How Westside Gunn And Conductor Williams Inspired Tyler, The Creator To Rap Again | The Formula S2E4

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  • čas přidán 18. 11. 2021
  • The growing discography made by the Griselda founder and the noir-inspired Kansas City producer reflect the way these two visionaries have aligned to create something singular.
    Rodney Carmichael | November 19, 2021
    Westside Gunn may be a connoisseur of many things - art, fashion, champagne, even pro wrestling - but picking beats is where the man truly earns his self-anointed nickname, the Flygod. Simply put, his ears are impeccable. And when he stumbled across video of a producer named Conductor Williams demo'ing beats on his IG page a couple of years back, he knew he'd struck gold. What Gunn heard struck him differently than the grimy sound he'd made synonymous with Griselda Records. This was symphonic but soulful. Gunn was sold.
    "I spent the rest of the day trying to learn Conductor," Gunn remembers. "We reached out to each other and the rest is history."
    Conductor has become integral to the sound Gunn has curated for the Buffalo-based, independently-owned Griselda in the two years since they first worked together. And that sound has become one of the most distinct and influential in hip-hop. Conductor's loop-heavy production, dissonant and often devoid of bass, has a way of elevating Gunn's high-pitched barrage. As one-third of The Heartbreakers - the name Gunn calls his supergroup of in-house producers, which also includes Camoflauge Monk and Denny LaFlare - Kansas City native Williams works his magic like a jazz-era sideman, his select tracks providing the perfect accompaniment on albums ranging from Gunn's "Pray For Paris" and Mach-Hommy's "Pray For Haiti" (executive produced by Gunn), to Gunn's recently released double-LP "Hitler Wears Hermes 8."
    As two of the newest collaborators featured in this season of The Formula, where we dig deep into joint discographies between rappers and producers, Westside Gunn and Conductor Williams have already made a major impact. "Michael Irvin," only the second song they made together, served as the sonic inspiration for one of the biggest albums of 2021 when Tyler, the Creator rapped over the same beat on "SIR BAUDELAIRE," the opening song from his "Call Me When You Get Lost" LP. In this episode, we get them together in NYC to talk about how they inspire each other and what it feels like to know their music is moving the culture right now.
    CREDITS
    Host/Series Producer: Rodney Carmichael; Producers: Tsering Bista, Nickolai Hammar; Editor: Nickolai Hammar; Animators: Jackie Lay, Alicia Zheng; Director of Photography: Nickolai Hammar; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Annabel Edwards, Nickolai Hammar, Christopher Parks; Production Assistants: Amna Ijaz, Trisha Pickelhaupt; Art Director: CJ Riculan; Project Coordinator: Erin Register; Legal Adviser: Kimberly Sullivan; Consulting Editors: Jacob Ganz, Sidney Madden; Supervising Producer, Nick Michael; Senior Producer: Abby O'Neill; Managing Editor: Becky Lettenberger; Executive Producers: Anya Grundmann, Keith Jenkins
    MUSIC
    "Michael Irvin," Westside Gunn, Flygod Is An Awesome God 2 (2020); "Sir Baudelaire (feat. DJ Drama)," Tyler, The Creator, Call Me If You Get Lost (2021); "Rose Water" by DJ Face
    #westsidegunn #conductorwilliams #theformula #nprmusic
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Komentáře • 478

  • @MiloLamar
    @MiloLamar Před 2 lety +2782

    We need a Westside Gunn tiny desk concert

    • @arigato6864
      @arigato6864 Před 2 lety +148

      BRO that would be wildddddddddddddddddddddd

    • @327outkast
      @327outkast Před 2 lety +6

      Yoooo fr

    • @jayrivss9859
      @jayrivss9859 Před 2 lety +44

      Whole griselda needa too

    • @MiloLamar
      @MiloLamar Před 2 lety +25

      @@jayrivss9859 Benny & Conway have one, but a group one would be great

    • @godmaster2209
      @godmaster2209 Před 2 lety +12

      brooooo that would be lit. Imagine the live adlibs boom boom boom boom!!!!

  • @FromTheSouthmark
    @FromTheSouthmark Před 2 lety +1655

    CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM !!!!!!!!
    One of my favorite beat makers🙏🏼

  • @Devananta-Rafiq
    @Devananta-Rafiq Před 2 lety +766

    That Westside Gunn/MF DOOM chain goes hard

  • @thebonganizulu
    @thebonganizulu Před 2 lety +749

    Westside Gunn with a live orchestra would be an amazing performance, with Conducter as the conductor!

    • @romanogold82
      @romanogold82 Před 2 lety +30

      "Elizabeth" would be a great song for a live orchestra performance.

    • @REAL6
      @REAL6 Před 2 lety +9

      With a sprinkle of some Roc Marci verses.

    • @elijahhill6602
      @elijahhill6602 Před rokem +1

      @@romanogold82 That, Banana Yacht, and Jimmy Hart

    • @Polo22546
      @Polo22546 Před 8 měsíci

      @@REAL6AYO!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @blakelorimor7410
      @blakelorimor7410 Před 8 měsíci +1

      His new track kitchen lights

  • @johnnypeachbasket7323
    @johnnypeachbasket7323 Před 2 lety +414

    conductor's production on HWH8 is undefeated, classics

    • @ad34bballin
      @ad34bballin Před rokem +7

      Facts. Mariota's one of my favorite songs period.

  • @soufienkhalfaoui7593
    @soufienkhalfaoui7593 Před 2 lety +203

    Westside Gunn finally smiles and has no longer his psycho gaze. He seems to be chilling now. Good for the bro.

  • @DJFirstClass
    @DJFirstClass Před 2 lety +153

    🗣 CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

  • @el_mal_de_ojo
    @el_mal_de_ojo Před 2 lety +161

    Gunn has a genius artistic vision. 100% advancing the culture at warp speed.

  • @Sypooda
    @Sypooda Před 2 lety +611

    I love this duo. Gunn is nearly Kanye level for me and Conductor unique style is going to keep pushing him forward. Salute.

  • @ErnThaGAWD
    @ErnThaGAWD Před 2 lety +154

    We gotta give West his flowers man. Been a fan since Supreme Blientele. Forever my fav MC!🔥🔥

  • @sweetg3377
    @sweetg3377 Před 2 lety +292

    Conductor Williams feels like the closest thing to Madlib of the new generation.. very excited to see how he evolves

  • @aidanmcpavian5638
    @aidanmcpavian5638 Před 2 lety +129

    None of us are gonna be able to hear that beat without T voice in our heads saying 'ayo'.

  • @Sandybowls_9001
    @Sandybowls_9001 Před 2 lety +51

    "Ever cook half a brick in an air frier?"

  • @dominicsingh-uppal9130
    @dominicsingh-uppal9130 Před 2 lety +566

    I’d love to see Daringer on this, his beats are godly

    • @yani2499
      @yani2499 Před 2 lety +6

      and JLVSN

    • @wkwk1152
      @wkwk1152 Před 2 lety +4

      body bag type beats all day

    • @shadmaadeit9524
      @shadmaadeit9524 Před 2 lety +19

      Idk why daringer wasn't in this first.

    • @ianjudge5572
      @ianjudge5572 Před 2 lety +43

      Feel like Conway / Daringer is a good pairing, feel like my favorite Daringer beats are with him

    • @nonealike
      @nonealike Před 2 lety +23

      Nah put some respect on Conductor’s name. He laces Mach with some fire as well.

  • @vazin.
    @vazin. Před 2 lety +57

    Conductor is a living legend. please give more credit to this guy. you'll sleep so bad.

  • @YexaMusiq
    @YexaMusiq Před 2 lety +65

    I was introduced to Westside Gunn by Tyler because when I heard pray for Paris I loved the vibe

  • @gavin2131
    @gavin2131 Před 2 lety +22

    i love how we never hear a question asked, but this still feels like a fluid conversation

  • @supertoaster4010
    @supertoaster4010 Před 2 lety +35

    Conductor on Pray For Haiti was amazing. First beat I think of when I hear his name is Folie Á Deux

  • @Jamal_Yates
    @Jamal_Yates Před 2 lety +38

    Conductor, Conductor, Conductor.

  • @Jararhussain
    @Jararhussain Před 2 lety +58

    Conductor may be a relatively new producer but he’s without a doubt one of my favorite producers out rn!

    • @sillygoofyberry
      @sillygoofyberry Před 8 měsíci +1

      hes in no way new, just new to this scence. hes been making music for the longest

  • @WelcomeToThe92503
    @WelcomeToThe92503 Před 2 lety +142

    I definitely think "RIGHT NOW" and "Frank Murphy" are my favorite conductor beats
    Frank Murphy was the first time I ever paid attention to conductor. Cuz I HAD NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEAT before
    With the exception of the unorthodox beats rza used to make way back in the day ..and madlib and a handful of cats like that
    But yea.. FRANK MURPHY is literally a movie .. crazy eerie distorted sample...no drums...the tempo and crackles randomly go in and out ... . looped and chopped with the needle skip on the record .
    Literally sounds the score to a horror movie scene. I love that ish
    Tbh tho...I really wish they gave Daringer this look instead of conductor ... hes good.... but DARINGER is an integral part of why these guys ARE WHO THEY ARE TO THIS DAY.

    • @LAJP97
      @LAJP97 Před 2 lety +7

      Denny La Flare did the beat for right now, one of my favourites too !

    • @reggiethefather22
      @reggiethefather22 Před 2 lety +4

      Facts 💯 frank murphy got me paying attention to conductor that beat is crazy never heard anything like it

    • @WelcomeToThe92503
      @WelcomeToThe92503 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LAJP97 word? I thought it was conductor?

    • @LAJP97
      @LAJP97 Před 2 lety +1

      @@WelcomeToThe92503 yeaa man checked on genius

    • @WelcomeToThe92503
      @WelcomeToThe92503 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LAJP97 na...I did too. Lol...I had thought I sent another comment ... where I said I didnt know why I thought he did it
      I think its cus I've always thought I heard the conducta tag on it lolll..🤷🏻‍♂️ .. but ya.. its dope tho

  • @Noobpcgamer
    @Noobpcgamer Před 2 lety +44

    I'm tryna see Mach and Tha God Fahim on this jawn

  • @SHEABUDDHA
    @SHEABUDDHA Před 2 lety +25

    Michael Irvin introduced me to Conducter and I'm excited to see his credits on any project ever since. 🔥

  • @mellomusicgroup
    @mellomusicgroup Před 2 lety +18

    Need an Apollo Brown one - collab master.

  • @c2dajayy
    @c2dajayy Před 2 lety +42

    I hope they keep this segment goin; Need to shine a bigger light on producers 🙏🏾

  • @Antz135
    @Antz135 Před 2 lety +44

    Conductor has quickly become one of my favourite producers. He just gets better & better every beat. So unique and out the box

  • @tonsshameless8741
    @tonsshameless8741 Před 2 lety +9

    Westsidegunn lyrical content is unreal. People cant sleep on his rhyme skeeem. Man. I was a instant fan. Back in 2015 i heard that apollo brown joint and was hooked

  • @DesmondMason
    @DesmondMason Před 2 lety +18

    Big ups for Kansas City MO and Conductor Williams!

    • @roycekrispie
      @roycekrispie Před 2 lety

      Kc in tha house. I’m repping for the city.
      C hec k m y c h annel ou T

  • @MelMelx365
    @MelMelx365 Před 2 lety +20

    NPR did the FLYGOD & Conductor serious justice on this one!

  • @Marcus-nt8yx
    @Marcus-nt8yx Před 2 lety +13

    Conductor. He’s special man. His beats are something else.

  • @bigdaddy9799
    @bigdaddy9799 Před 2 lety +15

    That Michael Irvin Is Fire 🔥 👍🔥

  • @AriJordan
    @AriJordan Před 2 lety +10

    This proves why Westside gunn is a great producer, his vision.

  • @jewelsverne9027
    @jewelsverne9027 Před 2 lety +15

    Their stylistically different but on beat head nods were all too perfect

  • @immyownpresident
    @immyownpresident Před 2 lety +10

    “We are the Culture we dont even have to talk about it we the ones who they talk about”- FlyGod

  • @yk007beats8
    @yk007beats8 Před 2 lety +67

    I love Conductor's sound it's crisp & theatrical 🔥

  • @alejandroportillo1434
    @alejandroportillo1434 Před 2 lety +48

    Atmosphere has a song w that sample its called lifter puller. Its a dope beat both versions.

    • @axioms22
      @axioms22 Před 2 lety +10

      THANK YOU, Ant did a much better job sampling this like a decade ago and now these clowns think they're being unique LOL

    • @alejandroportillo1434
      @alejandroportillo1434 Před 2 lety +5

      @@axioms22 Ha ha yeah Ant makes some fire beats classics.

    • @DudeNo13
      @DudeNo13 Před 2 lety +8

      Ant deserves his flowers

    • @DudeNo13
      @DudeNo13 Před 2 lety +5

      "You don't know me, you just love me"

    • @Curling_Rack
      @Curling_Rack Před 2 lety +2

      salute!

  • @djsmoothc39able
    @djsmoothc39able Před rokem

    Dope interview and it’s great to see my city of Kansas City get that shine salute Conductor Williams and WestSide 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @toomuchmidi
    @toomuchmidi Před 2 lety +25

    Being that The Conductor is the Deniro to Gunns' Pesci in Goodfellas, lets all hope there's never a scene where Conductor is in a phone booth slammin a phone to pieces 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Slumlordb
    @Slumlordb Před 2 lety +8

    Glad to see npr getting this interview

  • @madzondemand
    @madzondemand Před 2 lety +6

    this is the episode i’ve been waiting for all season.

  • @SHEABUDDHA
    @SHEABUDDHA Před 2 lety +10

    Yall are one of the best puzzle pieces in this culture.
    Conductor....you crazy man!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @thokozanimahlobo4333
    @thokozanimahlobo4333 Před 2 lety +17

    Luxury Art Rap🔥🔥🔥

    • @SammyTTS8
      @SammyTTS8 Před 2 lety +3

      Everytime I come across a fellow South African on one these real hip hop comment sections, I feel less weird. Yizo gaz'lam 👊🏿👊🏿

  • @cyrusgill1594
    @cyrusgill1594 Před 2 lety

    Wow grateful 😊 for this interview

  • @hughogilvie8717
    @hughogilvie8717 Před rokem +5

    Westside is the very man - a hidden talent. Styles are unique. Keep them coming.

  • @godthyfather
    @godthyfather Před 6 měsíci +1

    nothing but endless inspiration ✨️ i needed this in my life thank you FLYGOD and Mr CONDUCTOR

  • @missvalerie4040
    @missvalerie4040 Před 2 lety +41

    A great duo. Agreed with the other people, they are underrated. Love them.

  • @curlz4281
    @curlz4281 Před 2 lety +5

    this might be my favourite duo so far from this series

  • @vonvex
    @vonvex Před 2 lety +5

    Avante-Gangster - definitely using this description and acting like I came up with it

    • @NO-gh4qp
      @NO-gh4qp Před 2 lety

      I personally called it esoteric gangsta but I like this a lot better

  • @ryanandring2688
    @ryanandring2688 Před 2 lety +9

    I wish you guys showed more songs by the two of them. This is a great exposé for fans that already know them but new fans really don’t have much to go off of besides the one song you play haha

    • @Belligerence.
      @Belligerence. Před 5 měsíci

      They have plenty of songs together at this point.

  • @danielristovdr
    @danielristovdr Před 2 lety +2

    Thnx for sharing, RIP Villain

  • @nomadamir8552
    @nomadamir8552 Před 2 lety +6

    *takes a shot everytime Gunn says "You know what im saying"*
    *on dialysis for eternity*

  • @biglikemadonna
    @biglikemadonna Před 2 lety +3

    I looove the WSG n Conductor combo ..fire 🔥🔥

  • @elonnelson5024
    @elonnelson5024 Před 2 lety +4

    I like that transition of speakers after writers block 🥶📈

  • @Yah_Mean
    @Yah_Mean Před rokem +5

    There’s something about Conductor William’s slight pitch shifting that separates him from other producers.
    It’s always there. A sense of discord. Slight dissonance.
    Beauty.

  • @doc-illa
    @doc-illa Před 2 lety +2

    i have to respect west side gunn's perspective of growing from his entire life experience without any cover ups... and then turning it into orchestra and art and expressive music. i cant even doubt how much i enjoy the music, and i cant doubt how many people here in Buffalo i know that feel the same way.

  • @xavierdumar5388
    @xavierdumar5388 Před 2 lety

    The narration is top notch

  • @Coolcat3
    @Coolcat3 Před 2 lety +6

    When I first heard conductor I thought it was Madlib. He got a dope sound

  • @sasanto-beats5323
    @sasanto-beats5323 Před 2 lety +4

    This guys are such an inspiration

  • @GrownUpKid94
    @GrownUpKid94 Před 2 lety +8

    I finally placed this beat haha Tyler jacked it

  • @basia2330
    @basia2330 Před 2 lety +11

    Daringer needs to be on this with Conway or Benny

  • @sully7108
    @sully7108 Před 2 lety +2

    The Flygod and Conductor, needed this

  • @marcoreasco89
    @marcoreasco89 Před 2 lety +1

    Kansas City!! Conductor you on point with the cast iron skillet!!

  • @averyfarmer7562
    @averyfarmer7562 Před 2 lety +8

    That DOOM chain is goated

  • @facksvillain2296
    @facksvillain2296 Před rokem +5

    Real talk the perfect teams, Conductor/ West..Benny/DJ Shay...Conway/Daringer

  • @MrEazyE357
    @MrEazyE357 Před rokem

    Love these dudes and I'm SO glad they linked up.

  • @njoythecollapse
    @njoythecollapse Před 2 lety

    Your old droog and edan beats are beautiful too

  • @Savagemastaandrew
    @Savagemastaandrew Před 2 lety +7

    THAT DOOM CHAIN IS INSANE

  • @rererec_beats
    @rererec_beats Před 2 lety +3

    Conductor conductor conductor 🖤

  • @AIRJAVITUBE
    @AIRJAVITUBE Před 2 lety +1

    i love these dudes art!!

  • @MyPimpinAfro14
    @MyPimpinAfro14 Před 2 lety +7

    conductor one of the best producers of the last 2 years

  • @valsasonb
    @valsasonb Před 2 lety +3

    conductor the next biggest producer im calling it

  • @matthewjohnston1967
    @matthewjohnston1967 Před rokem

    I have always said gun has the best beat selection. His ear for beats is amazing.

  • @johnnypeachbasket7323
    @johnnypeachbasket7323 Před 2 lety +9

    CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM!

  • @RawWrath
    @RawWrath Před 2 lety +2

    Such great unique styles

  • @aidanmcpavian5638
    @aidanmcpavian5638 Před 2 lety +11

    I would Absolutely love to see a Griselda movie / documentary.

  • @pwalshofficial
    @pwalshofficial Před 2 lety +3

    This sample is also used on Lifter Puller by Atmosphere.

  • @hopekgaogelo8261
    @hopekgaogelo8261 Před 2 lety +1

    Pray For Paris is one of the best musical pieces I have ever heard in my life 😃

  • @JohnWilliams-rd8jy
    @JohnWilliams-rd8jy Před 2 lety +7

    Y’all should do one with Nas and hitboy

  • @notprosperBEATS
    @notprosperBEATS Před 2 lety

    i needed this

  • @dezberetta1223
    @dezberetta1223 Před 2 lety +1

    I first heard the Micheal irving beat by atmosphere and it was called lift puller. But west & conductor killed it

  • @thatmalcolmguy
    @thatmalcolmguy Před rokem +1

    Westside Gunn & The Heartbreakers ❤‍🔥

  • @VeryFewPeopleTV
    @VeryFewPeopleTV Před rokem

    Cold duo, salute majita

  • @adamdormus2522
    @adamdormus2522 Před 8 měsíci

    This series is beautiful.

  • @fractalwavy4784
    @fractalwavy4784 Před 2 lety +4

    I did not know what conductor Williams looked like until now. Feel like a lot of people bout to start hitting him for beats tho, because he really up there with imma go ahead and say Alc cause Conductor that nice to me

  • @Garcusmarvey
    @Garcusmarvey Před 2 lety

    Dope video

  • @nathanmansour3654
    @nathanmansour3654 Před 2 lety

    big Grielda gang!!! Tiny desk show soon??

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 Před 2 lety +1

    Definitely can see how wrestling inspires his raps

  • @mk90889
    @mk90889 Před 2 lety +1

    Big up Gunn an Conducta Williams 🙏🏼

  • @tonyseeker
    @tonyseeker Před 2 lety +1

    The saviors of hip hop right here

  • @fromtheworldwithlove1797
    @fromtheworldwithlove1797 Před 2 lety +1

    This series is top 🔥

  • @rorycorriganandthingslikethat

    conductor and mach hommy too that combo goes crazy

  • @ianrobinson3740
    @ianrobinson3740 Před 2 lety

    gonna have to watch this twice, once to understand and once to just peep game on these fits

  • @jacksonmityero8716
    @jacksonmityero8716 Před 2 lety +1

    Great show

  • @sean9892
    @sean9892 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Now Conducter has a song with Drake 😭🔥

  • @sunwalla77
    @sunwalla77 Před 2 lety +4

    I always felt the producers is not shown off enough it's always the artist I always felt it should be just as much credit split cause they came together to make the magic of great music 🎶 just my 2¢

  • @atg-alexanderthagreatmusic1791

    Slug made a great track to this same sample Atmosphere wayyyy back . Sevens Travels times. West side Gunn Always on point with great Raw Hip hop an his voice on the track is super unique an dope

    • @Day-ZDuke
      @Day-ZDuke Před 2 lety +1

      For sure my man....just one note, ANT made the beat for Atmosphere, he was the producer, Slug was the MC

  • @triggawoods6888
    @triggawoods6888 Před 2 lety +1

    Gridelda...smh...💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💯💯💯💙💙💙 from the CMD. Respect.

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 Před 2 lety

    Cant wait for his to come to Dallas Nov 28th 🤲🏿🤲🏿

  • @TheOverpowered1
    @TheOverpowered1 Před 7 měsíci

    that old orchatrea is fire 7:15

  • @buddharising-
    @buddharising- Před 2 lety +4

    I LOVE WESTSIDE GUNN!!!!!!