Who is The Jedi Exile? - Star Wars Characters Explained!!
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- Have you ever wondered what happened to the Jedi Exile after KOTOR 2? Or have you wondered what she was like before? Take a look here and find out the story behind the famous Jedi Exile - Meetra Surik!
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100% star wars can you do a video of who is daegen lok please.
My favorite jedi sith in star wars is revan and you have done a lot of videos on him and they are all awesome
@@MoonStar-ux9yx I don't know who daegen lok is so I might learn somthing new about star wars if he does
I just watched your gamplay on that game but I haven't see Revan. In one the. Battle
Peace be upon 🌿 you Mithra!.
Meetra over Rey any freakin day.
Hell Yes!
No matter how you play Meetra, she is a very human character even though she was overpowered, Rey is the overpowered plank of wood in Star Wars. Meetra also had an explanation for her power, Rey was woman power SJW nonsense.
@@stephenhansen1789 How the hell can you say that Meetra was a "very human character" when we play as Meetra in the game? We choosing how to play doesn't make her a good character.
@@thomasjefferson2813 good point, however, wouldn't we basically be Meetra Surik, therefore she would be a very human character.
@@thomasjefferson2813 I think the writing for the player dialogue and the way that Obsidian portrayed Meetra in key scenarios (like stabbing her lightsaber into the center-stone of the counsel chamber) made her human. She wasn't the emotionless calm jedi, she was strong-willed and principled even if she never says a word, and the writing for a lot of the player choices reflects that pretty well. I also wouldn't really say she was overpowered story-wise, certainly way way way less so than they're making Rey or the new Palpatine now days.
Even though Kotor 2 was rushed and incomplete towards the end, the team behind both games are true dedicated Star Wars fans.
It's a beautiful and dark Star Wars story!
A Thought Crime I think Kotor I and II is the best definition of what star wars can be legendary games. But Kotor 2 is the best one.
A Thought Crime I got it on my pc and downloaded the restored content mod. It was so much better then the Vanilla version.
@@100StarWars I never liked it. It needed another sequel. Kotor 1 was better.
They (motor 1 and 2)are the foundation that let Lucas expand the series
I love how ‘strengthen her abilities in the force from people’s deaths’ is basically explaining the in game mechanic of leveling up haha
RIP T3, The real hero of this story...
Not the hero they deserved but the hero they needed
Nihilus word son
@@100StarWars T3 is the hero we all need
Wait, did he die?
@@jlord5078 Unfortunately yes.
This entire storyline is so deep and sooo interesting. Disney and EA is going the opposite direction, we need to go back to the Old Republic!
I have no hate towards either. I just want KOTOR 3 haha.
Oh no I have no hate towards Disney I find the movies very fun and will love it because it's Star Wars no matter what, but what you said about money and not wanting to go deep because it's all a business is so accurate. Now EA on the other hand...well I won't go there
I think EA are being harshly treated, but they have brought most of it upon themselves. I'm 50/50 with them.
Well...they are to blame for not producing a Kotor 3. It was nearly in production when Bioware was bought out. Mass Effect took Precedent as well as Dragon Age. The MMO was pawned off to a separate portion of Bioware in Texas I believe. Of course EA wanted to have an MMO under their belt. Everyone wants in on the next best MMO that will milk them money.
That being said, they could be in a position to develop a Kotor3 once they figure out that will make them a lot of money. I get the feeling Disney and EA want to be mutually beneficial towards each other, so all we get is awful Battlefront games that reference the films.
The corporate control of this IP is truly fucked. Even though Disney completely dissolved all Star Wars lore as not canon, they have this goal of trying to keep people indoctrinated. I could care less about episode 9 and I would not want Disney to make an Old Republic style movie because they would never be able to show the complexities of situations. As well as cutting a ton of the story to fit it in some nice trilogy.
No there wont be one... the new owners (disney) have already stated, (in a way) that their story will be original.. even though it's off the basis of an already and well produced story... it's all legends my friend.. and any new "old, old" star wars stories will be cannon above what we've witnessed today... as far as Disney is concerned, Revan never existed period.
I totally agree with the lazy writing for the mmo. Revan and the exile deserve so much more. I stopped playing as soon as i played the foundry.
Dan what’s the foundry
@@NathanPaulBell without giving spoilers to the MMO, it's a place where you encounter a couple of fan favourite characters from Kotor 1
Well, thankfully we got more in Echoes of Oblivion!
I chose to Never play that game as its not a True sequel
I going to quickly explain the events of Knights of the Old Republic 2 for those who are not familiar. I chose not to include it in the video, because it's a relatively well known story, and the length would've been increased by a good 5 minutes!
Meetra returns to known space, and it's captured by a HK-50 droid (who is a bounty hunter), and is taken to the peragus fuel station to wait for pickup. The HK-50 kills all of the miners on the space station, and the deaths unintentionally sustain her, and it reawakens Meetra's ability to hear the force! She escapes the facility after a near miss with the sith lord Darth Sion, with the help of Smuggler Atton Rand and the mysterious Kreia.
She arrives at Telos, and is taken into custody by the police, because they believe she destroyed Peragus. In the meantime, the Ebon Hawk is stolen. She takes a space shuttle down to telos' surface, and meets former friend Bao-Dur. They then find a hidden jedi temple in the polar regions of Telos, where she finds former Jedi Master Atris.
She is then told about the surviving, but hidden Jedi Masters on the Planets - Onderon, Nar Shaddaa, Dantooine and Korriban. She goes on an adventure to reunite to jedi, as a means to find out what happened to her. Once she reunites them, The Jedi reveal that she cut her own connection to the force, as a means to save herself. The Jedi try to sever Meetra again, because they fear her ability to drain the lives of others. Kreia, interrupts, and kills the Jedi, revealing herself to be Darth Traya, and also revealing her plan to destroy the force itself.
Traya returns to Malachor V, and in the meantime, the Sith Lord Darth Nihilus attacks Telos. Meetra goes to aid Telos, and defeats Nihilus with the help of the Mandalorians. She then travels to Malachor 5 to end Traya. She is halted by Darth Sion, and she ultimately helps him to let go, and die. She then finds Traya in an ancient sith academy deep inside the planet and defeats her. She escapes Malachor, after it is destroyed by Bao-Durs remote, who reactivates the Mass Shadow Generator for a second time, and destroys the planet.
That is the entire plot of Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords. Of course, there is a lot more to it, but that is the basic outline for the story!
100% Star Wars Be awesome if you did a video on her time in KOTOR2, image there's a far bit of interest for that, as it's an awesome story with Kreia (and whispers of Revan) that many want to hear again.
Awesome videos, especially the characters explained playlist.
As many times as ive played the games ive never heard the name meetra. And this summary is the best thing since sliced bread. Theres so many layers to the game that i missed as a kid playing it.
Because this is clearly what we wanted after KOTOR 2. Thanks EA and Bioware for shitting on 2 badass characters and killing one of my favorite droids.
It was an awful way to end her story.
also they made ME kill 47 (just in case you were talking T3)
Bad they killed the exile out of sole bs and ba revan story, also killed my boy t3 and hk 😭
Manny_Absolute HK-47 actually survived. He was found on Mustafar just before Vader killed all the Separatist leaders. He’s around still.
@@mannylara2930 Old Republic isn't canon.
I couldn't agree more with you about how they treated Meetra in the MMO game. I felt while everyone was upset with Episode 1-2-3. Revan, Bastila, and Meetra kept Star Wars on life support till Episode 7 came out. It's good to see Meetra fans out there. Thanks for the video!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Ugh. Revan and the Exile deserved so much more. I hate how their stories end and what they were reduced to.
Agreed. They deserved SOOOOOOO much more, it's depressing :(
I feel I speak on behalf of the _Kotor_ fans when I say the second instalment was the true ending for the Exile. What happened thereafter was left to the fans to ponder. What came after in the books and later games were not true to the originals. Revan should have remained masked and somewhat silent and The Exile was on par with Revan, if not a better warrior but with Revan being more strategic- perhaps.
They should continue the story in a Third instalment and simply act as if the others didn’t exist 😂.
*NotMyExile*
Most KOTOR fans probably headcanon the Revan novel and SWTOR out of the story.
I think that her and revan ending in swtor and the books might have been the right ending because of what traya says to the exile in kotor 2. That the force has its own will and all those force users, especially the strong ones like meetra and revan, are playballs for the force and that they will die, like all the others before and after them.
@@100StarWars I thought I was the only one lol
They killed the Exile?? DAMN THEM.
They did indeed :(
*Goes on to become one of the greatest fighters in the war against armour-clad, world-destroying brutes, becomes a wound in the force, trains the true Jedi who would one day rebuild the Order, defeats the Sith Triumvirate (who are three of the deadliest and most interesting Sith Lords who have ever lived), goes onto rescue the Prodigal Knight...*
...and gets instantly killed with a literal backstab.
*What the fuck is this horseshit?!*
Payback for Nihilus.
@@tommygunengineer9184 It's called bullfuckingshit writing and a sad destruction of a character that is not even Bioware's. It's funny how through the story of the The Exile Obsidian actually made Revan a more of a BADASS than Bioware did in KOTOR 1.
I just hope somehow Disney retcons the Revan novel and allows us to have a KOTOR 3 with both The Exile and Revan.
@@coinkidink9997 You're actually HOPING that Disney will give us what we want?
Lol, good one!
I think the reason I hate the fate of Revan and Meetra in the novel is because, in a franchise that kinda/gets off on its happy endings, I feel like these two, Bastila included, were warranted some. These weren’t just characters that we saw and fell in love with (Luke, Leia, Han, etc), but characters who we actually were. Characters who we spent hours, if not days or weeks, embodying. And to see them essentially get washed to make way for the MMO just hurts me. I love The Old Republic, but I tend to ignore the Revan stuff, because the fates of the characters just sours me.
Man I really like the portraial of Revan and Meetra Surik in the KotOR series, but you just made me both scared and curious about that novel. Is it the one titled "Revan"? Might take a look.. Didn't care that much for Bastila due to how annoying she was in KotOR 1 (the memes about her being so defiant of Malak while he was torturing her, only to turning DSide in the next in-game 5 minutes, were hilarious tho, ngl)
@@nmpltleopardi It is indeed the one called Revan. If you really want to read it, then by all means, it’s an interesting read. But if you go into it being a big fan of KOTOR and KOTOR 2, you’re probably gonna be pissed off.
To me there is a difference between the Jedi Exile and Meetra Surik, which is strange to say, but not unreasonable. I say that because the character of the Jedi Exile in KOTOR II was very powerful and had a very strange connection to the force as she was a wound in the force and created intense force bonds, etc...
By Contrast, Meetra Surik in The Old Republic: Revan by Drew Karpyshyn, which is where she gets her canonized name and gender is just a secondary character that while a strong light side jedi is nothing special. Karpyshyn really tones her down compared to her game incarnation, which I get why as the book is primarily about Revan. but still, the author did her a grave misservice in the book. I know they had to write things a certain way for the SWTOR game that was coming out and needed things to line up properly for the direction that game was taken. Regardless, I think the Exile got the short end of the stick.
I echo your thoughts exactly. Although I like the name 'Meetra Surik' and her being a female character, that's about it. They're definitely different characters in my eyes too. The Drew version of The Exile is so disrespectful to the character Chris Avellone created for KOTOR 2. Which is funny, because The Revan character that Drew made for the book 'Revan' was so disrespectful to the character he had created for KOTOR 1 😂
100% Star Wars Well in all fairness I doubt that the outcome of the book was even Drew’s vision. Think about it. You don’t give your baby a very embarrassing and disappointing end. I believe it was BioWare that told Drew what the outcome should be so they could line it up with their sub par mmo
I absolutely agree. Meetra’s appearances in the book and SWTOR were a severe insult to the character. All of KOTOR 2 seems to be glossed over as having not happened, or as being irrelevant, which is really thoroughly frustrating. The book in particular is poor with this, completely ignoring the destruction of the Jedi Order, but the MMO does the same. Meetra pretty much saved and rebuilt the whole damned Jedi Order, but in all of the Star Wars EU, her name has never been spoken aloud.
So...yeah. Sad times. She is such a wonderful character, one of the most intriguing Jedi we’ve ever seen, but Bioware just threw her away as disposable canon fodder.
Cailus Griffin Your comment is exactly how I feel.. so thanks.
I hope they ret-con what happened with Revan and The Exile and just give them the endings they deserve.
@@100StarWars Agreed on both points!
Nice one! Can't believe she fell to a backstab though, of all things.
Blame Drew Karpyshyn for that! XD. No not really, he's made some really good stuff, but it's clearly a shoehorn for the characters and it was a lazy attempt.
It was the only way she could fulfill the role Karpyshynn wanted, which is a massive crutch in his writing - when he needs something to happen, the skill, power, and experience of a character means nothing. She's powerful enough to dissolve into the Force and become a Force spirit to strengthen Revan (an unusual ability in the Old Republic), but not powerful enough to see Scourge's sudden treachery.
It's why each character in both KotoR I and II get captured over and over again (often by chumps) while still being able to overthrow Malak, Sion, Nihilus, and Traya.
she didnt see scourge's betrayal coming because he did not decide or intend to betray them until the last second where he had his final vision. his betrayal wasnt a true betrayal but a set-up to pave the way for the jedi who would eventually kill the emperor. he was still on their side even when he was killing meetra. thats why she never saw it coming, because there was no treachery present in his mind.
I can actually buy that but I'm a bit too ready to see problems in Karpyshynn's writing when they seem to be consistent with other genuinely poor moments. I think Karpyshynn has some amazing ideas but he can be really lazy in some places. I shouldn't bring too much negativity though, since you're right, that's a fair point and plausible reason.
@@100StarWars
Karpshyn only did this to drag Revan to the MMO where Revan's popularity would make sure that more people played the game and to squeeze even more money out of it by using it on an expansion.(I don't think Drew is entirely to blame though. It's likely that Bioware and EA demanded him to find out some way to shoehorn Revan to the MMO)
Always loved kortor really wish we could get a kortor 3 with meetra and revan together on the battlefeild would be awesome to see but we got the old republic instead lol
I'm not much of a fan of the SWTOR stories. I enjoy is as a game, but not as a KOTOR sequel.
100% Star Wars same here bro i like swtor but would have prefered a kortor 3 personally anyway
I've got my fingers crossed that we get a reboot one day!
100% Star Wars i wouldnt even mind a remaster of the first two but still need a third to end it i reckon
I WOULD LOVE a remaster so much. Could you imagine it completely visually overhauled, with new content and characters and quests!?
You are by far one of the best Star Wars CZcamsr out there...your content is amazingly detailed and informative...Thank you
Thank you so much, that means a lot :)
a character liked this earned a better end to her adventure
Hopefully if/when they canonise the games, they'll retcon her death.
one thing i don't like is that they gave the player character the name Meetra Surick. I never named my version of the Exile that name.
I quite like the name personally.
It's just. It's the player character If they just called the character The Exile or something and say that The Jedi Exile was male or female it would feel better. Espeecially Since I always play as a male jedi
Aye, but when you want to make a canonical character, you have to set some parameters.
True. Even though The Old Republic Era is no longer canon. Though they are trying to bring it back inch by inch. Revan I consider cannon cause they were about to introduce him to the newer Clone Wars TV show.
I named my character Darth Exileus XD
Meetra was a badass character in KOTOR! I agree with you about all that! I loved the SWTOR game too, but I wish Meetra and Reven didn't have to go out the way they did to make that happen. But its not canon anymore so fingers crossed for a remake!
If SWTOR didn't have anything to do with KOTOR, I would've loved it! And fingers crossed. Things like the Ebon Hawk's ship class and hammerhead cruisers are now canon so we have to wait and see!
If I am right informed there will be a kotor based movie soon.. Do you guys have some more information? Cheers
She's in my opinion, the best written female character in all of Star Wars.
I think Kreia is a bit superior but Meetra is awesome!
Love your contents... the beautiful enriched lore of the Kotor series and the most magnificent storytelling for it's time and all time I believe!
Am really glad you are keeping them alive for future Star Wars fan as well as nostalgic fans such as me!
Great job! 👌👌
Thank you for the kind words! Really glad you enjoy it :)
I've always loved the fact that she returned to the Council after the Mandalorian Wars to face judgement.
She's an honest kinda gal.
KOTOR 2 was 100% the better game in my opinion. Even with bugs and missing content it was amazing. The restored content mod only further distanced itself from the first game.
I still hate what SWTOR did to Revan and Meetra.
Well hope you're ready for a rebooted Disney canon of Kotor and Kotor 2.
No Malakor V and possible reckoning of many things from the EU.
Awesome channel.. I love SWTOR and how in depth these character biographies are, so thank you.
Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoy them!
My friend I had to come back to this video again like last year because this is where it all started for me. It's been 3 years now since I discovered this video after watching Darthycey's videos about Meetra Surik because she's such a fascinating character and began corresponding with you. I've so enjoyed watching all your videos to understand the vast galaxy of Star Wars since before I met you my knowledge of KOTOR came from the fan made videos. It also means so much to me that you've also put up with me for this long😂only 4 episodes of Clone Wars left and I'm not happy about it. We have no more Star Wars content after Clone Wars ends because the Mandalorian won't return until October and it's just rumor going around about a sequel to the Rebels series. All we have left is the Star Wars comics? Anyway thank you my friend for letting me be a part of the Star Wars universe with you. Please take and be safe in these uncertain times we're in🙏
Disappointed you didn't go into her most amazing ability, force thiccness. 3/10 not enough thiccness. 😔
Just know I consider her to be one of The Greatest Jedi Masters to have ever lived and I consider her official master to be Kavar because I feel like he’s a great teacher for someone like Meetra Surik that and because there’s just something about him I like dunno what it is but I just like him
The fact she strolled into the Traya Academy and took down scores of dark jedi and sith on her lonesome is Gat Damn Epic...
Seen as I'm the one that did it 😎
Basically the female Star Wars Version of Kazuma Kiryu from Yakuza
One-shotting entire rooms with force storm had me on a power trip
@@MenagerieOfMadness501 imagine their shock seeing a Jedi use Lightening Storm
Another great video, man. Looking forward to more.
Thank you! If you have any friends who love Star Wars, don't forget to send them this way. Building a community is hard, but if we all come together, then it may just happen :) Thanks for watching again man, I appreciate it!
So THAT'S what happened in KOTOR 2. I feel complete and fulfilled after all these years.
Poor T-3 :(
💔💔 T3 Forever in our hearts 💔💔
Knowing at least the ending of Revan and the Exile is oddly satisfying, thanks for the video mate!
I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
My friend I had to again come back to this video because this is where it started for me knowing about you back in April 2017. It's been 4 years now since I started corresponding with you and on this video. After I had watched all of Darthycey's videos on Meetra Surik the Jedi Exile i was curious and fascinated to know more about her and that's when I discovered your CZcams channel. Going back to your last video I also enjoyed watching Meetra's story arc from KOTOR 2 but I have to say I liked how Darthycey changed the ending of Meetra being killed by Lord Scourge when rescuing Revan. Meetra Surik's story arc deserved a better ending and I agree with you that SWTOR treated her character terribly in the game. Your friendship has meant a lot to me my friend
I had to come back to this after the recent TOR update. Almost felt like they were trying to rectify what happened in the Revan novel.
Please keep up the good work !! Much love
Thank you :D
That piano version of Rebuilt Jedi Enclave at the end gave me chills throughout my entire body...
Thank you for sharing be sure to put this in the next story you tell about meetra surrik! Thank you my friend ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Bioware did not create "Meetra Surik" so they killed her. They shit on Obsidian's creation.
I was reading Revan and as soon as I heard them Reference Meetra i came here.
Saved me a good 7 hours mate thanks 🙏
Finally Meetra's story comes fully circle :' ) I appreciate SW: TOR Online a lot more now.
Too little too late honestly. That should've been the ending of Kotor 3, with all of them ALIVE.
Nooooooo! T-3 😭😭
I know 😭😭
I hate how they killed the exile but tbh...it hurts way more that they destroyed T3
The Exile worked on ships traveling in the Outer Rim, like Anakin the Exile is a Force mechanic.
I could only imagine the smile on Meetra’s face when she went to meet Bastilla and saw a small brown haired boy about 4 years of age nervously hiding behind Bastilla looking at Meetra only to find out this was Revan’s son Vaner
Awesome. I didn’t know Meetra’s story after the game. Cheers
I'm glad you enjoyed it and I could be of help!
Canderous would be a good story
As Canderous is involved in both games and had contact with both Revan and Meetra and held both in high esteem and had friendships/bonds with both
He does indeed have a long story! Maybe one day :)
I love your channel, your content, and especially your writing and narrative style. It makes me wish you’d consider writing SW short stories and novellas, especially about Revan. Not necessarily about changing his history, so to speak, but maybe using artistic license to do a story about some mini adventures to fill in the spaces between his major plot points. And of course something similar with Meetra, Bastilla, Satele, Tasiele, and all the other ‘real’ SW heroines.
Great video. I’ve never played KOTOR 1 or 2 but this character looks cool
Never?! Oh man, go play them ASAP!
oooh, nice one, I'm really enjoying this series :)
Means a lot to know that people are enjoying it! If you have any Star Wars friends who would enjoy this channel, I'd really appreciate it if you would share it around with them to help build the community! :)
Who else is disappointed with the fact the the exile lost to Darth nihirous or what ever she was called. I mean killing three of the most deadly Sith in an row and then oh look a member of the dark council time to die
Oh I certainly am. But that was only done to prove how powerful the true sith were, but it was a complete a disrespect to Meetra nonetheless.
100% Star Wars well they must have forgotten that while making swtor
what are you talking about. She lost only to the Emperor. Bc she got snitched from Scourge.
those sith were not TRUE sith. they did not grow their powers in the same way the true sith empire cultivated their acolytes. nihilus, traya, and sion were weaklings compared to nihirous and the other sith on the dark council.
Obi-Wan Kenobi Her name is spelled Nyriss.
... yea, very disrespectful and inglorious ending of the story about one of the greatest heroes in Jedi history... another sad thing is that she could not [or didn't even attempt ?] to reform the Jedi Order [preferably the Code too] with all the wisdom she gained from Kreia and personal experience. So Jedi stayed stagnant inquisitory Order for centuries while the Sith evolved multiple times ...
Supposedly, but good old SWTOR made sure none of that made any difference!
Unlike people behind sequel trilogy 🤢
Is Tatooine a wound in the Force too ? That's kinda the impression I was under when the Tuskan Raiders explained their history. And it would explain a lot of stuff.
thanks a lot for this video bro. i needed this since kotor 3 never came to be
Glad you enjoyed it :)
This was an extremely well-written explanation of this Jedi character. Genuinely impressed, especially considering the complexity of the source material. I agree that the mmo story really did not do her justice - really disappointing. I'd love if we could get another Star Wars game like KOTOR and KOTOR 2, but considering they're officially Disney-non-canonical I highly doubt that. Suppose we'll just have to leave that to fanfiction!
Thank you, that means a lot ❤ I think we'll see some more KOTOR stories in the future, it only makes sense. But with that, I don't think they'll have the same quality, because they're likely to be very restrained in how far they can go with the storytelling. Whether they will be games though, I don't know.
TOR ruined both Darth Revan and the Exile with the book. They shouldn't had man the characters with a defined template and ret-con everyone's choices to the writers own. They should've just either avoided the characters or not be directly involved. This is just really annoying for fans of the games to know anything they make is now meaningless because TOR subverts it all. The book as well. But yeah, fuck you EAware and #NotMyCanon
Unknown Killer You know that the book only connected TOR with KOTOR? I like the book a lot. The book cant make revan slay the emperor when the game shows something else. The book would ve been different if Bioware didnt butcher the kotor series
MMMM delishous Star Wars subversion.
don't you just love it when you order a chocolate milk shake and it turns out to be strawberry, that really subverts my expectations and makes me feel grateful, I hate getting what I ask and pay for.
(sarcastic comment)
@@Kalleosini what the fuck are you on about?
Ah they couldn't be canon unless they jad real background period. But book revan did ruin both revan and exile
I agree but How exactly did the TOR destroy their characters? What do you mean by giving them a defined template
enjoying these videos. Cool fan art.
I'm glad you're enjoying them :)
I Love the Exile and your videos the best.
Thank you!!
14:25 and on you play a piano cover of the restored Jedi Enclave music from KotOR 2, one of my absolute favorite tracks in the whole game. But I can't find it anywhere on Lucas King's channel! Do you know what it's called?
It's a strange one xD It's on a channel called Lucas King - But I'm not completely sure if it's THE Lucas King. I've contacted him to see if it is, but I never got a response. Anyway, here is the cover - czcams.com/video/wGkD8WLI_gs/video.html
100% Star Wars Ha, that is odd! Nonetheless, thank you!
No problem!
10/10 - would watch again
Watch it again then Boiii. Get me those views
Getting backstabbed and died huh?
What a sad ending for the greatest student of Kreia...
Fun video idea, Revan, Meetra Surik, and Alek while they are all still serving the light side, but basically right after the Mandalorian war, get sucked through a wormhole into the future to the initial outbreak of the Clone Wars. How does is change things?
i felt a bit of desperation while playing kotor 2 due to the state of the galaxy, but i realized i actually liked not having any insane fleets in play like sith armada from kotor. i like the idea of skilled, powerful force user travelling the galaxy. dealing with everyday ppl problems.
SWOTOR was an insult to KOTOR’s legacy
I absolutely jumped out of my skin on the random cough near the end.
You are playing a dangerous game sir.
If there's no danger there's no fun right? ;)
My friend I've come back to this video because this is where it started for me 2 years ago in April 2017 when I first started corresponding with you. After watching Darthycey's videos on Meetra Surik I wanted to know more about her and that's when I discovered this video and your channel. I've enjoyed all your videos and the friendship you've shared with me on your knowledge on Star Wars. My friend I've missed you because it's been 3 months since your last video, I hope your not quitting CZcams because it would really be a shame.
On other issues I found out that the Clone Wars series is coming back in November, Star Wars Celebration is coming up this month and Mark Hamill is voicing Chucky for the reboot of Child's Play!!! I was shocked when I heard they asked Mark to voice the killer doll but then again I couldn't believe it was him who was voicing the Joker in the Batman series. He will always be Luke Skywalker to me so I wish he wasn't going to voice Chucky!!! My friend I hope you'll be coming back soon, take care and may the force be with you. George
I'm not quitting, don't worry!
....then meetra came back to defeat the emperor once and for all ( SWTOR onslaught)
My opinion...that's a dumb ending for the exile to just be killed/backstabbed :/
You and me too. I hate it.
I roleplay Meetra as Bastilla Shan. Makes more sense that it would be her finishing Revan's work either light or dark.
Shes super interesting. Her unusual and unique wound in force reminds me alot on blanks from warhammer 40k, basically a individuals who had negative souls so any powerful spelluser near them would have their powers diminished if not straight negated. Kinda makes me think on that subject, what if Emperor vitiate created some sort of ripple in force with hes obscene dark side sorcery and she was one that got affected on opposite side of spectrum, her soul becoming negative in a way cause of emperor. Kinda like same thing like in movie Unbreakable, emperor being like matter and her being like anti-matter. Imagine if shes destined to kill emperor and restore balance and have her wound soul healed trough it, could be an interesting idea for her expanded story ark.
Really wasn't impressed with the Revan novelisation. I mean, both heroes go out like beyotches! Can't one SW hero 'ever' get a happy ending? Even up to the present day in Legends, it sucks to be the hero, since Luke's wife is killed by his nephew! (Kinda like what happened in the new movies too.)
It's an okay book in its own right, but it's bad when it comes to furthering the KOTOR story and its characters.
Luke had a happy ending at the end of return of the Jedi!
They haven't made any more star wars movies have they?
It would suck if they ignored the title of that movie that flat out said Luke was unambiguously going to reestablish the Jedi order after saving his father's soul and over throwing the evil empire restoring freedom to the millions of worlds in the Galaxy.
Best. Ending. Ever.
Hopefully some hack doesn't come along and ruin that.
@@rockyseverino9230 okay okay we get the fucking point
i always wondered since meetra is kreia/Darth Traya's apprantice, does she mastered the floating lightsabers technique? if so it would be very cool
Great video for a great but often overlooked character, and you are quite correct how poorly they wrote the ending of her story. I'll never forgive The Old Republic for how it treated all the characters from Kotor 1 & 2, you put it very well how they where treated and it's truly a shame as they where far superior characters.
I just hope they get rebooted in some way in the future!
It was cool learning aout meetra never played kotor 2
Love meetra. Such a sad end.
She was actually trained by Vima frickin' Sunrider! Which would always caution her to be careful with Sever Force. Incredible
Really? Woah. I love TOTJ so much.
@amishoven It's Nomi Sunriders daughter.
@amishoven Jedi Grandmaster of the order after the great sith war.
Quick question where the hell was Bastilla Shan during the Dark Wars, she shows up at the end if your Revan was light side, but they never explain where she's been or why none of the other Jedi seem to acknowledge her presence. p.s. Who was more influential Bastilla or Meetra
Bastila was hiding to protect her and Revan's son - That's a good question... I'd say Meetra. Meetra was vital to the reconstruction of the Jedi philosophy as well as the order itself. She was a key figure in saving the republic from the Mandalorians, and brought down arguably the greatest threat in galactic history in Nihilus.
Bastila on the other hand played a part in redeeming Revan, and her battle meditation swung the tide of the Star Forge conflict, that's about it.
She also wanted to talk to Mical one of her closest friends ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤he helped her through so much at the worst time of her life
@100% Star Wars What kind of conclusion would you find be an appropriate ending for Revan and Meetra if KOTOR 3 was a thing?
My favorite jedi among with Kyle Katarn.
I hope soon in the years when kotor makes a comeback, Meetra will have a reimagined better ending.
It’s so dense every scene has so much going ob
What do you mean?
Dun Moch is not a combat form but a tactic. Further she was not one of the only Jedi to master it. Its commonly seen used by Obi Wan, Anakin, Dooku, Ashoka and many others.
One of the most complex and tragic characters in the entire franchise. Honestly a better character than Revan in a lot of ways, who is also right up there for most compelling characters.
That Papatia Quinn’s master was Bastilia and she was a beacon at an early age! That was I the one who taught them to see through the force!!!! ❤❤❤Papatia Quinn
Everything was amazing! ...Until TOR. Damn them for the bad writing of Revan, the Exile and their associations. So much wasted potential.
One thing that always pissed me off is how the Exile apparently becomes a Force ghost after her unceremonious death (seriously, the woman was a war machine. She shouldn't have been that easy to kill). Hoe exactly could she, a wound in the Force, a breach cut off from it that didn't have a true connection to it after the Mandalorian Wars, manage to become a Force ghost, which is effectively a sentient spirit within the Force!? Hell, if they needed her spirit they could have done something more interesting by having her be more of a sentient echo, not a Force ghost but a Force absence. Not sure how that would work, but it'd be better than making her a generic Force ghost!
I really think that makes sense. Like an absence that can be felt and heard like a ghost, but not a ghost. I like it! But yeah, I don't like how she died either or their treatment of any of the characters.
Thanks! Thought it would have made the most sense; it could be called something like a Force shadow, a presence parting it and flitting through it rather than emerging from it. Like in life, the shadow of her could cause disquiet and unease in those near it due to still being a wound.
Anyway, yeah, the games did not treat any of the old characters well. Even Revan is a shell of a character compared to the background we got before. Would of been interesting if they had actually kept with the original game in his case I think - that Revan himself was gone, and the person the Jedi had made out of him was his own individual, merely bearing the memories of the one who came before rather than being the same man with amnesia (so slightly similar to Steven in the cartoon 'Steven Universe').
If I may further blabber on - one theory I've seen that the games actually give a lot of weight for is how Revan and the Exile were not friends but rivals, perhaps even ideological enemies. It almost mirrors the Sith Triumvirate - the Jedi General Triumvirate of the Mandalorian Wars. Kreia, SIon, Nihlius mirroring Revan, Malak and the Exile.
Hmm, maybe they were rivals. But it's always stated that Meetra was his most trusted ally. Would he most trust his biggest rival?
It's far from unheard of. There are many accounts in both reality (Churchill and Stalin would be the first example coming to mind for me there) and fiction of skilled rivals, friendly or not, having to work together for one reason or another, and the rivals will typically trust in each other simply because they both know the other can get the job done well at minimum.
Besides, I'm not certain the Exile is ever called Revan's most trusted ally in KotOR 2 (the MMO and its books/comics may say such, but I don't trust them much due to how badly they treated the past content of their world). The Exile certainly had some form of mutual respect for Revan, and Revan certainly saw her as useful, but it seems far more likely that he trusted Malak over the Exile.
Oh I don't doubt that he trusted Malak more, afterall, they were like brothers more than allies. But in my headcanon, Meetra and Revan were extremely good friends, as well as trusted allies.
that is a tryuly amazing story...considering that it ties into so much lore...that is forgotten by diesney
Agreed!
Kotor 2, one of the best games and storylines out there. Rented this before the first one as a kid and never returned it lol the store went of business so didn’t have to worry! But maybe that has something to do with the video store closing.. or technology lol
It's one of my favorite games ever.
Can you do one of these about Satele Shan, if you haven’t already. She’s my favourite female SW character. And maybe do one on Nomi Sunrider? She’s badass too.
They both have really long stories (especially Satele) that wouldn't fit my style of storytelling at this present time. But, with that said I do want to find a way to tell their stories in the future in some way :)
Wonderfull!
I sense a great disturbance in the force my friend since I haven't heard from you in awhile. Sorry again I keep bothering you with my problems with SWGOH, can't wait until your next video. George
Star Wars Balance of the Force? That's the rumor going on about the title of the next movie since the cast recently finished filming. They'll probably release the title and trailer for it this April at Star Wars Celebration in Chicago. I don't care what's so ever about the Sequel Trilogy especially after seeing the Last Jedi movie, hopefully news comes out at the Celebration about when Clone Wars season 7 and the live action show about the Mandalorian bounty hunter release. As I've said many times my friend I'm old school in loving the old Star Wars of KOTOR, SWTOR, Clone Wars era and the Original Trilogy. I'm not going to say Disney is ruining Star Wars it's just my nostalgia of the past that I like. George
My favorite SW protagonist
I read some comments about how powerfull she may have been.
I always envisioned the Exile specializing in hand to hand/lightsaber combat because in the game she beats strong close combat characters without using the force. Plus when she lost the ability to use the force, it seemed logical to me that she would refine her CQC skills.
I would put her around the same level as Malak.
PS : I mostly played as Male exile (Meetro) because I liked Handmaiden/Brianna more than Diciple/Mical
That's a very fair reasoning! I think at her peak, she was stronger than Malak.
Also, T3, he’s the real hero. What a legend.
I know right. RIP Legend.
She helped to finally end vitiate/ valkorion/ tenebrae/ emperor
in what way? to be a ghost plot device? meh
Ur really good man
Thank you 😊
I can't help but think that Riven's character design and lore from LoL was inspired by Meetra Surik. They both are Exile's and they look are very similar in looks.
I'd like to see a story about Jolee Bindo, animated or live action. Animated would probably be better. You can break it up into multiple episodes. His adventures on the Outer Rim to his life on Kashyyyk.
Same, but I like it to be part of a grander story!
Needs an update to include the continued story in the latest swtor update
I just found out something extraordinary, from the current video I'm watching with the Outlander from episode 1 The Hunt for the Emperor he was the one who freed Revan!!! Master or Admiral Oteg summoned him to help free a Jedi imprisoned for 3 hundred years, they used the force to communicate with the spirit of a dead Jedi to help them and i couldn't believe it was Meetra Surik!!! I was shocked to see that it was the Outlander who managed to free Revan and seeing the spirit of his dead friend still with him all this time. Master Orteg is the same species as Master's Vandar and Yoda and he could speak to the Exile through the force which makes me believe that they could have helped her as I always assumed. George
Canonically, it's not actually known who freed Revan. I wouldn't take SWTOR's story seriously, it's a mess.
Then my friend theirs another story more interesting, Darth Malak" you can not deny who you once were, Logan Starr " yes I know who I am, I am Revan " to me Logan Starr makes a better Revan. Still no word on when KOTOR Movie Saga is going to release the Revan movie. George
Also you should see SWTORISTA latest videos their great. George
Again pal, I don't watch her stuff.
What about SWTHEOLDREPUBLIC? Their videos are cool for the games. George
kavar is my fav master from kotor 2