Will it Drive 250 Miles Over a Mountain after 15 years ?! 1969 International 1800 Dump Truck
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Today we are back with our 1969 International dump truck trying to get it ready to drive home. After replacing the brake and clutch master cylinders and a little finessing of the brake lines, slave cylinder, and brake booster, are we able to get this truck road worthy for the drive home?
Will we make it 250 miles over two mountains all the way back to the shop without breaking down?
Watch until the end to find out how it all turns out in this weeks episode!
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Gotta bleed a Master Cylinder before hooking it up to the rest of the hydraulic system... A tube off the outlet into a full reservoir and slow pumps until there are no bubbles. Then hook up the vehicle line to the MC and crack it loose a 1/4 turn from tight and have someone slowly push the pedal to the floor and hold. Tighten line. Release pedal. Crack line, pedal slowly down, tighten line, release pedal. Continue until you have solid pedal. Saves you from having to struggle with sketchy bleeders.
Thank you for the advice John…. Wish I would have bled it that way. It would have taken a lot less time.
Your videos snagged me recently, got sucked into the abandoned twin prop even though I know nothing about them. Feel free to hit me up if you get stuck on something and I'll keep watching 👍
@@johnjones1705 sounds good John
Thank you 👍🏼
FYI I'm an otr driver for 31 yrs, i run 100 psi in my drives and 105 psi in my steers. i'm 99% of the time maxed out on weight. They do not even get but barely warm to touch. from the road friction. i run the north east coast, NJ. PENN back down to IN...
i just got finished watching the recent vid post of getting #2 eng running on the 401. i hollowered with a standing ovation. All by myself in my rig. In another words jumping for joy...
Copper washers can be rejuvenated by annealing them with a torch (heat until glowing hot and let it cool down slowly).
Heat until copper puts off a green glow to anneal,soften.
You can quench immediately in water for successful anneal. No need to slow cool, as with steel.
Only works to restore softness not thickness
Back, when Trucks were made to hustle..
Back, when Trucks were Trucks.....
Sweet, mann, sweet.
Found your channel today through the Cesna video and I’m hooked! Amazing content. Bravo! And cheers to having Hank there lending a helping hand. Good ol’ classic wrenching.
Glad to have you here !
Thumbs up for Hank!
Hello from the UK, tremendous, it's nice to see the rescue of a vehicle like this, especially when you have to improvise and work hard to get home. More please!
The more you showed on that mid-trip inspection, the more scared I got for you...... Glad you made it home safely.
I used to drive an International Loadstar dump truck like that one in the middle 60's when I was serving in Germany. I really like those old Internationals, especially with that electric two-speed rear axle. The one I drove was governed at 57 and that's all it could do but it did it loaded or empty. It really was a comfortable truck to drive.
That old girl would be awesome with a 12 valve Cummins in it!
"She sounds like she's going to come apart" News flash! They all sounded that way! lol
Good job.
I watched this becauseci really love old International trucks. I really love that you got it running and fettled the brakes and clutch good enough to drive it home. BUT ONE THING I REALLY HATE IS THAT YOU DUBBED MUSIC IN FOR NEARLY THE WHOLE EPISODE. Sure, my hearing sure aint what it used to be, but I want and need to hear what you are saying and listen to what your doing, and listen to the engine. If i need music, hell i can turn the dammed radio on while I watch.
Thank you for letting us know David and thank you for watching 👍🏼
You are a great mechanic
Just about every old school truck of that era listed on Aussie e-bay or Gumtree, says ; "Brakes not working will need a tow or flatbed to remove"!
It was an ongoing repair/ maintenance schedule with brakes from new back then. But they were cheap to fix & it was often interchangeable with other brands of truck & easily adaptable to make it fit. 👍.
The guy filming this really does a good job
Good Job Getting the Old IH Truck going :) Those Older IH Trucks are Funny :) you cant have 2 check valves in the Brake system, some times the check valve will be in the master Cyl. and some times it will be in the brake booster, but you cant have 2 check valves in the system. the rebuilders put check valves in both the master cyl. and brake booster, be aware of that, and you will never get the brake system to bleed if it has 2 check valves, I learned that the hard way :) I took the truck to the IH repair shop and a old timer mechanic remembered that about the old IH trucks with Hyd. Brakes, just wanted to pass that info along.
Found your page from the free airplane video, but man this dump truck is just as cool!
Thank you for watching Keaton
Awesome truck and awesome adventure! Something about the old gas Loadstars I really like. Wish I had a shop to work on mine. It's a '69 Loadstar 1700 with a utility bed on it and 15k original miles. It's been kept inside most of its life so there is no rust anywhere. Now if only I could find someone who wants a free medium duty utility truck bed all they have to do is unbolt it from the frame and take it. Surprisingly I have not found any fellow IH enthusiasts in my northeastern corner of Calif.
15k miles and stored inside is an amazing find !
What’s your plans with it ? I’m sure there has to be someone out your way who’d make good use of a heavy duty bed.
@@rebuildrescue hi, my plans are to convert it to 4wd and make it into a general purpose flat bed truck - for work and to put a camper on when I want to go play, as in wilderness camping. I now have the front drive axle - same axle ratio as the rear and same Dayton spoke type wheels and manual locking hubs. I was also blessed to find a very rare Dana/Spicer 4 speed transfer case from a low mileage municipal truck - very low, low, direct and overdrive gear ratios. I did a small write-up on this transfer case in a couple of the IH forums. But before any serious work can begin, I need to find someone to remove the utility bed.
That sounds like an awesome project…. 4x4 and a camper ! That’ll be the coolest camper conversion not to mention go anywhere !
That girl needs an Italian tune up immediately;)
That truck runs great for as long as it sat.
This truck brought me here🥰🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Growing up as a kid, had a loadstar 1700 with 345; 5-2 trans ; juice brakes. Hauled hundreds of loads of asphalt/stone. She would handle 10 ton no problem,sometimes put 12ton on her. One of best trucks ever built. Made us lots of 💰! Great video thanks for posting !
Love these old trucks
Be glad that you are not driving a truck in this condition in my country (Norway)! If you were pulled over and checked by the police or worse, Statens Veivesen (our equivalent to NHTSA) you'd a) not travel any further b) be without your drivers license for a pretty long time c) have to pay a heavy fine d) probably have to make a court appearance. That said, I really enjoyed this video!
America!! Free to do possible ill-advised things if you want! Lol.
We have strict commercial vehicle laws here in the states as well. As for the brakes & clutch, they would not pass if law enforcement saw them. There are other things that would be questionable.
@@TwitcyTrain And be a hazard for others.
@@peterbockholm3176 right.. I worked with a guy that supposedly drove a dump truck years ago and the brakes went out, he hit a family in a car, ultimately killing a child in the back seat. I would definitely be hesitant about rolling around in a huge vehicle with shotty brakes..
That's one amazing Old Gal! Would really like to see a custom renovation done, she appears to be in pretty good shape rust wise, really think she's worth the time (and cash!).
No guts no glory. Go For it.
Love the Ohio rest stops amazing
I have a 66 Chevy pickup with the 2 speed auto. I bought it in 1985 and still have it. I drove it from Atlanta to Jacksonville FL in 1989. I got 8 MPG on the highway. Like you my max was 55 MPH. I am currently resurecting it and an old triumph from the same era. I miss the simpler days of automotives, the designs were made to look good withou as mus emphasis on aerodynamics. Where you could make it run and get you there with the tools and supplies you could carry in a tool bag. Didnt get there fast, didnt get there in comfort, but we got there in style.
Of course his name is Hank! Looks like that truck was his baby back in the day. Glad he got to see her movin again. 😁😁
I'd love to see more digging around in ancient trucks like this, they have so much character.
I don’t know why, but that’s a cute looking truck, glad you saved it!
I always had better luck with PB Penetrating oil instead of PB Blaster. They look like similar cans but the PB Penetrating oil seems to cut through the rust better.
Glad to see you make it safely home! The old stuff seems to always get you home one way or another meanwhile the new stuff will leave you stranded with a bad sensor or code that disables it even if it has nothing to do with it running. lol 43:39 I wonder if the backup lights were stuck on for the whole drive...brings back a memory of my father when I was a kid in the 1970's. We had a Plymouth Fury with that push button transmission and if you barely pushed the reverse button it would let you go forward with the backup lights on. Dad loved spooking tailgaters with that. hahaha Thanks for the video, that truck is in such beautiful shape, I know you'll get lots of enjoyment out of it!
Thank you !
Such an adventure ! I remember folks putting reverse light switches on their hot rods back in the day and they’d flick them on and off to show they wanted to race. Gotta love the way one of these old cars or trucks bring back memories.
@@rebuildrescue Well said! I Love seeing more and more channels saving the old iron because once it's gone, it's gone forever. Fully agree when you said new stuff just doesn't have the character as the old stuff did.
We have a really really cool old iron project coming up in a few weeks ! Can’t wait !
@@rebuildrescue I can't wait either, looking forward to it!
It makes you wonder how we ever got around back in the day, without all the sensors & BS the new cars have.
The only part that really really freaked me the fk out was when u were pumping up tire with automatic pump DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF TIRE.. 😬😬😬 52:30
It’s expensive but get a can of “Kroil” , this stuff is so amazing my friend! 👌🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
I like the videos, good work. Amazing that you could get parts for that old International. That truck is in great shape for it's age.
The exhaust is not a problem. Truck rear ends get hot, I own a 379 Peterbilt, trust me they get hot, if you put your hand on it and you have to jerk your and away quickly, then your getting a little hot.
Those wheels that you have there are called Dayton wheels, so the brake drums are called inside drums. You can get to the brake shoes with the tires and rims on the hubs, or you can remove them.
To get to the brake shoes, you have to pull the rear wheel drive axel shafts out of the differential, take the wheel bearing nuts off the hubs, then the wheel hub and the brake drums come off together, you will need new wheel seals, which would probably be a good idea to change anyway, since it sat for so long.
Then you can get at the rear brake slave cylinders, which could be leaking brake fluid, especially since it sat for so long.
As for the truck wondering around could be caused by a steering shaft U joint that is loose, or failing, there could be one behind that cover inside the cab. Check all the ball joints in the front end
I cracked one on my Pete once, and the truck was all over the road.
I like this guy. Like Derek without the humor, but still very cool.
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I love Intertrashionals!
Love you bro, but that was painful watching you install that master cylinder without bench bleeding it and trying to drive it without even cracking a single bleeder loose. 🤣 I still have the second half to watch, so fingers crossed.
250 miles with the backup lights on :P
Back in my youth I drove an old IH LoadStar school bus for a church that I was a member of. This was in the late 80s so it was so old that it was retired from the school district. I was always amazed at how well it ran and shifted.
👍
I admire your patience.
Hello from the UK, I'm seeing similarities between the CJ5 and this International, they were built to LAST! Awesome vlogs, really enjoying them.
Great looking ole truck. Definitely wasnt trying to save weight and money when they built the headache rack. Lol Seems like these old loadstars are getting popular. Rode a gas school bus loadstar mostly thru elementary and middle school.
What not to do I usually have covered very well. I watch you and love the patience you have it is very encouraging to watch you.
1967 my dad had the same ,stock diesel enginee, vẻry very strong.
The fact you've posted videos of yourself alive after this one makes me think you were successful in not dying.
I know it will. We used that truck as a garage truck at a campground. It had no brakes to speak of, we used trees to stop it on the hills 😂. It's a fucking beast of a truck! And that's why we painted Jeff Gordon on the side. If you know Nascar you'll get it 😂.
I'm amazed at how clean the thing is
Great video, nice truck. I drove a diesel '69 loadstar firetruck about 700kms home for a friend a few years ago. FYI The constant music on the background was really distracting
All I would have done differently would have been fix the break lights. Great video
Beautiful truck I wish I could have one like that I really like the dump body on it
Thank you ! After we clean it up and do some maintenance to it we’ll be putting her up for sale 👍🏼
@@rebuildrescue Where will that update be at? Thanks
I recently bought an old mid 60s 1700 Loadstar meself, which has spent the better part of the past 25 years as a glorified farm tractor.
Is a rather new experience, first time tackling a vehicle project this big, and even just your two videos have been a great help troubleshooting mine. I do hope you put up more videos of your work on this vehicle, would like to see how far you take it, and it may just help me too.
Going to get me old girl rolling reliably and safely, and then turn her into me rolling home.
Good luck on your endeavours, wish me luck on mine.
Cheers!
Bingewatching some episodes after the airplane, nice work have to say👍
Thanks for the content
I watched every second of the episode...It reminded me of my olden days when I would work on my vehicle until midnight so it could crank whenever I took off to work or to college...Fortunately, I now own an E350 Mercedes-Benz and an F-150 Ford Platinum and drive a late model company GMC pickup...Blessed...
Nice truck 🚛 👌🏻
I want a cordless ratchet now, Thanks a Lot. 😃
quality this truck for the brakes is good that they put air brakes since it is a large truck with greater weight
Good evening, I wish we had U Tube 40 years ago, I could have used all them tips then, thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching Steven 👍🏼
Thank you for watching Steven 👍🏼
When I here "dumbest thing I've ever done" Usually a bar, and a couple of bags are involved but never a dump truck.
Lovin' the channel!
🤣😂 thank you for watching Jay !
I certainly understand the challenge of getting something going again and driving it home to show your skill and will. Congrats. I too have taken risk getting something back home but I don't think I've ever done something that if my judgement was poor that it might injure or worse someone else. Lets hope that video is never made.
That truck look good
42:45 I learned to drive a forklift on a unit that had brakes like that. You had to pump the brakes about 3 times before it would really start to slow down.
That gave me nightmares about driving and losing the brakes. I have no desire to re-live that. I'd keep bleeding it til it works, and if it just wont, then I'd just take the slopes slow, keep it in 2nd.
Wait.. I just realized this is in my hometown, I recognize the roads as you drove out! Pretty neat. Latrobe, Pa area
We need more Hank!
Did you bleed the brakes at each wheel? Also you will probably need to bleed the clutch slave cylinder to get a fully operating clutch. Keep up the good work 👍
Same here. Are there bleeder valves at all 4 brake cylinders and the slave?
Exactly the same what i thought... Shouldnt be a big deal to bleed them and is a lot faster and definetly safer than just hitting the pedals...
Also maybe just changing the brake cylinders on the wheels might be a good idea...
I'm guessing he did since he did it with the first master cylinder he tried out, but just a guess lol
This was bugging me big time. I mean yeah you can get air out by pumping but you gotta bleed at the wheels.
All we have are CZcams mechanics lol don’t hurt yourself
I'd like to see a 'where are they now' video. I'd love to see if you have done any more work on the Jeep and the international since you got them home.
Great content. I think unsticking rusted stuck bolts is the most satisfying part, as it’s something I can’t ever seem to do.
Love those old Inter-trash-ionals but hate the K-H wheels 😡
42:46
To answer your question..
Watch this hold my beer as i drive the 250 miles with a tin of dip... :) love your vids mate!
🤣😂 love it 👍🏼
Kudos to your cameraman/helper/editor. It's a difficult job and he does it well! I've been involved in filming motorcycle races and events and I know it's a tough job
Hooked on your channel with the 401 series. Brilliant content 👌🏻
Awesome, thank you ! I am glad you are enjoying the episodes !
@@rebuildrescue holy shitballs, didn’t realise I’ve been watching for almost a year. It’s been a quick year. Happy new year for when it comes 👍
I love those old international truck shame we don’t have those here in the uk
Cool.
Hello from Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada. Thanks for sharing your great video’s please keep them coming
Awesome !
Thank you for watching Brent 👍🏼
You're the Matt's Off Road Recovery of fixing cars.....And Airplanes. Good Wholesome entertaining stuff.
Insurance fraud matt 🤡
I had to replace the master cylinder and vacuum booster on my 65’ N600 and the brakes are the same way. They will stop on the first push, but feel really firm and will throw you through the windshield on the second push.
I think you are spot on with the brake booster if you smell brake fluid.
Yeah, I bet you couldn't sleep right away.
Driving something like this so many miles, and on top of it over the mountains, just calls for all the concentration one has each second.
Nice you got that old lady out running again. :)
It was an awesome adventure !
Very cool 👍🏻
Thats a Awesome truck wish we had that style over here in Australia
Nice roadtrip, made it👍
Howdy,
I'm new to the channel going through all your videos and I'm seeing consistently that you just sit the tools on the body.
Why not put a towel down first?
Looking forward to more videos
Heating the cooper washers with the torch wil make em brand new and soft again. Just a tip
Go for it, you can always down shift! Trying it at night wasn't the brightest idea in my opinion. Nice pun, right!?
Good job well done.
Another successful rescue of yet another classic truck.
Well done.
It was an adventure ! Thank you for watching !
you let those cars just pass you?!? Come on, where is your racing spirit hahaha well done
Great video, brought back a lot of memories. I spent a lot of time wrenching on the same brake system in a 67 international in the late 80s/ early 90s great old truck, horrible brakes
Make it fly, you are doing a fantastic job. All the best of luck from Cornwall UK .
Thank you Brother for your kindness !
The trucks of that era the brakes were always a double pump. I'am not sure but I think it has something to do with the vacuum booster
I drove a 1974 International Loadstar 1600 . It was a 22 ft. box truck Loaded with gear weighing in at 20 thousand lbs with that same brake system. kept shoes adjusted up tight, pedal only moved an inch, and that heavy truck would throw u through the windshield... no pumping, and slight foot pressure!
WOW Hope to have a project like that. Love the look of those old trucks. Love your channel keep it going!
FYI that air filter housing is supposed to have oil in it. Oil bath air cleaner. Also those boosters do fail exactly as you described. They are generally still available as they were used on a million different vehicles back in the day. You gotta watch it because they will burn through your brake fluid during driving so youll leave with a full master and no leaks, and return with no fluid!
Damn....old mate just smoking next to an open fuel can.......
Dude you sure have a long drive, I seen your fifth wheel camper when you brought the booster over! You are at home!
I've got almost the same dump truck. It has 10 lug bud wheels and air brakes which is nice. I converted it to a tilt hood which is way more convenient. Couldn't say how many loads I've done, it has 230k on the working odometer. Good looking truck congrats
Answer to the video title question ... I once had a Mini Mk1 which ran for OVER 350 miles (being thrashed) with the oil pressure warning light constantly lit and about 6lbs ONLY of oil pressure MAX showing on my after market oil pressure gauge before finally throwing its arms and legs in the air and giving up! So A truck should manage 250 miles just fine if it's running ok! 🤣🤣🤣
I bet that Mini MK1 was a 958cc engine too. Hard to kill those things.
@@edcrabb it may have been but the casting numbers said 995cc. What I DO know is that it was a fairly rare example of an "over square" engine stroke shorter than piston diameter (bore) and the Mini bore, as I'm sure you are aware is pretty small to start with. As a consequence that particular engine, with only mods being double valve springs and a pancake air filter meant it would happily rev to 6,500 with the limit being determined by the standard 1.25" single SU card choking off. I did once try a mate's single 1.5" SU but it wasn't much better. However, I did have another mate who fitted twin 1.25's, from a "Spridget" IIRC, that he said worked brilliantly once the carbs were properly balanced.
Re: your comment, yup Mini engines generally, despite the proclaimed weaknesses of a 3 bearing only crank and the very thin webs between cylinders, especially 2&3, that caused gasket leakage issues, were all pretty indestructible!
first drive at night?!? brave soul lol