The White Power Creep Continues with Phyrexian Vindicator

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  • čas přidán 23. 01. 2023
  • In addition to Elesh Norn and Mondrak, Phyrexia: All Will Be One features a disgusting new white version of Phyrexian Obliterator that ignores damage and redirects it to other targets of your choosing.
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Komentáře • 155

  • @joyboy1734
    @joyboy1734 Před rokem +255

    The white power creep was my nickname in highschool

  • @GamerGeek527
    @GamerGeek527 Před rokem +121

    Questing Beast laughs in its face.

    • @Nomo-sapiens
      @Nomo-sapiens Před rokem +4

      in that case I would attack with Phyrexian Vindicator instead.

    • @GamerGeek527
      @GamerGeek527 Před rokem +4

      @@Nomo-sapiens *laughs in Fog*

    • @Nomo-sapiens
      @Nomo-sapiens Před rokem +22

      @@GamerGeek527 I was pointing out that Questing Beast is not a straight counter. Im not going to play magic in the comment section.

    • @GamerGeek527
      @GamerGeek527 Před rokem +1

      @@Nomo-sapiens that's fair but like yeah i just find it funny that Questing Beast and i think one red card also from Eldraine are nice counters to it but not straight up counters.

    • @genesisbustamante-durian
      @genesisbustamante-durian Před rokem

      Questing Beast is objectively cancerous power creep.

  • @LolaliciousSmiley
    @LolaliciousSmiley Před rokem +79

    When I first started playing, I thought Obliterator was "When this creature is dealt damage, you sacrifice that many permanents." Like, it was a downside for having an undercosted 5/5 in black. Years later I drafted it in a cube and read it more closely. THEY sacrifice the permanents???

    • @marcwilliams1942
      @marcwilliams1942 Před rokem +22

      You read correctly bc there are two of them. the original you have to sacrifice, the second one they have to sac

    • @loxeggcheese
      @loxeggcheese Před rokem +13

      That card exists! It is phyrexian negator from urzas saga block

    • @LolaliciousSmiley
      @LolaliciousSmiley Před rokem +3

      Aha! I'm a dummy. Thanks y'all.

    • @willbryant9297
      @willbryant9297 Před rokem

      @@loxeggcheeseit’s def negator that makes it’s controller sac

    • @pw5975
      @pw5975 Před rokem +1

      It feels like a lot of my opponents make the same mistake. They gleefully block/nuke it... then there's a long pause.

  • @xavierc.7478
    @xavierc.7478 Před rokem +12

    I can't be the only one that got a little confused when I first saw "white power creep"

  • @astuteanansi4935
    @astuteanansi4935 Před rokem +34

    I dunno if I'd call it better. Obliterator can absolutely annihilate some board states and can easily put a player beyond any hope of recovery. Vindicator is not as high-impact unless you're infinite-comboing with it.

    • @Atmapalazzo
      @Atmapalazzo Před rokem +5

      It's worse, IMO. It can combo, yes, but opponent sacs a perm is better than a ping, and it remains the same until the number is equal to a life total. Trample also works better than flying with this kind of ability.

    • @pw5975
      @pw5975 Před rokem

      Vin is more stable, while obli is more powerful. I like em both.

  • @John_Smith_Dumfugg
    @John_Smith_Dumfugg Před rokem +6

    Careful with that title void lol

  • @krvys7226
    @krvys7226 Před rokem +3

    Me: Cast Wheel of Misfortuene. Hold priority, cast gideons sacrifice.
    Opponent: target?
    Me: Phyrexian vindicator
    Opponent: IM IN DANGER!

  • @michaelcollins4534
    @michaelcollins4534 Před rokem +1

    Honestly can't wait to see the rest of the cycle. Love the designs

  • @Slightly.Lost.
    @Slightly.Lost. Před rokem +30

    Pair it with double damage effects. Let's say you lightning bolt it. 3 doubles to 6. Phyrexian Vindicator prevents then redistributes 6, which is doubled to 12.

    • @elijahbuck6499
      @elijahbuck6499 Před rokem

      With double damage effects, since it says any target, it can just deal it to itself, right?

    • @Slightly.Lost.
      @Slightly.Lost. Před rokem +2

      @@elijahbuck6499 if it said any target, in theory you could. Vindicator specifically says any *other* target.

    • @elijahbuck6499
      @elijahbuck6499 Před rokem

      @@Slightly.Lost. I misread it, dang, but that’s neat

    • @moop6667
      @moop6667 Před rokem +1

      So play two shock and and infinite damage?

    • @Slightly.Lost.
      @Slightly.Lost. Před rokem +1

      @@moop6667 exactly. If you have two you could bounce the damage back forth with a Doubling effect in play until its large enough to fling and kill an opponent.

  • @NatureLiving0
    @NatureLiving0 Před rokem +25

    Hopefully it doesn't take 36 year's to complete this cycle.

    • @tagmata1872
      @tagmata1872 Před rokem +6

      hopefully it isnt a cycle, not every cool card needs a parallel in every color

    • @tyrthesemiwise304
      @tyrthesemiwise304 Před rokem +4

      ​@Tagmata18 while I agree we don't always need a cycle, this particular 4 solid pip phyrexian cycle is kind of neat, I'd like to see the RUG takes on it

    • @tagmata1872
      @tagmata1872 Před rokem +1

      @@tyrthesemiwise304 I think itd honestly be better if this was just a black thing, the og Obliterator was a spoof on phyrexian negator which was essentially the same creature but worse. this white one however feels like its kind of breaking the color wheel, i dont think any 4 drop white card should be this big and be able to deal so much damage with literally no downside besides the cost. plus green already has questing beast they dont need more amazing 4 drops
      idk it just kinda feels super pandered towards commander with very little thought on how this will effect standard/pioneer

    • @owentucker6215
      @owentucker6215 Před rokem +4

      @@tagmata1872 honestly I’m inclined to agree that this is a color break, but I’m okay with it in the context of phyrexia, which is a realm that inherently breaks and bends many color norms.

    • @tyrthesemiwise304
      @tyrthesemiwise304 Před rokem

      @Tagmata18 you know what, I'll give you that. As someone who really only plays EDH I don't often consider the impact on other metas. I'll also agree that it does break the pie a little. If it was only damage from sources opponents controlled, that would be a little more white.

  • @robloxplayer0003
    @robloxplayer0003 Před rokem +5

    And phyrexian negator is crying the corner.

  • @WestVirginiaCope
    @WestVirginiaCope Před 8 měsíci

    Pariah's shield to direct all damage aimed at you to it.

  • @mariokronert8040
    @mariokronert8040 Před rokem +3

    Video: It’s Better than Oblitarator.
    Me and my Tergrid Deck: Grr

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 Před rokem +2

    I'd like to see one of these for each color

  • @obadijahparks
    @obadijahparks Před rokem +1

    This is definitely stronger. Flying is better than trample for multiple reasons.

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 Před rokem +1

      That may be so, but Obliterator doesn't need strong evasion because no one in their right mind will ever block it.

  • @cultichorse395
    @cultichorse395 Před 18 dny

    Infect strats go nutty with the card if you use it right. Not to mention land destruction decks.

  • @JiboiaJin
    @JiboiaJin Před 6 měsíci

    That’s if it can stay on the field long enough to make any difference lol

  • @fatDOX8
    @fatDOX8 Před rokem

    my Truefire Captain is crying

  • @Jackie_3
    @Jackie_3 Před rokem +1

    The art for it is beautiful

  • @levels1937
    @levels1937 Před rokem +1

    Both die die pretty easily to the most used removal spells . Both hate on red hardcore with green getting some splash damage as well though So that is interesting. Although neither color has had much trouble with red really lately.

  • @Gravemindefiler
    @Gravemindefiler Před rokem

    Pariah equipment and some way to make it indestructible & hexproof...stand back due to no one being able to attack/burn you.

  • @unclerobbieslug
    @unclerobbieslug Před 9 měsíci

    I have this card and I so focused on damaging it I didn't realize till now, months later, it flys. Months later I just said out loud holy shit it flys too!?!

  • @earbitter
    @earbitter Před rokem +1

    this could make for an interesting abzan deck in standard. Hard to run obliterator and vidicator in the same deck, but if the mana is there you could just perma clear their board.

  • @gleeman959
    @gleeman959 Před rokem

    Pariah and Gideon's Sacrifice

  • @ReederMG
    @ReederMG Před rokem

    Give it Entangler and your opponent can't ever attack you

  • @sirChrisCTTV
    @sirChrisCTTV Před rokem

    Love the flavor texts

  • @gerardoramirez6854
    @gerardoramirez6854 Před rokem

    Great for firesong and sunspeaker decks

  • @cabbagedestroyer1693
    @cabbagedestroyer1693 Před rokem +12

    It's actually not a very good card. Let's say if it were to take 5 damage. It gets to deal the 5 damage out. Compared to the black counterpart, it would sacrifice 5 of your opponents' permanent, which is usually way more important in early games.
    Plus if you take into account damage cannot be prevented cards. This card is no longer that good, on top it only applies to itself, so you can only use it as a blocker.

    • @rileyjennings6701
      @rileyjennings6701 Před rokem

      There are some insane infinite combo's tho

    • @jmanwild87
      @jmanwild87 Před rokem +3

      @@rileyjennings6701 yes and those can already be accomplished with brash taunter which isn't breaking the format in half. this is good but it is not the nuts

    • @makesquash
      @makesquash Před rokem

      I think Obliterator is already pretty easy to play around and this one is even moreso.

  • @princesspixxie
    @princesspixxie Před 7 měsíci

    This is sick , as a Teshar player I wish it was 3 pips instead of 4 x

  • @thesun6211
    @thesun6211 Před rokem +1

    Phyrexia set appears to be spreading lots of monocolor Creature love, like Dominaria did for multicolor decks.

  • @ldeguzman
    @ldeguzman Před rokem

    Whoa! Deflecting Palm as a creature. 😮

  • @InsolentCrow
    @InsolentCrow Před rokem

    Was literally thinking of blasphemous act as you flashed it on screen lmao

  • @frankcastle9691
    @frankcastle9691 Před rokem

    It dies to removal.

  • @biagnirennie6775
    @biagnirennie6775 Před rokem

    Call of the Kor!!!

  • @MrBrown-yw4oe
    @MrBrown-yw4oe Před rokem

    This card is the white power I needed to come back to the color.

    • @evilanimegenious
      @evilanimegenious Před rokem

      Mono white looks like it's eating well this set imo but I'm a casual so what do I know XD

  • @ezrathomas7032
    @ezrathomas7032 Před rokem

    This is a funny comment "back-in-the-day" because obliterator didn't see play in standard back in the day.

  • @Tyke-Myson
    @Tyke-Myson Před rokem

    This is -nowhere- near Obliterator. Night and day.

  • @moreplease394
    @moreplease394 Před rokem +4

    There are so many removal spells that say "destroy" or "exile" that can kill this thing in Standard alone, it's such a horrible card. It's so funny that white is getting a retro power creep. Absolutely insane...

    • @maxxiderrick91
      @maxxiderrick91 Před rokem +7

      Ah yes, falling back to the good ol' classic "dies to removal" argument.

    • @stevenboland9271
      @stevenboland9271 Před rokem +1

      Guilty conscience (a 15 cent, 1 mana aura) + this card dealing damage = win on turn 5 without ramp

    • @jmanwild87
      @jmanwild87 Před rokem +1

      @@stevenboland9271 you can do the same thing with brash taunter. for 1 more mana without being restricted to mono white.

    • @albertoguarnieri5182
      @albertoguarnieri5182 Před rokem

      It won't see much main board play outside of janky combo decks but it's gonna be a sideboard staple against RDW and Soldiers

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      @@maxxiderrick91 when a cards main selling point is “it does damage when it takes damage” and does nothing else when you cast it that’s pretty rough. Also this dies to fatal push lol.

  • @Rothiii
    @Rothiii Před rokem

    Welcome Stuffy Doll 2.0

  • @TheKillerman3333
    @TheKillerman3333 Před rokem

    Lose all your lands vs lose all your creatures

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      Lose all your permanents vs maybe do some okay damage once in awhile to one player or creature.

  • @gabrielpinatecaballero1666

    This card goes infinite with guilty conscience just realized

  • @deathcore1097
    @deathcore1097 Před rokem

    Both. Both would be good

  • @anthonycannet1305
    @anthonycannet1305 Před rokem

    Instantly going into my firesong deck. That deck is full of burn wipes like star of extinction. “Deal 20 damage to each creature” that’s 20 damage dealt to a player now. That’s my 3rd brash taunter/boros reckoner… if I deal 20 to each creature and player with something like earthquake that would kill 3 players

  • @coopervaughter1440
    @coopervaughter1440 Před rokem

    Gideon's Sacrifice on them and obliterate your opponent

  • @chagen316
    @chagen316 Před rokem

    Give it deathtouch and a ping source and you can just remove creatures easily

  • @p50tek
    @p50tek Před rokem

    Its a bit weaker, but with bigger combo potential.

  • @J_o_B_is_back
    @J_o_B_is_back Před rokem +1

    The best thing is it will probably be cheap. It won't see huge play with it's restrictive mana cost.

    • @LowinBayrod
      @LowinBayrod Před rokem

      It probably won't. If it's wanted by most commander players and mythic, the price is not cheap.
      Don't get your hopes up.
      Don't expect a cheap reprint.
      Don't forget Capridor, Capridor is love, Capridor is truth.

    • @albertoguarnieri5182
      @albertoguarnieri5182 Před rokem

      Yeah, it's not like every deck splashing Black can also cast Invoke Despair right?

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      @@LowinBayrod it’s already $8 from 30 and the second it leaves standard it will 100% be a bulk sub $1 rare lol.

  • @lodevdb4179
    @lodevdb4179 Před rokem

    Give it Lure and just swing the to the player with most power on the board

  • @forcewars5691
    @forcewars5691 Před rokem

    Enchant with entangler, pariah, or guilty conscience which is infinite

  • @OctodadUnderstudy
    @OctodadUnderstudy Před 8 měsíci

    Thinking Star of extinction thoughts

  • @jweezy15able
    @jweezy15able Před rokem

    I just had a horrifying thought: what if the last thing to be spoiled are the the other phyrexian 4 cost beaters. I know it's crazy, but they made the Dominus cards in this set so I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @albertoguarnieri5182
      @albertoguarnieri5182 Před rokem

      I think they already figured out that the Mythics are all spoiled. This seems more like a two color mirror pair like White Knight/Black Knight anyway

  • @rulynewt1492
    @rulynewt1492 Před rokem

    Two of these out and a damage doubler/tripler kill any player

  • @RHCPpleasestandup
    @RHCPpleasestandup Před rokem

    Nice title

  • @deankrahling6060
    @deankrahling6060 Před rokem

    firesong and sunspeaker…

  • @patrickdee6646
    @patrickdee6646 Před rokem

    Stuffy doll tribal with an up side to target your stuff...

  • @MrHoneuma
    @MrHoneuma Před rokem +1

    Its going in my Light-Paws deck, and I'm going to stick Entangler on it.

    • @MrHoneuma
      @MrHoneuma Před rokem

      Well, I got 2 of them, so we're in business

  • @AtingsQuest
    @AtingsQuest Před rokem

    White is way too good nowadays.

  • @filippusledzki1059
    @filippusledzki1059 Před rokem

    It's like a vigor but instead of counters it's damage

    • @cabbagedestroyer1693
      @cabbagedestroyer1693 Před rokem

      But vigor is your whole board, whereas this only protect itself

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      @@cabbagedestroyer1693 doesn’t even really do that. No one’s using damage based removal on a 5/5 lol.

  • @tribute731
    @tribute731 Před rokem

    Blasohemous act lmao

  • @Kishimyu
    @Kishimyu Před rokem

    In a vacuum I would say it's worse but that's my opinion.

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      I don’t think in any situation it’s that good. Also hasn’t done literally anything in standard. If it has vigilance it’d probably be usable.

  • @Kraftigebub
    @Kraftigebub Před rokem

    For anyone saying this would be good in commander ...
    It is a creature that is only playable in a monowhite deck, or maybe two colours.
    It has no innate protection, nor any immediate effect on the battlefield. No one is going to block this. Or if they do it will be with a 1/1 thopter token.
    No one plays damage based removal on a 5/5
    And before you say "Blasphemous act" ... yeah, that's cute when it comes together, but both white and red have nearly no Sorcery tutors, so you're relying on random luck.
    And even then, 13 damage is a nice chunk but only a third of a players starter life total.
    And it's to one target.
    You're not going to target him with a burn spell, because then you could have just targeted the creature.
    The flying is actually a downside, because now most earthquakes wont hit it.

  • @pirateking518
    @pirateking518 Před rokem

    Put lure on it

  • @northerntarantulas
    @northerntarantulas Před rokem

    This one reminds me of spawn

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton Před rokem

    what i love about this card is finally White gets a card that's supposed to be "WHITE" so no other color combination is gonna want to use it. But why is it doing a Red color pie thing is my problem.

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      Preventing damage is white but yeah sending that damage to another target is more red.

  • @manyshadesofmedia3601
    @manyshadesofmedia3601 Před 5 měsíci

    Blasphemous act gideons sacrifice you're welcome

  • @hnjahnjah
    @hnjahnjah Před rokem

    Bruh.... Blasphemous act alone with this is just insane... Board wipe plus 13 damage to the face or walker?!

  • @ToxicSentinelTTV
    @ToxicSentinelTTV Před měsícem

    I still fuck with Phyrexian Negator

    • @ToxicSentinelTTV
      @ToxicSentinelTTV Před měsícem

      Also, Vindicator looks like he's on stage or on the football field

  • @Wo00064
    @Wo00064 Před rokem

    Calling this power creep is like saying my car got faster once I painted it

  • @newworldsound
    @newworldsound Před rokem

    I kinda think the black one might be slightly better

    • @jmanwild87
      @jmanwild87 Před rokem

      yeah like let's take the situation where someone who isn't the obiliterator's controller blasphemous Acts that person must now sacrifice their whole board. the new white one sticks around and zaps em for 13

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      Sacrificing permanents is way stronger too imo.

  • @alexiswigginton452
    @alexiswigginton452 Před rokem

    Myriad plus blasphemous act lmao

  • @ghoulofmetal
    @ghoulofmetal Před rokem

    I'd by no means call it power creep, but it is in the same vain and is in certain situations better and can go infinite

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      The effort required to go infinite with this is more than just using obliterator to set a player back to the Stone Age.

  • @heath1948
    @heath1948 Před rokem

    By the way, it’s going to cost an arm and a leg as well

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      It’s $8 which is only because it’s in standard. Second it leaves it’ll be a bulk rate for sure.

    • @heath1948
      @heath1948 Před rokem

      I’m sure you’re right unless it becomes very popular in commander then it will either go higher or stay where it’s at currently

  • @yoitsgunattack
    @yoitsgunattack Před rokem +1

    its just a brass taunter why are people hyping this thing so much i dont get it...

  • @aethershield4307
    @aethershield4307 Před rokem

    Enchant it with Guilty Conscience, deal some damage and it's gg

  • @makesquash
    @makesquash Před rokem

    I think card looks better than it actually will end up being. You almost definitely want to be running this in a boros deck but needing 4 white mana makes casting this pretty difficult in two or three colors. The same potential strengths of this card already exist with Brash Taunter and Stuffy Doll and I think those are more playable in most cases. Good card but not great.

  • @mikgenta
    @mikgenta Před rokem

    Not even close.

  • @dreamendless17
    @dreamendless17 Před rokem

    Pariah

  • @Nostalgicdreamer21
    @Nostalgicdreamer21 Před rokem

    Pariah anyone?

  • @freddymola2065
    @freddymola2065 Před rokem

    It's good but not $30 good

  • @axefro
    @axefro Před rokem

    Power creep? You mean getting good cards?

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      Getting “okay” cards. This isn’t even a good card it’s just a worse brash taunter that’s even harder to cast in a color that can’t take advantage of its abilities easily.

  • @ninjazwig
    @ninjazwig Před rokem

    Bro, you have to change the name of this video.

  • @leoncarlson5299
    @leoncarlson5299 Před rokem

    Pariah. End of conversation.

  • @stevesearle9144
    @stevesearle9144 Před rokem

    Maybe a different title... lol

  • @Playingwithproxies
    @Playingwithproxies Před rokem

    Also if you have two in play and any damage increase effect you can bounce damage back and fourth until it’s enough to be lethal

  • @nicholasgarzia4118
    @nicholasgarzia4118 Před rokem +1

    I read this as "white power creep", not "white power creep"🤣

  • @AndrossUT
    @AndrossUT Před rokem

    Phrasing!