for it to lower the ttk.. some 2 shots... I don't even know if there a 1 shot headshot gun to lower ttk
@@Aragao95 dude attack 50 is a one shotgun on the body. Either of the marksman rifles are too shot kills. I believe one shot to the head and one to the body or two to the head. Some of the AR’s are three shots to the head. I mean the time to kill in this game is, more or less you know, speed mill speed time to kill is outrageously fast. You can literally die faster than you can push an ability button. Just depends on who gets to drop who and sometimes when I drop on somebody else they still kill me before I can kill them even at point blank range were none of my shots miss to kill weapons where they hit some weapons it’s one or two shots. I’ve even got one shot head shots with the marks and rifles. Both of them doesn’t mean that the shooting might have a damage or something. I don’t know how much damage healthwise I mean, we have what 100 health or 120 health depending on the character or the class, but still 33 shot head shots are not outrageous for any game. You’ve ever played quite frankly and the time to make three shots with an assault rifle or submachine gun is so fractional that the server won’t even update your screen that somebody shooting at you before you’re already dead if they got the drop on you, follow me it’s less than you know. It’s probably 5 to 10 ms is all it’s taking to kill people in that game. It literally just boils down to who shoots first with almost any gun. You want to choose, assuming all other things are equal your target just boils down to who shoots first.
@@Aragao95 and as a sidenote, since I’ve pretty much completed everything challenge wise in this game so far except for a couple of characters, I decided to download I mean being snowdrop engine I decided download division two again and play through that campaign and just have some fun shooting guns in snowdrop outside of this PVP environment
Young Donna Thompson Sandra Lee Jason
I use LMG with phantoms, it's a kill-fest.
The M249 is so good
@@sxerpz and the m60!
No circumstance in this game in any game mode, where is your be taking it into the spot as the tank you should always be with one of the objectives all week that’s your job. That’s the problem with this and almost every arena shooter that has objective bass gameplay everyone is worried about the goddamn KD they’re always trying to get kills. They think I get 67 kills. I won the game, those guys are the reason you lose the game because they could be using their outrageous skill secure objectives but instead their ego has been worrying about their KD. I see all the time when I look at the stats. It’s the guy that got 10 kills that’s free but if you look at my objective time or my support points or anything, I’m doing more for the team and that guy with 60 kills that has no support points because all he doing is running around killing people, feeding his ego as the tank which is the tank class that has the ability literally moved the objective on the push type mode by popping is special over top of it and find anyone to step into that shit because they will die instantly to his weapon, likewise running around with the Gilly suit, George Because it is your job to get killed in town to your team is your main job now in certain circumstances again when you’re trying to move the cargo shooting up popping and running into the cargo might be tactic that you could use a support team running around using your invisibility to get your KD up does not Reason players there’s multiple reasons but one of the biggest reasons good players have walked away from games, Harold shooter games like overwatch because because you get a game full of people that have no clue they’re so casual. It’s not that they’re bad at gameplay. it said they don’t even know what the objective is, there’s a reason a game like overwatch doesn’t even have a stand. It’s because you’re OK doesn’t matter at all what matters is securing objective these team base games with objective game modes the only important thing to be done is securing the objective unless you’re doing that, you’re just being selfish and egotistical
I agree that obj should be prioritized more but not on phantom because of what I explained in the video the mag barrier is simply too good to waste shooting at your feet instead of taking space with it
👍👍
Game play audio, please.
Yea I don’t know what happened to it when recording but it will be there 100% next time
Was really bummed out to find out it didn’t record game audio
Needs nerfed
I’ve been saying this since like the 2nd week. The abilities are fine but the extra 20hp is insane. I don’t think there’s a single ability in the game, on a 30 second cool down, that is stronger than 20 extra health every single gun fight