In Nordic tradition it was bears and wolves, I am a shaman, a healer, and these animals headed people. They were revered as very strong, and tough. Warriors used the skin to fight in battles. Not devil, not evil, but strong. Wearing goat horns, and painting your face black isn't racist, nor is it evil. It is part of our folklore.
Nice video forJerry Afriyie & Kick Out Black Piet in Amsterdam (the Netherlands) they still have to learn a lot about traditions especially those of Europe, in particular the Dutch version which does not belong to blackface like 100 years ago in America with The Materials Show.
You're right But Vox or cnn let you see one side of the story and say of course it is blackface they don,t care about the real massage behind this tradition
As an American, it is ridiculous we have this “wokeness” that looks an everything through the lens of the US history when these traditions are ancient.
This is exactly what is going on, but these traditions will die out within the coming generation. It survived the church, but it wont survive modern society.
My question is how did it go from a bear, to a devil, to a black man ? Yes the origin comes from ancient folkfore, but the portrayal of "zwarte piete" in the 21st century with dark brown makeup ,big red lips, and curly black hair wigs comes from where ?
That is a very interesting question. And an important one, which I answered in the last december issue of a Dutch opinion and politics magazine HP/deTijd and in several Dutch books and documentary's. Of which one is available in the English language ('Wild Geraas' and 'My Encounters with the Devil') via paganeurope.com/ These articles, books and films are the result of a more than 30 years journalistic research for which I filmed in many European countries. Since these publications there is much support and acclaim from international scientist for my research. Summaries of answers to your questions are also given in short on: vimeo.com/361064978 At this very moment academics and scientists are preparing a publication on the academic internet platform: academia.edu, about my films. It gives a deeper explanation and insight in why Zwarte Piet got in the last 170 years these characteristics you mentioned above. You can also take a look at: czcams.com/video/LK3t2nO4TBo/video.html (after about 14 minutes 50 seconds
The first brown faces were on television. When colour tv came around, the national welcoming broadcast gave Piet a brown face, to be able to see his expressions. Another goal was to make tv programs less scary for children. The pitch black face was intimidating to a lot of people. In earlier times, Piet was used to frighten kids into good behaviour, and beating was an educational tool. Now we know that it is counter productive (and illegal). So Sesame Street's Count von Count lost his thunder and lightning, Piet lost his black face and became more and more friendly.
Lips & Wigs: beautification, tradition, availability: Traditionally, a burned wine cork was used to blacken faces, while mother's lipstick made your lips red. About every household had a cork and lipstick, so it's a simple and fully covering face mask. Then professional theatre make-up came around, which was easier to apply and remove, and more beautiful. We got richer and artificial wigs became affordable. The wigs were a blessing, as you didn't need to blacken the whole ears and beyond the hair line anymore. Another advantage was that kids didn't instantly identify you as uncle Bob.
Beetje laat gezien deze versie van je verweer beste Arnold, maar meer overtuigend kan bijna niet. Wees op je hoede voor de scrupuloze jezuieten, die moeten kosye wat het kost verdelgd worden, want zij zijn voor en achtet de de schermen de echte aanstichters van alles wat niet deugd op aarde.
In Nordic tradition it was bears and wolves, I am a shaman, a healer, and these animals headed people. They were revered as very strong, and tough. Warriors used the skin to fight in battles. Not devil, not evil, but strong. Wearing goat horns, and painting your face black isn't racist, nor is it evil. It is part of our folklore.
Nice video forJerry Afriyie & Kick Out Black Piet in Amsterdam (the Netherlands) they still have to learn a lot about traditions especially those of Europe, in particular the Dutch version which does not belong to blackface like 100 years ago in America with The Materials Show.
You're right
But Vox or cnn let you see one side of the story and say of course it is blackface they don,t care about the real massage behind this tradition
people of kick out zwarte piet don't want to learn. they only want to play victim and spread hate.
As an American, it is ridiculous we have this “wokeness” that looks an everything through the lens of the US history when these traditions are ancient.
This is exactly what is going on, but these traditions will die out within the coming generation. It survived the church, but it wont survive modern society.
I hope you realise how much it means to me (being Dutch) to see an American say this. Glad people are seeing through the woke nonsense. Thank you. 😊
I'm glad you seek education, before you judge. Hehe. Come celebrate it when can! :D
Very interesting, thanks!
Zeer interessant, dank U!
In holland we call this zwarte piet
Waarom omdat de Afrikaanen julie vrouwen heeft vekracht en zwarte kinderen heeft gemaakt tijdens moorse periode iberie Venetië 😈ahahaha
My question is how did it go from a bear, to a devil, to a black man ? Yes the origin comes from ancient folkfore, but the portrayal of "zwarte piete" in the 21st century with dark brown makeup ,big red lips, and curly black hair wigs comes from where ?
That is a very interesting question. And an important one, which I answered in the last december issue of a Dutch opinion and politics magazine HP/deTijd and in several Dutch books and documentary's. Of which one is available in the English language ('Wild Geraas' and 'My Encounters with the Devil') via paganeurope.com/
These articles, books and films are the result of a more than 30 years journalistic research for which I filmed in many European countries. Since these publications there is much support and acclaim from international scientist for my research. Summaries of answers to your questions are also given in short on: vimeo.com/361064978
At this very moment academics and scientists are preparing a publication on the academic internet platform: academia.edu, about my films. It gives a deeper explanation and insight in why Zwarte Piet got in the last 170 years these characteristics you mentioned above. You can also take a look at: czcams.com/video/LK3t2nO4TBo/video.html (after about 14 minutes 50 seconds
The first brown faces were on television. When colour tv came around, the national welcoming broadcast gave Piet a brown face, to be able to see his expressions. Another goal was to make tv programs less scary for children. The pitch black face was intimidating to a lot of people. In earlier times, Piet was used to frighten kids into good behaviour, and beating was an educational tool. Now we know that it is counter productive (and illegal). So Sesame Street's Count von Count lost his thunder and lightning, Piet lost his black face and became more and more friendly.
Lips & Wigs: beautification, tradition, availability: Traditionally, a burned wine cork was used to blacken faces, while mother's lipstick made your lips red. About every household had a cork and lipstick, so it's a simple and fully covering face mask. Then professional theatre make-up came around, which was easier to apply and remove, and more beautiful. We got richer and artificial wigs became affordable. The wigs were a blessing, as you didn't need to blacken the whole ears and beyond the hair line anymore. Another advantage was that kids didn't instantly identify you as uncle Bob.
The red lips are a remnant of the devil tongue's red color.
The Saint of Nicea saved moorish slave boys. As thanks they served him.
Beetje laat gezien deze versie van je verweer beste Arnold, maar meer overtuigend kan bijna niet. Wees op je hoede voor de scrupuloze jezuieten, die moeten kosye wat het kost verdelgd worden, want zij zijn voor en achtet de de schermen de echte aanstichters van alles wat niet deugd op aarde.