Why are they always asking the biracial and MGM girls about colourism? And for the love of god Candiace, Ashley calling your hair dry is NOT colourism!!!!
It was very foul of candice to use a very serious subject to justify her terrible actions. Because of people like her, people don take colourism seriously
I wish Candice would stay true to who she is and stop acting like this. I saw her true colours the first season and I still hold her up to that standard. She needs to go back to that and stop whatever is cooking oil here
So ashley shouldn’t be offended by candiace calling her a slave, but candiace has the right to cry and get offended over ashley’s remarks about her dry hair???? Girl, i call a stunt.
Calling Ashley a slave is more racist/colorist than Ashley insulting her hair smh. Problem with Candiace is she viciously overreacts to EVERYTHING no matter how big or small. Like she always has to go hard EVERYTIME to put people in the grave let alone in their place LOL. She’s vicious with her reads and always tries to cut deep, like the person beat her mum or something. She is all to happy to consistently insult someone casually all the time and it’s childish (forehead/wide body/big feet) even though she would go mad if someone was consistently insulted her looks/body. She’s never is remorseful and in fact doubles down on her BS, never taking accountability and deflecting or stands proudly in her viciousness and doesn’t apologise or apologises begrudgingly. That’s the difference between her and the rest. Yeh sometimes the rest do go below the belt but it’s not consistently and they no when they’ve gone to far and are humble enough to apologise.
the comment was racist not colorist , is true that Candice is definitely in the wrong but the way she behaves and the fact that she doesn't believe that there is colorism within the group just shows how ignorant and delusional she is.
Ashley uno reversed that shit hard and candice wasn't ready lol. Even wendy who made a good point shut up after Ashley pointed out she was called a slave cause she couldn't defend candice after that
@@HelloKittykat21 I felt it was a valid point she made but I'm glad Ashley didn't get tripped up in it cause I don't think colorism is candice's issues. She is just incredibly nasty like it's not shade if there is no humor in it your just rude which is what they were trying to say. Plus she acts really aggressive and says no one can handle her comments but 5 seconds later she is crying and saying how everyone is so hurtful towards her
I honestly agree with you lmao, she called ashley “wide body ass” and ashley called her hair dry, then she wanna brings colorism up 🙄🙄 please make it make senseeeeee
Well the ladies come for her this new season being filmed. Apparently everyone calls her out and turns on her and she is the outsider of the group as the ladies apparently want her off the show due to her attitude and behaviour so they are trying to force her off
Candice had no leg to stand on she should have just apologised and moved on. She was not nice this season. Period and that’s got nothing to do with skin colour in THIS situation. Sis still mad about Monique 🥱
If candiace didn't keep talking about slave driver, driving his slave, overseer, wide hips, wide face etc maybe I would see it. But you can't be the one throwing the insults and then talk about colorism. She is reaching. If there is coloriSm she thinks she'll get a pass.
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Exactly. I am 100% with Ashely in this. She has been trying to be nice with Candiance for ages.
No there is a colorism issue in that group but Candiace was definitely reaching with that dry hair comment, especially when you factor in the fact that she has called Ashley a slave, a roach, she has an overseer and all this other stuff, so clearly she wasn’t too worried about anti-blackness being perpetuated when she said those things. And some of these wigs do be dry sometimes, it’s okay.
I remember when she was lecturing the group last year to stop calling darker skinned women aggressive. And then Monique chimed in that Candiace called her a hoodrat and ghetto. Basically adding to the stereotype. Candiace then retorted that it was because she deserved it. Rules for thee but not for me!
When candiace was asked about throwing the salad at mia her response made me laugh. When she feels attacked or ganged up on or something to that effect she reacts....but Monique...lol. Candiace is exactly what she thinks Monique is. It's funny to watch candiace play herself this season. I'm not saying Monique should have grabbed her hair. Candeace has a vile mouth she can't fight. Her words are fighting words. Plat stupid games she'll win stupid prizes.
Candice is the typical reason why I will always value social intelligence as compared to academic one. She needs to learn the 101 of navigating the rules of life in society, she has none! It disappointing. Wendy wont have to wait long before her turn with Candice shows up. She has no boundaries xxx
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OMG I told my friends exactly this. She is absolutely a mess and has no social intelligence
Candiace has to use these important words in contexts where they dont belong and make It a bigger deal, as if she's a victim of colourism and talks about "privilege", but when she is nasty, then its just "being real". She acts like a spoiled brat.
Candiace is a bully, she uses real issues and words to manipulate. She has zero accountability for he actions and that's why she rubs people up the wrong way. No half baked appolegies work, it's sad because she does to people what her mother does to her.
Candiace is a piece of work the way she speaks is so foul and disrespectful. She is really holding on to the Monique situation with dear life just to get sympathy from the group. She really needs therapy.
Candiace is despicable. I think Ashley has a point about ppl projecting this idea of colourism to the group at the same time I do see where some of the comments come off as colourist
I'm maybe one shade lighter than Wendy. These women need to stop trying to blame any and everything on colorism. Candiace has no accountability, she just likes to throw blame on anything to be seen as some victim
I know women with 4C hair and it’s moisturised.. it’s has nothing to do with race. Candice slays with her words but the minute you start baiting people to drag you and throw salad at people etc you have no leg to stand on.
Don't use racism/colourism as a means to "cancel" someone towards whom you have preexisting dislike. These are issues people experience in their daily lives. 4C hair is not something that JUST dark skinned people have so for her to connect that to colourism seemed opportunistic and problematic.
@@nefertiitii8747 not really as light skinned Black women also have 4c hair…we’re not all biracial and are still Black. I have 4c hair and super proud of it
But guys, maybe it just so happens that Candiace is dark-skinned. The -lady- girl has a foul mouth - the end! Wendy is just siding with her and not holding her accountable because they have the same skin colour which I find to be bullsh*t. Maybe all the light-skinned ladies from this group enjoy shading one another and don't seem to be phased by the comments while all the dark-skinned feel some type of way, I don't know 🤷🏽♀️ lastly, Candiace has no respect at all especially how she talks to her husband and about white people in general. If a white person were to say half of the things Candiace has said, they would've been labeled racist.
Unfortunately and coming from a black person married to a white person. Then she wanna turn around and try blame her mother. She has zero respect for anyone, not her mother, not her husband, not the ladies, not the serious matters she trivialises = no respect for herself either.
Colorism is a problem with this cast. Candiace didn’t use a great example but it does exist on this show. All of these women have done vile below the belt things yet Candiace is the only one being called out for it. Also they always use the words aggressive when Wendy defends herself yet Robyn was never called aggressive for almost fighting Ashley and Monique.
Exactly. Karen lied and admitted to it, called Giselle a drug addict, accused her of an STD, yet there is mo fuss about it, but Candaice saying Mia mother low budget after she called het work low budget is a problem??
But Karen has fessed up to who wrong doings to Gizelle and Gizelle likewise and the apologised to each other so it was already quashed. I think Jesus would arrive by the time Candiace fesses up to anything and apologises
Nah Candice you don't get to be a mean girl literally all the time & being the biggest bully then hide behind "I am a dark black woman" "I'm a victim of colourism"..
Why was Wendy and Candiace acting like Ashley brought up colorist when Candiace insinuated it first with her dry hair comment? Candiace then turns around and says she doesn't bring colorism up...this episode made absolutely no sense to me with the hypocrisy that was occurring 😭🤣
So would calling Robin and Giselle green eye bandits a demonstration of colourism? Practically every season since Potomac started I've heard that....I think Candace was reaching with the dry hair comment being characterize as colourism and I am a light skinned freckled face person with 4c hair.
Candiace, because you had an altercation with someone doesn't mean others who are friends with same person should throw away their friendship. The world doesn't work that way or else no one will have friends because at some point in friendship misunderstandings happen. Their relationship with Monique is separate from their relationship with you. Now there are things in life one would do that everyone will cut them off but this isn't one of them.
@@CamiTales exactly it's the double standards .i think candiace is more hurt about the fact that during that season she and Ashley had agreed to mend their relationship respectfully and move forward and even went out of her way to bring the cheating rumours about Micheal to Ashley just for Ashley to turn around and write a statement against her..... Candiace has animosity and resentment and there will never be any genuine trust with those two and I honestly don't blame her
I’m mixed race, considered light skin by many, and my hair is dry af, way drier than my darker skin mother’s and brother’s. Ashley saying her hair is dry is NOT colourism, it’s seriously mean cause all us girls, regardless of skin color, are highly sensitive about our hair. But again it was not colorism! Every African descent person knows that y’all can be dark skin and have the smoothest hair, while in the some token Y’all can be light skin and have really dry hair, all we have to do often times is look at our own close nit families. So stop with that nonsense already. Colourism does exist, and Ashley can be a bitch of the worst kind at times, but I did not see colourism in her statement. I saw mean, but not colourism. Candiece is obviously the colorist one who has an issue with Ashley being light skin, calling her a slave. That was disgusting, vile and absolutely out of line. I can see through this woman and it’s not pretty, she seriously needs to heal her wounds. Biracial people take crap from both sides, we are a target to prejudice and bigotry from both sides! As y’all can see here! See Ashley complaining about it out of her ass?! Girl grow the f up. Biracial people didn’t ask to be born biracial and are not her enemy, her own complex of inferiority is. She needs the heal it before it consumes her alive. You called her slave Candiece, you called your own sister a slave! Talk about doing the white man’s work for him. Shame on you, absolute shame on you! If you are not going to heal you need to role over and die; cause facts are that I don’t remember ever seeing Ashley’s white husband verbally disrespect her in front of people, while yours has already done so at least twice, that we have seen. So HEAL!
But your 4c curls be dry! Take time out from orrating and moisturize them instead! Drink more water. In the words of Porsha, "Bye ashy!" Now colorize that!
When Gizelle said Ashley just pushed out a human and you went bashing her body regarding it. Candiace: So WhAttt 😳 Mia: Dont speak about my mum just me. Candiace: You don't get to tell me who I can attack. Loool wth🤣 if Candiace had given birth & someone said that she'll need a whole box of kleenex. Heck If Mia kept saying your mama to Candiace or go in on how her relationship is with Dorothy she'll cry a river. Also so what if Karen and Ashley are friends with Monique they dont owe her loyalty they're not close like that. P.s I dont mind Candiace but she needs to own it rather crying victim after .
Wendy really tried to pipe in with her so called intellect with her own personal struggles and projected her own internal conflict to this group but Ashley really shut it down. What people forget is that Ashley is incredibly intelligent and articulate with or without 20 degrees as Wendy thinks she is the only wordsmith. Ashley was right the outside world is projecting their own feelings into the group, the group itself is not colorist as most of these ladies are with dark skinned men and inevitably their children are darker so it's not an issue to them. The irony is Candace is the only "black" woman who is married to a white man minus "biracial" Ashley and that to me speaks volume. Candiace used words such as hood-rat, ghetto and other racist deregotory words in past and I get a sense that she has a destain for black people who come from a less privileged background then her white-dominated private school education. She has no respect for her own working class people such as Mia and why would she shen she has never been around or grew up in the struggle. If you close your eyes and imagined her white we would automatically call her racist. She very much has "Karen" like attitude crying on queue, deflecting and playing the victim. This is purely 101 of 'Karen' Private school curriculum. Candiace is a beautiful black woman aesthetically which is why she has been able to get away with so much racist stuff but she is holds white middle class attitudes, ideologies and values purely because of her upbringing so I don't blame her to a degree, she is the Romona of RHOP.
Candiace seems really jealous of and fixated on Ashley. I get they've had issues previously, but try to move on or keep your distance and remain cordial.
What is there to be jealous of? Candiace came on this show and Ashley instantly started shading her for no reason and they were supposed to be friends.
Candiace is always the most verbally vile and aggressive and yet she always finds an excuse to be the victim. You can’t do virtual signalling if your virtues are questionable. Bye.
Candice acting like her wig isn’t covering her forehead. Candice says foul things and they’re always extreme and over he top. Then cries and plays victim. Ashley making a statement, is irrelevant, she wasn’t doing it out of spite. She told the truth. Ashley should be able to be friends with Monique, candice is forgetting her part in her and Monique’s altercation
I stand with Ashley and I think Wendy forgets that some of the audiences are really really educated people so she should stop addressing the other women like dumb people because it shows… Saying Ashley is a SLAVE is far far more racist than any other fucking comments. Duh Feels like Wendy is deflecting her insecurities in the group as bigger educated statements, she should just say what's in her heart and not deflect on someone else’s situation.
Wendy is delusional and thinks she is a know it all. She's a bully and thinks being a political commentator is enough to address racial issues but it's just a tactic she uses to justify her rude and aggressive behavior. How is that when she trashed Robin she didn't use her degrees and racial issues but when she's supposed to own up to her shit she plays the colourism card. Wendy has no respect and that has nothing to do with her being dark skinned and everything to do with her being insecure and a bully who uses her education to trash other women. Common sense goes a long way. Candice and Wendy are playing a dangerous game and they are a danger to black women all over the world. So irresponsible 😒. Dr of not owning up to anything. So classless (no pun intended).
I at this point dont care about Candice and her victim mentality when she constantly throws stones at people and pretends like she has amnesia when confronted about it. ITS ALL ON TAPE CANDICE!! She needs some growth!!! PERIOD
Candiance, you’ve hit below the belt soooo many times. I don’t know if you deserve anyone to be on your side. It doesn’t mean I don’t like you though Xoxo
They mentioned it last year as well. It is a thing but I don't see it at all in RHOP. Only those insecure in their own skin want some form of validation from something that is nonexistent.
@@personaldove Dude.. We're white, so of course it's initially difficult for us to understand, but colorism is blatant in that group and denying its existence is part of one's privilege (of not having experienced it)
So you and your brother Bob are both white but he’s blonde and blue eyed and you’re not. Now ever since you can remember, your whole world has always just been about blonde & blue-eyes, from the fashion models you’ve seen on the runways to the major musicians on stage and the big movie stars on screen. Even the women in your community are partial to that nordic look when it comes to dating and marriage. In fact, blonde and blue-eyed is basically synonymous with the notion of beauty and desirability. But all this isn’t anything new for you, you’ve known this all your life. Just like you’ve known that by being dark eyed and brunette you’re always 2nd best, whether its with girls, or opportunities available or whether you or a blonde white dude would be jailed, if both were accused of a crime. Everywhere you go there are ads telling you to stick contact lenses in every shade of azure in your eye, your vision be damned, and Loreal hounds you repeatedly about correcting that dark, off-putting problematic hair with hues of flaxen and gold, all so that you will no longer be so pathetically 2nd rate. But what’s the point? It won’t be real. Nobody’s ever going to see your dark looks and then give a shit. Brunette’s don’t get to be the star, the MVP, the belle of the ball or the star quarterback. The biggest names in hip hop for example, aren’t going around marrying brunette bitches. And there certainly aren’t any brunettes being cast as heroes/heroines in the sensational sagas of Bollywood or across the world in the epic telenovelas of Latin America either. Y’all know good and well you’re the wild and trashy white folk. The ones that aren’t as cultured or polished, the ones closer to the savage neanderthals of the old days in stark contrast to your blonde brethren. Those Aryan works of art are not only sophisticated and refined, but educated, enlightened and everything to everyone on this planet. And just more fucking trustworthy goddamn it! Chances are, a brunette will steal from you, or be a big slut, because y’all are just so damn angry and aggro all the time. That’s colourism
@@joshlgbt6372 I mean, had you maybe included which part or why, I could’ve taken you seriously but such an open ended response says it all. So, sure girl, you do that.
She’s right too, Ashley acknowledged it exists but rightly pushes back against the idea the women do it to each other. You can’t accuse them of it each time they disagree. ‘This group is void of it’ because not everyone is colourist. That’s not hard to grasp Ms 4 degrees.
I’m not agreeing with everything Candaise does (especially last season) but the colorism is real this season so she isn’t lying, look how Andy treats Mia & how he treats Candaise about that whole Twitter mess!
I think the issue is how they address it. Mia quickly apologized and said she was sorry and would do better. Where as Candiace is defending why her actions are justified.
Who else noticed that Wendy never corrects or says anything about or to Candice about her behaviour but seems to call out everyone else? I think she's trying to have a friendship with her & too scared to get on her bad side.
Wow to robin being the voice of reason, if she was more involved and less eye rolling and stepped away from the mean girl club with giz more often I could see her becoming a good mediator and balance between the girls
Candice was out of line with the colourism, now some one will say she’s; “she’s a angry black woman”, now how would she feel when some said that to her, she’s got issues the girl is “bitter” and “jealous” of Ashley, period, 😡🤬
Man, tjat Ashley is such a rare combination: - she looks so endearing and harmless - she sounds so endearing and harmless - is messy as hell - speaks really well And I have no idea what to do with that
Is Candiace trying to say Ashley calling her hair dry is colorist? As though black people with looser curls don't have dry hair too? It's not Ashley's fault that her your hair is dry Candiace, it's calling moisturizing and conditioning!
This racism and colourism is a cop out and Candice is deflecting this from her bad behaviour and character. Stop deflecting and own up to your s💩, boo. 😑
Wendy doesn't seem insecure at all (which is what was repeated by four of the ladies all season). It's interesting how the lighter women seem to automatically believe the brown skin women are insecure if they have an issue with them. Because it has to stem from jealousy or envy and not because they genuinely have a problem with their behaviour & are calling them out on it. A lot of social commentary can be made from this assumption and this cast. Someone like Gizelle has been made to believe for so long that having a fairer complexion equates to beauty and anyone darker cannot measure up to her. No wonder Gizelle, Robyn and Ashley were confused by Wendy's confidence and her openly expressing her sexuality this season. For Wendy to be feeling herself so much must mean she is insecure & overcompensating? But they have never questioned Mia for her confidence or expression of her sexuality. The colourism in this cast is ripe. Candiace is held to an impossible standard in this cast. She never starts drama but will retaliate if anyone attacks. She's a smart woman and therefore has a sharp mouth. The other women use this to their advantage by provoking her. They know she will respond because she is an emotional person. And they villainize her the most out of anyone in the group; even though the other women have said some of the most disgusting and awful things. Whenever Candiace and Wendy bring up these instances of colourism, the other women won't acknowledge it. I mean, how can they? It's like trying to convince a white person who refuses to acknowledge white privilege because it would mean they have to accept that they benefit from it at the expense of non white people. And that is a hard pill to swallow.
@dreamland just to be clear tho, colourism isn’t about minorities arguing amongst themselves over who is more black or more Indian etc etc. Just in case your point made a tldr that was deeply incorrect lol.
I sont believe there is a colorism problem in this group. I think there's favoritism. I'm pretty sure Robyn and Monique were both called aggressive for the altercations they were in but for some reason people keep bringing their past up and forgetting that. Who were they not called aggressive by? Gizelle? Robyn is Gizelle's friend so of course she wouldn't call her out on camera however Gizelle also called Monique aggressive. They're both light skinned. The same way Gizelle doesn't call Robyn out on camera, Wendy does the same for Candiace. Did Wendy call Candiace out for calling a black woman hood and ghetto? Did she call Candiace out, on camera, when she called Ashley a slave and a roach? Nope. It's all about who's your friend so I adamantly believe there isn't a colorism issue, only favoritism. People only call out people who aren't their friends.
Kmt. There is colourism in the group, I'm not expecting Ashley to see it, but how Robyn and Gizelle behaves, then turn around and accuse Wendy of being an asshole and aggressive is colourism. However! No one is showing colourism towards Candace. Kmt! What is Candace deal? She keeps saying how she "orates". Well Ashley "orated" back at her now she crying? Also, people can't be friends now because of her?
Candiace is way too defensive it’s so embarrassing she’s so beautiful wish she could just be apologetic for the things she says instead of doing tit for tat all the time
You can have moist 4C hair. She was roasting her because she don’t look after her tips🤣🤣 not that she has 4C hair. Calling someone a slave is actually RACIST.
“He drives his slave” is Candiace calling Ashley a slave.
Exactly, and deflates
Absolutely... She is an awful person
Yep
@@diamond_gleeglows6513 it’s ‘deflect’ hun, but I get your point…
The irony... eh well
Why are they always asking the biracial and MGM girls about colourism? And for the love of god Candiace, Ashley calling your hair dry is NOT colourism!!!!
Candice loves playing the victim.
Not to mention that Ashley reacted to Candice calling her a slave. Now she is trying to make it seem like if Ashley started it. She is exhausting!!!
@@fatimawales8735 Ashley’s dry hair comment was in response to Candiace talking about her forehead, not her saying Michael drives his slaves.
Exactly. Candice is a master deflector. Calling Ashley a slave is more racist/colorist than Ashley insulting her hair smh
Agreed, and its problematic because when colourism really does occur it will not be addressed or taken as serious. Girl who cared wolf is Candice
It was very foul of candice to use a very serious subject to justify her terrible actions. Because of people like her, people don take colourism seriously
I wish Candice would stay true to who she is and stop acting like this. I saw her true colours the first season and I still hold her up to that standard. She needs to go back to that and stop whatever is cooking oil here
Exactly! Thank you.
You're giving her too much credit though
@@dinahsibanyoni8591 I guess.
And also because some of the girls are turning a blind eye on that or just tolerate it.
So ashley shouldn’t be offended by candiace calling her a slave, but candiace has the right to cry and get offended over ashley’s remarks about her dry hair????
Girl, i call a stunt.
Candice is draining 🙃
I must say Ashley orates on a completely different level. Wendy wasn’t expecting that answer.
Calling Ashley a slave is more racist/colorist than Ashley insulting her hair smh. Problem with Candiace is she viciously overreacts to EVERYTHING no matter how big or small. Like she always has to go hard EVERYTIME to put people in the grave let alone in their place LOL. She’s vicious with her reads and always tries to cut deep, like the person beat her mum or something.
She is all to happy to consistently insult someone casually all the time and it’s childish (forehead/wide body/big feet) even though she would go mad if someone was consistently insulted her looks/body.
She’s never is remorseful and in fact doubles down on her BS, never taking accountability and deflecting or stands proudly in her viciousness and doesn’t apologise or apologises begrudgingly.
That’s the difference between her and the rest. Yeh sometimes the rest do go below the belt but it’s not consistently and they no when they’ve gone to far and are humble enough to apologise.
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT AND AGREED
A lot of Truth in this one
I think she needs to be out
👏🏾👍🏾👊🏾
And Ashley is ? Please !
the comment was racist not colorist , is true that Candice is definitely in the wrong but the way she behaves and the fact that she doesn't believe that there is colorism within the group just shows how ignorant and delusional she is.
Ashley uno reversed that shit hard and candice wasn't ready lol. Even wendy who made a good point shut up after Ashley pointed out she was called a slave cause she couldn't defend candice after that
Wendy is candiaces enabler and its really very unattractive to watch.
@@HelloKittykat21 I felt it was a valid point she made but I'm glad Ashley didn't get tripped up in it cause I don't think colorism is candice's issues. She is just incredibly nasty like it's not shade if there is no humor in it your just rude which is what they were trying to say. Plus she acts really aggressive and says no one can handle her comments but 5 seconds later she is crying and saying how everyone is so hurtful towards her
@@HelloKittykat21 she did the same last year about Candiace’s classist remarks concerning Monique
She called the girl a slave and referred to her as a bed wench but oh no that was not bad. Candice...BYE
‘I’m not gonna cry’ then proceeds to cry! Jesus help us 😩😩😩
The tears are for sympathy and used as a weapon. I just don't believe her.
Candiace always crying. How are you able to attack everyones appearances, but when someone says something back, you blame colorism..
I honestly agree with you lmao, she called ashley “wide body ass” and ashley called her hair dry, then she wanna brings colorism up 🙄🙄 please make it make senseeeeee
I cant believe I felt bad for Candice last season. Monique gave her what she deserved. Candice is a villian
I have to agree
@Kimberly Jade That's on you, I seen her foul nature for months now.
Thank you
She's a horrible person
Well the ladies come for her this new season being filmed. Apparently everyone calls her out and turns on her and she is the outsider of the group as the ladies apparently want her off the show due to her attitude and behaviour so they are trying to force her off
Candice had no leg to stand on she should have just apologised and moved on. She was not nice this season. Period and that’s got nothing to do with skin colour in THIS situation. Sis still mad about Monique 🥱
If candiace didn't keep talking about slave driver, driving his slave, overseer, wide hips, wide face etc maybe I would see it. But you can't be the one throwing the insults and then talk about colorism. She is reaching. If there is coloriSm she thinks she'll get a pass.
Exactly. I am 100% with Ashely in this. She has been trying to be nice with Candiance for ages.
" girl I got my cheque before you sat on this couch". Ashley is really an O.G
No there is a colorism issue in that group but Candiace was definitely reaching with that dry hair comment, especially when you factor in the fact that she has called Ashley a slave, a roach, she has an overseer and all this other stuff, so clearly she wasn’t too worried about anti-blackness being perpetuated when she said those things. And some of these wigs do be dry sometimes, it’s okay.
I remember when she was lecturing the group last year to stop calling darker skinned women aggressive.
And then Monique chimed in that Candiace called her a hoodrat and ghetto. Basically adding to the stereotype.
Candiace then retorted that it was because she deserved it.
Rules for thee but not for me!
Back when they had their Twitter feud Ashley commented on Candiace's 'straw' hair in a now deleted thread.
Candiace also called Ashley a concubine and a bed wench and a filthy milkmaid while she was breastfeeding
When candiace was asked about throwing the salad at mia her response made me laugh. When she feels attacked or ganged up on or something to that effect she reacts....but Monique...lol.
Candiace is exactly what she thinks Monique is. It's funny to watch candiace play herself this season. I'm not saying Monique should have grabbed her hair. Candeace has a vile mouth she can't fight. Her words are fighting words. Plat stupid games she'll win stupid prizes.
@@Ifigeneia.M
Still Candice started it. You can't choose to cut people deep and get to police or dictate how they react. Ridiculous x
Candice is the typical reason why I will always value social intelligence as compared to academic one. She needs to learn the 101 of navigating the rules of life in society, she has none! It disappointing. Wendy wont have to wait long before her turn with Candice shows up. She has no boundaries xxx
OMG I told my friends exactly this. She is absolutely a mess and has no social intelligence
Candiace has to use these important words in contexts where they dont belong and make It a bigger deal, as if she's a victim of colourism and talks about "privilege", but when she is nasty, then its just "being real". She acts like a spoiled brat.
Mars,
Spot on!!
Candiarse needs a full psychological assessment before she has a major meltdown and cause someone serious harm!!
Ashley owes Candice nothing good on Ashley and Karen for still having a relationship with Monique!!
Candiace is a bully, she uses real issues and words to manipulate. She has zero accountability for he actions and that's why she rubs people up the wrong way. No half baked appolegies work, it's sad because she does to people what her mother does to her.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 PREACH!
Like moust
Candiace is a piece of work the way she speaks is so foul and disrespectful. She is really holding on to the Monique situation with dear life just to get sympathy from the group. She really needs therapy.
What sympathy thats y she deserved that Bop🤣🤣
Candiace is despicable. I think Ashley has a point about ppl projecting this idea of colourism to the group at the same time I do see where some of the comments come off as colourist
I'm maybe one shade lighter than Wendy. These women need to stop trying to blame any and everything on colorism. Candiace has no accountability, she just likes to throw blame on anything to be seen as some victim
I know women with 4C hair and it’s moisturised.. it’s has nothing to do with race. Candice slays with her words but the minute you start baiting people to drag you and throw salad at people etc you have no leg to stand on.
She maybe neglecting her hair, sis is not moisturising her scalp
I’m sorry but coming for hair texture is no.
@@donnadash1417 who came for her hair texture?
Don't use racism/colourism as a means to "cancel" someone towards whom you have preexisting dislike. These are issues people experience in their daily lives.
4C hair is not something that JUST dark skinned people have so for her to connect that to colourism seemed opportunistic and problematic.
Just another example of how candy ass is out of touch wit reality. She needs to go!!!
Her mother did a serious number on her head smh. She needs real therapy
I have dry hair and I’m white, but I’m also Polynesian so maybe I can call people colorist if they hassle me about my hair??? It makes no sense 😂
Mostly darskin so let's stop pretending.
@@nefertiitii8747 not really as light skinned Black women also have 4c hair…we’re not all biracial and are still Black. I have 4c hair and super proud of it
Candiace called Ashley a slave lol and she wanna call someone else prejudice against her
But guys, maybe it just so happens that Candiace is dark-skinned. The -lady- girl has a foul mouth - the end! Wendy is just siding with her and not holding her accountable because they have the same skin colour which I find to be bullsh*t. Maybe all the light-skinned ladies from this group enjoy shading one another and don't seem to be phased by the comments while all the dark-skinned feel some type of way, I don't know 🤷🏽♀️ lastly, Candiace has no respect at all especially how she talks to her husband and about white people in general. If a white person were to say half of the things Candiace has said, they would've been labeled racist.
Unfortunately and coming from a black person married to a white person. Then she wanna turn around and try blame her mother. She has zero respect for anyone, not her mother, not her husband, not the ladies, not the serious matters she trivialises = no respect for herself either.
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Colorism is a problem with this cast. Candiace didn’t use a great example but it does exist on this show. All of these women have done vile below the belt things yet Candiace is the only one being called out for it. Also they always use the words aggressive when Wendy defends herself yet Robyn was never called aggressive for almost fighting Ashley and Monique.
Exactly. Karen lied and admitted to it, called Giselle a drug addict, accused her of an STD, yet there is mo fuss about it, but Candaice saying Mia mother low budget after she called het work low budget is a problem??
@@ajanishillingford4849 another great example! Calling someone a drug addict is dangerous!! That type of thing stays with someone
I agree
But Karen has fessed up to who wrong doings to Gizelle and Gizelle likewise and the apologised to each other so it was already quashed. I think Jesus would arrive by the time Candiace fesses up to anything and apologises
@@jayro792 Candice apologized to Monique 5 time last season and she still fought her. She’s apologized to Ashley for the tweets last season as well.
I think the reason why Wendy remained silent is because she knows that Ashleigh has a strong point.
Karen has the best classic response to Candiace and Ashley: "Y'all holdin' up our whole group," YAS 😎💯😂🤣
Absolutely 🤣
100 percent!
Pls says the women who is constantly bickering with Gizelle for 6 seasons
@@CamiTales lol, also true!
@@CamiTales Yeah but they let it go not constantly cry and shout
Nah Candice you don't get to be a mean girl literally all the time & being the biggest bully then hide behind "I am a dark black woman" "I'm a victim of colourism"..
God! Someone shut Candice up?!
Not even her mama could do that.
Candiace is problamatic. That’s a fact.
Candiace is not built for reality TV. Bravo, time to wake up!!
Claudia Smith,
Preach!!
She is a liabi!if I go everyone!!
Why was Wendy and Candiace acting like Ashley brought up colorist when Candiace insinuated it first with her dry hair comment? Candiace then turns around and says she doesn't bring colorism up...this episode made absolutely no sense to me with the hypocrisy that was occurring 😭🤣
So would calling Robin and Giselle green eye bandits a demonstration of colourism? Practically every season since Potomac started I've heard that....I think Candace was reaching with the dry hair comment being characterize as colourism and I am a light skinned freckled face person with 4c hair.
And the ladies have owned it. Candiace is something else
Candiace, because you had an altercation with someone doesn't mean others who are friends with same person should throw away their friendship. The world doesn't work that way or else no one will have friends because at some point in friendship misunderstandings happen. Their relationship with Monique is separate from their relationship with you. Now there are things in life one would do that everyone will cut them off but this isn't one of them.
Yet Monique was mad at Candiace for doing the same. Hmmm how sway
@@CamiTales exactly it's the double standards .i think candiace is more hurt about the fact that during that season she and Ashley had agreed to mend their relationship respectfully and move forward and even went out of her way to bring the cheating rumours about Micheal to Ashley just for Ashley to turn around and write a statement against her..... Candiace has animosity and resentment and there will never be any genuine trust with those two and I honestly don't blame her
@@CamiTales she simply didn't like the fact that she wasn't rd she'd be there
I’m mixed race, considered light skin by many, and my hair is dry af, way drier than my darker skin mother’s and brother’s. Ashley saying her hair is dry is NOT colourism, it’s seriously mean cause all us girls, regardless of skin color, are highly sensitive about our hair. But again it was not colorism! Every African descent person knows that y’all can be dark skin and have the smoothest hair, while in the some token Y’all can be light skin and have really dry hair, all we have to do often times is look at our own close nit families. So stop with that nonsense already. Colourism does exist, and Ashley can be a bitch of the worst kind at times, but I did not see colourism in her statement. I saw mean, but not colourism. Candiece is obviously the colorist one who has an issue with Ashley being light skin, calling her a slave. That was disgusting, vile and absolutely out of line. I can see through this woman and it’s not pretty, she seriously needs to heal her wounds. Biracial people take crap from both sides, we are a target to prejudice and bigotry from both sides! As y’all can see here! See Ashley complaining about it out of her ass?! Girl grow the f up. Biracial people didn’t ask to be born biracial and are not her enemy, her own complex of inferiority is. She needs the heal it before it consumes her alive. You called her slave Candiece, you called your own sister a slave! Talk about doing the white man’s work for him. Shame on you, absolute shame on you! If you are not going to heal you need to role over and die; cause facts are that I don’t remember ever seeing Ashley’s white husband verbally disrespect her in front of people, while yours has already done so at least twice, that we have seen. So HEAL!
But your 4c curls be dry! Take time out from orrating and moisturize them instead! Drink more water. In the words of Porsha, "Bye ashy!" Now colorize that!
They aren't issa lie
Andy should have went harder on candice though cause she did call Ashley a slave.
Andy left them to work that out....he doesn't want the fire if he says the wrong thing
When Gizelle said Ashley just pushed out a human and you went bashing her body regarding it.
Candiace: So WhAttt 😳
Mia: Dont speak about my mum just me.
Candiace: You don't get to tell me who I can attack.
Loool wth🤣 if Candiace had given birth & someone said that she'll need a whole box of kleenex. Heck
If Mia kept saying your mama to Candiace or go in on how her relationship is with Dorothy she'll cry a river. Also so what if Karen and Ashley are friends with Monique they dont owe her loyalty they're not close like that.
P.s I dont mind Candiace but she needs to own it rather crying victim after .
Wendy really tried to pipe in with her so called intellect with her own personal struggles and projected her own internal conflict to this group but Ashley really shut it down.
What people forget is that Ashley is incredibly intelligent and articulate with or without 20 degrees as Wendy thinks she is the only wordsmith.
Ashley was right the outside world is projecting their own feelings into the group, the group itself is not colorist as most of these ladies are with dark skinned men and inevitably their children are darker so it's not an issue to them.
The irony is Candace is the only "black" woman who is married to a white man minus "biracial" Ashley and that to me speaks volume.
Candiace used words such as hood-rat, ghetto and other racist deregotory words in past and I get a sense that she has a destain for black people who come from a less privileged background then her white-dominated private school education. She has no respect for her own working class people such as Mia and why would she shen she has never been around or grew up in the struggle. If you close your eyes and imagined her white we would automatically call her racist. She very much has "Karen" like attitude crying on queue, deflecting and playing the victim. This is purely 101 of 'Karen' Private school curriculum.
Candiace is a beautiful black woman aesthetically which is why she has been able to get away with so much racist stuff but she is holds white middle class attitudes, ideologies and values purely because of her upbringing so I don't blame her to a degree, she is the Romona of RHOP.
They are colorist.
She needs to go make another music video in another parking lot
Candiace seems really jealous of and fixated on Ashley. I get they've had issues previously, but try to move on or keep your distance and remain cordial.
No she's not jealous of Ashley, she's disappointed that's what I sense.
What is there to be jealous of? Candiace came on this show and Ashley instantly started shading her for no reason and they were supposed to be friends.
Jealous of what? Michael's a man groper who's stuck in the closet and wants Juan more than he wants Ashley. 😒
I totally agree with you 💯
@@Blaque07 I disagree!
Candiace is always the most verbally vile and aggressive and yet she always finds an excuse to be the victim. You can’t do virtual signalling if your virtues are questionable. Bye.
Oh so these ones are not vile at all ? And IK you don't call her Agressivr when we Have Big feet Mia and Rick Flair Dixon in the room
Candice acting like her wig isn’t covering her forehead. Candice says foul things and they’re always extreme and over he top. Then cries and plays victim. Ashley making a statement, is irrelevant, she wasn’t doing it out of spite. She told the truth. Ashley should be able to be friends with Monique, candice is forgetting her part in her and Monique’s altercation
I stand with Ashley and I think Wendy forgets that some of the audiences are really really educated people so she should stop addressing the other women like dumb people because it shows… Saying Ashley is a SLAVE is far far more racist than any other fucking comments. Duh Feels like Wendy is deflecting her insecurities in the group as bigger educated statements, she should just say what's in her heart and not deflect on someone else’s situation.
Wendy is delusional and thinks she is a know it all. She's a bully and thinks being a political commentator is enough to address racial issues but it's just a tactic she uses to justify her rude and aggressive behavior. How is that when she trashed Robin she didn't use her degrees and racial issues but when she's supposed to own up to her shit she plays the colourism card. Wendy has no respect and that has nothing to do with her being dark skinned and everything to do with her being insecure and a bully who uses her education to trash other women. Common sense goes a long way. Candice and Wendy are playing a dangerous game and they are a danger to black women all over the world. So irresponsible 😒. Dr of not owning up to anything. So classless (no pun intended).
I at this point dont care about Candice and her victim mentality when she constantly throws stones at people and pretends like she has amnesia when confronted about it. ITS ALL ON TAPE CANDICE!! She needs some growth!!! PERIOD
Candiace deserves the way her mom treated her.
Dorothy should get a crowdfunding for every new bag she hits Candiace with!🤣👍🏽
What a mess
I'm so tired of hearing Candice making EXCUSES all the time for her behavior
Is Candiace about to start crying
Am I the only one that is kinda enjoying Robyn in this reunion?
I love Robyn
Candiance, you’ve hit below the belt soooo many times. I don’t know if you deserve anyone to be on your side.
It doesn’t mean I don’t like you though
Xoxo
Candiace thought she ate with this, wheeewwwww chile 😝🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank goodness Robyn spoke up
I’m still mad about Candice calling Ashley wide body shaming is not okay
This is the first time i heard the word colorism. It doesn't make any sense
They mentioned it last year as well.
It is a thing but I don't see it at all in RHOP.
Only those insecure in their own skin want some form of validation from something that is nonexistent.
@@personaldove Dude.. We're white, so of course it's initially difficult for us to understand, but colorism is blatant in that group and denying its existence is part of one's privilege (of not having experienced it)
So you and your brother Bob are both white but he’s blonde and blue eyed and you’re not. Now ever since you can remember, your whole world has always just been about blonde & blue-eyes, from the fashion models you’ve seen on the runways to the major musicians on stage and the big movie stars on screen. Even the women in your community are partial to that nordic look when it comes to dating and marriage. In fact, blonde and blue-eyed is basically synonymous with the notion of beauty and desirability.
But all this isn’t anything new for you, you’ve known this all your life. Just like you’ve known that by being dark eyed and brunette you’re always 2nd best, whether its with girls, or opportunities available or whether you or a blonde white dude would be jailed, if both were accused of a crime. Everywhere you go there are ads telling you to stick contact lenses in every shade of azure in your eye, your vision be damned, and Loreal hounds you repeatedly about correcting that dark, off-putting problematic hair with hues of flaxen and gold, all so that you will no longer be so pathetically 2nd rate.
But what’s the point? It won’t be real. Nobody’s ever going to see your dark looks and then give a shit. Brunette’s don’t get to be the star, the MVP, the belle of the ball or the star quarterback. The biggest names in hip hop for example, aren’t going around marrying brunette bitches. And there certainly aren’t any brunettes being cast as heroes/heroines in the sensational sagas of Bollywood or across the world in the epic telenovelas of Latin America either.
Y’all know good and well you’re the wild and trashy white folk. The ones that aren’t as cultured or polished, the ones closer to the savage neanderthals of the old days in stark contrast to your blonde brethren. Those Aryan works of art are not only sophisticated and refined, but educated, enlightened and everything to everyone on this planet. And just more fucking trustworthy goddamn it! Chances are, a brunette will steal from you, or be a big slut, because y’all are just so damn angry and aggro all the time.
That’s colourism
@@Indigo_Boi757 i call bullsh*t
@@joshlgbt6372 I mean, had you maybe included which part or why, I could’ve taken you seriously but such an open ended response says it all. So, sure girl, you do that.
please fire candance
Honestly when candiace is told to hold accountable for her own actions she cry’s… cry’s cry’s and cry’s
She’s right too, Ashley acknowledged it exists but rightly pushes back against the idea the women do it to each other. You can’t accuse them of it each time they disagree. ‘This group is void of it’ because not everyone is colourist. That’s not hard to grasp Ms 4 degrees.
I love Candiace .
I’m not agreeing with everything Candaise does (especially last season) but the colorism is real this season so she isn’t lying, look how Andy treats Mia & how he treats Candaise about that whole Twitter mess!
I think the issue is how they address it. Mia quickly apologized and said she was sorry and would do better. Where as Candiace is defending why her actions are justified.
@@serenity1255 exactly.
Is Mia considered light skinned though?
Who else noticed that Wendy never corrects or says anything about or to Candice about her behaviour but seems to call out everyone else? I think she's trying to have a friendship with her & too scared to get on her bad side.
Wow to robin being the voice of reason, if she was more involved and less eye rolling and stepped away from the mean girl club with giz more often I could see her becoming a good mediator and balance between the girls
Ashley gathered both Wendy and Candiace effortlessly.
I don't like that when color is brought up everyone wants to immediately dismiss it and make the person who is bringing up look crazy
Exactly
Candice was out of line with the colourism, now some one will say she’s; “she’s a angry black woman”, now how would she feel when some said that to her, she’s got issues the girl is “bitter” and “jealous” of Ashley, period, 😡🤬
Always ready to cry. Mxhm
Man, tjat Ashley is such a rare combination:
- she looks so endearing and harmless
- she sounds so endearing and harmless
- is messy as hell
- speaks really well
And I have no idea what to do with that
Love Ashley!
Is Candiace trying to say Ashley calling her hair dry is colorist? As though black people with looser curls don't have dry hair too? It's not Ashley's fault that her your hair is dry Candiace, it's calling moisturizing and conditioning!
They just need to get rid of Candipshit already
Why was Wendy so quiet about the slave remark? Double standards? Or selective ignorance
Someone needs to take those tissue away from her . Ashley may be very shady but she is a much better person than Candice will ever be
Earn it a different way! 💯 ... Nailed it
I really feel like they can be great friends if there was no drama.
There are no tears at all
This racism and colourism is a cop out and Candice is deflecting this from her bad behaviour and character. Stop deflecting and own up to your s💩, boo. 😑
Ashley gathered them niiiice that's why she's my GIRL
Your girl literally defended that creep of a husband. Humble yourself please
I’ve never thought of Ashley as colourist but robin and giselle 👀 After they came for katie for no reason because she’s biracial 💁🏾♀️✨
her wig might’ve been what set them off LOL
Wendy doesn't seem insecure at all (which is what was repeated by four of the ladies all season). It's interesting how the lighter women seem to automatically believe the brown skin women are insecure if they have an issue with them. Because it has to stem from jealousy or envy and not because they genuinely have a problem with their behaviour & are calling them out on it. A lot of social commentary can be made from this assumption and this cast. Someone like Gizelle has been made to believe for so long that having a fairer complexion equates to beauty and anyone darker cannot measure up to her. No wonder Gizelle, Robyn and Ashley were confused by Wendy's confidence and her openly expressing her sexuality this season. For Wendy to be feeling herself so much must mean she is insecure & overcompensating? But they have never questioned Mia for her confidence or expression of her sexuality. The colourism in this cast is ripe. Candiace is held to an impossible standard in this cast. She never starts drama but will retaliate if anyone attacks. She's a smart woman and therefore has a sharp mouth. The other women use this to their advantage by provoking her. They know she will respond because she is an emotional person. And they villainize her the most out of anyone in the group; even though the other women have said some of the most disgusting and awful things. Whenever Candiace and Wendy bring up these instances of colourism, the other women won't acknowledge it. I mean, how can they? It's like trying to convince a white person who refuses to acknowledge white privilege because it would mean they have to accept that they benefit from it at the expense of non white people. And that is a hard pill to swallow.
So basically you can only move forward if she’s not friends with Monique? Girl bye
Omg, candice didn't rewind back whatever she said in the show! Come on
Ashley said G has Alzheimer's no one batted an eye. Had Cadiance said that....🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 Y'all would be calling her all kinds of evil
Why tf are they calling racism, colourism?
Because both are used interchangeably in the mainstream.
But a dark skinned people is also a race as opposed to a light skinned person.
nobody is doing that. Racism and colourism are two different things. This is about colourism (or the alleged)
@dreamland just to be clear tho, colourism isn’t about minorities arguing amongst themselves over who is more black or more Indian etc etc. Just in case your point made a tldr that was deeply incorrect lol.
I sont believe there is a colorism problem in this group. I think there's favoritism. I'm pretty sure Robyn and Monique were both called aggressive for the altercations they were in but for some reason people keep bringing their past up and forgetting that. Who were they not called aggressive by? Gizelle? Robyn is Gizelle's friend so of course she wouldn't call her out on camera however Gizelle also called Monique aggressive. They're both light skinned. The same way Gizelle doesn't call Robyn out on camera, Wendy does the same for Candiace. Did Wendy call Candiace out for calling a black woman hood and ghetto? Did she call Candiace out, on camera, when she called Ashley a slave and a roach? Nope. It's all about who's your friend so I adamantly believe there isn't a colorism issue, only favoritism. People only call out people who aren't their friends.
Isn’t candiace using race as a tool to win an argument?
Wendys question was so irrelevant...doin too much..
Kmt.
There is colourism in the group, I'm not expecting Ashley to see it, but how Robyn and Gizelle behaves, then turn around and accuse Wendy of being an asshole and aggressive is colourism.
However!
No one is showing colourism towards Candace. Kmt! What is Candace deal? She keeps saying how she "orates". Well Ashley "orated" back at her now she crying? Also, people can't be friends now because of her?
Ashley was getting her ass lol
Candiace needs to leave Ashley alone and move forward in her life
At this point its impressive that any of this woman’s do a massive eye roll every time Candice plays the victim and her aligator tears come out
If people don't get their own way they can manipulate by claiming prejudice.
Gosh sometimes I wish someone would pop Candiace again fr😒
She said her hair is dry. I have acquaintances with 1A hair and they complain it’s dry.
Monique did a solid number in Candiace and I love it.
Candiance is childish oh mY world.... Ashley is free to be friends with who she wants
Ashley was great at explaining her point of view.
Good on her even if I don't like her.
Apart from Candice repeating slave after Ashley no one can show us where she wrote it or said it.
Candiace is way too defensive it’s so embarrassing she’s so beautiful wish she could just be apologetic for the things she says instead of doing tit for tat all the time
You can have moist 4C hair. She was roasting her because she don’t look after her tips🤣🤣 not that she has 4C hair. Calling someone a slave is actually RACIST.