VW Engine Case Inspection -- Can it be Reused
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- In this video I will show you and explain what I look at to decide if I want to reuse an old engine block or scrap it. I owned it and used it in many different cars over the last 30 years.
Experience is a great teacher. Knowing what to look for makes all the difference.
Good to see you EZGZ. Great info! Down here we can get lifters +0.20 and +0.30. I often have to have the lifter holes bored.
Most all the cases I get are really rough and tired (hot third world country) It is amazing though how forgiving these cases are if you stick to stock. Built 14 engines up till now, only one came unraveled.
My first play with VW engine is a 65 1200 40hp stock pick up with extra parts for 50 bucks. Have to take it apart though to see why it won't turn by have a full 360 without a dead stop. Looked into the cylinders but nothing in there except oil and carbon. To me it's just a fun project to see what the inside of this looks like and see what I got. I know I have enough parts to clean up, test and sell if all else fails. Got a ton of tips watching your video so it will be very helpful moving forward on this even though it's an old single port basic block.
Hi Greg, good to see you back, thanks for sharing again.
Graham
Nice to see you again Sir, great video as always.
I was thinking to myself yesterday evening ,that ezgz must be finished doing videos and low and behold today here he is back again , great to see you again ,with all that great knowledge and information you have to share .
It’s good to see you back on here. I’ve been wondering about you, hoping you were ok. Thanks for another very informative video as always. Ramble on brother, ramble on! ✌️
And Breathe. There was a lot of great info there Greg thanks for sharing it.
I have built a few motors from parts other people were throwing away or I have swept up off the garage floor. Mismatched stuff I was told you can't use. The freedom that comes with not really giving a crap what other people say you can or can't do. One motor comes to mind that I still see driving around 10+ years and who knows home many miles later. Yeah it has low old pressure, yeah you don't want to wind it up much more then 4k or the noise of the piston skirts rattling in the cylinders will make your teeth hurt. But it still keeps chugging along, giving the current owner many miles of smiles. Have fun, experiment, see what some others are doing and in the end, just do something, even if it wrong, because ya just never know what you might come up with. Remember, too loose and nobody knows, too tight and everybody knows. A phrase stolen from another VW guy who just did and didn't care. Thanks EZ, I love your approach and the knowledge you are sharing.
I like the way you think. Great minds think alike. :-)
Lead, Follow or get the Hell out of my way!
Good to see you again Greg. What a brain dump of info tonight! Thank you as always for sharing your knowledge. Looks like snow still on the ground, stay warm and safe!
Hello again, EZGZ.
Remember me? I broke my engine. I now have another one, a AR 1600.
Thing is…I ran it with the clutch cable too tight which in turn,has made the hole in the thrust wallow out and go oblong,giving it too much end float. Would just a new set of bearing cure my problem and bring the endfloat back to spec?
The bearing still presses into the case,but not as tight as it could be. Would I need a align bore? Or can I just replace the bearing?
All the best.👍🏾🛠🇬🇧
Great Video, so Great to see you. Great info share . Looks cold there at the house. Got to watch again to write stuff down. Thanks for sharing and have a great week and take care my friend. BigW:-)
Good to see you again Mr EZGZ. Good stuff today on the Video, keep them coming we are ALL learning a lot from you. 👍👍
BTW; nice haircut 😎
First time I've made a comment on your page Mr EZGZ.
I have a 1600 engine I'm rebuilding for the first time ever!
And decided to keep it stock even though the VW garage encouraged me to go 1641.
So you put my mind at rest.
Been watching your vids now for some time and very informative and entertaining.
Thank you.
From simmark.
Thanks Simon, I appreciate the feedback. A 1641 rebuild will make a small amount more power for a short time but will NEVER last as long as a stock 1600DP that is well taken care of or rebuilt correctly. In ether case a camshaft like a Engel W90 will give a small boost with stock carb and exhaust. No need to go overboard there if funds are low.
@@TheEZGZ thanks for your advise.
Just got my stock crankshaft back from the machine shop so will assemble soon.
Keep the videos coming.
Really enjoy watching.
Most appreciated.
Regards
Simon
Thanks EZGZ for this video. I like watching your informative vids and look forward to them!
You wouldn't wanna move to Missouri, would ya? Specifically to the house next door to me? 😂
Awesome video with loads of information. I certainly appreciate you taking your time to share the knowledge. Thank you.
Hey, it’s been awhile since you’ve posted. Great to see the snow didn’t take you out. Been watching some class 11 builds on Utube and I think about you and your builds. I gotta get some heat in my garage , getting cabin fever here in the NW.
Good to see back! Great video 👍
Good to see you brother!! Great info as always EZ!
been a while Ez..great to see back here..a lot of people have missed you..dont stray again please..
My first was a 1641cc with a w100 and kadrons it was a great daily for 4 years. I agree with building a mild first motor, now that bug is my class 11 look car i beat on though last trip it pulled a couple head studs thanks to me being a lot more rowdy then I should've. I built a stock 1600 for a local officer. i just picked up a case for a stroker build it'll be my 3rd. I've learned a great bit
I'm always learning new things. Good Luck with your stroker :-)
Great info! New sub. Thanks. I can't wait to dive into your other videos. I'm building a cb performance 2017 for my bus (double cab, actually) and doing lots of research from old pros like you. Thank you so much for putting this out there.
Awesome! Thank you!
Great info been watching all your old videos.
You're a legend
It’s been a while hope all is well! I pray that you and your family is happy and healthy
Great info as always. 👍
I appreciate the comment and support. Have a great rest of your day Sir.
@@TheEZGZ also thanks . . Your channel help inspire me to start my own utube buggy channel 👍
Thank you. Very informative !
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video as always
Great information...thank you for sharing.😀😀😀
Awesome video! I hope all is well with you. Haven't seen a video from you in a bit. :)
Thanks for the info. Nice.
How can you tell what size motor vehicle Volkswagen
I still would never use cast crank. 4340 forged. 74 and chromoly short rods. If you put out any horsepower the cast will still break. maybe small 2 barrel or stock carb. but seems like a waste of money to me.
You don't say....? I must have gotten lucky when I built the 1776 using a cast counter weighted CB Crank for my 66. It was a budget build reusing the old case. Did not want to sink a lot of money into it. Seem's to take a lickin and keep's on tickin. The added crank weight made it extra smooth.
Have you tried that new extra heavy flywheel that CB came out with? Seems like a great idea for a bus or baja with big tires. Might have to try one of those. Seems like I'm always experimenting with the odd ball stuff. LOL
@@TheEZGZ no that flywheel sounds great for needed torque for those big tires. great thinking there.
@@TheEZGZ on a big engine it is best to use a lightened flywheel because they tend to rev quicker and that ads stress to the dowel pins and gland nut. We dont use cast cranks but they would be OK on a stock engine or low HP engine trying to run higher RPM on the freeway. seen several broken ones. For a few extra dollars those 4340 china cranks. are OK. They are all the same except for a select few. Mostly made by the same manufacturer CB might use the same crank and just check it better before they send it out. or machine the flywheel end. But still the same stuff. AA performance has them for a bit less money. or carcraft. Same stuff. Same with Aluminum cases. All autolinia. just stamped with different manufacturers signature like empi CB or whatever. Check with Jonathan at AA to get the good guy price for youtubers.
Ezgz I'm building a 1968cc type 1 with parts from my 1835cc engine. It has 041 heads stock rockers stock cam. Can you tell me what cam would make a 1968cc happy. Also what's your thoughts on a lighted flywheel the car is going to be used for the street. Do you have any recommendations for me. Thank you.
Everyone has a different opinion and even mine has changed over the years. Lately I’ve been real pleased with a mild cam like a Engel 100 or Scat C25 for an all around camshaft.
Most new lightened flywheel come with 8 dowels. Be sure and get the chrome moly and not the cheap cast flywheels. Don’t forget that o-ring seal inside the flywheel.
Hey ezgz, i have a dual 1600 that i want to rebuild as my first stock engine rebuild. Two of the dowel pin holes are wallowed. I checked the case gab, and it looks good. It needs a line bore for sure but is worth it to fix. Local machest is saying $150 to line bore and another 90 for the crank. Not sure about what else may be needed. But it is looking like we're getting close to the cost of a new case or long block. Thoughts?
Around here a line bore goes for $75
A new counterweighted forged crank is $150 so know way would I spend money on a old crank with bad pins. Good Luck with your project.
If everything else about a case was perfect except that lifter bore, could that be bored out and have a bushing pressed in to take up the slack? Considering the price of a new case, if that was the only thing wrong it seems like a feasible option. What say you?
I've heard of folks putting in a brass sleeve.
Who would have the time and tools to do it properly?
Who would have the experience to know how to do it correctly?
Who would do it and guarantee their work?
When a lifter bore is that far gone and the lifter has been beating on the camshaft that long and hard(50 miles) chances are the camshaft bearing supports have been beat out. They do not make oversize cam bearings.
It's all about mind over matter! If you don't mind, it don't matter.....
Honest question , id love a foundary but ??? How about add ons my block is seems trash
They make new replacement blocks but they are expensive. Better than using someone else junk....
Hey, I'm a new subscriber and I'm enjoying all the useful info on your channel. I'm building my first vw 1600. I'm going leave it pretty much stock maybe a little bigger cam and two barrel carburetor. The case I have is pretty decent but it had got water in it and caused some fairly good size pits in the sump area. I poked them pretty hard with a screw diver and none of them go all the way through. I was thinking about using some jb weld to fill in the pits sence this area doesn't have alot of stress. I really don't want to buy a new case and spend a whole lot of money sence this is my first build of a vw engine. I would like to know your thoughts on this. Thanks 👍
That JB weld is amazing stuff. I haven't used it for what your descrbing but if you clean it as best you can and then can gouge it out further so the metal looks bright and new you have a chance of it sticking better. Remember that thing has been under the oil and heated and cooled many times..... Forget about the cam and carb and just try to build it stock and get it to run the way it is without patching it. This will allow you to gain experience and see if you want to stay in the game. Then start saving up for your dream engine and buy good quality parts. You can always add 1.25 ratio rockers and dual carbs for the one you have.
@@TheEZGZ thanks for the advice. I believe I will keep it stock. Keep the videos coming. 👍👍👍
Hay ez what micron oil filter would you think is needed for the bug motor thanks
High efficiency oil filters are a type of bypass filter that are claimed to allow extended oil drain intervals.[5] HE oil filters typically have pore sizes of 3 micrometres, which studies have shown reduce engine wear.[12] Some fleets have been able to increase their drain intervals up to 5-10 times.
Personally I think it is more important to change your oil every 3k miles. Anything is better than the stock screen. I change my filter every other time. I buy something in the $5 to $10 range. I've been using a toyota filter on a full flow system. Most filters are bypass design so unless you want a very large filter it's going to be bypassing when the oil is cold or higher RPM. If I go on a weeks vacation and am only on the sand or dirt I change it when I get home no matter how low the miles are.
Good info. 👍
I have 2mm to 3mm end float play on my type 4 1998cc.
Is that ok?
A millimeter is aprox. .004 so 2mm-3mm is way way bigger
Hi Eze ,your case has the same score marks next to cylinder 1 as mine ,looks like someone has taken an angle grinder to it,is there a reason for this,nice vid as always
Cheers jim🇬🇧
Not sure. Thanks for pointing that out
500th thumbs up.
Hey EZGZ, who do you use to do your machine work?
There is a local VW shop that can line bore my case and custom cut the thrust. Other than that I just buy new stuff. New Case, New Heads, New counterweighted cranks and rods. New AA pistons. After years of trying to keep the old original stuff alive I've finally given in. Not many places that know how machine old VW parts and it costs them time to set up for it. Plus the turn around time is lousy and not properly done.
So what do you suggest to seal case halves, Curil T OR SIMILAR? LOCTITE? cHEERS
I've used them all. They all work GREAT! For a while......
Hey EZ do you have an engine building video out that shows a complete list of tools that I would need and where to measure and how to measure to rebuild an engine possibly with used and new parts. Or are there some good books or reading material that does this?
Hi Michael. Thanks for your interest. I have hundreds of video's on engine builds and VW maint. You will just have to go threw them and see which ones have the info you need for your build. In this video I showed a couple of books and most suppliers who sell VW parts also sell new build books. Good Luck with your project. It's a fun hobby.
Love your videos man! Question. I resealed a 1915 that my parents bought new for my 6$ bug 15 years ago. I put 5 miles on it and it sat ever since. It’s in my 65 now... my friend just gave me some used components and a case that he said was running... I was a marine diesel mechanic for years so I have the ability. Question is. The case half’s one says it’s a 211 on dual relief side and 111 on 1 and 2 side. I’m looking to build a motor out of all used parts to practice and learn these Motors. Is it possible to build a 1641 out of this as he gave me heads and new 86.95 pistons and cylinders? What would be a good cam to use? You would happen to be selling any used stock crank or lifters would ya. Thanks for your videos. Your videos helped me get my dual 40’s tuned on my 1915!
Screw the 1641 just make a super 1600. Thin wall 87 is junk. Make it last for the past. A cheater cam or maybe a Engle 90. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
TheEZGZ .. the pistons were free lol. But might be acquiring a stock set. Can I use 2 different case halves? It was a running engine... if it runs my buddy will put in in his car and run it till it dies.... thanks man! Hope your feeling better.
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10 psi / 1000 rpm, did you get that from Smokey Yunick's power secrets?
No, it's just a traditionally known standard as far as I know.????? Not sure where it came from but it works for me.
@@TheEZGZ its a good rule of thumb but not universal
Yippee 😁👍
best case scenario?
your choice and your pocket book
Great info, learned a *lot*! Only observation...too much of your hand in the video, I find it very distracting.
Noted! Why are you afraid to allow comments on your channel? You would really enjoy the criticism
@@TheEZGZ I don't have a channel where i'm looking for followers or to teach anyone. Any videos I post are just to link to discussions elsewhere on issues I'm dealing w/on my VWs, the occasional cruise for a club post, etc. I"m a complete novice, just keeping my VWs running as best I can. Sorry if my post offended you.
40 minutes of random jabbering and 7 minutes of useful information.
Kinda like real life huh.... Have you ever tried to make vid and put it out there for people to criticize....
@@TheEZGZ Maybe I could have said it nicer, I appreciate your effort and your knowledge, but I think you can do better by having a tighter focus and not just free styling for 40 minutes. Look at the title of your video, you literally could have put a case on the table, inspected it while telling us what you were looking at, and called it a day. Would have been 7 minutes of great useful information there. Suit yourself though, it's your channel.