(Hearthstone) The Incredible Vanishing Valeera
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2017
- (KFT Standard) Two games: Vanish Miracle Rogue VS Big Priest
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Music: Symphony no. 1 - I. Langsam, schleppend - Immer sehr gemächlich by Mahler, performed by DuPage Symphony Orchestra - Hry
Are you really proud of yourselves for calling first when Kibler always uploads at the same time every day
Three Peopel saying that, that's sad.
misspelling people, that's sad
pressed play
scrolled down to read some comments
scroll back up, priest has 2 y'shaarj and a ysera on board
ok.
pretty much every lucky big priest.
barnes turn 4, maybe coin him out turn 3, gets y'shaarj, 1/1 y'shaarj gets 10/10 y'shaarj, next turn after 1/1 y'shaarj ded, play eternal servitude, get another 10/10 y'shaarj, y'shaarj gets ysera and that obsidian brick
yep....
Just yesterday I came back to the game after a year and got the Rogue DK in the first pack.
Instantly made a similar deck (with Mimic Pod and Thistle tea) and called it Valuera.
That sounds like you are leaving value town and heading straight into "too many cards in hand" town.
But... but... they're free!
Valeera is honestly the coolest designed death knight
A shame rogue isn't in a better spot right now.
Got Thrall, thanks Eryah! Even managed to beat the Lich King with 3 classes using old cards.
i personally think shadowreaper is the best designed. and i think best death knight in general. idk maybe that's just me. don't go throwing flames or your opinions at be cuz that top comment is a flame war. we learn history for a reason guys (shocker eh? never thought i'd say something like that)
I love how it's two games, one of him getting wrecked by big priest, and another of him wrecking big priest
Wow that ending music synergies so good with feelings after watching this game :)
Lol I listened this Symphony yesterday at the proms!!
I appreciate the Mahler 1 soundtrack :D
I love the fact that you ain't going straight for lethal but trying to get at least the most fun out of your current health, maybe pulling of a combo while already having lethal.
Not like: Oh I have lethal. End game.
Nice rogue though! Fun to watch! Greatings from germany!
Natalie (who I assume edits the videos to include the classical music) does a great job. If it is not her, whoever does it - kudos.
whats better for the deck he used: zilliax or valanar?
Anyone have any advice for a patches substitute? Should I bother with the swashburglars at all, or cut them for like 2 firefly's and something else cheap?
nurkadurka I'd keep the burglars and just find another early game card for patches like a loot hoarder
Ill try it out, thanks for the advice
wish i had the cards for this deck...missin so much :P
good games bro
the first priest bathes in champagne
I've got everything in this deck besides Vilespine Slayer - any replacement recommendations?
Erikamel Dust prince 4 and craft vilespline lul
Well, assassination gives you the same effect, if you are desperate for removal
Looking forward to that dragon rogue
Good job
Okay I've been watching your videos for a while, but why do all of your sounds echo?
Is it really worth cutting Sherazin for Valanar......? Must try.
BriseagainstM no
Plus one for music selection once again
Dragon rogue confirmed?
>:OOOO LET'S MAKE IT A THING WITH NOZDORMU BOIIII
I have all the cards in kibler's deck without trying. How successful is it?
Joshua D. The deck is pants, you want to go gadgetzan or Sprint, not both, if you choose to Sprint drop the hallucinations
bbbuster be a critical mistake to drop hallucinations because they're combo activators, drop arcane giant costs, value mechanism and an out for any situation.
ABflanagan523 I run 1 deadly poison and an obsidion shard along with 2 undercity hucksters. No SI agents if I was going to run a SI agent I'd cut 1 of my backstabs. Hallucinations can be amazing and if I ran gadgetzan I'd keep them but there not consistent, I also run a voss to change my sprints out late game. Hallucinations and Voss don't mix since turn 4 you'll hallucinate instead of Voss given the choose
How much success have you had with this deck Kibler? And is it worth dusting all my cards to make this deck?
Luke Kim no lol
That first Priest game was fun and interactive...seriously, how do you defend that?
Greg Maggi
Did you make fun of priest before? Maybe it's karma
thought he was gonna make a sick comeback with vanish topdeck in the first game
Jason Lee same
Jason Lee same lol
KIBLER! MAKE A DECK WITH ALL FOUR PRINCES lol
what with the resub and bits
Sprint is pretty good. Can be better than auctioneer in a few cases.
The lore. "Hey guys, remember when Edwin Van Cleef absolutely CLAPPED Y'Shaarj and won?"
Lol. Valeera build-your-own-Jade Idol.
I might sound dumb, but why would put Patches in a control deck?
Deck thinning and early tempo are important to any control deck that isn't trying to outbig another control deck.
4 mana 7/7 to thin out the deck. With it getting pulled out of your deck you have a higher chance to draw the cards you want. And it is of course is a good early game card
Anti-aggro start; best way to kill Patches & Crew is with patches. He was also running Swashburglar; minor change to add a lot of early game power. It also thins out his deck; instead of drawing some trash card he had to put in to reach 30 cards, his deck is basically 29 cards because Patches is removed for free. That means he draws into his better cards sooner.
Probably a few other things, these are the simplest ones.
Real answer : Why not ? Kibler already runs swashburglar, which is a great early game and late game card, and it has the pirate tag attached to it. Playing Patches thins out the deck and offers great early game pressure, while not having to play sub-par pirates for it to work.
I am certain the reason he plays Patches is _not_ to "thin out the deck." Yes, most of the time, it allows him to play a functionally 29 card deck, but that is basically inconsequential in nearly all circumstances, since there are plenty of other good cards he could play instead. And nearly a third of the time, it forces him to play an extremely weak card instead of something good.
The reason he plays Patches is because a free 1/1 Charge is very strong in a number of matchups. It's just a good card.
The Fiery War Axe nerf makes no sense to me.
lherrebout yeah it was one of the better control warrior cards, sadly the pirate cancer used it for aggro and x marks the spot
pirate warrior?
+lherrebout I understand fiery war axe, murloc warleader and the hex nerfs. But no idea why would they nerf innervate and spreading plague, not a druid main confirmed.
Zafras Frozen it seems like they wanted to nerf aggro tools and the OP druid deck
The point of this patch is to nerf cards that have been included in literally every deck since their creation, barring Warleader which only became relevant after they gave murloc decks too many tools.
eternal servitude is so focken broken
Big Rogue vs Big Priest
Can someone send me a Code of deck?
The big priest is so op
Science
feels bad he didnt get cabal shadow pirest and pulled that 1/1 y'sharjj
FOR SCIENCE!
Still waiting on galvadon final mix to drop and redefine the meta
After the nerf too druid,paladin,shaman and worrior what class rise up from the shadow (except priest) ?
Raul The Duelist Mage.
Druid and priest will still be 1 and 2.
XCVIII Go back to crazy walls :P Didnt know you played this lol
Xenf I havent touched MC for like 6 months. Not going back :P
I think Control Mage got stronger with those nerfs.
Big Rouge meta?
solid proof that if blizzard decide to nerf jade druid, priest will be the next cancer meta, hearthstone will never be balanced. RIP
Yeah because finally players can play with the big powerful cards that they spent dust to craft? lol fuck off
Da Bx That doesn't justify anything, dumbass.
I'm not so sure. If Big Priest gets to Druids cancerous point of more than half decks played, mages, shamans and rogues can fuck them pretty bad with sap, hex and poly. The problem is, with the new nerfs, are jade druids doomed? I'm not so sure yet.
Yes. When Blizzard nerfs druids they will be absolutely destroyed, that's how Blizzard nerfs things after all. They nerf it until it's unplayable.
balanced only if we all play with BASIC CARDS
I don't understand how they nerf innervate but leave eternal servitude alone even though it's completely broken
FOR SCIENCE
Watching a game against a Big EZ priest is like stabbing my eyeballs with forks. And I'm a priest main. Nothing about that deck is fun NOR healthy for Hearthstone.
Order LuL
8 mana: Replace your 1/2 weapon with a 1/3 weapon. Best card in the game
I don't know if you know the affects of Atiesh.
I don't know if you understand how jokes work.
I know how jokes work, the thing is that jokes are suppose to be funny.
Well, everyone's humor is different. Some might find it funny, some might not. Deal with it
All I said and meant was that it was not formulated well, no real punchline.
big priest is gonna be a worse cancer than jade druid sigh...
its pretty rare to draw barnes early
and eternal servitude right after that
and to get Y'sharrj into Y'shaarj. i see people get like that obsidian brick, and Y'shaarj, but youtubers tend to just upload the good stuff. watch anduin vs warrior by wronchi animantion to see how barnes can be useful or horrible it can be
its funny too XD
Valeera is a fucking Dragon?!
No, the shadow visions turns into a copy of the last card you played, so, since the drakonid operative is a dragon, and requires a dragon in hand to be triggered, it gets triggered.
LOL
Denis Cavalcanti Martins lol i didnt know that too... good to know
So this is a type of "auto-triggering" mechanic, it reminds me when i read a post i made 4 or 5 years ago :S
ThermoNuclear GR thinking the same about you
Wait.... why did Drakonid trigger again?
Cascade Hellsing hero power makes a copy of the last card you played, so drago triggered
Because science
After he played it, the Valeera card turned into a dragon.
Cascade Hellsing basically its because the sequencing of triggers. You play drakonid and THEN it checks for dragons in your hand. But it waits to check until its already been played. Valeera card trigger is being played. Hence (play drakonid>valeera card checks card played and copies it> drakonid hits board> drakonid check hand for a dragon and finds the new copy> discover)
Hope that helps
Because Blizzard is an indie company and can't be expected to iron out all the bugs for every new expansion, so they just say it is "working as intended" (insert Ben Brode laugh) and expect people to accept it.
Huehuehuehuehuehue
*Maiev bruh
Thanks for Mahler 1/1 :)
Big priest is so incredibly powerful it is disgusting . That ultimate feeling of clearing god like minions by turn 8 and then having to deal with another wave of it from eternal servitude . Or even the mass amount of ysera cards they get is enough to keep spawning minions and board clears . Priest have gotten so much buff this -game- expansion it is literally stronger than Jade .
Except the stats show it's not but a really contender for a top spot nonetheless. Token Druid, Jade Druid and Pirate Warrior are still the three top decks.
Edit: Until the nerf hits. We'll see how it looks then.
It is a very inconsistent deck though. for every game you see them go off they will have 3 more where they draw none of their rez spells, barnes or decent removal and will get blown up before they can get anything going. Got nothing on druid or pirate warrior in terms of win rate
Exocentric just because people recongize that priest is busted doesnt make us Jade Druids or Pirate Warriors players. Raza priest is the new tier 0.
Not that it would've mattered...but you can still attack Rogue when they are in stealth and damage the 5 shield armor.
You sure about that?
Nope, he's wrong haha
At 12:59, why did he say that he loses two giants for killing one of his minions? He could have killed the taunted lich king and then the statue and gone 2 and 2 with the minions instead of the statue first like he was going to. Did I miss something?
iliya193 He meant in theory he loses 2 giants he couldve had from the passive. You're right, that wouldve been the proper way if he hadn't chosen to vanish.
You dont play Sherazin qq
Replace for patches, bloodmage, vancleef and valanar?
Vinicius G. A different deck
Xenf feelsbadman
Vancleef is pretty huge. If you have any of the other Leg 4 drops like Sherizan or even Voss those are acceptable. Patches and Bloodmage can be more luxury so you can find stuff to throw in.
Vinicius G. Betrayal, shadow strike, shadow blade, any 4 drop legendary
Yeah sorry you should try a different deck if you are missing those cards. Be wary just copying kiblers deck btw, he creates fun, sometimes silly non meta decks that are not "efficient' for regular players to ladder with. he gets away with it because he is a great player
Am I the only one that hates Obsidian Statue? It can't be pained, deathed, Fireballed... and Priest has all the reanimation which makes it even more annoying. The most common pieces of removal are useless against Priest. Bleh
I agree. Maybe I'm not skilled enough to realize something I may be missing, but I think Obsidian Statue, paired with the current Priest mechanics of summoning a 5/5 from your deck, and discovering a dead minion, and then N'Zoth. I see it as one of the most absurdly bullshitty cards in the game. lifesteal, taunt, 4/9, deathrattle destroys an enemy minion. I can't think of any other card that packs as much power as this one.
The issue with Obsidian Statue is that it's basically identical to Sylvanus and why she was considered such a pain in the ass; they scramble your turn and force you into making hard decisions that totally halt all progress. If a Priest uses Shadow Essence and you have a few minions on board then you're basically forced to trade everything in. It feels like I wasted a turn and resources.
ultimate infestation?
There's always silence, though with all the ways to get it out on the field, you'd likely need to have a fair amount of silence in your deck I suppose.
Are you really complaining about Priest? Holistically priest has been non-Tier1 for quite awhile. It's refreshing to see Priest be on top for once. Also, there's plenty of ways to play around big priest, as you just saw, and with many different classes. Just because you lose to something doesn't make it OP. It might be annoying..but sorry if that annoys you.
It's a shame you lost the first game. Even though I mainly play priest, I don't like the big priest deck. Not as bad as druids, but still annoying to go against
Why doesnt he keep the fking coin
*"Valeera"*
Uganda
Yemen
that music is triggering
Uga
Missed lethal at 17:38.
Darakaa oh shit he did! Such an easy lethal too. Shouldn't have gone for that value play.
ha ha ha ....
Dont let this video fool you, if you try it you will lose 6-10 games in a row vs murloc paladin, pirate warrior or any deck...
Big Priest is more cancerous than Jade Druid.
There, I said it.
trdl23 not even close
trdl23 I can hardly win a game against em
Deck which win when you get lucky, lose when you're not. 50-50 chance, win-rate might be slightly above so no big deal at all.
big priest will die to 90% of the aggro deck. and it's even not that good against control decks. But I agree with you on the fact that when they curve out barnes into Y'shraaj on turn 4 and then eternel servitude it twice, it does feel cancerous. But it's not like Jade druid. Against jade druid, you know what's coming and you can't do anything about it.
trdl23 ya got guts kid.
too bad these people are going to rip them out
wow is kibler lose wtf
Why a medivh? Total pants as a rogue, what are you going to do, prep Sprint vanish for a 0, 4, 6 or a 0, 3, 7... this deck is bad.
ikr
even malkazar is better than that in rogue
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After watching Kibler i realised... he is just playing meta Decks and spam the Shit out of them cause they are fucking OP right now
its realy sad that there are realy rare streamers/youtubers who play some other decks like wowhob
I dont say you are unskilled but it just seems like it playing this Decks with 100000 dust
Tobi Hafner how on earth is this deck meta? The meta decks at the moment are
Jade Druid, token druid, and Murloc Pali and pirate warrior, and I don't see kibler playing them, I only see him playing hunter, control mage and I guess this deck
hahaha wut! how is this anything close to a meta deck! Rogue is in a terrible spot right now compared to the actualy "meta" classes honestly where are you even getting this from? How many vanish death knight rogues do you go up against in ladder? I think I have seen like 3 in the past week?
And kiblers other videos are him playing death knight hunter (not meta), handbuff paladin (definitely not meta) and death knight warlock which is maybe getting more popular but a difficult deck to pilot nonetheless
Tobi Hafner fuck yeah, wowhobbs is the man, he be all like; fuk da meta
Daniel Ellerton this is a meta rogue. Not a meta class
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