Howard Tells The "Truth" About Chuck | Smoke | Better Call Saul
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- Howard tells Kim and Jimmy the tale of events leading up to Chuck's death.
From Season 4, Episode 1 'Smoke' - Jimmy struggles to cope with Chuck's tragic death. Mike ponders his role at Madrigal, and Howard makes a startling confession.
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Better Call Saul is the prequel to the award-winning series Breaking Bad, set six years before Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk) became Walter White's lawyer. When we meet him, the man who will become Saul Goodman is known as Jimmy McGill, a small-time lawyer searching for his destiny, and, more immediately, hustling to make ends meet. Working alongside, and often against, Jimmy is "fixer" Mike Erhmantraut (Jonathan Banks), a beloved character introduced in Breaking Bad. The series will track Jimmy's transformation into Saul Goodman, the man who puts "criminal" in "criminal lawyer."
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At the start of the show you get the impression that Howard is this arrogant, entitled dude that keeps Jimmy down for no reason. The truth is Howard is probably the best person in the BCS universe.
had to rewatch BCS for this reason
Well, he still took down Jimmy’s billboard and refused to pay the hookers
@@johnye4433 How dare Howard refuse his harlets.
I felt that way in the first season, he’s a little arrogant but not even very badly
Nacho's father was the best
Howard: "I think I might have pushed Chuck to commit suicide"
Jimmy: "That's rough, buddy"
Avatar reference very nice
"Oh no. Anyway.."
Jimmy pushed Chuck totally.
@@msitaramaraju it was the last traw that broke the camels back but jimmy gets all the credit for chucks death or he’ll we could prolly blame chuck jimmy might have been a respectable member of society if chuck didint always try to bring jimmy down nd refusing to acknowledge jimmys efforts to change
I'm gonna go get da papers get the papers
This was the reason Howard was able to move past Chuck's death and Jimmy couldn't. Howard didn't dodge his guilt.
What?
As far as I noticed he never remorsed his action with the insurance company.
He moved past Chuck and never looked back.
Or am I wrong?
@@Mastakilla91 I think the other side might say that jimmy's "style" of "moving on" was to restlessly continue in his hustle which is what this series is about in a way.
Jimmy moved on from Chuck when he had his last conversation with his brother.
@@DeletedDenizen No, he does not, we see at the season 4 finale when he breaks down in his car how he is still in a lot of emotional pain and in bagman he refuses to wear the space blanket and prefers to be cold because it reminds him of chuck. Chuck left a scar in jimmy that won’t go away that easy.
@@Mastakilla91 He is remorsed as hell but the way he deals with it is just trying to ignore those emotions. Him trying to ignore his brother and pretending he is ok just shows how deeply it still hurts him to think about his brother.
When Chuck said to Jimmy, “You never mattered all that much to me.”-
This is Jimmy’s coping and revenge on that line.
yeah albeit the person he's doing it to is dead and isn't here
Really, the entirety of BCS can just be summed up as “Cope, Seethe, Mald”
He copes, he seethes, and he becomes bald Gene Tacovic.
@@It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise I have never heard that, but I appreciate now knowing it because of you. Thank you.
That makes a lot of sense. It seemed that Jimmy resented Howard for having the friendship and respect of his brother that he never got, so he enjoyed constantly humiliating him and making him look like a degenerate.
@@kuro6001sure, but jimmy is here, and he doesn’t want to feel guilty for a man that didn’t care about him (honestly quite understandable)
Props to Jimmy: even in this time of financial strife, he could afford to send his brother on a trip to Belize.
Heard it’s hot there
I’ll send *you* to Belize
Who is Billy?
@@nothere413 Huh?
@@cpotisch everyone in Breaking Bad and BCS is always talking about trips to Billy’s, but who IS Billy????
howard: “i think i pushed chuck to commit suicide”
jimmy: “well that sounds like a YOU problem”
Gangsta shit there
Jimmy is trying to pretend he didn’t contribute to the situation with the insurance
Saul: No i think it's very much an *us* problem.
"Well Howard, I guess that's your cross to bear".
Mike: "Yup..."
"That's your cross to bear." Now this line can be returned to him. Look at what you've done, Jimmy.
Spoiler alert
After breaking bad finishes, I feel like it's him who didn't get out clean - at least Howard still has his life, and most of all, I'm sure Howard will come to terms with his part and realize that what happened happened and end up finding peace
@@riograul2043 he found peace in heaven
@@whatno3145 Thank you I didn't know that I only watched breaking bad
@@riograul2043 oh mb for spoiling it I thought you already knew
@@whatno3145 I think I saw it in a clip, you're good man - even if I had, I have no plans on watching it I invested too much time in breaking bad already so I just watch little clips on CZcams.
It’s amazing how this conversation means something different to all 3 characters
You're telling me a lantern just 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘴 to fall like that?
No! He orchestrated it! Chuck!
In Lego city, does a man just happen to fall like that?
@@ECJ49HE WORE A SPACE BLANKET CLUCKIN CHUCK
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Well, this scene hits different now doesn’t it?
Poor Howard
Yep. Howard’s spiral into depression and insomnia begins right here, in the flat, being honest with Jimmy and Kim. The next time he comes here, he’s just as honest and upfront with him, but it’s not because he wants to be helpful, it’s because he’s confronting with them with who they really are. And then he dies.
Howard saying he never thought he could hurt Chuck... is exactly what Jimmy and Kim did to Howard
@@TheScoppie we don’t know when his depression started, but I think it was due to his divorce rather than Chuck’s death
@@marcomeister4647 it Waa because of the umbrella incident
I went from despising Howard in season 1 to feeling genuinely empathetic and understanding of him. Some of the greatest character development I've ever seen, honestly.
You know, watching breaking bad and seeing who saul actually is and how he defend a bunch of clearly guilty criminals, when howard is antagonizing jimmy i actually root for him and chucky.
@@marksantiago9841 Well it is partially chuck’s fault for that. He failed to see that Jimmy saw him as his hero and idol, and thought very loudly that Jimmy would never change. When you’re told that by the only person you’ve ever looked up to and even start to be responsible for their death, you start to lose your purpose and good will which is how Saul was born. If Chuck hadn’t been so cold then they would’ve actually worked together like Jimmy wanted in the first place. Saul *is* who Jimmy is, but he wanted so desperately to be shown otherwise and all he got was scorn.
True story?
It wasn’t character development it was just getting to know him better
@@dexterf5220 True that.
The look of shock and hurt Howard gives at 2:37 is amazing.
Agreed. They nailed this scene. How does your heart not break in half after that look?
@Tuscan417 caught up in one of the worst sibling rivalries that doesn’t involve a demon named Sparda and just kept getting dealt the worst hand for being on the wrong side, unknowingly
That look makes me want to give Howard the finger, he wasn't blameless in all this
@@enjoyitbrocool it with the edge bro
@@enjoyitbrokid named the finger
It's ironic how this scene is Jimmy being cruel to Howard, letting him believe that he is solely responsible for Chuck's death, but in the long run, Howard goes to therapy, works through his guilt, and is able to move past it, which just makes Jimmy even more jealous, because he was able to process the guilt in a healthy and productive manner, something that Jimmy was never able to do.
Well by this point Jimmy didn't care anymore. Chuck was dead to him when he told him he never mattered to him.
@@pelu101 if you have to say "you're dead to me" the other person is not dead to you.
@@scottmatheson3346Did Jimmy actually ever said that to chuck tho?
Honestly I think Jimmy died along with Chuck. He's definitely leaned more into his Saul Goodman persona from that point forward
This is the exact moment that...
@@popkornking dammit, I should have used different verbiage.
@@popkornking never gets old hahaha
Chucks death definitely pushed Jimmy way in the back but I think Jimmy is gonna be fully dead only after he loses Kim.
@@Gabe791 I agree
I always feel bad for Howard.
He's the Skyler of BCS. He has what the main character claims to have and so much more he's mostly in the right and eventhough not perfect (because no one is), at least trying his best. Yet because of the framing of the show, at least on the surface of things, the main character looks good and he looks bad. Only when you actually start thinking about them you realize that Howard and Skyler are the good guys while Jimmy and Walt are the problem.
@@EvolutionArchive23 Hey, I found one of those people that didn't understand Breaking Bad.
@@EvolutionArchive23 You are hilariously incapable of critical thought. She is everything Walt claims to be: strong, smart, caring for her family. But just because incels like you can't accept that, there exists this uninformed movement of hatred.
@@EvolutionArchive23 lol. I too, also hate skyler. to put it into more delicate terms, she was only good the most mundane of ways. If and when she was pushed, she railed and deflected all problems back to Walt. She did not put the effort that a brave person would.
@@DrZaius3141 I don't know man, Skyler cheated on Walt, then used Walt's drug money to give it to her ex lover, whom ended up using it for his own selfish reasons rather than obeying the law. Sure, it's drug money, bad money, illegal money, but it wasn't her money, it was Walt's. Is she a bad person? No. Is Walt a better person than her? No. But let's not pretend Skyler was the Messiah of the show.
Better call Saul was set to be just another spinoff show… instead it lived up to its predecessor, and in some ways surpassed it. Some of the most beautiful acting in TV history.
thats what happens when you have an amazing cast of actors and directors
Just another spin off show *made by Vince Gilligan* the guy is incapable of bad writing.
@@alexman378 plenty of great shows by great writers have greenlit spin-offs that fail horribly
@@gucketjug Yes, and what do they all have in common? They don’t have Vince Gilligan behind them. 😜
@@alexman378 lol! Great point 😂
An interesting part is that Jimmy says “look at her go” after feeding the fish, but the fish hasn’t even noticed the food or moved much.
along with the whistling, etc, he's pretending (or perhaps even denying to himself) that he cares about the fact that it was actually a suicide, howards supposed guilt or even his own responsibility in pushing chuck to the brink via his own actions that directly raised HHM's insurance rates
@@krollic he’s happy that there is someone else to take the blame and that no one has a clue about what he did……. Seeing Howard suffer allows him to push his true feelings about Chucks death away
@@carson11100 or may be he's feeling proud for being responsible for Chuck's death, kind of having his revenge realized. In either case in this moment we can see the dark side of Jimmy surface
@@gambetamaster9804 possibly.
@@krollic He lawyered his own conscience. What a tragedy.
Howard is one of the most misunderstood characters in the BCS universe. God save him from Kim in season 6
Hopefully whatever she does is the end of her too
Kim and Jimmy going too far against Howard will be their downfall, no way it doesn’t backfire.
@@lunch77 well this is the Breaking Bad/BCS universe….. the main protagonists/dirt bags usually win
@@carson11100 Yeah, there definitely weren’t any consequences for Walt or Jesse continually pushing their criminality…..
@@lunch77 To be fair, it looks as though Jim is seeing Kim taking things too far. He's all for pranking Howard, but not sabotaging his career like Kim seemingly wants to do.
This is the cruellest thing Jimmy has done. He KNOWS what happened is his fault. He either feels guilty about it or he doesn't care at all and just lets Howard embody all this guilt and pain, and then proceeds to revel in it. It's sickening.
I think this was Jimmy's conflicted nature at it's core. Jimmy seemed actually hesitant and a little shocked when Howard mentioned the insurance thing as being a catalyst; I think this scene embodies Slippin' Jimmy taking over, seeing an easy and unexpected out in terms of handing off the guilt to Howard whether he deserved it or not. This was a way to push the real Jimmy down deep inside and just allowing Howard to be the villain even if at this point he knew that wasn't true.
no he isn’t, Howard always hated Jimmy and always wanted to put him down and Chuck went along with it
@@johnnyboy3410 my dude no offence but how'd you get this far not understanding these basic tenants if the characters jesus
Thats the point of BB and BCS you're not looking through the eyes of a hero you're looking through the eyes of the villian
Chuck saw right through Jimmy's facade all along. He had every reason to never trust Jimmy and always despise him.
“We had a disagreement”
Yeah like you suggested a teaching job, and Chuck immediately tried to sue you for 8 million dollars thus destroying your father’s legacy and putting hundreds of people out of work.
“Suggested” one thing about suggestions is you could say no. Chuck couldn’t say no. Howard unofficially fired chuck, and then chuck threatened to sue. Howard was definitely in the wrong there.
@@Gabe791 actually, Howard wasn't. Chuck was an obvious liability. In banking, banks knew about 5 years before Michael Burry's assessment of CDO market before the first CDS deal was made. CHuck was a liability but he wasn't just risky enough. Now that it's blown out fo proportion, Chuck should've seen his end.
Keep defending the sociopathic monster who justifies himself with "THE RIGHT WAY TO LOVE MY BLOOD"
well, that's a disagreement
@@Gabe791 Is this a joke? Keeping Chuck would have meant that the malpractice insurance premiums would have *DOUBLED for EVERY single lawyer in the entire firm!*
Chuck had to go no matter what. Chuck should have swallowed his pride, and simply retired.
Yeah...sure..."suggested" 🤔
Jimmy turning into Saul has always been about suppressing guilt, grief and trauma. This is the first and most key moment of emotional suppressing. You can see early in the episode that he is grieving for Chuck, but the moment he realises he was substantially responsible for the circumstances, his demeanour shifts completely. It would be too much to handle the guilt, so he just chooses not to and suppresses. This isn't the moment that Saul was born, but it's definitely the moment that any kindness or compassion that Jimmy once had (for anyone but Kim) died for good.
This is the moment your mom stopped cooking dinner.
Jimmy did not die for good
Jimmy says that's his cross to bear...
Meanwhile the entire insurance issue was caused intentionally, by Jimmy.
WOW.
That's the poin. Jimmy is a semi-sociopath
@@lucasdamotta2931 Stop using words you don't understand. Jimmy is not a psychopath by any means, neither is Kim. They are both fully capable of being empathetic and displayed it several times throughout the series.
Just say they are bad selfish people and leave it at that.
@@peacefanatic3590 did you realize psycopaths and sociopaths are not exactly the same thing, right?
@@peacefanatic3590 least delusional bcs fan
@@peacefanatic3590 learn 2 read thx
Jimmy's whistling reminds me of Walter whistling right after saying he was sad about Drew Sharp's death.
well i guess now Jimmy and Kim have their own cross to bear...
howard dies in this exact same spot too
Yeah, that doesn't mean much to sociopaths.
Chuck may have been right but he was lacking in compassion. The times he did show compassion, it was revealed, were mostly feigned. You got the feeling that even though Jimmy is a very flawed character, he's capable of feeling compassion and empathy, even if it's usually delayed.
brothers usually are not very compassionate towards each other. in fact there feeling are usually the opposite. the number of falling outs among brothers is a lot more than the number of close bonds.
They were both right about each other. That is their essential tragedy.
Chuck not telling Jimmy about their mother's last words definitely showed that his jealousy was greater than any compassion he may have had.
@@whyohwhy9679 yeah this one shows his really nasty side
@@whyohwhy9679 I thought that last moment was a good illustration why Chuck finds things unfair as well; whereas he was willing to sit there, hungry and grumpy, to make sure there was no chance their mother would die alone, Jimmy took a shortcut and just went for food when he was hungry. So when she actually has her last waking, dying moment, Chuck actually put in the work to be there. So it feels completely unfair that even in her last dying moment, she wanted to talk to jimmy and not him.
Jimmy is straight up relieved to know someone else feels guilty for Chuck, so he feels like he doesn't have to anymore.
After watching S06E07: Well I guess, Jimmy, that's your cross to bear.
IMO Show jumped the shark on that one. They might as well had howard hit by a bus. Wrong place at wrong time, the character should have grown old with his crosses and successes.
Re-watching this scene, you can see Jim was obviously interested in the bit about HHM's insurance perhaps initially feeling guilty over his role (because he was the one that pointed their insurance coverage in Chuck's direction ie. Jim "accidently" let slip Chuck's testimony at the bar), but when Howard revealed that he was the one that forced Chuck out as a result, Jim used that as his way out (ie. his loophole to get around his role for the whole insurance situation), and this is why he started doing all those pranks to Howard, a way of getting back at him, as Jimmy saw it (his distortion of it anyways).
The next step of denial is projection. That's exactly what Jimmy did here.
Re-watching it too in preparation for Season 6.
This is totally the case.
It would make sense something in Jimmy's mind to immediately pump the breaks from feeling the immediate guilt of knowing that you had a hand in your own brothers death. Like you pointed out - he used Howard's "confession" as a get out of jail card to remove himself from that equation. Self protection. Anything to spare ourselves from the overbearing guilt.
He lawyered his own conscience. Epic mental gymnastics.
Huh, except it's Kim's idea bro.
@@explosivx43 You gotta stop saying bro, bro.
Rip Howard Hamlin. You truly were an amazing, stand up character who tried his best to better himself and right his wrongs. Namast3 👔
thanks for the spoiler
@@norastark8874 why would you watch bcs clips while in the middle of the final chapters
Namaste is a greeting upon arrival
Namaskaar (or just an adieu) would do
Show jumped the shark on that one. They might as well had howard hit by a bus. Wrong place at wrong time, the character should have grown old with his crosses and successes.
S6E7: Well Jimmy I guess that’s your cross to bear.
This scene is interesting to contrast with the next time Howard goes to their apartment.
1:30 This is the moment Jimmy realized that he sent Chuck on a trip to Belize.
But then Howard declared himself the travel agent.
Which is the moment Jimmy got thirsty.
HOWARD! NO! STOP! DON'T EVER GO BACK THERE PLEASE! I BEG YOU! NO!
WHY
Despite his demeanor, Howard genuinely wanted to help. He never wanted any of this and to see that he thought this is the worst thing he ever experienced is heartbreaking.
Since Jimmy got all the malpractice insurance premium stuff going, this just reminded me of how toxic his and Chuck’s relationship was, that he let Howard bear the brunt of the burden of guilt.
This scene was never resolved or actualized. Howard dies in the very same room.
Still not Howard's worst visit to the apartment.
💀💀💀
Just the worst visit SO FAR ;-)
Howard really is an interesting character. There’s times like this when I feel bad for him, because here he was really trying to make Jimmy feel better. Then I think about how he was a scumbag to Kim earlier on in the show, and he was kind of spineless and just operating as Chuck’s lapdog to get to Jimmy. But he has shown signs of being a good person down the stretch, I’m worried for what’s gonna happen to him in season 6.
We will never know what would have happened if Kim stayed at HHM, but Howard probably thought he's doing Kim favor with the cold treatment, sort of with a "tough love". Either pushing her out of the company or forcing her to prove herself. Sure, she acquired Mesa Verde, but redemption doesn't happen in a matter of days, not after a major fuck up. I'd be willing to bet she'd eventually be given her old job back if she showed humility and way more patience.
It's also what makes him an interesting character. It's realistic that He's conflicted in so many situations
@@mac1991seth nah she did the right thing by leaving you don’t stay in that type of work environment
Chuck had a hold on him because he knew his father and mentored him into becoming who he is. Those ties go deep, that’s the reason he was under Chuck’s control the whole time.
@@mac1991seth Going by how she manipulated Kevin in collusion with Jimmy at Mesa Verde ( for the location change ) and treated Her next employer ( Rich ) for basically suggesting what was essentially true , her getting out of HHM was good for the firm. She's a manipulating,colluding, driven, morally perverse person that would be toxic to any firm even if she's extremely committed and hard working . Someone like her is bound to have a lot of what she does come back to bite it's just not worth it for any company.
Howard really tried to be a bro to both Jimmy and Chuck, he dealt with so much of their sibling drama that he was practically family, but neither of them were ever grateful to him. He embodied excellence and fortitude but they both constantly tore Howard down when they were hurting each other.
R.I.P. Howard. I was sad to see him go. 😢😢😢
Well nice spoiler
@@ezio5211 try not reading CZcams comments for a show you haven’t watched
Patrick Fabian gave a magnificent performance in this scene. Well done!
Never set foot in this house again Howard
Howard seems like a good person. Hope nothing bad happens to him.
RiP Howard ! You were so professional and did not deserve this.
I swear 2:37 is the best reaction shot I’ve ever seen in any media.
wow, there's a lot in that scene and Jimmy smiling through that aquarium reveals so much. He planted the insurance problem and shows his content that this bomb went off like he never would have thought and on top his main rival takes the guilt.
Jimmy never intended to kill chuck, he’s obviously not actually happy in this scene. He is pretending to be ok because he can’t accept the fact that he indirectly killed his brother and that is tormenting him.
Wow this comment as well the first reply really is twisting my mind. Makes me want to see the last season even more for the ultimate answer.
When you now realize that Howard never learned that Jimmy was behind the insurance debacle that lead to Chuck’s death
I've always felt this was the scene where Jimmy has approached the final step into becoming Saul Goodman.
Yep. And of course was official when he walks away from the camera for the last scene of previous season.
No disrespect to you at all my friend, because so many people post the same thing, but this Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul “this is the moment when” meme is getting old. Jimmy IS Saul. Walter White IS Heisenberg. It’s called an alias. They may have changed as people a bit over the course of each series, but everyone reads too much into the whole alter ego/alias thing.
Again, no disrespect intended towards you. I just wish people would reconsider how they view this whole alter ego thing.
i guess you could say
this was the moment that jimmy turn into saul goodman
@@UkeleleStoner1992 you don't think people perhaps choose an alias to mark a change in their character and worldview? WW certainly wasn't Heisenberg prior to the start of Breaking Bad.
The is a big step, but I think the final step is gonna be when he loses Kim.
This scene always breaks my heart. You can see Howard can’t stand the overwhelming guilt, he mourns Chuck but still cares about Jimmy. He deserved almost nothing he went through during season 6
The character development and acting in this series is the best I have ever seen.
It's crazy to think that Howard eventually dies in that room.
Poor Howard
RIP Howard 😭😭😭
I do feel sorry for Howard and he 100% made the right decision in trying to force Chuck out, which he should've done far sooner. But I just totally get Jimmy. You're so utterly disgusted, so utterly DONE with a family member, it's basically impossible to feel anything about them anymore. It just takes too much out of you.
The real reason of the actions of jimmy was that in reality, it was not Howard’s fault. It was jimmy. He literally told insurance company what happened that day. And let them know about chucks mental health. He did it on purpose, willingly.
When he hears that was the sole reason Howard kicking his brother out, he knew he caused his brothers end. He was the real reason. But he passed the ball to Howard and changed the topic in his head to not think about it.
Chuck worked extremely hard for that response, Jimmy used to worship the ground his brother walked.
Okay Mrs dad didn't let me make an only fans
@@borris3768 Nah. I wouldn't even ask, because then I'd just be a magnet for creeps like you.
It's great you've never experienced true family dysfunction, but maybe if you move out of your mommy's basement someday, you'll learn some hard realities.
@@ozgesekerci8815It was also Chuck's fault as well since he was warned not to take Jimmy to court plus even if Jimmy didn't go to the insurance they still would've found out about Chuck's medical condition and lashing out in court.
Howard is probably the most regular guy in this show
The characters in this show are so real. Wow.
This is the exact moment where Jimmy becomes Saul Goodman
I love the richness of all these clips, the legal and underworld of both shows woven together.
The fact that Jimmy indirectly caused his brother's suicide.
This is the moment when HHM became H.
2:50 that little smile..
Howard is just straight up a good guy
That whistle is the truth Howard, you are not a Heisenberg
The whistle remembered me of Heisenberg, after the killing of the kid.
Poor howard thinks he is the reason chuck died. Chucks illness is because of Jimmy. Whenever he gets near chuck, chuck gets sick. Chuck was getting better till jimmy showed up in his house and made chuck remember the anger, the jealousy he feels for Jimmy. I think he just developed this illness to stop thinking about jimmy. And (died) when he realised the cause of his illness. He can’t handle jimmy being better than him while doing what Chuck hates. Thats why the we saw their mom saying “jimmy” as last word and chuck not speaking about it. Thats my thought. Plus the movie even showed us, when jimmy worked hard in legal way (shredded papers)
Chuck stopped being sick and walked out of the house without even noticing.
This show just does an excellent job at making you feel for the characters, especially now Howard.... dude was genuinely hurt in this and Jimmy was more happy that he was hurt then he was upset over his own brothers death
Jimmy's reaction is exactly what Chuck deserves.
Why?
what?
Definitely not Howard though, even just a half hearted “it’s not your fault” would’ve helped the guy out a bit.
Chuck was flawed, but he was 100% right about Jimmy. Everyone always acting like Jimmy woulda turned a new leaf if Chuck supported him. He didnt know about how Chuck really felt until the end and he was still doing bad stuff. As far as Jimmy knew, Chuck cared about him and he was still acting like Slippin' Jimmy. When Jimmy was hired by that other firm, thats what Chuck wanted to avoid. Chuck's unlikable but he was right about Saul.
@@pollo20x6 Dude. You are missing the point here. It doesnt matter if Jimmy was sleezy or not. He was Chuck's brother. And he chose to lie to him about their dying mother asking for him. In my book that's so much worse than whatever Jimmy did, ever. And what Chuck did was always out of spite and malice even though he pretended to be righteous and that he was trying to "straighten" Jimmy. On the other hand Jimmy was helping Chuck and sincerely cared for him up until nearly the end. So Chuck realy got what he deserved. And Jimmy woul be crushed if he blaimed himself for it so he "chose" denial and putting the blame on Howard cause it was too much for him to bare. Cause Jimmy still cared for Chuck as a brother even if he was mad at him. Chuck would never care if Jimmy died, he always thought of him as a burden and as someone that stole his parents' love from him.
RIP Howard Hamlin.
Jimmy lost sympathy at this point and this is very heartbreaking for howard after all, he did what he thinks the best way to do. He didnt deserve a brutal end. I guess howard's death will be jimmy's cross to bear
Really going out on a limb to spoil it for people who aren’t up to speed. I guess that’s your cross to bear.
No, it's Kim's.
Just watched this scene, entered CZcams and got spoilers 🤦🏿.
Anyways, I agree with you about Jimmy. He's not a good person in any shape or form and this scene proves it.
Through all the theories and speculation it really just comes down to Jimmy being extremely confused on what he should feel about Chuck. Everyone assumes he cares about his death but how can you assume that after Chuck said “I never really cared about you”. Chuck was a legitimately horrible person
Chuck saved Jimmy from prison. He gave him a job. Chuck is in the right. Hes slipping jimmy
@@exandious867 Honestly both are bad people, Chuck might be a slightly better person tho.
Wouldn’t be Howard’s worst experience in Jimmy and Kim’s apartment
Powerful performance from everyone. Great scene.
It's so incredible that Jimmy's actor could display anguish through happiness.
That's AAA
can't wait for season 6!
"Well i guess thats your cross to bear"
Damn jimmy ! Thats cold !
So fascinating the dynamic Howard has with Jimmy and Kim. There's this unspoken bond despite the two often resenting him at times. Jimmy and Kim had been through so much either with Howard or against Howard to the point that their feelings they all had for each other changed so much too-and to the point that by the end when all understood each other the best they could and had all that animosity reach its boiling point, Jimmy and Kim still didn't want to see him die and Howard still wanted to help them while they were in danger.
It hurts even more when you understand that Jimmy is the reason of the HHM's problems with the insurance company.
The fact that Jimmy still blamed Howard for Chucks death is really truly souless.
"I think Chuck killed himself because he didn't have enough tickets."
Such a great show.
Everyone hated Skyler, but she was right at start.
Everyone hated Chuck, but he was right at start too.
Bravo Peter.
How chuck was righ? He is the reason jimmy became Saul, always stoping his attempts to do better because of jealousy
@@yosoyspider9420 chuck always knew jimmy was slipping jimmy and couldnt change
@@AltShiftSpam Jimmy was changing though, I hate the whole "Chuck was right at the start" take cause he wasn't. Jimmy in season one was trying his hardest to simply be someone to be proud of. He was changing, had Jimmy been given the opportunity to actually rise in the system then Saul wouldn't have happened. Chuck wasn't right because he knew Jimmy, Chuck was "right" because he created Saul into a self fulfilling prophecy. He's jealous of Jimmy and believes that he's better then Jimmy, that Jimmy doesn't deserve what he has and the love he gets because he can talk good compared to him who is suffering even though he is a genius and practically a god amongst lawyers. Chucks jealousy and superiority complex is what causes him to want Jimmy to not be a lawyer which only forces Jimmy to be backed into a corner where he has to become Slipping Jimmy. Saul Goodman wasn't a ticking time bomb always meant to happen. Jimmy proves people can change, he took those negative qualities that made him slipping jimmy and used them to actually do good look at the sandy piper case. That case only became possible because of Jimmy's confidence. He was changing, he was trying to become a lawyer his brother could be proud of. But it was Chucks self concided jealousy of Jimmy that lead to the downfall of everyone in the show. Chuck created Saul which is the opposite of what Chuck was preaching. Chuck wasn't right so he made it right by ruining his brother and the people around him. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk.
Okay so I typed this before watching season 6 as it wasn't on Netflix yet. I admit I'm actually kinda wrong here. Chuck didn't refuse jimmy the right to change. It was a fault on both side as seen in the time machine. Chuck was jealous of jimmy yes but he was willing to throw it away with a genuine heart to heart of which Jimmy always choose to avoid as "HE" believed he wasn't worthy of change. This led chuck to keep his jealousy and in turn become the chuck we see in the show. Ultimately jimmy was willing to change but his shame and unwillingness to admit he wanted to change to chuck is what ultimately led to the self filling prophecy. Thanks for listening to my news Ted talk.
When Howard turns out to be your favorite character of the show. I really didn't expect that but it goes to show how great the writing is.
Jimmy feeding the fish reminded me of Tony Soprano feeding the ducks in his pool. Something about how "criminals" have big hearts towards animals, when their affection towards humans is lacking. It fits here so im sure its the same kinda deal. They are the same kind of Anti-Hero
i hate how i fell asleep at the last few minutes of the episode because i was so tired and i just missed this scene completley
watching this after Season 6. Howard didn't deserve his fate.
dammit, I just *know* I'm gonna end up binge-watching all the seasons again before the finale.
well to those who don't know, Jimmy is the one who made sure the insurance company knows about Chuck's condition.
Good for him
Howard is in for a rough ride in season 6 unfortunately.
You don't say
The reason Jimmy reacts in such a strange way is that he personally feels guilty for causing the insurance situation which ultimately led to Chuck's death. He's acknowledging that it's his *own* cross to bear, as well. He can't go into details on the difficult subject matter so he changed the subject to being light-hearted and making coffee as a diversion.
Howard is completely surrounded by soulless people with no empathy whatsoever. What Lalo did to him may have been mercy.
Facts lol
Might be but imagine taking all blows the worst day of your life can offer and end damaged but not broken and then realize you are going to be killed within the next 10 seconds all those problems seem so small now and you just want to live but alas that's not going to happen, that was a very sad way to go.
Its kind of sad in a way. Clifford Main might have been the only good friend he had left. Chuck, Jimmy, Kim, hell even his wife. He was the real sad clown of this show. Always smiling.
In some aspects I'm enjoying this show more than breaking bad. It's more slow paced but the acting and the story line are amazing
Rip Howard.
This show is one big tragedy after another Jimmy was so traumatized it amazing he still had his mind after it all
Howie was too pure for this world! 😭
it was Jimmy's doing all along. he sabotaged Chuck with his insurance company and forced Howard's hand
I can't finish this video, I felt 💔 for Howard 😢
Best show EVER!!!
[spoiler] And now that howard's dead, it's jimmy's cross to bear
Howard was a good guy
1:39 that face saying; "So i did not care to him" , hearthbreaking.
Howard was a good guy hanging out with bad people.