Cutting Metal With Water! HHO Torch Success - ElementalMaker

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  • čas přidán 23. 09. 2018
  • We finally have success of the HHO torch cutting through aluminum and stainless. Let me know what you want to see done with it!
    Please help support the channel on PATREON so I can continue making videos! / elementalmaker
    Here is the 5V-60A Power supply I'm using: amzn.to/2MGKyW3 (Amazon Affiliate Link)
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Komentáře • 388

  • @blzahz7633
    @blzahz7633 Před 3 lety +5

    I love how careless you are, it's entertaining because nothing really happens.

  • @amiaf
    @amiaf Před 5 lety +34

    How are you still alive dude?! In 4 minutes you burned yourself, your table, almost pointed the flame on the canister... Be carefull man, hydrogen is no joke

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety +18

      Pure skill man. That's how

    • @ahmdabdallah5811
      @ahmdabdallah5811 Před 3 lety

      God has said in the Quran:
      { O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous - ( 2:21 )
      [He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him]. ( 2:22 )
      And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. ( 2:23 )
      But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.( 2:24 )
      And give good tidings to those who believe and do righteous deeds that they will have gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they are provided with a provision of fruit therefrom, they will say, "This is what we were provided with before." And it is given to them in likeness. And they will have therein purified spouses, and they will abide therein eternally. ( 2:25 )
      Quran

  • @michaeltempsch5282
    @michaeltempsch5282 Před 5 lety +34

    A conductor doesn't really care whether it's AC at mains frequency or DC (for higher frequencies, see Skin Effect), but the straightener's 800W at 110V is less than 8A while the power supply's 300W at 5V is 60A.

  • @sourmash5715
    @sourmash5715 Před 5 lety +3

    for someone to grab a steel cup that had just held a torch to,shows there true intellect.

    • @LondonRednek
      @LondonRednek Před 5 lety

      You mean "their"? Sure showing yours, jackass! 😂

    • @williammorris1763
      @williammorris1763 Před měsícem

      Yes, steel. How stupid of me to think an aluminum can was made from aluminum.

  • @ppcgnamda
    @ppcgnamda Před 5 lety +64

    AvEs identical twin separated at birth and brought to America.

    • @danielstrobel3832
      @danielstrobel3832 Před 4 lety +1

      this guy MUST BE IvE!

    • @rob3125
      @rob3125 Před 4 lety +2

      And his name is dAvE 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @LuisLopez2
      @LuisLopez2 Před 3 lety

      I keep thinking both of them run their voices through pitch changer

  • @tako1257
    @tako1257 Před 4 lety +1

    If something is getting hot like the terminal posts, USE A HEATSINK! Also as an electrician i must tell you to isolate the open wires, its not much work but can prevent alot of things

  • @ericgillespie2812
    @ericgillespie2812 Před 5 lety

    Glad to see you got it working!

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize Před 5 lety +1

    WOOHOO ON YOU BUD ! I made a tumbler barrel the same as you have here and it works great. Thanks fella !

  • @DirtmopAZ
    @DirtmopAZ Před 5 lety +2

    This project is turning out to be one of those “bit off more you can chew” types hahaha. But you’re handling it like a champ!
    Plus, it’s creating excellent content for the channel! I love all the problems that get created after you fix a previous problem. Excited to see what the next problem will be after the heat sinks are installed haha.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety +1

      LOL im sure another one will yet pop out after I fix the electrode connection. Love these kinds of projects, as they always keep you thinking. Glad your enjoying!

  • @hyperhektor7733
    @hyperhektor7733 Před 3 lety +1

    well finally a very quiet method of cutting sheet metal, i will try that

  • @joeestes8114
    @joeestes8114 Před 5 lety

    Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

  • @survivalbert7017
    @survivalbert7017 Před rokem +1

    Nice! Combine your HHO- torch with a CNC, and you could cut some pretty cool metal items.

  • @azurplex
    @azurplex Před 2 lety +1

    For the 60A that your supply can deliver plus a 10% margin, you'll need #4 AWG wire!
    It also looks like you could use a baffle to keep electrolyte splash out of the tube.
    Like others mentioned, some "neutral" plates will cut down some of that waste heat, in other words, increased efficiency.
    Divide your supply voltage by 2.1V to find the number of plate gaps between your +V and -V terminals.

  • @SA601154
    @SA601154 Před 5 lety +1

    That laugh really makes me wanting to watch your videos again ahaha. Really nice work :)

  • @JasonVladimir
    @JasonVladimir Před 5 lety

    Cool stuff!

  • @hunterloren2323
    @hunterloren2323 Před 5 lety +1

    I love this project! HHO torches seem to catch a lot of shit for some reason, this looks like a lot of fun, practical uses aside, splitting molecules in the garage to produce an extremely hot flame sounds like a good time to me!

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety +2

      I think anything HHO gets a bad rap due to the potato brains trying to power their car and create overunity devices with HHO cells. It's definitely been an awesome project though, and the result has been great. Thanks for dropping a comment!

    • @hunterloren2323
      @hunterloren2323 Před 5 lety +1

      I heard that! I am hoping to try this soon, first I am still playing with a vacuum cannon i made from an old A/C compressor a neighbor gave me. Can only draw about 27.5"Hg so not sure if i can get the vacuum strong enough. Once i break the sound barrier in the shop with a ping pong ball I am hoping to try a few projects dealing with electricity. I saw someone produce Iron Oxide (III) using rail road ties, an electrolyte solution, and a 12v supply, seems like this would be cheaper to produce this way at home instead of purchasing the ingredients for thermite reactions.

    • @eyescreamcake
      @eyescreamcake Před 4 lety +1

      That's because there's no such thing as HHO. "HHO" is a scam created by an Italian dude to sell bullshit products. This is actually called a "water torch", and the gas is just a stoichiometric mixture of hydrogen and oxygen, called "oxyhydrogen", not "HHO".

  • @moonolyth
    @moonolyth Před 3 lety

    I'm a wire bender now for dental service. Very precise work! We do lots of silver soldering on stainless wire These are cool tools I want one. I also solder my own band saw blades I'll bet it works well for this type of stuff.

  • @MrKclo42112
    @MrKclo42112 Před 5 lety

    congrats ,that what I'd call success. that will come in real handy for micro welding electrical contacts

  • @thomasesr
    @thomasesr Před 5 lety +2

    You can use longer threaded rods and wrap the copper conductor directly into the rod and brace/clamp it with some thicker solid copper wire wrapped around it, the direct contact with the rod should allow more current without over heating and by using longer rods you can keep some distance to allow any heat to dissipate more.

  • @ethanmye-rs
    @ethanmye-rs Před 5 lety +20

    Just so you know, current capacity of a wire is a function of cross sectional wire, a material constant, and length.
    Power has nothing to do with wire size- a hair thin piece of copper can carry 1000W no problem if the voltage is crazy high or it is a very short wire.
    Also, the Verneuil process was commonly used to make ruby/sapphire/etc all the way back in the 1800s. Should be very doable with your torch.
    Consider buying al2o3 - the verneuil process is going to require fairly high purities.

  • @hamhawk4027
    @hamhawk4027 Před 5 lety

    Making synthetic ruby sounds amazing

  • @agentrfr1
    @agentrfr1 Před 5 lety +3

    You can solder the bolt where the copper bar, screw and bolt meet. That'll decrease the local resistance and should prevent that melting of the PVC

  • @patrickrooney8225
    @patrickrooney8225 Před 5 lety +1

    I would recommend that you extend the stainless rods enough that you can use 2 nuts to complete the connection to the lug. This will insure constant compression and reduce the heating because of melting thatch reduces the contact pressure for the connection.

  • @dalihbt
    @dalihbt Před 5 lety +2

    "Gasier than me on Taco Tuesday"...Lol hilarious. Cool HHO build!

  • @_P0tat07_
    @_P0tat07_ Před 5 lety

    You need one like the rhnb guy. He’s got a really killer torch. Cars and water I think is the channel.

  • @insAneTunA
    @insAneTunA Před 5 lety

    Inside the microwave ovens there are some nice ring magnets as well. Inside the ring magnets there is a ceramic like part, be sure not to touch, scratch or break that part since it is a very unhealthy material. I collected the parts from two microwave ovens a few months ago. I've seen the king of random video with the arc forge. He also made a nice spot welder from a microwave transformer. That might come in handy for making metal casings or housings for other stuff.

  • @insAneTunA
    @insAneTunA Před 5 lety +44

    300 watt is way to much for the cell that you have, since your cell doesn't have a lot of plate surface you should use a less strong electrolyte solution in order to make it work safely and reliable. Also ad a neutral plate instead of just one anode and cathode. Your voltage is too high as well, and that also results in heat production. By adding an extra neutral plate you will bring down the voltage per plate but the HHO production will increase a little because of the extra surface area. You are taking a lot of risk with melting the plastic, I have seen a few examples of exploding cells.
    You can melt sand into glass, you can carve names or random words into rocks, you can cut steel if you had more gas production, you can braze copper pipe with it, you can make jewelry, you can melt glass with it, you can refine gold with it. It has many applications. It's a very clean and extremely hot flame so you will have very little contamination.
    Also make sure that your steel wool is stainless, regular steel wool will burn and make things even worse in case a back flash occurs, but stainless steel wool doesn't burn. It's easy to check with a 9 volt battery. Short the battery with some steel wool (outside the house) and when the steel wool burns it is not stainless and not usable as a flame arrestor.

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 Před 5 lety +1

      insAneTunA try cigarrette filters, but don't abuse them....

    • @Draakdarkmaster6
      @Draakdarkmaster6 Před 4 lety

      i managed to make an HHO generator work cleanly and without excess heat just splicing apart an old laptop adapter, it put out 18 volts so i added neutral plates to bring the total of plates (including anode and cathode) to 9 to bring the voltage per plate down to around 2 volts and my HHO production was pretty good for the unit size and surface area of the plates, the rule of thumb i heard (and based on my testing seems to ring true) is that you want half as many plates as you have volts, and you want to optimally aim for 12 volts so that each plate gets 2 volts for optimal HHO production without wasting energy and producing heat. but i'll admit i'm a novice at this and thats essentially all i got.

  • @OverTaxed42Long
    @OverTaxed42Long Před 5 lety

    Taco Tuesday! "Tacos rule man". Love Tex Mex. I'll watch to see all you do with it now. Excellent video.

  • @CarcharothQuijadasdelased

    If the connectors of the cell get too hot you can try to weld the parts, just with regular solder, you may can use the flame of the cell it self to weld it, if the flame is hot enough to heat a spot before the PVC melts.
    Other option is use the TTL feature of the cell "Tiny Thermal Lance" ;) to melt the problematic parts together (just a few spots) that should melt steel and copper without heating up the PVC.

  • @ab_ab_c
    @ab_ab_c Před 5 lety

    Here are a few ideas that might be worth your time:
    1. Install a controller between the power supply & the reactor. It will allow you to set the optimal power level for your reactor (which should help to reduce the heat that is generated at your hot terminal).
    2. Attach a tightly fitting copper flange plate around your hottest terminal. Install an aluminum heat sink to the copper flange plate with heat conductive compound & then use a blow dryer fan to force cooler room air over the heat sink to dissipate the heat that is generated. If done properly, the copper flange plate should help to significantly increase the heat flow away from the stainless steel post--PVC junction to minimize the chance the PVC will melt.
    Thanks for sharing!

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety +1

      Both solid ideas! I am fabricating up a heat sink for it as we speak with essentially the exact design you describe

    • @ab_ab_c
      @ab_ab_c Před 5 lety

      Super. I hope it works well for your design & look forward to seeing if it will do the job well enough.

  • @Flederratte
    @Flederratte Před 5 lety +2

    Cool upgrade. I am very excited when you melt Al2O3. It will be interesting to see if it is easy to melt and how it will behave when molten. Maybe it is castable and stays in one piece so you can really make a piece of synthethic ruby.

    • @kleetus92
      @kleetus92 Před 5 lety +1

      That's not the production method... you need to fuse a fine powder onto a seed crystal or 'boule' to start from.

  • @tomconner5067
    @tomconner5067 Před 10 měsíci

    You also need a one way low resistance check valve right before the syringe tube so any flash back is prevented from traveling past the (brass wool) arrestor.

  • @1NRG24Seven
    @1NRG24Seven Před 5 lety

    I have the cure for this amperage draw problem. I finally discovered what Stan Meyers was doing even if he did not totally understand it or not. I have been experimenting with this technology since 1987 and first discovered that pure Nickel produces the most production but its real expensive stuff and well Stan was using 304L SS cause it has the highest content of Nickel. Anyway my research discovery led me to what I am calling the Holy Grail because it eliminates the need to use all of Stan's circuits and his type cells it works on "ALL" HHO cells because its a conditioned Pure water that Stan's electronics and various other devices like the HHO spark plug was doing. The key is what Stan said that he "preconditioned" the water and that is what his circuits did to set up a way that water could be split with little or no current and run cool in the process. Well this is what I am now making the precondition "HOLY GRAIL" that can be added to this existing device and bring your amps down to around point 5 amps instead of 30-40 amps and still get the same or greater production. I know it sounds to good to be true but I am blown away myself as I sort of stumbled on the information by accident and it confirmed what I wrote about over 10 years ago and that was that Stan was mimicking nature in thunderstorms. In particular high voltage plasma like in a lightning bolt and that was his UV lasers in the plug. But first the water had to be pre-conditioned to split with much less energy so once the intense UV lasers hit the water mist it charged it up to a high degree for the ultimate water splitting dump and KABOOM comes the thunder. Well the Holy Grail is all you will need to get the same effect which is an added feature so as to not need a thousand dollars worth of electronic wizardry to do it. And nobody has been able to figure that part out until now. So I would like to send you a sample for free so you can do a live test whatever would like you to also confirm it does what I believe it will do for everyone. Its not good enough that its working on my own build I need others to help validate this stuff cause it changes everything. You should be able to go from the 200 watts your drawing now which is 40 amps times 5 volts equals 200 watts to 70 times less current. So think of the implications, that means you can run 70 of these same HHO cells you built here and run all 70 for the same 200 watts and then be increasing your gas yield to run your car completely free from any other fuel just using the alternator or build enough cells to produce enough gas to make a much larger flame to do some real cutting like cutting through 6" of armor plate like butter or run your entire home off it by feeding a genset whatever the sky is the limit. I am now building a monster 220 plate system that will produce hopefully and this is a low estimate 60lpm. Call me or message me here or call @ 503 895 5909 and if I am not here just leave your number cause many times I am up in my shop and no cell service here or phone up there. But I am excited as hell over this its been almost 40 years and I now know why the water took so much current to split all the pieces of the puzzle came together and will release the information soon as I can get some more feedbackfrom guys like you doing some basic builds. Thanx man and never give up the world is about to change to a better place. Regards Mike in Heppner Oregon...we can do this!!!!
    BTW your the first on CZcams I have even said this much to. Good day.

  • @RyeOnHam
    @RyeOnHam Před 4 lety

    Will adding oxygen to the stream allow you to burn through metal more efficiently?

  • @ComputerAnarchy
    @ComputerAnarchy Před 3 lety +1

    EVERY video I come to, I see some comment mentioning AVE at the top. Rest assured, this content is much more enjoyable.

  • @bloodhound8000
    @bloodhound8000 Před 5 lety

    Nice project ! Try putting the torch head in a cnc to cut parts or possibly etching materials.

  • @drphu
    @drphu Před 5 lety +7

    Are the copper lugs just screwed down to the plastic lid with out nuts or washers on both sides of the lugs? if so that is causing a lot more heat if the thread was longer sticking out so you can have a washer on both sides of the copper, exceeding the size of the copper lugs and make that very Tight pinch of the copper lugs, that will help the heat.
    VERY COOL and DANGEROUS TOY LIGHTER! AWESOME!

    • @dannyanderson6472
      @dannyanderson6472 Před 5 lety

      it is the amount of current being drawn by the cell, it is more than the copper conductor can handle so it gets hot. he needs to reduce the saturation of his electrolyte solution in order to make the solution less conductive and therefore draw less current

    • @drphu
      @drphu Před 5 lety

      @@dannyanderson6472 Well it's Both reasons. I deal in power high power for a living and would not consider tightening a conductor down with only a conductor on one side.

  • @Orbis92
    @Orbis92 Před 5 lety +2

    In addition to some heat sinks, you could try to make a connection block out of some material like Teflon or some kitchen table sample blocks which should be heat resistant (don't ask, my dad uses them for all kinds of stuff, like knife handles...)

    • @OverTaxed42Long
      @OverTaxed42Long Před 5 lety

      Where do you get sample blocks of Teflon? I have a small sheet I salvaged from a lazy Susan I now use for various things like glide bearings in my dryer. Don't bother buying them off Amazon, they're crap from China and last about a month. Same with the drum rollers. Get oem.

  • @chasingcapsaicin
    @chasingcapsaicin Před 5 lety

    Braze your contacts with 95 silver, or 15% is what I had to use last week on a small compressor. Going from Cu to steel sucks but is possible, not easy, and takes a shitload of temp and flux(black) that seems to burn off but helps. Got a wine fridge from the trash heap now that holds 3 cases of beer. Woot

  • @theSFCchannel
    @theSFCchannel Před 2 lety

    For more performance simply use a Mid-to high end COMPUTER power supply. if you take the voltage from the PCIE-RAIL those can output at 12volts and 25 AMPS and more

  • @BRP42
    @BRP42 Před 5 lety +2

    “It’s gassier than me on taco Tuesday!” Best line of the week! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @fenderblues1744
    @fenderblues1744 Před 5 lety +1

    You could put some clip on heat-sinks on the top of those contact posts keep them cooler longer.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      If you see the more recent video that's actually just any what I did. Worked perfectly!

  • @TobiasKornmayer
    @TobiasKornmayer Před 4 lety

    Maybe try welding stainless with argon shielding via a bigger needle over/around the hho one.

  • @shadowwolf4430
    @shadowwolf4430 Před 4 lety

    I know this is a few years old but if your still playing with this you could install a mac valve from a airbrush supply company to control the gas flow

  • @st0n3p0ny
    @st0n3p0ny Před 5 lety +2

    Awesome. But, pro tip: Don't point your cutting torch at the oxy-hydro bomb that's sitting in front of your face.

  • @eemonster
    @eemonster Před 3 lety

    I got a hho welder and it came with a "booster" bubbler that it says to fill with methyl alcohol in order to make the flame bigger and less oxidizing

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 3 lety

      Pretty cool! Although I'd imagine the added methanol combustion would lower the flame temp a bit.

  • @rtonce
    @rtonce Před 5 lety

    Congrats on the successful cutting - nice. A next possible direction might be to produce hydrogen gas by chemically reacting sodium hydroxide and aluminum, and using the gas pressure to regulate the NaOH level, so regulating the reaction to produce as needed hydrogen gas? If done right, no need to store too much gas, but just produce it OTF. Uses= producing hydrogen to power a regular gasoline engine from scrap aluminum.

  • @mystamo
    @mystamo Před 5 lety

    EM nice job on keeping with the DIY theme and going with the needle. The blunt tips did the trick. As for something to try...Fill a balloon and blow it up stat!.. Wasn't that the first thing you were supposed to do?

  • @james10739
    @james10739 Před 5 lety

    I was thinking about building one maybe getting some aluminum allthread for the penetration then go to the stainless to mitigate heat in the pvc cap

  • @quertize
    @quertize Před 5 lety +1

    Won't steel wool be bad? It is flammable.

  • @norbist2
    @norbist2 Před rokem

    If you change the polarity the other electrode will be hot. Direction of curent flow matters copper to inox, or inox to copper. One heating up, another cooling down (but at high amps not cooling down just not as hot like another electrode), like peltier plate.

  • @margaretruhe6019
    @margaretruhe6019 Před měsícem

    You can marry two dissimilar metals together with this gas. Try thin copper & marry it to your alum can. It does it cleanly with no rough edges.

  • @TheGregstorm
    @TheGregstorm Před 5 lety

    Where'd you find that cool mat?

  • @kreynolds1123
    @kreynolds1123 Před 8 měsíci

    If you get a second cell and wire the two cells in series youll drop about 2.5v volts across each cell For more efficent electrolisys.
    Alternately, you could wire two cells in parallel with one set of 10 gauge to one cell and another set of 10 guage wires to the other cell

  • @Mr.Unacceptable
    @Mr.Unacceptable Před 5 lety

    Could you add a one way check valve after the arrester and feed it into a thick balloon to create pressure? Or is this dangerous in a way I'm not seeing?

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      I know pressuring hho gas cab be quite dangerous, but the pressure to fill a balloon should be no issue. I'll give it a go for sure!

  • @WestCoastPicks
    @WestCoastPicks Před 5 lety

    A Bit of silicone tube around the bolts would insulate the PVC from the heat.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      If you check out my more recent videos I was able to get the issue sorted with a couple heatsinks. Silicone tube definitely would have been a nice touch though! Great idea right there

  • @bobgrant-beer3020
    @bobgrant-beer3020 Před 5 lety

    Great stuff mate. Could you use Brass or Copper nuts,bolts and washers on the terminals on the reaction vessel? To lower the resistance maybe. Replace the top cap with Tufnell ( it might be called by a different name U.S) it's got good thermal and electrical insulation properties. Just a thought. Take Care Mate.

  • @CSGATI
    @CSGATI Před 5 lety

    Double connection on the PVC 2 wire ends clean all oxidation off use grease to keep oxygen off.

  • @christopher-tipstrumleslie6307

    THAT, is a hot torch. Can it cut rolled steel? With a cutting interface that thing could save a lot of labor and time and fuel.
    The men in black are on their way!

  • @AtlasReburdened
    @AtlasReburdened Před 5 lety +26

    Uses? Learn to work glass. That's a skill worth having and I'm pretty sure you can dabble with jointery and small art even with the steam filled HHO that cell is putting out.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety +6

      Didn't even think of doing some glass work with it, great idea!

    • @BRP42
      @BRP42 Před 5 lety +1

      I work with glass, and it would be fun to experiment with this!

  • @rumblertag8933
    @rumblertag8933 Před 5 lety

    Harnessing the power of the gods

  • @thenighthaunter6342
    @thenighthaunter6342 Před 5 lety

    Great deal to pain may be so bold as to add to your build? Try running that through a radiator submerged in another tank of nice cold water with ice in it you should up your used time for it greatly and you won't run the risk of melting anything

    • @thenighthaunter6342
      @thenighthaunter6342 Před 5 lety

      And it most certainly wouldn't hurt instead of using water use dry ice and rubbing alcohol then you damn near got yourself some cryo fluid and it should have been indefinitely for quite some time

  • @PYROBOY724
    @PYROBOY724 Před 5 lety

    Looks good, maybe try incorporating a radiator to cool the water in the PVC down, could help with your heating issue

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      Very solid idea! If I have to do any long runs that will be a great solution for cooling the cell.

  • @waterfuel
    @waterfuel Před rokem

    Super heated steam was used during 1950's in Texas by US servicmen to
    run used fuel oil furnace on water line. Oil used to preheat fire pot
    and S.S. coil tubing + water to 1500 degrees. T fitting and extra valves
    mounted. When up to temperature, oil valve shut off. The resulting
    hydrogen and oxygen torch flame continues furnace running. 90 lbs
    pressure + 90lbs water lines with dual pumps and central motor with
    blower. U.S. patent application filed, but only resulted in final
    printing of 50% increase in efficiency with ordinary steam as only
    allowed to public. ( The change of high pressure to AMBIANT through tiny
    spray nozzel allowed for extreme vibration of vapor molecules that
    separated to gases,- at a much LOWER unusual high temperature. ) A much
    smaller demonstrator was built and shown to Senater in large wooden box
    with fire brick chamber and steel ring with holes- like coleman stove.
    Units have to be restarted on fuel oil.
    Manuscript delivered to
    Patent office was approved, but redone to Patent, to only allow 50%
    efficiency increase of oil furnace by addition of steam from water line
    to spray nozzle. Military soldiers off duty during 1950's collected used
    jeep oil to burn in used oil furnace. They attached water line SS
    tubing coil in insulated fire pot and by monitoring temperature point
    would open valve for T fitting to allow steam line mixed in. The steam
    had been changed to super heated steam with flame on coil. At 1500
    degrees F, the oil valve was shut off , allowing A Hydrogen and Oxygen
    torch flame to continue. Furnace provided constant heat unless water
    line shut down. If temperature then was reduced, then oil had to restart
    furnace to get it back up to proper temperature. Motor had dual shafts
    for 2 oil pumps for 90lbs. each. The highly sensitized H2O at great
    pressure was subjected to vibration shockwave when exiting pinpoint hole
    nozzle to AMBIENT. The gases separated and burned with the 10Kv
    ignition. The lowered dissociation temperature of steam was realized,
    rather than normal 3-5000 degrees F. A much smaller working burner unit
    with fire brick surround in large box was shown to senator in under
    ground parking garage. No further news came afterwards.

  • @IanDarley
    @IanDarley Před 5 lety

    It might be worth considering putting the generator inside another containment or under your bench, just in case you get an internal spark from one of the electrodes. A face full of hot sodium hydroxide would be really really bad. Keep on keeping on with the experiments.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      The generator itself is nearly filled to the brim, so there is very little room for the gas to explode even if it were to make it past the flashback arrestors. The solution is also quite weak, being less than 1% NaOH.

  • @Z-Ack
    @Z-Ack Před 3 lety

    Wonder how good of a brazing torch that would make..
    But in regards to the pvc melting if you take apart a hair drier you can use that "x" mylar coated non conductive insulator as a gasket between the contacts and pvc...

  • @tako1257
    @tako1257 Před 4 lety

    Is the flame bright enough to damage your eyes? Are welding goggles required?

    • @tako1257
      @tako1257 Před 3 lety

      @Tudu TDM Which one are you awnsering? Why are you even awnsering 4 months later? Im so confused

  • @droneofwar9437
    @droneofwar9437 Před 5 lety

    Do ya think you can use the gasses generated in a combustion engine?

    • @Draakdarkmaster6
      @Draakdarkmaster6 Před 5 lety

      some people do, supposedly they get really great mileage that way on account of the fact that internal combustion engines rely on gasoline vaporizing in the chamber, being pulled into the piston and exploding to produce work. it also helps that hho gas is more volatile than vaporized gasoline on average.

  • @lancemenke2728
    @lancemenke2728 Před 5 lety +3

    smooth tip and enough gas flow to get a gap between tip and flame always works best anytime O2 is in the mix. Adjust the power supply down to get optimum current. there is a adj pot on the supply. To high of cell voltage will overheat everything cell terminals ect ect also the power to high on cell causes O3.....4..5 as the temp goes up so does this factor and as number increases the flash point goes down rapidly!. hho has very low density a atm and burns extremely fast the low density makes the bang from the reduction of volume after the wee bit of heat so producing even greater reactivity of the O increases burn rate dangerously.
    @2.5 volts the separation is at minimum reduce voltage by 1/2 a volt should help for operation of few minutes. Thermal and fluid level fail safes save from have to pick pvc bits out of your body. I have built these out of soda pop bottles but they always failed because plastic loses strength at low temps. Repurpose stainless steel thermos cup or something stronger never use glass for HHO and add basic fail safes if you don't feel explaining to the ER nurse how you ended up with such a large chunk embedded into your ...... and the number of times you will be ask now how did .... not fun justasayen

    • @lancemenke2728
      @lancemenke2728 Před 5 lety

      p.s. back flow/flash is very important !. good ones that actually function some stainless wool stuffed in a tube is a fail to sum it up

  • @Kizmox
    @Kizmox Před 5 lety

    Simple fix for melting terminal posts: Do not clamp your cable lug connections on plastic! Make a feed through metal bushing to carry the clamping force through the plastic. Your current setup will fail every time the plastic gets even warm-ish.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      I believe that's what I will end up doing. Very good idea

  • @ergohack
    @ergohack Před 5 lety

    I think that what you need to do to solve the heating problem would be to increase the conductivity of your electrode busbars. Stainless has ~43.5 times the resistivity of copper, so you'd need something around 3/4" allthread to have similar conductivity to 10AWG copper wire. Since that is a bit bulky for your current set-up, it might be better to try and make some threaded rods out of copper, and have them chrome-plated. Another thing you could try would be to use stainless tubing, put both an external and internal thread on it, and then give it a copper core by threading in a piece of copper bar.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      I would love to use copper all thread, but it will rapidly deteriorate in the HHO cell, at least on the anode side. I have a few ideas to get it working better though!

    • @ergohack
      @ergohack Před 5 lety

      That's why I suggested getting it chrome plated.

  • @greglaletin
    @greglaletin Před 5 lety

    Just as said before the power running through the cable isn’t what heats it, it’s the currant. The thin cable has a small resistance, that resistance X current tells you what voltage is lost in the cable. That voltage X current again tells you the power that is wasted as heat in the cable, so in your cable the power used to heat the cable increases exponentially as you increase the current. Also buy cables from hobby shops, it’s silicon coated so won’t burn and the copper is very fine strand that is silver coated, great for 100+ amps in 10awg.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      Yeah I had a brainfart while filming and realize how poorly of an engineer I must sound LOL

  • @franktedder1236
    @franktedder1236 Před 4 lety

    So instead of PVC, what else could you use to build the generator body?

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 4 lety

      Anything that holds liquid and is air tight. I wouldn't recommend glass though for obvious reasons.

  • @landroveraddict2457
    @landroveraddict2457 Před 5 lety

    Dude i laughed when you picked up the cup, sorry but it's just the kind of thing I would do and I was happy to see someone else make the mistake. One thing you need to be aware of is arc eye sun burn on your eyes is not fun. Be careful when heating to white hot use dark UV safety shades.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      Yeah for much of this I did have my welding goggles on, just didn't show it. The first time I played with it burning stainless without proper eye protection I had a couple purple spots in my vision for a few hours

  • @evilcanofdrpepper
    @evilcanofdrpepper Před 5 lety

    You could setup something to hold the gas like NightHawkInLight's water bucket system but have the buckets held in place so if something goes boom it just dissipates the energy into the body water instead of your body...

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      That's a great idea! I definitely want to try something like that

  • @manningcustom
    @manningcustom Před 4 lety

    will it braze steel?

  • @Inventive101
    @Inventive101 Před 4 lety

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 cool

  • @nyuuparadise1183
    @nyuuparadise1183 Před 5 lety

    Hey do think you try separate hydrogen from the oxygen "purify"

  • @officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408

    How about using a current driver, or a SMAW for a power supply? :D get some pressure out of it.

  • @thelastsheepdog
    @thelastsheepdog Před 5 lety

    Great videos one of my favorite channels period. I'm really into bush craft like allot of channels here. How about some all weather fire starters for survival camping in cold wet snowy weather conditions.r

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      That's an awesome suggestion! I'll definitely work on a video 👍

  • @dahuskey81
    @dahuskey81 Před 5 lety

    Hey bud, I love what you do! As I do a lot of tinkering and coming up with crazy stuff as well. The issue that I saw you running into to with this video is that your copper electrode is over heating due to the amount of resistance that is passing through that node. Do you know the exact current you are looking for? Do you need it at the max 50 Amps? One of my suggestions to possible try is adding a heat sink, by either adding a resistor between the two nodes say around 10k Ohms (To act as your heat sink) and then letting 49.5 Amps running to your circuit. That in theory should eliminate part of the over heating part. My calculations was that 5 V / 50 A = 100 ohms of resistance in your main non split reaction. By taking the Current and splitting it up with a 10 K resistor in parral with the 100 ohm resistance of your main circuit, you can leak 0.5 A; I2 = (10k / 10.1k ) * 50 => 49.5 and use that energy as coolant. May give you more time running before you PVC pipe says "Done". Shoot you could even put on a variable resistor to adjust the current depending on how much gas you need. Damn it man now I am going through a rabbit hole!! Just keep it up bud you are an inspiration :)

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      If you check out the more recent videos you will see I got the terminal overheating issue sorted using heatsinks. Working great thus far!

  • @forge20
    @forge20 Před 3 lety

    None of the kids understand power, really, they all think HHO is "free". "Essentially, we're taking the power from here, losing about 50% efficiency, and putting it all right here at this point." Yep. Not the electric device I'd choose for cutting metal personally, but super fun.

  • @noahhastings6145
    @noahhastings6145 Před 4 lety +6

    "The Home of the Sombrero Showdown" demolished "The Homeless Despot"
    You and AvE should make babies. Babies made of metal.

  • @willieilson2873
    @willieilson2873 Před 5 lety

    Where did you get your power supply from

    • @Mr.Unacceptable
      @Mr.Unacceptable Před 5 lety

      You can get them from Ebay. They are used a lot in lit signs and displays. Careful the type you buy. Some types will not turn on until the load is pulling at least half the rated amps. They come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. You can get them cheaper if you look for used server power supplies If your chance of blowing them up experimenting is high.

  • @Tallisman1000
    @Tallisman1000 Před 5 lety

    I’d like to see if you can make carbon obtain ferrous properties after heating it with HHO gases...
    I heard it is attracted to a magnet afterwards!!!

  • @WineScrounger
    @WineScrounger Před 5 lety

    For a meatier power supply and AC, how about a welding transformer?

  •  Před 5 lety

    Maybe oversizing the terminal holes and filling it with epoxy would insulate the PVC enough for it to run a decent amount of time.

  •  Před 5 lety

    You need old school fibre washers on your electrical connections to stop the heat melting the plastic.

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz Před 5 lety

    I would like to see limelight. Melt stuff!
    Can you weld with this gas?

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety

      I forgot to mention it, but I'll be doing limelight as well! That's why I originally built the cell, LOL talk about a derp moment on my part!

  • @rhenway
    @rhenway Před 5 lety

    You can get that plug in brass, and with some Teflon plugs you should have your problems solved.

  • @davidduquenne516
    @davidduquenne516 Před 4 lety

    Nice torch I think if you look on the web though you'll find a paper by the Air Force. Creating HHO with DC pairs the hydrogens up and they have to be broken apart in the burning process to create water. If you use 2 volts ac the hydrogen's will not pair up. And you'll find the properties of the gas will heat anything to its melting point.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 4 lety

      Hydrogen is a diatomic element, so one hydrogen atom will always pair with another unless some very, very rare conditions are met.I hate to burst your HHO bubble, but whomever made that claim to you is selling snake oil.

  • @Krawacik3d
    @Krawacik3d Před 5 lety

    I think you'll need much more power for melting things. Cheap way to get powerful PSU is to buy PC power supply($60 for 1200W). And you will need to have separate oxygen and hydrogen line to be more flexible. Sometimes you'll have to have more reducing flame and sometimes more oxidising one.

  • @jeetenzhurlollz8387
    @jeetenzhurlollz8387 Před 4 lety

    do sapphire..it does not need chromium...iron titanium aluminium oxide some copper sulphate or copper oxide?

  • @grantkeller8024
    @grantkeller8024 Před 5 lety

    Maybe try Bakelite plate for terminals.

  • @joajaimemarti4556
    @joajaimemarti4556 Před 5 lety

    Try using heat resistant kit that should do the trick

  • @haroldarmstrong6288
    @haroldarmstrong6288 Před 3 lety

    Do you think you could braise or TIG weld Maybe with it?

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 3 lety

      Braze, definitely, but TIG no way. The flame is way too reactive given the oxygen content for the whole "inert" part. I'm sure it could be used as oxy acetylene welding was done back in the day though

    • @haroldarmstrong6288
      @haroldarmstrong6288 Před 3 lety

      @@ElementalMaker sounds cool. Yeah I hadn't thought about the whole inert gas thing

  • @cushionofair
    @cushionofair Před 5 lety

    You could try welding a nail or nails to stone

  • @quantumlab9130
    @quantumlab9130 Před 5 lety +4

    You should make a dry cell, it will be much better. It runs much cooler and draws much less current and produces way more gas.

    • @AtlasReburdened
      @AtlasReburdened Před 5 lety +1

      Plus the output won't be so full of steam and toxic side reaction gases.

    • @Orbis92
      @Orbis92 Před 5 lety +1

      Which toxic side reaction gases are you talking about, except the melting pvc pipe? I am no expert, but shouldn't there be just H², O² and steam...

    • @OverTaxed42Long
      @OverTaxed42Long Před 5 lety

      @@Orbis92 stuff being cut, burned, melted, welded. Those gases.

    • @ElementalMaker
      @ElementalMaker  Před 5 lety +2

      @@AtlasReburdened there aren't any toxic fumes from the hho generator. Just hho and some steam.

    • @AtlasReburdened
      @AtlasReburdened Před 5 lety

      ElementalMaker That depends on the electrolyte, the maximum voltage between any two points in solution, and the distance between them.

  • @stumask
    @stumask Před 5 lety

    you need to use a PWM pulse width modulator

  • @landroveraddict2457
    @landroveraddict2457 Před 5 lety

    Try copper heat sinks on each post