*REVIEW* New Coach Cassie Crossbody! Features, What Fits, Mod Shots

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024

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  • @itoshiineko
    @itoshiineko Před 5 lety +49

    I think it’s a modern version of the Coach Court Bag, not a Luis Vuitton dupe.

  • @stephenmayo8489
    @stephenmayo8489 Před 3 lety +3

    I always adore your reviews! You show so many features that are sometime overlooked IMO. The Cassie is one of my all time favorite handbags because it carries so much without being bulky. I also love the top handle! You make such a good point saying it’s great to grab when getting in/out of the car. In my years of collecting handbags, I have found my preference for crossbody bags to have top handles to grab just so that when I get out I can straighten out the long strap-I’m just fussy that way lol!
    Videos are just outstanding and I love your energy! ❤️

  • @fatalisticbunny
    @fatalisticbunny Před 5 lety +7

    Great review. I really appreciate how you talk about all the features!
    When I began my career in NYC in the 1980s, Coach was known for introducing "briefcase" type crossbodies like the Court and Station bags. I have always thought that the LV Metis is inspired by the Court bag. But, and this is a big but, I also think that LV took the general design to the next level by creating segmented compartments with the Metis. So while I think that the Court is the inspiration for the Metis, I also think that this Cassie model is a dupe for the Metis. The artistic influence came full circle from Coach to LV and then back to Coach. (Hope I'm making sense here!) I own Coach's and LVs, so I love them all.

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety

      You make perfect sense! Thanks for sharing this comment.

  • @Kay-jc3ub
    @Kay-jc3ub Před 5 lety +13

    I own this in the black leather. The inside is fabric that is a dark maroon-ish color. It truly does fit a lot. With the leather if you don't fill up the spaces it looks "flat" so to speak. So I had room to carry everything I could want to take with me.
    I own the LV; Favorite MM and Eva. So now that I own this one from Coach in Black, I think I just saved myself a ton of money and quality issues by not purchasing the LV Pochette Mattis.
    I see that the UK has colors Coach in the USA doesn't offer. I want the Beechwood color now.
    I would have waited for the price too to go down, but I wanted to make sure I didn't get someone else's return that they handled. (I'm just picky that way.) Mine came nicely packaged from the factory still.
    Love the review, and happy you found that little extra hidden pocket (I use it to place my card case inside it.) Your review, covered everything from what I can tell. Thank you.

    • @marysue8348
      @marysue8348 Před 5 lety

      Katie C. Von Maur has the Cassie in a beautiful beechwood with suede. Also, you may know, Coach has the Page 27 in colorblock beechwood half price $225 with an additional 20 percent off. I found that bag at Von Maur 75 percent off ($112).

  • @calicoquilter4472
    @calicoquilter4472 Před 5 lety +22

    I have an old Court bag from 1994 and while it is constructed similarly there are some major differences. The top handle is the same. The old Court bag body does not have three segments - it is a simple rectangular flap satchel, unlined, with a leather zip pocket and a back pocket. This current version has much better organization and would be easier to use. Of course, in 1994 we didn't have to fit in a Iphone or an Ipad.

    • @dianenolan8645
      @dianenolan8645 Před 5 lety +1

      I've seen the court bag and thought about getting it but didn't. The one thing I wish coach would have done with the Cassie is not line it. I love the raw leather inside..but it's a beautiful bag

  • @lori1389
    @lori1389 Před 5 lety +3

    This bag is amazing,you are right it holds a lot.Thank you for sharing and being so thorough in your videos and so honest with your thoughts. Keep them coming!!

  • @yiwei8050
    @yiwei8050 Před 4 lety +3

    If you don’t need it, you should not buy it just for review. I purchased a brand new bag from coach but got a one with scratches already. Probably that is the case returned to the store.

  • @Kressa1111
    @Kressa1111 Před 5 lety +4

    Does anyone else have an issue with the second loop on the strap sliding down and being 'overall' loose?

  • @YourDoseofBeauty
    @YourDoseofBeauty Před 5 lety +10

    Great review!! Best one I’ve seen yet!! I thought I really wanted this bag but I’m with you on this one it’s a beautiful bag but I really don’t need it! I will pick it up though if it ever goes on sale though! TFS 😊

  • @giovannataylor
    @giovannataylor Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this video. I got mine in the sand taupe and I love it so much I want another Cassie!

  • @MeticulousShopper
    @MeticulousShopper Před 5 lety +3

    I have a vintage Coach court! I love the bag so much. It's a great style and so functional

  • @4l1fersss
    @4l1fersss Před 5 lety +3

    I went to the coach store yesterday to check it out and really didn't like how it looked on me and I don't like the brass hardware. Was a relief because I was close to ordering it online lol.

  • @mauishopgirll
    @mauishopgirll Před 5 lety +3

    So a dupe is an inspired bag and this is not. LV didn’t invent the purse brief satchel style. I love LV and Coach both. The Court bag is a purse version of the Coach briefcases. I don’t link it to LV at all other than it being in the same category. Just like a bucket, a duffle, a tote, a clutch. I’ve always eyed the LV and when I saw this bag I just saw Coach, not LV. I had a Coach soft brief in my 20s and I love this as I can still get that style but in a purse as I have no reason for a brief anymore. Its an option in the same bag category not a dupe. BTW I appreciate that you didn’t focus on that for your video (always enjoy your reviews).

  • @alexandriamunoz2596
    @alexandriamunoz2596 Před 5 lety +9

    This is my favorite bag right now. I’ve only had it for a week but I honestly love it. I have it in black. But I love it so much I wanna buy it in this logo print as well.

    • @evamosch
      @evamosch Před 5 lety +2

      I am obsessed with my black one as well.

    • @marymoon5000
      @marymoon5000 Před 5 lety +1

      Would love to see black cassie review :)

    • @alexandriamunoz2596
      @alexandriamunoz2596 Před 5 lety

      Steadfast Love I don’t make videos I just watch them. Sorry though.

    • @DogMomStephanie
      @DogMomStephanie Před 5 lety

      Steadfast Love Autumn Beckman posted a video on that one recently.

  • @Truth1561
    @Truth1561 Před 5 lety +3

    I’ve had a navy vintage court for about a year, but it holds a lot less as there’s only the one section and no back pocket . I’m saving for the black leather Cassie 😃

  • @loveandlightnj
    @loveandlightnj Před 5 lety +6

    I have been lusting for the LVPM for a while now. I came across a video from Autumn Beckman discussing this bag, which made me consider the Cassie for all the reasons you named. I'm more interested in the all leather version but look forward to checking it out in my local store. This was a great video and my first for your channel. Looking forward to seeing more from you. :-)

  • @ladieofmagicful
    @ladieofmagicful Před 4 lety +1

    I can afford both but still chose the Cassie. You can only have so many bags with LV on it or at least I don’t want too many

  • @LadyEl85
    @LadyEl85 Před 5 lety +3

    I've been thinking about this bag for weeks now 🙈, instead bought the saddle 23 🤦🏻‍♀️. Thank you for sharing, beautiful bag 😍😍😍

  • @mayraotero4456
    @mayraotero4456 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you Mama Beech, I got two of them...I don’t need them either but I love it!

  • @emlo3584
    @emlo3584 Před 2 lety +1

    What crossbody bag do you recommend for that bulky eyeglass case? I am trying to find a crossbody/stachel but small that would fit a hard sunglass case and a 20oz water bottle. Any suggestions?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 2 lety

      Try a Gucci soho disco! It’s my favorite crossbody for bulky items and it’s totally carefree in terms of maintenance which is a bonus.

  • @janmarilynfanlevitan7138
    @janmarilynfanlevitan7138 Před 5 lety +1

    Totally Love❤️❤️ it’s a real beauty but I do agree if you’re not going to use it actively or on a daily basis it is definitely better to spend your money on something else that you love more.

  • @toi3761
    @toi3761 Před 5 lety +4

    The UK site has it in a saddle and beechwood. I can't wait for those to hit the US site.

    • @adrianadiaz6838
      @adrianadiaz6838 Před 5 lety

      toi I saw that too! Too bad they don’t ship to US 😅

  • @MsRoun
    @MsRoun Před 5 lety +5

    I need this bag in black. Lol I think it will be my travel bag.

  • @balabababachan1288
    @balabababachan1288 Před 3 lety

    sorry but anyone can tell me can cassie 19 fit ipad mini 5 (9.7 inch)? i am confusing cuz the smaller is cuter but i am afraid

  • @lsimonsen4128
    @lsimonsen4128 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello! Do you know if a Nolita 19 will fit inside the Cassie crossbody?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 2 lety

      I don’t know for sure but I *think* it would

  • @jachinoy1565
    @jachinoy1565 Před 4 lety

    I have this exact bag and on the side leather where the buckles are located peeled off in both sides so i gave it back to coach at it happened just less 2 months. I seldom use it and it was never scratch that's why is such a 🤨 surprised!
    Nways they replaced it. All good now

    • @maryanniemuslin3959
      @maryanniemuslin3959 Před 4 lety

      Omg! Ive experienced this also. Just bought abt 2 months and it peeled off on so many area 😭😭 unfortunately this items already sold out in Malaysia 😭😭 and i have to replace it with other bag.

  • @sp6812
    @sp6812 Před 4 lety +1

    Hello, I love the Cassie umm, I have one question for you does the coated canvas gets dirty easily compared to the pebbled one ? And also the calf leather is more prone to scratches . I am just confused between the signature canvas and the black pebbled leather for the camera bag. Could you please suggest me which one I should buy? That would be a great help.

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 4 lety +1

      Pebbled leather and canvas are both super durable and I’d rate them equally for that. Color transfer really has more to do with color than material type. Darker colors are much safer and lighter colors more risky. If you want a no worries bag I’d go for black pebbled leather!

  • @rebeccabarnes4863
    @rebeccabarnes4863 Před 5 lety

    It looks like it has 2 zipper tongues so, I am wondering what the second one is for? I am missing the "D" ring in the older coach bags.

  • @emisbagdog8603
    @emisbagdog8603 Před 5 lety +1

    It’s a gorgeous bag😍 The bag really suits you ✨ I’m planning to get it in black so this video was really helpful and enjoyed watching 😊🧡 TFS❣️🌸

  • @beatricethompson4340
    @beatricethompson4340 Před 5 lety +1

    I bought the Charlie carry all in the normal size in this exact colour...do you think it's over exagurated ?like big ..and you think it will go out of style anytime soon??cause alot of new ones coming and coming in . please give me your advice..or anyone..would really appreciate it..thank you..

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety

      It’s a pretty basic bag, so I don’t think it will go it if style. I would worry more about a tea rose bag or snakeskin - those are definitely trendy embellishments and may not be “cool” someday. A bag like the Charlie Carryall should be pretty timeless.

  • @HoloHoloAdventures
    @HoloHoloAdventures Před 5 lety +2

    This bag is cute! I’d love the all black.

    • @HoloHoloAdventures
      @HoloHoloAdventures Před 4 lety

      I finally picked up this beauty this past week. It’s a beauty!

  • @Susazeu
    @Susazeu Před 4 lety

    The bag is absolutely lovely, but thinking I prefer a camera bag of sorts because of the zipper. I'm looking for a Tory Burch I saw some time ago that being completely square holds more. Thanks to mugging in big cities I feel the need for smaller crossbodys to avoid muggers. Thanks for the review!

  • @Ch10eo2o7
    @Ch10eo2o7 Před 4 lety

    Thanks .. should have watch this before making the order for one.. but now hopefully my email to coach will approve my cancellation on the order .. this is great

  • @patyperez1970
    @patyperez1970 Před 5 lety +3

    Cute cute bag! Thanks for sharing!!❤️

  • @rileycherry
    @rileycherry Před 3 lety

    Thank you for making this! Very helpful

  • @lauriewalton7141
    @lauriewalton7141 Před 5 lety

    Yes your right mama beach I had a ted baker version 10 years ago copied from the vintage coach bag xxx

  • @elenamays2266
    @elenamays2266 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice bag! Great video. I may consider once it goes on sale or maybe hit the outlet. 👍

  • @Ellie-es4ms
    @Ellie-es4ms Před 3 lety

    I actually like this canvas version, I have seen the black in our local department store and I was underwhelmed. I like to get this or Rambler but I still can’t decide, which do you prefer for everyday? rambler seems more solid though but this is nice too.

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 3 lety +1

      I prefer the rambler, personally, but they are both very nice and super similar!

  • @Slightlyneurotic
    @Slightlyneurotic Před 5 lety +2

    Beautiful bag. Thank you for the thorough review!
    Could you please do a video on Coach retail vs outlet bags? I’ve purchased a Dinky from the outlet online as well as the boutique. The only difference is there is an F in front of the number on the creed on the bag from the outlet. The quality of the bags are the same. I was always under the impression that the outlet bags are lower quality than the boutique bags, but I am finding some retail bags at the outlet, which is amazing, but also confusing.

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety +5

      There are two types of bags sold at outlet locations: made for factory outlet bags and made to retail deletes. 95% of what you see at an outlet is made for the outlet. There is a difference in the quality of made for factory outlet bags and made for retail bags. Outlet bags will be an inferior quality. However, especially lately, you will sometimes find made for retail bags at the outlet. These bags were made for retail but didn’t sell for some reason (past season, not popular, overstock, etc). Many of these bags are actually retagged with the F in front of their style number before being sent to the outlets. I bet if you googled the style number on the dinky you bought without the F in front, you will find it was sold at the retail stores. By adding the F to retail bags, Coach is able to sell the bags for less and not have to uphold the warranty they give out on their retail bags sold at boutiques, which saves them money. So yes, there is a different in quality, BUT not with the dinky you bought. That’s a retail bag you scored for way way less! Congrats!

    • @Slightlyneurotic
      @Slightlyneurotic Před 5 lety

      Mama Beech thank you so much! It all makes sense now. I really appreciate your response ❤️

  • @ingamintz9931
    @ingamintz9931 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the review. I have the pebble leather version and it seems as if it stretches more than the canvas. I am not a huge crossbody fan but this one is a keeper for me!

    • @Leagomes23
      @Leagomes23 Před 5 lety +1

      Inga Mintz hi.. I’m still confused wheather the black leather or signature, thanks for your info regarding scrathes.

    • @love.one.another
      @love.one.another Před 5 lety +1

      @@Leagomes23 me 2, obsessed with this bag but don't know what style to get. stumped!

  • @nicoleloves9483
    @nicoleloves9483 Před 3 lety

    I think I've seen other people saying the pochette metis is the one who copied coach.

  • @angelat.9268
    @angelat.9268 Před 5 lety +1

    Hello! I just received my cassie in the same color. I love it already however, do you find that the sides and the leather section behind the top handle creases really easily the more you open the bag? You seem to have such ease opening the flap all the way. Thank you!

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety +1

      I returned this bag but I will say when I had it I didn’t find it at all hard to open the flap. Now that being said, because of how the bag is constructed, that will definitely be an area that will crease 🤷‍♀️ If that bothers you, maybe the pebbled leather version would be a better fit.

  • @GLAmChicbyGliaza
    @GLAmChicbyGliaza Před 4 lety

    I love that bag! 😍😍😍

  • @planning_with_patches5860

    Any recommendations on purse organizers? I just bought my first coach bag and want to take care of it and keep it organized. I got the Ava Chain tote in pebbled leather. Love!

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 4 lety

      Depends on what your budget is. Samorga makes great ones but they are pricey. If you are looking for a cheaper option that’s still great, check out Cloversac.

  • @nanyabooboo4
    @nanyabooboo4 Před 3 lety

    Such a gorgeous bag

  • @latishacross3207
    @latishacross3207 Před 5 lety

    Yep I will be getting one I love that bag!!!

  • @marielafigueroa1999
    @marielafigueroa1999 Před 5 lety +1

    Good overview of the bag and what fits inside. Where is your umbrella from? Liked it is compact too.

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety

      I think I got it from Walmart. Might have been Target but I’m leaning towards Walmart. It was a couple of years ago so I don’t know that they would have this exact one anymore.

    • @marielafigueroa1999
      @marielafigueroa1999 Před 5 lety

      Thanks!

  • @hisforever1359
    @hisforever1359 Před 5 lety +1

    In love girl!!!! 😍great review 😍😘

  • @greeneyes8972
    @greeneyes8972 Před 5 lety

    Looks terrific crossbody !!!

  • @discod
    @discod Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much for the info on the Court option. I’m not a huge Coach fan so didn’t want to pay that much for the Cassie, even though I love it. Found a nice Court on EBay for a great price!

  • @rniallll5420
    @rniallll5420 Před 5 lety +1

    It kinda reminds me of pochette metis but on very a good price 👍

  • @StyleWithCathyOver50
    @StyleWithCathyOver50 Před 5 lety

    Great review, thank you!

  • @myPursesuitOfHappiness

    It’s beautiful. Thanks for this great review. Xoxo 🤗

  • @beatricethompson4340
    @beatricethompson4340 Před 5 lety

    Hi Mama Beach..how are you??love that Parker and the tan rust..need to ask u a question

  • @sindhumohan4886
    @sindhumohan4886 Před 5 lety +1

    Its looks like lv pochette metis..I like this bag

  • @Tatiana-cd1vu
    @Tatiana-cd1vu Před 5 lety

    Hi Mama Beech, thank you for doing the review ❤️ I got this bag in canvas too, but was a bit disappointed because it came all unwrapped - I’m weird like that, I like to see the bag nicely packed, especially if I pay a full price! But I am wondering if it’s because I requested gift packaging, do you know by any chance? Thanks and have a nice weekend 🌷

    • @Tatiana-cd1vu
      @Tatiana-cd1vu Před 5 lety

      Also, I can't tell from the video, but does the canvas part on your bag feel wrinkled to the touch, when you run your hand over it? Mine does, it is not flat and I am wondering if that is normal? Thanks :)

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety

      I dont know for sure about the gift packaging but it makes sense to me it might come somewhat unwrapped for gift orders. Most people buying gifts want it to “look pretty” when someone opens the box. I wouldn’t call the canvas on mine wrinkled but it definitely has a texture to it.

    • @barbarabrown3494
      @barbarabrown3494 Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Tatiana, I know exactly what you mean. I have ordered 4 Coach bags over the course of 3 months and 3 of the bags were not wrapped and packaged like they were brand new bags. I finally got fed up and called customer service and they told me the bags came from the retail stores. It's just ridiculous!!

    • @Tatiana-cd1vu
      @Tatiana-cd1vu Před 5 lety

      @@barbarabrown3494 hi Barbara, yeah I can imagine how disappointing it is! But to be fair, I am okay with little or no packaging if at least I get some good discount :) did you pay full price for all those bags that you received unwrapped? I also think that if the bag has been longer in the market, the chance of getting it unwrapped is much higher...

  • @TanyaArchwamety
    @TanyaArchwamety Před 5 lety

    Can i know if this version is already available at the outlet?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety +1

      I don’t think so. It’s still at the retail stores only.

    • @TanyaArchwamety
      @TanyaArchwamety Před 5 lety

      Mama Beech tq so much ❤️

  • @evamosch
    @evamosch Před 5 lety +3

    Great video. I made a video on my black one but chickened out and took it of CZcams lol

    • @marymoon5000
      @marymoon5000 Před 5 lety +2

      I would like to see black cassie review. I really want black one :)

    • @evamosch
      @evamosch Před 5 lety +1

      Steadfast Love I’ll send you my video tonight 😉

    • @ZoilaSolis
      @ZoilaSolis Před 5 lety

      Eva M. Awww I want to see the black one 🖤😩😭

    • @evamosch
      @evamosch Před 5 lety

      No worries I'll post it tonight until the weekend :)

    • @Kay-jc3ub
      @Kay-jc3ub Před 5 lety

      I would like to see your review too, as I also own in black. It's always nice to hear other's perspectives.

  • @Runzararun
    @Runzararun Před 5 lety +1

    Love this, think it will be my next handbag purchase!

  • @saramorales165
    @saramorales165 Před 5 lety

    Cute crossbody thanks for sharing 🤗

  • @symmetricalastic
    @symmetricalastic Před 5 lety

    One of my best friends is named Cassie 🤗 that is a beautiful bag

  • @nanyabooboo4
    @nanyabooboo4 Před 3 lety

    What did you end up doing? Did you keep it?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 3 lety

      I didn’t. Just prefer smaller crossbodies 🤷‍♀️

  • @paulineenewman
    @paulineenewman Před 5 lety +1

    This is a beauty.

  • @bestyledbystacey
    @bestyledbystacey Před 4 lety

    Great review.😊

  • @MIZZTEACHER1
    @MIZZTEACHER1 Před 5 lety

    Can you compare this bag to your Coach Parker bag?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety

      Unfortunately I already sent it back. I will say, based on my memory, the Cassie would hold quite a bit more and it’s definitely a more casual looking bag.

  • @msericaplease
    @msericaplease Před 5 lety

    Wow! iPad Pro fits?? That’s impressive!

  • @CoachCraze
    @CoachCraze Před 5 lety +3

    That bag is so nice. I really want it, but don't want to pay full retail price LOL. Such a cheapster. TFS!!

  • @140klana
    @140klana Před 5 lety

    Ooh I love it

  • @falie11
    @falie11 Před 5 lety +2

    I love coach. The leather is exceptional. The price is reasonable. Those other luxery handbags like LV are overpriced.

  • @melshesroyal6378
    @melshesroyal6378 Před rokem

    ✨😍

  • @karenlindgandrup
    @karenlindgandrup Před 5 lety

    Do you know if the leather is the same as in the solid color Cassie?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety

      It doesn’t appear to be. The leather on this one is smooth and burnished. The leather on the others appears to be solid-colored pebbled leather.

    • @karenlindgandrup
      @karenlindgandrup Před 5 lety

      @@MamaBeech thank you. I really like the smooth leather on your version af the bag. Thanks for a great video :)

  • @er-ii1rf
    @er-ii1rf Před 5 lety

    How come yours has a knob turn and not the Coach C-lock? Is yours fake?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety +3

      The C-lock is only on the leather versions. Canvas versions have this knob lock. I bought this directly from Coach’s website, so not possible to be fake 🤗

    • @love.one.another
      @love.one.another Před 5 lety

      @@MamaBeech really wish they would've made the leather ones with the knob lock instead of the C

  • @LolitaHansen
    @LolitaHansen Před 5 lety

    I'm in love with your 🎒 ❤️❤️

  • @gma904
    @gma904 Před 5 lety +1

    It's about time someone copied the metis.

  • @kadirkacir12
    @kadirkacir12 Před 2 lety

    Hanımefendi. Çantalar. Mükemmel güzel. Tedrık Ederım seni

  • @redjeweleleazar6639
    @redjeweleleazar6639 Před 5 lety +2

    I think it’s so unfair to buy and then return after making a CZcams review. If you don’t need it , why get it?

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety

      I’m just a normal person trying to decide if I like a bag or not. I ordered it to try it out, I didn’t think I would use it once I experienced what it was like, so I returned it just like a normal person would do. Would you rather me be fake? Just trying to keep it real and be honest 🤷‍♀️

  • @beatricethompson4340
    @beatricethompson4340 Před 5 lety

    Oh sorry u bought the Cassie . taught it was d Parker.lol..sorry

  • @srisoewardi9539
    @srisoewardi9539 Před 5 lety

    In

  • @kribbeck8547
    @kribbeck8547 Před 5 lety

    It is a copy of the Pochette Métis , Louis Vuitton, that is why I don’t buy coach or MK they only copy the high end designers

    • @MamaBeech
      @MamaBeech  Před 5 lety +10

      It’s actually kind of hard to say who is copying who here. The Métis is based on an older LV design called the Monceau that was released in the mid 1980s. The Cassie is based on an older Coach style called the Court which was also released in the mid 1980s 🤷‍♀️ Not sure which technically came out first but they are both really classic styles for both designers.