[Puyo Puyo Tetris AI] Zetris vs Doremy (6) - 2 Pop Puyo

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Actually, on PC you can't play Puyo vs Tetris with additional game parameters like Quick Drop and 2 Pop. Long story.
On Switch and other ports, all it takes is to select Puyo Pop 2 and Quick Drop On in the Versus Room Settings screen.
However on PC, the settings do nothing if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game. The settings are applied only to Puyo vs Puyo.
Fug Ebin Meme reverse engineered this and from what I've understood, the game simply doesn't care about setting the Puyo ruleset if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game, likely because it checks if there's a Tetris player in existence and considers it a Tetris game.
What me and Doremy did here was force the Puyo ruleset to 2 Pop and Quick Drop enabled via memory hacking. Easiest way to do it.
Played live by Doremy.
Zetris created and maintained by mat1jaczyyy.
Thanks to misakamm for MisaMino.
Thanks to knewjade for his Perfect Clear Finder.
Original Title: Quick Drop 2 Pop Margin Time

[@jacobs6229]

What? You can have Tetris vs Puyo with 2 Puyo clear rule?

[@Zetris]

Actually, on PC you can't. Long story.
On Switch and other ports, all it takes is to select Puyo Pop 2 and Quick Drop On in the Versus Room Settings screen.
However on PC, the settings do nothing if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game. The settings are applied only to Puyo vs Puyo.
Fug Ebin Meme reverse engineered this and from what I've understood, the game simply doesn't care about setting the Puyo ruleset if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game, likely because it checks if there's a Tetris player in existence and considers it a Tetris game.
What me and Doremy did here was force the Puyo ruleset to 2 Pop and Quick Drop enabled via memory hacking. Easiest way to do it.

[@ChewyFlyer]

@@Zetris ctrl + c
ctrl + v the description of the vid

[@Zetris]

@@ChewyFlyer the comment was written before the description :)

[@marzel3360]

@@Zetris but you can have it on pc you just showed the you did puyo 2 pop chain rule.

[@marzel3360]

@ABEQUINN now i just read it i forgot. XD

[@artificialair]

When Zetris starts making odd shapes with the Tetrominoes
**chuckles* I'm in danger*

[@gingeas]

1:49 this is the most fucked up perfect clear setup i've ever seen

[@damientheincin]

Gingeas IKR

[@OneZenDarius]

And it ended in a bravo...lol

[@kevinstrand4596]

Zetris gets 20 perfect clears in match 1 and 25 total:
1:55
1:58
4:07
4:14
4:18
4:33
4:43
4:47
4:52
5:03
5:07
5:10
5:21
5:49
5:52
5:57
5:58
6:01
6:04
6:07
And almost another at 6:10 before winning game 1
6:41
6:46
6:49
6:54
6:59
Absolutely crazy that anyone can survive against this much garbage for any length of time, very entertaining match

[@YuyukeVA]

4:25 - everybody gangsta til Zetris """misdrops""" at 9 height

[@skrubboi2127]

That was actually a PC setup

[@superhuffpuff]

@@skrubboi2127 are you serious or is this also sarcasm

[@skrubboi2127]

@@superhuffpuff it was sarcasm I think but it was definitely a weird t spin set up

[@skrubboi2127]

Wait nvm it was him setting up a tetris??

[@skrubboi2127]

No that was actually a pc watch from the timestamp for a bit no lines get sent and he gets a PC

[@RIN-tp7tk]

パフェルートを見つけた瞬間にミノの置き方が意味不明になるの本当に面白い

[@FugEbinMeme]

Nice, someone found out how to get 2 pop and quick drop to work in Puyo vs Tetris. Bet that guy is hella smart and has huge meat

[@normie8862]

yes

[@Boooo]

Unrelated but I have big meat

[@NonJohns]

Can't believe you don't know that burger guy smh

[@bananya6020]

LUL

[@antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232]

I guess there's some material for "Cursed images" in there.
Puyos deleting in pairs, the perfect clear screen with a lot of garbage lines, the mass of apparent misdrops for the perfect clears...

[@dracautiste]

Intense battle, was really great to watch all those all-clear from both "player"!

[@EldenLord.]

Those inhuman PCs Zetris manages to pull off never get old.

[@inconspicuousrobot2685]

They are quite literally inhuman

[@johnbuttler915]

5:50
And the murder began.

[@Dogamtika]

I swear the god how could zetris calculate all-clears like that??? Thats REALLY INHUMAN

[@adicusthegreat9120]

Doremy :I'm so going to win this game ive got the margin time on my side!
Zetris : *performs a perfect clear in 1.3 seconds*
5:55

[@alexander5.1]

4:27 I had a feeling that was a perfect clears setup

[@johnathanpatrick6118]

When Zetris starts pumping out seemingly 12 perfect clears in 2 minutes, you know playtime's over. 🤭🤭😂😂

[@navyhasnoclevertitle328]

im sure if doremy mastered 2pop he could do it

[@Boooo]

Whats the point in mastering something like 2 pop puyo

[@navyhasnoclevertitle328]

@@Boooo - I dunno man

[@tomnason]

Doremy speedruns Zuma Deluxe which is basically a linear 2 pop game. He's quite good

[@user-ex8do7ex2x]

zetris「なぜあんなにパフェ打ってるのにやられねぇんだよ」

[@dahlia9759]

doremy「なぜあんなにマージン多連結入れてんのにやられねぇんだよ」

[@포츠]

Wumbo : god of 4-wide
Zetris :
*HOLD MY PERFECT CLEAR*

[@user-uw5ng4lh8t]

2連の二連鎖目だけでパフェが帰ってくの闇深すぎ

[@icecream6256]

Father abuses robotic daughter.
Daughter refuses vitamin
Father got mad
Daughter fought back.
Daughter died.

[@kelvindean]

Zed says: "What a favorable outcome."
(We don't think it's good...)

[@yaltintas96]

5:48 zetris gets mad and knocks out

[@wolfetteplays8894]

This is a weird request, but could you do a video of Zetris playing to the beat of BGM 12? It’s humanly impossible, but I’d love to see it in a TAS

[@Zetris]

To the beat is pretty hard, without some heavy heavy effort. I'm currently too busy to dive into this, but remind me sometime in the future and I might be up for doing it!

[@supernukey419]

Zetris When should we remind you?

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Super Nukey probably remind them a month later

[@Zetris]

I tried doing this around a week ago, and it doesn't work out well. Sorry, can't do it :(

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Zetris can it maybe be a speedhack TAS? Would need to slow the music low in audacity and play back since speedhack doesn’t change music. That’s just one idea I have

[@chooxv8741]

The tetris player is at a HUGE disadvantage.

[@wouazzalus]

Yep but it's a machine so ...

[@EyeballVandalist]

Imagine how cool it would be playing at the speed of 4 Piece Placements per Second. That's such a bruh

[@theDarkDragonsslave]

I know this is an old video, but I decided to go through a history watch of zetris vs doremy
And damn, in this one zetris decided it was time for doremy to just DIE
Especially after the 7 almost back to back perfect clears WHAT WAS THAT.

[@num--au2431]

パフェ生成オバケ

[@PeashooterTheUnproffesional]

the M A R G I N T I M E is strong with this one

[@Major_Mason]

I wanted to see how high the modified garbage rate goes! I mean, a two chain deflecting a perfect clear is crazy!

[@bluemushroom64]

everybody gangsta till there is an even number of minos on zetris's board (he can start spamming PCs)

[@CsQ_RandomRepository]

That's a weird experiment

[@user-yc9pr2zz2p]

まさかここまで強くなるとは。

[@BaoCypher0912]

I am happy that zetris exists since I always wanted to do this exact same bot

[@tetrismain608]

I love what you have done with the bot. It is much more threatening with the more back to backs and less combos, but a ton more perfect clears. Will this be allowed in Puzzle League or will it be too overpowered?

[@Zetris]

I've put it in puzzle league but only shortly for stress testing. No real reason to put it there, especially as less and less high level players play on PPT matchmaking.

[@phantom_gachalife4298]

we want a legendary fight:
you vs wumbotize at tetris.

[@Zetris]

ask him

[@phantom_gachalife4298]

@@Zetris obliviously

[@Ninetails2000]

It'd be cool if we could see something like Fever Rule VS Zetris. Zetris' own efficiency at sending garbage would work against him by fueling Fever if the Puyo is skilled enough.

[@Zetris]

pretty sure fever isn't buried anywhere in ppt:(

[@icelingbolt]

@@Zetris probably a dumb idea; but dont PPC and PPT2 run on the same engine? Could you import fever rules if you mod it in place of vs?
Fever mode itself exists in big bang and skill battle, it's just the gauge, but we already have a activation of it through skill raid bosses so it might be possible to activate it with garbage offset?

[@ruintori]

thats alot of perfect clears

[@kyo4973]

so zetris has different settings you can put on right? would you be able to put what settings zetris has on in the description or something? i thought it would be interesting

[@Zetris]

Almost always playing T-spin+ LV5 on 100% speed with PC finder enabled.

[@kyo4973]

@@Zetris ah i see, thanks

[@YoshiMariogamer]

So was the perfect clear finder was off at the at the start until the game was too long for zetris and he just decided to just do perfect clears

[@LalitoTV]

does zetris know how to perform neo tspins?

[@Zetris]

no

[@Dogamtika]

I'm already a fast builder in Tetris but Zetris isn't a human anymore

[@jfan3049]

Laaava Phönix its almost like its not an actual human :o

[@jchang1999]

do 1 pop puyo next

[@sebantoniagomeztoledo5956]

Wow Doremy got 4 All clears at 0:02-0:12

[@jackhammer4906]

Zetris/Misamino is probably the fastest Tetris player right now. Is it possible for it to do sub-15 on Sprint without speedhacks?

[@Spidapida006]

sub-1 is reality. that is with line delay removed and nice das config
theres a vid that uses b2b pc tetris on ppt, also by zetris.

[@jackhammer4906]

@@Spidapida006 No, I meant no modifications or configs; you just let Zetris play normally and can it achieve sub-15?

[@lolwutman]

There is a literally perfect tas on this channel of a sprint.

[@Zetris]

no, 19.96 is the analitically proven minimum possible time to achieve on puyo puyo tetris sprint.

[@Spidapida006]

@@jackhammer4906 not here on ppt though i meant sorry i did not pu it there
its on nullpomino, the name of the bot (where zetris is based) is... wait i forgot it

[@bananya6020]

can you make the amount of pops needed *higher* than 4? just for fun.

[@robloxfan23_]

4:17

[@bear_223]

ドレミー君ぷよも出来るのか…

[@amaisora455]

The PPTrinity All Against Zetris?
I Wanna See Maybe a 1v3 or 2v2

[@randomcommenterheredontmin4390]

yeah amatoyeamaiou, wombu and deremi vs tezrit

[@bananya6020]

even dumber idea: Tetris (Zetris) vs puyo, but tetris (Zetris) has to play with an 11-wide playfield, and puyo gets 2-pop.

[@speedwagonoverheaven9716]

how to balance puyo:

[@sheauwn6974]

Does Zetris access the game's memory to acquire information about the game state or does it interpret the screen?

[@Zetris]

memory

[@PikaChu-um2gt]

@@Zetris When Zetris accesses the memory, does it only see the 5 next pieces in the queue or can it get more? I find it hard to believe that it can do so many perfect clears consistently with only 5 next pieces.

[@Zetris]

@@PikaChu-um2gt sees anywhere between 12-19 at a time. i could do more, but it results in PCs that are too greedy. some are already borderline greedy and cause it to die.

[@amaisora455]

What if Zetris Was Secretly a Printer That Had a Talent Of Playing Tetris-
We Need A Story For This Bot

[@user-jl3yt3et8s]

しばかずやったらサラッと勝ちそうやな

[@rum539]

2個消しは慣れてないんじゃない？

[@user-km7tm7pm5b]

5:49

[@Hugelag]

*confused screaming*

[@snowflake1135]

Is it possible to download zetris?

[@Zetris]

I give it out to top players for practice.