Almost Adopted: The H&K XM-8 Family

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    Today we are in H&K's Grey Room in Virginia, taking a look at the XM-8 program. The rifle evolved form the kinetic energy carbine portion of the doomed XM29/OICW program, and eventually became the G36 rifle. In between those two, however, it was the XM-8, and it came close to adoption by the US military.The XM-8 was designed to be a very modular system, with a variety of interchangeable stocks, handguards, optics and accessories. We will take a look at all of these different elements, as well as the disassembly and mechanical function of the design.

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  • @luthahvelken4653
    @luthahvelken4653 Před 4 lety +6607

    Shame on HK for not paying the proper bribes to get this accepted.

    • @blamalam7257
      @blamalam7257 Před 4 lety +452

      Same thing happened to Level 4 Dragon Skin, they were a small Company who built a better Cheaper Armor system then the Military Procurement and Logistics division, banned it for "basic Flaws" , before they officially started Testing it . The Testers who were civilian and Lower Military had their superiors order them out of the testing areas while they " conducted Testing" then it was given a fail. Since it wasn't a big multi million or billion dollar defense company with a high salaried board to have positions for Retired DOD and Army Logistics personnel the product was scrapped and the tiny company was sued with false allegations and lawsuits that they didn't have the funds to fight so they went bankrupt. Moral of the Story from the Xm8 and Dragon Skin, is don't try and do what the military industrial complex does ,with a superior product, unless you can afford to bribe them in some way.

    • @Suzuki750Rizla
      @Suzuki750Rizla Před 4 lety +332

      @@blamalam7257 No it failed because it not as good as what people seem to think.
      1. It weighs over 10 pounds more that the IOTV.
      2. After being subjected to heat then dropped most of the scales fell to the bottom of the vest.
      3. At certain angles it couldn't stop rifle rounds.
      4. At certain angles shrapnel also couldn't be stopped.
      5. In the motor oil test the vest was rendered completely unless.
      (these are all test the other vests passed)
      The NBC and Future Weapon tests that everyone likes to point to as evidence the Dragon Skin is the best was not conducted to battlefield requirements. They were controlled tests put on by Pinnacle Armor.

    • @casedistorted
      @casedistorted Před 4 lety +82

      Suzuki750Rizla Maybe that’s just what they WANTED you to think..

    • @giostisskylas
      @giostisskylas Před 4 lety +13

      @@Suzuki750Rizla Rizla blue GSX-R 750 rulez! :))
      Guns and supersport motorcycles... two topics that go very well together.

    • @duck636
      @duck636 Před 4 lety +5

      Those bastards!

  • @PeterSchmuttermaier
    @PeterSchmuttermaier Před 4 lety +8557

    US Military, every couple of years: "We really need to modernize our arsenal. Let's tell everybody our high standards and see what they come up with."
    World's top weapons manufacturers: "We invested gazillions into the development of this new weapon system which meets all your demands and even superceeds some of them. What do you say?"
    US Military: "Yeah, you know, we decided to just stick with what we have, thanks."

    • @bruensal7182
      @bruensal7182 Před 4 lety +1183

      US Ordnance- Replacing the M4/M16 since 1980

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 Před 4 lety +340

      Peter Schmuttermaier no new rifle is lighter, cheaper to buy, more modular and as accurate. The other day at range I rented A Tavor, FN scar and AUG all were nothing special, $2000-$3000 and felt chubby, heavier, didn’t shoot as tight groups etc. no reason to switch, all the rifles I mentioned above also did way worse than the AR15s in the inrangeTV mud, sand and dirt tests.

    • @bruensal7182
      @bruensal7182 Před 4 lety +287

      @@charlieb308 the scar l would today actually be the marine standard rifle if it wasnt that enormously expensive

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 Před 4 lety +140

      TRUEnsal FN Scar not bad, I didn’t like it that much when I fired one the other day. Seemed like holding a chubby girl. I’ve had such great luck with my Colt AR15s no need to switch now. I actually tried for years to find a replacement for my ARs, I bought a $2000 SIG 556 rifle and it was worst experience of my life, it actually made me depressed, had to send it back 4 times to SIG in 1 year, they treated me like garbage. They said “well maybe you’re getting 12” groups at 50 yards because you can’t shoot or not using good enough ammo”, turns out barrel bad bad, they replaced that and the broken parts, bolt carrier wear issue never went away. I love a good old AR15 basic and my AK74 Russian and my AK47 Norinco preban. No more trying out new rifles that are $2000-3000.

    • @bruensal7182
      @bruensal7182 Před 4 lety +241

      @@charlieb308 still, the scar had better tests results than the m4 m16. İf it wasnt for the price marines were axtually using it

  • @savage7882
    @savage7882 Před 4 lety +5781

    Manufacturers: This is your standard rifle
    Ordinance: Yes
    Manufacturers: And you want to replace it
    Ordinance: Yup
    Manufacturers:
    So if i make you a new one thats better and meets all the requirements you'll use it right?
    Ordinance: That makes sense to me
    Manufacturers:
    Okay here it is
    Ordinance: I dont want it

    • @JelloThatsMellow
      @JelloThatsMellow Před 4 lety +78

      You know nothing Jon Snow...

    • @dmitrizorkin3851
      @dmitrizorkin3851 Před 3 lety +26

      Maybe becouse its not so much better?

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait Před 3 lety +133

      @Eredin, King of the Wild Hunt Ah dun wunt it. Ah nevah have. She's muh M-16.

    • @BDNeon
      @BDNeon Před 3 lety +70

      "What's even in these boxes anyway?!" "My rifles."

    • @ethanschuster4796
      @ethanschuster4796 Před 3 lety +34

      Spongebob reference lol

  • @fatford4209
    @fatford4209 Před 3 lety +3492

    There’s an alternative dimension where this is the standard issue US service rifle and I want to live there

    • @b.btheheartpainkiller
      @b.btheheartpainkiller Před 3 lety +246

      Remember metal gear solid 4?

    • @TheEnderBand
      @TheEnderBand Před 3 lety +170

      The rifles and guns in the first Mass Effect look like the descendants of these

    • @davelowesky8054
      @davelowesky8054 Před 3 lety +69

      It’s hard to justify the us military to buy a German made weapon over a USA made weapon and issue it across the board as the standard issue rifle

    • @duncansmith3659
      @duncansmith3659 Před 3 lety +33

      @@b.btheheartpainkiller rat patrols signature weapon

    • @enjin12345
      @enjin12345 Před 3 lety +150

      @@davelowesky8054 the marines are trying to push to the hk416 also my service rifle in the army was an FN not a colt so it's not uncommon for the us to use foreign weapons

  • @raygun3018
    @raygun3018 Před 5 lety +9949

    I feel like Ian has broke into the secret vault of H&K and is just fiddling around with all the guns and making as many videos before he is found by the staff

    • @Xaevryn
      @Xaevryn Před 5 lety +897

      "Damnit Ian! How do you keep getting in here?! Get out!" *spritzes with water bottle*

    • @d.f.9140
      @d.f.9140 Před 5 lety +394

      it's the whole opposite.. we put brass in varios calibers on the ground like a trail and he follows to all the unviewed guns.
      It's like Hänsel und Gretel or Schnipseljagd for gunnerds

    • @mikereuben6913
      @mikereuben6913 Před 5 lety +204

      Pretty sure he's not wearing any pants in that vault... And I don't blame him one bit. Lol.

    • @darthtrump4428
      @darthtrump4428 Před 5 lety +23

      @@mikereuben6913
      wat?

    • @NorHeadHunter
      @NorHeadHunter Před 5 lety +50

      If that was the case, he would have released a G-11 video.

  • @den2k885
    @den2k885 Před 5 lety +5395

    "They are not necessarily weapons experts... the are just people like you and I" - sayeth Gun Jesus, a weapon expert.

    • @Kr-nv5fo
      @Kr-nv5fo Před 5 lety +393

      For even the Son of Gun did not come to be served, but to serve

    • @jeremyluteran5242
      @jeremyluteran5242 Před 5 lety +13

      den2k88 lol I thought the same thing

    • @bandccoresohio
      @bandccoresohio Před 5 lety +44

      What more does one need knowledge wise to be a weapons expert i believe Ian is pretty fuckin qualified in that aspect bud

    • @Vormulac1
      @Vormulac1 Před 5 lety +20

      I think you mean '*The* weapon expert.' :D

    • @halo3odst
      @halo3odst Před 5 lety +9

      How many guns has ian designed?

  • @kedarraman6690
    @kedarraman6690 Před 3 lety +310

    I feel like Ian just materialises into Rock Island auction and the h&k hq with his Camera equipment and fresh muffins for everyone and no one even bats an eye and the new guys think he's just one of those cryptid employees

  • @chimp_gaming.
    @chimp_gaming. Před 4 lety +234

    "almost adopted" is also coincidentally my nickname.

  • @420capricess
    @420capricess Před 5 lety +5435

    Requiring new weapons to look more Starship Troopers should be a standing order, that person deserves a medal

    • @Stonemask5
      @Stonemask5 Před 5 lety +159

      The irony award

    • @Sylaces
      @Sylaces Před 5 lety +345

      he did his part

    • @shotforshot5983
      @shotforshot5983 Před 5 lety +42

      Only if they're the enemy. Function before form

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 Před 5 lety +193

      Service GUARANTEES Citizenship!!

    • @essex3777
      @essex3777 Před 5 lety +72

      The military is trying to get the Powered Armor from the books, just wait until the tact. oxygen nukes.

  • @x-ray-oh3134
    @x-ray-oh3134 Před 4 lety +3695

    HK: son
    XM-8: yes dad?
    HK: there is something I should tell you
    XM-8: what is it dad?
    HK: You're not adopted
    XM-8: *cries*

  • @jeremythomas3064
    @jeremythomas3064 Před 2 lety +79

    I remember when I was a teenager and we all thought once we got our time over at the sandbox we'd be using heads up display equipped helmets, OICW's or M8's, have individual comms and computers, and handheld drones. Man, we got about a third of the way there.

    • @divinehatred6021
      @divinehatred6021 Před 4 měsíci

      Turns out money are not infinite even for USA, even when they wage multiple wars each decade all across the globe for power and control, huh

    • @Mike-ukr
      @Mike-ukr Před 2 měsíci

      I guess we have gotten most of this now.in 2024

  • @professionallyclueless2395
    @professionallyclueless2395 Před 3 lety +165

    I wish this would’ve taken off. Can you imagine all the attachments and semi auto versions there’d be if these became the hot thing.

    • @shishoka
      @shishoka Před 2 lety +35

      Chainsaw bayonet!
      Chainsaw bayonet!
      Chainsaw bayonet!
      Chainsaw bayonet!

    • @nescockk
      @nescockk Před 2 lety +2

      @@shishoka amazing

    • @boheyo
      @boheyo Před 2 lety +11

      male to male hardware so you can connect multiple rifles together.

    • @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
      @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry Před 2 lety

      I'm sure HK could!

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Před 2 lety

      @@boheyo like an AA turret? One butt stock on each shoulder and spider web sight in the middle?

  • @jocax188723
    @jocax188723 Před 5 lety +3182

    I get the feeling that in an alternate universe where the XM8 was picked up, we eventually went to Mars, discovered the Prothean archive and started using the Mass Effect...

  • @ben9820
    @ben9820 Před 5 lety +2751

    [desire to know more intensifies]

    • @Coituz2323
      @Coituz2323 Před 5 lety +95

      FUcking beat me to it
      I'M DOING MY PART!

    • @alexsieckmann6659
      @alexsieckmann6659 Před 5 lety +10

      Ian should do the MP5K Prototype next

    • @ben9820
      @ben9820 Před 5 lety +29

      @Gyro Remember Buenos Aires

    • @maxwellriff
      @maxwellriff Před 5 lety

      [sarcasm detected]

    • @duck636
      @duck636 Před 4 lety

      @@maxwellriff You sound like a bug sympathizer!

  • @evanrussell2172
    @evanrussell2172 Před 4 lety +71

    XM-8: the smoother twin of the badass g36

    • @JK-nj3bt
      @JK-nj3bt Před rokem +1

      xm8 looks much cooler than g36

    • @uwu_smeg
      @uwu_smeg Před rokem +1

      the telescopic stock makes me think thia is what happens after a SCAR and a G36 hit the yoinky sploinky

  • @Jireblade
    @Jireblade Před 3 lety +49

    Fell in love with this rifle when I originally read about it. So depressing not being able to acquire one.

  • @Grabbagar670
    @Grabbagar670 Před 5 lety +1353

    The Room of Kraut Space Magic.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 5 lety +70

      Es funktioniert einfach.

    • @shiveringlights377
      @shiveringlights377 Před 5 lety +10

      @@Calvin_Coolage ausser in Fallout 76 lul

    • @trashaimgamer7822
      @trashaimgamer7822 Před 5 lety +7

      That's racist. Please refer to me as Bacon.

    • @jillvalentinefan77
      @jillvalentinefan77 Před 5 lety +8

      I need a magic room full of quality guns.

    • @zacht9447
      @zacht9447 Před 5 lety +1

      I mean They aren't really magic it's basically just taking an american design and making it all polymer

  • @cargo_vroom9729
    @cargo_vroom9729 Před 5 lety +528

    "We want it to look more Starship Troopers"
    *nervous laughter*

  • @vanillabeans32087
    @vanillabeans32087 Před 2 lety +48

    I'm not a gun enthusiast myself, but I keep coming back because I really appreciate Ian's mechanical breakdowns, and the interesting history behind a lot of these firearms. Nice work Ian!

    • @Gato303co
      @Gato303co Před 7 měsíci

      Same

    • @GatCat
      @GatCat Před 4 měsíci

      So are you a firearm enthusiast now? I sure hope so

  • @AgtShadowWalker
    @AgtShadowWalker Před 2 lety +24

    The XM8 was my favorite weapon design, and this video just made it so much cooler. I never knew how interchangeable the entire system was, and now I want a full airsoft loadout based entirely around the XM8.

  • @spearhunked1369
    @spearhunked1369 Před 5 lety +884

    I’m really loving these videos in “the grey room.”

    • @anD-vf7ld
      @anD-vf7ld Před 5 lety +3

      Are they using the same hook/clip-system Ian built a wall with some time ago - anyone know? Defly reminds me of it...

    • @ngilbert100
      @ngilbert100 Před 5 lety +9

      Yeah keep this grey room stuff coming.

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 Před 5 lety +42

      I always assumed you needed to be a H&K employee to get into the Grey Room. I guess being Gun Jesus works too.

    • @vector6977
      @vector6977 Před 5 lety +14

      I just want to smell the room.

    • @M0torsagmannen
      @M0torsagmannen Před 5 lety

      @@anD-vf7ld hard to tell with the grey felt covering, but the one Ian have was fairly new when he installed it, so unless the grey room got built recently i doubt it.

  • @valrabellkeys9867
    @valrabellkeys9867 Před 5 lety +491

    Ian has hit a true gold mine.

    • @TheLoxxxton
      @TheLoxxxton Před 5 lety +2

      He seems to dig up that gold for sure

    • @Guy_GuyGuy
      @Guy_GuyGuy Před 5 lety +3

      Wish I could get this lucky on my fishing trips.

  • @acdclexu6296
    @acdclexu6296 Před rokem +16

    i always loved the look of the xm8 such a futuristic g36

  • @bad74maverick1
    @bad74maverick1 Před rokem +17

    Don't worry, they will be adopted eventually in the future. The long barreled version with the scope is seen at the end of Starship Troopers.

  • @MazterHuntR
    @MazterHuntR Před 5 lety +338

    Ohhh memories of Bad Company. Good times.

    • @Lofi.z34
      @Lofi.z34 Před 5 lety +5

      Yep the XM8 LMG was my go-to gun

    • @themawsjawz_9491
      @themawsjawz_9491 Před 5 lety +9

      Ghost Recon 2 anyone?

    • @HurricaneGaming509
      @HurricaneGaming509 Před 5 lety +12

      Bad Company 2 lol

    • @miketython6554
      @miketython6554 Před 5 lety +3

      TheMawsJawz TM Best online multiplayer... they don’t make em like that anymore

    • @SirBigWater
      @SirBigWater Před 5 lety +2

      This was my go to gun back when R6 Vegas 1 came out. I had an 8x scope on it and used single fire. It was my long range gun

  • @ianfoley2960
    @ianfoley2960 Před 3 lety +48

    "They're not neccesarily arms experts, they're people like you and I." This coming from literal gun Jesus. Also SAME NAME SQUAD WOO

  • @AdamDeLocke
    @AdamDeLocke Před 3 lety +100

    I feel like this weapon's history can be summed up with that one scene in Fifth Element where Zorg is demonstrating the ZF-1 but instead of being impressed, the aliens were like "Nah, we'll keep what we got."

    • @VeritasOmniaVincit176
      @VeritasOmniaVincit176 Před rokem +4

      Wait, didn’t the aliens applaud the demonstration and kept half of the guns (even if they didn’t deliver their part of the bargain) after threatening Zorg?

  • @mathiasbartl9393
    @mathiasbartl9393 Před 5 lety +423

    "I sell space guns and space gun accessories."

  • @OTElron
    @OTElron Před 5 lety +155

    The day you feel really old: When Gun Jesus presents the XM-8 as a forgotten weapon system.

  • @ajorsomething4935
    @ajorsomething4935 Před rokem +4

    "We want it to look more starship troopers"
    Honestly, I'm glad that someone in military procurement is looking out for aesthetics when it comes to new guns.

  • @OrtadragoonX
    @OrtadragoonX Před 2 měsíci +2

    According to every video game of the mid 2000s this was going to be the future of the US Army. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter had me convinced that when I turned 18 in 2008 I was going to be drafted to fight a war in Mexico while carrying the M8 as my rifle.

  • @Homerboy44
    @Homerboy44 Před 5 lety +2800

    H&K: Look, US, we've made a gun for you!
    US: It's great, but it sucks.
    Sci-Fi Media & Malaysia: ALLOW US TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES

    • @cxvghf93387u
      @cxvghf93387u Před 4 lety +25

      Malaysia? How?

    • @sike3000
      @sike3000 Před 4 lety +194

      @@cxvghf93387u Malaysia Navy use/used the XM8

    • @m1a1abramstank49
      @m1a1abramstank49 Před 4 lety +33

      Does not equal to good weapon when a country has it, just like late war German tanks in WW2, they had them but they had many problems

    • @randomka-52alligatorthatis34
      @randomka-52alligatorthatis34 Před 4 lety +100

      @@sike3000 More specifically PASKAL use them, there the country's equivalent of the Navy SEAL's.

    • @mimimimeow
      @mimimimeow Před 4 lety +100

      @@m1a1abramstank49 it's actually pretty good, u can fire it underwater, survives when you drive a truck over it, very reliable in mud or wet sand but prolly not for prolonged sustained fire. Basically an ideal rifle for frogmen like Malaysian PASKAL. They no longer use it nowadays i believe.. but they still have some amount of XM8 pre-production and prototype rifles from Malaysian Armed Forces and Royal Malaysian Police trials. I was quite lucky to be able to see the XM8 PDW (almost as small as MP7) with my own eyes

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 Před 5 lety +159

    Getting closer to that sweet, sweet G11 video...

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson Před 5 lety +2

      Yesssplease!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @matthayward7889
      @matthayward7889 Před 5 lety +1

      Anton Adelson I’ve been saving a beer to crack open when he does!

    • @NameNotAlreadyTaken2
      @NameNotAlreadyTaken2 Před 5 lety +2

      It has to happen eventually. Hopefully he only does it once he can look at a real one.

    • @Yukikazehalo
      @Yukikazehalo Před 5 lety +2

      @@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 there are at least 4 G11s hanging on the wall of the room he filmed this in, it shouldn't be a problem making a video of one of those...

  • @TREX_04
    @TREX_04 Před 3 lety +17

    Even though I loved the xm8 I didnt know this much about it. Like for example the simplicity of swapping parts or attachments out or even the two ways of removing the magazine! You made me appreciate it even more
    P.s. as a scout I require that bayonet this instant

  • @PKFireFawx
    @PKFireFawx Před 10 měsíci +8

    i've thought this was singlehandedly one of the coolest looking rifles ever since i saw it in MGS4. idk how anyone can say it looks ugly, it really looks so slick to me

  • @Chironex_Fleckeri
    @Chironex_Fleckeri Před 4 lety +628

    My theory about the "Starship Trooper" request is that the military is careful to maintain appeal with potential recruits. Seeing images of American soldiers with ugly rifles might be a nonstarter for a 17 year old, let's be honest.

    • @Redmenace96
      @Redmenace96 Před 4 lety +53

      Like all great truths: it makes you laugh and it makes you cry. Good one!

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega Před 3 lety +21

      The rifles are beautiful to me dammit!

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A Před 3 lety +29

      The cover of Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter ain't bad. It makes the soldier look more badass. They should've make a poster based on that.

    • @fort809
      @fort809 Před 2 lety +23

      Yeah, it’s hard to convince dumb 17 year olds to die for Israel and oil companies when the guns don’t look cool

    • @ajspice
      @ajspice Před 2 lety +8

      And here I am, a dumb vet who puts weapon effectiveness above "looking good."

  • @ReaperX7
    @ReaperX7 Před 5 lety +745

    I always liked the look of the H&K XM-8. It looks so very user friendly oriented and extremely lightweight.
    This was really a forward thinking design.

    • @karliskokorevics6902
      @karliskokorevics6902 Před 5 lety +73

      *basicially a G36 in a fish shell*

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Před 4 lety +3

      Jim's Retro-Gaming it’s like the firearms equivalent of a bmw sports car

    • @bigdaddydons6241
      @bigdaddydons6241 Před 4 lety +13

      If anything they look insanely comfortable and probably wouldn't snag on any kind of gear.

    • @missbelled6700
      @missbelled6700 Před 4 lety +32

      They look exactly like I'd expect military hardware to look, honestly. Obviously designed to be mass-produced, but highly-functional in a specific way.

    • @ifalone
      @ifalone Před 4 lety +9

      i used to love the look of it as a kid, now it looks like a bugatti. all round and ugly looking. materials look like it came out of toys r us, and the attachment system looks like it was made for 10 year olds. just my change in opinion

  • @Cruor34
    @Cruor34 Před 4 lety +6

    The modular system part is really awesome. You can see they really tried hard, the people involved in the project must have been pissed when they didn't get a contract.

  • @GingerZero
    @GingerZero Před 2 lety +4

    That accessory attachment system is the best. Really liked the cool looks of the rifle before, but now I love the practical aspects of it as well.

  • @unholyloaf
    @unholyloaf Před 5 lety +1357

    "We want it to look a little more Starship Troopers"
    [laughs in citizenship]

  • @failedrevolutionary9497
    @failedrevolutionary9497 Před 5 lety +1888

    Funny that Military Higher-ups wanted their next generation rifle to take inspiration from a movie that satirizes and criticizes war.
    Also Bad Company 2 is just the best.

    • @failedrevolutionary9497
      @failedrevolutionary9497 Před 5 lety +37

      @Switch Kick How so? I'm not arguing for either side of this debate, I'm just saying that it's kind of funny. I have absolutely nothing against the weapon itself.

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 Před 4 lety +38

      The book though really was the best.

    • @wraithwyvern528
      @wraithwyvern528 Před 3 lety +49

      Unfortunately, the movie kind of skimmed out on Heinlein's criticisms of authoritarian societies compared to the original book.

    • @tripple-a6031
      @tripple-a6031 Před 3 lety +20

      XM-8 and Bad Company 2 go hand in hand in my eyes :D

    • @4skintim962
      @4skintim962 Před 3 lety +6

      Wow this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen....
      Bf3 and bf1 were better ;)

  • @jebusglatze1285
    @jebusglatze1285 Před rokem +4

    That PCAP System is a really good Design. The whole weapon ist is really nice and even looks amazing.

  • @thelucidjoe
    @thelucidjoe Před 4 lety +29

    6:26 "Boop"
    Gun Jesus has spoketh

  • @Jievf
    @Jievf Před 5 lety +1306

    My favourite assault rifle in bad company

    • @kenansabic2901
      @kenansabic2901 Před 5 lety +32

      I preffer M416 myself but this one is pure cool.

    • @MrPixelMonster
      @MrPixelMonster Před 5 lety +85

      Only reason I clicked on this vid is cuz I recognized it from BFBC2 😂

    • @Flako92
      @Flako92 Před 5 lety +17

      This is my go to weapon on BFBC2 when I go on my nostalgia trip, of when I first got my hands on the game.

    • @Darknessblade4me
      @Darknessblade4me Před 5 lety +14

      No surprise honestly. it was the most well rounded AR in game xD

    • @JarJarBinkz68
      @JarJarBinkz68 Před 5 lety +14

      i remember finding it in the bad company 1 campaign :)

  • @chubbycatfish4573
    @chubbycatfish4573 Před 5 lety +560

    I remember when video games featured these rifles in futuristic games... that didn't quite work out.

    • @Meowystery
      @Meowystery Před 5 lety +7

      J D funny I think one of these was suppose to be in half life 2

    • @Jack72607
      @Jack72607 Před 5 lety +86

      Bad company 2 and metal gear solid 4

    • @suta-car1285
      @suta-car1285 Před 5 lety +32

      J D Bad company 2 wants a word with you

    • @chubbycatfish4573
      @chubbycatfish4573 Před 5 lety +73

      I was thinking about Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter when I posted this, btw.

    • @dawsongranger4940
      @dawsongranger4940 Před 5 lety +3

      The batman Arkham games feature these, always thought they were just silly cartoon versions of ar-15s

  • @chadbailey30
    @chadbailey30 Před 4 lety

    These are so awesome!!! I love how easy everything is interchangeable.. very cool.
    Maybe not super reliable but never the less, very very cool

  • @4boatpeople
    @4boatpeople Před 3 lety

    Thank you very much for documenting! On CZcams there is always that some guy who explains stuff we have never heard of, breaking our horizons.

  • @phanta_rei2910
    @phanta_rei2910 Před 5 lety +617

    That G11 on the top left. Please make a video on it! 🙏

    • @Arthurzeiro
      @Arthurzeiro Před 5 lety +237

      It's going to be released this Christmas, it's gun Jesus birthday but It will be us getting the gift.

    • @Stywel
      @Stywel Před 5 lety +43

      I'm pretty sure he's purposefully teasing us :D

    • @MachineGunManUFMS
      @MachineGunManUFMS Před 5 lety +9

      It's coming! My inner Syphon Filter 2 playing kid will love it so much!!

    • @wewd
      @wewd Před 5 lety +4

      He's gonna do it. 😎

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx Před 5 lety +14

      He said he would, patience.

  • @Kardia_of_Rhodes
    @Kardia_of_Rhodes Před 4 lety +2489

    At first glance, I said to myself, "This thing looks like a toy no wonder they didn't adopt it.".
    But after giving it some thought, I realized that by making it look and function like a toy you essentially make it "idiot proof".
    And then I remembered that this is a European Gun Manufacturer trying to pitch a product to the US Military.
    It all made sense from that point on.

    • @chrinii
      @chrinii Před 4 lety +64

      @@onetrucksizedsalmon2962 We already have the FN F2000 for that. Not sure about the ammo counter though.

    • @SirDankington
      @SirDankington Před 4 lety +206

      Funnily enough, the gun looking and feeling like a toy was one of the complaints that the M-16 received when it was introduced into service

    • @joshuachristensen9731
      @joshuachristensen9731 Před 4 lety +38

      @@chrinii you can actually get aftermarket ammo counters for both real guns and their airsoft versions, that mount to picatinny rails. its pretty cool, and somewhat useful depending on situation

    • @FitFatFern
      @FitFatFern Před 4 lety +27

      I just love how easily interchangeable everything is. I can go from a red dot to an RCO in mere seconds.

    • @WalrusWinking
      @WalrusWinking Před 3 lety +8

      @@chrinii The FN 2000 is the big gay

  • @afterforever21
    @afterforever21 Před 2 lety

    This was very informative and a good watch. I'm looking forward to watching more of your vids.

  • @DaysofKnight
    @DaysofKnight Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love the XM-8, specifically the Carbine model. Just a great looking rifle

  • @friesen_m
    @friesen_m Před 5 lety +748

    "Give a man a fishgun, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man how to use the fishgun, and he'll eat for an eternity." - Gun Jesus

    • @lordemarsh6804
      @lordemarsh6804 Před 5 lety +4

      If he could eat for a day when given a fishgun doesnt that mean he knows how to use the fishgun.....?!!!!!!? Do you meant that he throws the gun at the fish before he is taught how? That makes no sense

    • @wiryantirta
      @wiryantirta Před 5 lety

      I mean if said man doesn't know how to use a fishgun, wouldn't he just use it as a bashing stick until it breaks?

    • @christopherowen1776
      @christopherowen1776 Před 5 lety

      Based and redpilled

    • @basil8420
      @basil8420 Před 4 lety

      I wanted to like but can't rune that triple 6

    • @mysss29
      @mysss29 Před 4 lety

      I'm pretty sure OP was implying the man would _eat_ the fishgun. xD

  • @harrisonbergeron1819
    @harrisonbergeron1819 Před 4 lety +176

    I feel like that optic needed a few more 'Danger' stickers!

    • @_yellow
      @_yellow Před 2 lety +15

      That's how you know it's American

    • @tite93
      @tite93 Před 2 lety +14

      Can never trust an American soldier not to point that pesky laser right in their face

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 Před 2 lety +1

    I really like the idea of that mounting system.

  • @jamiehurricane
    @jamiehurricane Před 3 lety

    so much clever engineering, love it, want one with ALL the attachments

  • @thomashayes4261
    @thomashayes4261 Před 5 lety +332

    At first I thought these were goofy, both in appearance and use. I've rethought that after watching this video and seeing how much effort was put into the design of these rifles and how much they improve on the M4/M16 platform. A shame they never made it to service.

    • @ahzekahriman5840
      @ahzekahriman5840 Před 5 lety +33

      Thomas Hayes I know, right? The first time I saw the thing I thought it looked horribly clunky and uncomfortable. I had no idea how slick the p-cap system really was until now. It's a real shame, considering how light the rifle may have been. I see it in a whole new light and would love to try one out.

    • @_Gara
      @_Gara Před 5 lety +2

      They had a tendency to melt during trials

    • @HellbirdIV
      @HellbirdIV Před 4 lety +14

      The XM8 was derived from the G36, and the US is in the process of sort of gradually maybe a little bit by bit adopting the HK416 platform, which is itself mostly a G36 dressed up like an AR-15. I think H&K figured out that the key to making the Americans finally adopt a replacement for the M16 is to make them think it's still an M16.

    • @lilith6059
      @lilith6059 Před 4 lety

      HellbirdIV if it looks like a duck but quacks like a golden goose it’s an AR-15 -The Americans

  • @mrb692
    @mrb692 Před 5 lety +184

    That grenade launcher system is slicker than the Gulf of Mexico circa 2010

  • @ChickyNuggz43
    @ChickyNuggz43 Před rokem +1

    Ever since I was a wee young lad, I always had a fascination with this weapon. Was always hoping to see it in action and put into production.

  • @justindunlap1235
    @justindunlap1235 Před 3 lety +2

    I just have to say that starship troopers had an amazing props department that mocked up those firing bullpup mini 14s with Ithaca 37s mounted underneath.

  • @Cavemanner
    @Cavemanner Před 5 lety +541

    Dude, after years of remembering these as the "future weapons" of my childhood, I now get to see the technical side of these guys and it makes me a lil angry the US military didn't adopt them. I would love to see where the modularity might have gone if they were actually field-tested and refined over the following decades.

    • @Cavemanner
      @Cavemanner Před 5 lety +77

      God, man. I remember playing the first mission of Ghost Recon 2 and you start with one of these with the grenade launcher, ooooh weeee! I literally had dreams about being a soldier and getting to customize my own XM-8. This video is giving me flashbacks, man!

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio Před 5 lety +17

      They were tested and failed.

    • @Phoenix-214
      @Phoenix-214 Před 5 lety +40

      @@Cavemanner As innovative as the platform was for its time, firearms technology has sort of moved on. The PCAP system was neat from an engineering standpoint but it being proprietary would've posed way too many problems, for one thing. For another, as far as I can tell from this video, the XM8's barrel was not hot-swappable. There are modern modular rifles which have this feature, such as the Beretta ARX-160, which I consider to be the closest thing to a production XM8 in existence, since it even looks fairly similar and builds on many of the same concepts which informed the XM8's development. It's even more modular and was actually adopted by the Italian military. Other rifles which arguably pursued the same concepts include the Masada/ACR and everything which has more recently tried to imitate and improve on it, such as the MSBS. Now, reliability and overall performance in field conditions is something which is a little more up for debate. It's possible that the XM8 works very well, even compared to these newer, more "refined" takes on the modular rifle concept. But I guess I'm trying to say that if it's any consolation, rifles rather _like_ the XM8 are a possibility in the future.

    • @AICW
      @AICW Před 5 lety +13

      At least the Malaysian Navy adopted this rifle...

    • @MEGATRYANT
      @MEGATRYANT Před 5 lety +70

      They were tested, were found to be fully compliant with the requested specs, were loved by the troops, and General Petraus from the 101st Airborne even took one with him to Iraq, it was cancelled mostly due to political issues*
      Also, the XM8 first prototype and final model had picatinny rails, it was the army that wanted to try the PCAP system on the Spiral 3 models, and even then the PCAP system had rail adapters for backwards compatibility. And apparently the XM8 had a LMG variant with quick-swap barrel based on the MG4 (based on the HK Modular Weapon System Family
      video).
      In the words of Jim Schatz: "It was that ignorance and arrogance
      that doomed the XM8 program to failure and prevented the troops from getting a new weapon system just when it was most needed."

  • @Chebva
    @Chebva Před 5 lety +804

    H&K never fails. 100% pure badass. Basically a 20 year old gun that was ahead of its time and is still ahead of current times.

    • @THEZWARRIORWAR
      @THEZWARRIORWAR Před 5 lety +29

      Chebva Romero so ahead that it was a large failure in every sense of the word

    • @TheAngrySaxon1
      @TheAngrySaxon1 Před 5 lety +167

      @@THEZWARRIORWAR Because the U.S won't move away from the M16 family, it's just too much of an undertaking given the number of troops involved. They're kidding themselves and manufacturers with these replacement programs, they don't intend to replace, not until they're forced to as per the M14.

    • @neuromancer692
      @neuromancer692 Před 5 lety +3

      Med Otaku Do you have a single fact to back that up?

    • @Reduxalicious
      @Reduxalicious Před 5 lety +8

      @@neuromancer692
      www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/this-is-what-became-of-the-armys-futuristic-m-16-replacement-rifle

    • @neuromancer692
      @neuromancer692 Před 4 lety +6

      Magni56 Thank you for the detailed answer. My only problem is that I don’t really remember who I directed my original response to.

  • @justinspiguzza5276
    @justinspiguzza5276 Před rokem +1

    You would make a great elementary teacher. Soft spoken and very detailed.

  • @matthewrossilini5808
    @matthewrossilini5808 Před 3 lety

    This is an awesome platform. Well thought through

  • @nagasako7
    @nagasako7 Před 5 lety +193

    Hey I know this gun.
    I caught this gun off the pier last year.

    • @tenhundredkills
      @tenhundredkills Před 5 lety +25

      I thought I caught one too, but it was just a FS2000 :(

    • @blackops555
      @blackops555 Před 5 lety +11

      Must have been a very tragic boating accident previously...

    • @STRAKAZulu
      @STRAKAZulu Před 5 lety +30

      The early 2000's: the era of the Tactical Tuna.

  • @thetalonking7233
    @thetalonking7233 Před 5 lety +379

    I swear, I'd give anything to have an actual, functional XM8 made by H&K. It's such a shame they were a complete flop, as I personally love the look and function of it. Even the attachments, they look so simple yet snug and efficient.

    • @Still-ill-Trill
      @Still-ill-Trill Před 5 lety +13

      look at tommybuilttactical. He makes Xm8 clones you can buy

    • @thetalonking7233
      @thetalonking7233 Před 5 lety +5

      I thought you had to provide him a SL8 first, for can you buy them from scratch? If so... Hell yes...

    • @Still-ill-Trill
      @Still-ill-Trill Před 5 lety +8

      @@thetalonking7233 last I saw he was making receivers for them. I dont live in the US so Im not 100% sure

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Před 4 lety +4

      TheTalonKing they have had plenty of exposure and use in video games, I remember one game they were used as a sniper rifle

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Před 3 lety +1

      @Tu Shan it was called black site

  • @captainslut.1650
    @captainslut.1650 Před 4 lety +1

    This is the most tacticool rifle I have ever seen. I absolutely love it.

  • @daveh777
    @daveh777 Před rokem

    Lol. That safety reminds me of the safety on the cz scorpion evo 3.
    The funky pistol grip angle and knobby bit too.

  • @brianhess1456
    @brianhess1456 Před 5 lety +553

    Service guarantees citizenship!

    • @norrusinman682
      @norrusinman682 Před 5 lety +107

      *desire to know more intensifies*

    • @Marshal_Rock
      @Marshal_Rock Před 5 lety +9

      Brian Hess want to know more?

    • @kyle857
      @kyle857 Před 5 lety +15

      @@CountArtha Shoots ISIS member. "I'm doing my part!"

    • @Juggalo10p
      @Juggalo10p Před 5 lety +9

      RICOS ROUGHNECKS

    • @fan9775
      @fan9775 Před 5 lety +6

      This looks nothing like the morita

  • @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
    @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 Před 4 lety +159

    Ian missed on a killing to say “would you like to know more”

  • @beast0339
    @beast0339 Před 2 lety +2

    really wish they'd make these still for larger military contracts, because that PCAPS system is really interesting. Plus modularity really is a useful thing to have on a standard rifle

  • @danchoen3847
    @danchoen3847 Před 3 lety +1

    Man the attachment system is soooo cool!

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG Před 5 lety +150

    LOL... how can you look "more Starship Troopers" than that OICW?

    • @ironraccoon3536
      @ironraccoon3536 Před 5 lety +5

      Desert camo.

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel Před 5 lety +4

      "Also.. give us powered armor and dropships to go with"

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A Před 3 lety

      @@NefariousKoel nah they'll be drop in capsules. Capsules are small and when they open, they break apart to create chaff to confuse sensors like radar. Anyone in a powered armor is basically a one man army.

  • @montana12810
    @montana12810 Před 5 lety +626

    SINCE THEY ARE UNWANTED & UNLOVED BY THE MILITARY--I'LL TAKE ALL THREE?

  • @kylewhite8434
    @kylewhite8434 Před rokem +1

    The P cap system is essentially old style Keymod when you think about it.

  • @patricksnyder7724
    @patricksnyder7724 Před 2 lety

    One of my favorite forgotten weapons videos

  • @atomicstarlord3567
    @atomicstarlord3567 Před 5 lety +550

    Now I am certain that Menendez will make an uprising in 2025

  • @BrainSeepsOut
    @BrainSeepsOut Před 5 lety +270

    Can we officially declare the XM8 the "Betamax of Firearms"?

  • @lukemchale-jones3041
    @lukemchale-jones3041 Před 2 lety

    I've really not much interest in guns, but that was a good insight into engineering for modularisation. A lot of work and no small amount of pride went into the design of that system.
    I really wouldn't know how it compares to others mind and it would be nice to see a comparison of a few systems.
    I'll check out your other videos. Cheers.

  • @supersonicbros23
    @supersonicbros23 Před rokem

    Think I always liked about the XM8 was its ergonomics, this would be great and easy to handle slung over your back, not likely to snag on clothing or foliage, and all of its accessories mold to match.

  • @alejoromero
    @alejoromero Před 5 lety +276

    In the future, H&K will develop the pulse rifle for the Colonial Marines, so don't worry about the flops.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 Před 5 lety +5

      Alejandro Romero if those pulse rifle can't kill even single alien, go for shotgun

    • @joshm3484
      @joshm3484 Před 5 lety +3

      In the present, they're making the M27 for the US Marines, and it's having issues.

    • @DMAGAEscober
      @DMAGAEscober Před 4 lety +6

      Is rather have the Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range

    • @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
      @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 Před 4 lety +4

      HK later formed Misriah armory on mars to make the MA5 and BR55 bull pup rifles for the UNSC

    • @manuelcjr52
      @manuelcjr52 Před 4 lety +2

      @@justnoob8141 except they did kill xenos , a lot canonically

  • @agentham
    @agentham Před 5 lety +222

    6:28 BOOP

  • @beschuitfluiter
    @beschuitfluiter Před 2 lety

    Pretty well thought of all and all.

  • @ashermickey1647
    @ashermickey1647 Před 4 lety +1

    Other than looking like an MA5D I think this is a really good idea although it's always a good idea to have iron sights for backup than none at all

  • @andrewpiegzik4121
    @andrewpiegzik4121 Před 5 lety +116

    If they wanted to make it look more 'Starship Troopers' all they had to do was buy Ruger Mini-14s.

  • @shallows529
    @shallows529 Před 5 lety +1196

    Bad Company 1/2 anybody?

    • @BazsiHHH
      @BazsiHHH Před 5 lety +66

      yup I have been hoping for these to come up in a new game ever since. They're just way too beautiful.

    • @KilLeREagLe21
      @KilLeREagLe21 Před 5 lety +27

      Was looking for this comment

    • @Skullnaught
      @Skullnaught Před 5 lety +51

      Metal Gear Soild 4

    • @kirbysbestfan
      @kirbysbestfan Před 5 lety +4

      I too have been wishing for them to show up again in a game.

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 Před 5 lety +43

      Still waiting for bad company 3

  • @guymagson1230
    @guymagson1230 Před 2 lety

    Definitely a cool gun I never knew it was this modular seems like the perfect standard rifle in some respects

  • @scarletcrusader5431
    @scarletcrusader5431 Před rokem +2

    Oh man the OICW(Objective Individual Combat Weapon) is by far one of my favorite experimental rifles. It helps it was in the Half-Life 2 beta as the Combine Soldier's main rifle before it was changed to the pulse rifle

  • @NonCompete
    @NonCompete Před 5 lety +251

    11:00 now I have a grenade launcher ho ho ho

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Před 5 lety +62

    Thanks H&K for giving Ian access and allowing him to film and share with us! Very cool :)

  • @ephemispriest8069
    @ephemispriest8069 Před 4 lety

    The attachment system here is pretty neat.

  • @obliviondust2719
    @obliviondust2719 Před 3 lety +11

    Can't wait for the NGSW weapons breakdown to be featured on here when the army inevitably cancel them :D

  • @damnedLegion40K
    @damnedLegion40K Před 5 lety +98

    Love the XM-8 in battlefield bad company 2, great rifle.

    • @YugoM92
      @YugoM92 Před 2 lety +5

      I was dropping North Koreans with this Rifle in Ghost Recon 2

    • @punished_gooner
      @punished_gooner Před rokem

      ​@@YugoM92 yes bro yes

  • @OneShotNick92
    @OneShotNick92 Před 5 lety +191

    Gun jesus has a fish... i hope he can divide it... coz i want one!!!

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 Před 5 lety +6

      marlangelXXVIII he’s not feeding the 5,000 he’s got over a million followers!

    • @jjtomecek1623
      @jjtomecek1623 Před 5 lety +1

      @@icywhatyoudidthere G11

    • @ComeOnPelican91
      @ComeOnPelican91 Před 5 lety +3

      Fn F2000 is a fish as well

    • @veilsidefun
      @veilsidefun Před 5 lety +1

      If you want a civilian model of the fish gun... tommy built makes the clones. Crazy expensive but well worth it

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer Před 5 lety

      If that’s a fish, what’s a loaf?

  • @Ratrazor
    @Ratrazor Před 3 lety +1

    This is one of the modular rifle systems are also really liked that never got any credit

  • @nikkigarand7258
    @nikkigarand7258 Před 4 lety

    Well that looks like a really fun platform and I'm more old school. Cool setup.

  • @Peter-ox7wh
    @Peter-ox7wh Před 5 lety +86

    50 shades of Ian

  • @maldavion1003
    @maldavion1003 Před 5 lety +30

    As German ex military I can tell you the problem around the g36 as it was around my serving time when developed vor us.
    One of the at that time requirements of the Bundeswehr was that it has to be fully functional for northern and mid Europe basically ftom Spain to Denmark to say like that. The g36 was never designed to be fully functional in desert climatic conditions. And to add to that the very wise and all mighty burocrats decided that instead of using the recommended ammo that they should use the cheaper ones. Result at intense shootings with a lot of full auto use the barrel tended to heat up too much which caused a lack of accuracy. That's the whole story about it. Our useless minister of defense just seeked a way to get a new gun cheaper by blaming h&k did a bad job. Fun fact the new AR for Bundeswehr is, surprise surprise, a h&k.

  • @kermanguy1877
    @kermanguy1877 Před 2 lety

    I just like that you can have an underslung optic for your PDW with this system.

  • @chip599XX_VGRLeader
    @chip599XX_VGRLeader Před 2 lety +1

    From the Alternate Timeline in the VGR Universe. The XM8 was Adopted by the US Army in 2022 during The Murder Drones War as a Futuristic Assault Rifle replacing the M4 Assault Rifle and the M16 Assault Rifle.

  • @SmokyMountainsHauling
    @SmokyMountainsHauling Před 5 lety +68

    XM-8 was an amazing platform, sad it never got adopted.

    • @raidy5215
      @raidy5215 Před 5 lety +9

      It IS adopted. By the TLDM (Royal Malaysian Navy)

    • @THEZWARRIORWAR
      @THEZWARRIORWAR Před 5 lety +11

      It really wasn't, it failed tons of military testings and the attachment points are extremely stupid

    • @m1a1abramstank49
      @m1a1abramstank49 Před 4 lety +5

      SemperFiMac77 Yes we shall invest more money on something that doesn’t really improve on much with performance, one of the reasons why the US never had a replacement rifle in a while

    • @shredmunds7660
      @shredmunds7660 Před 4 lety +1

      @@poolee77 Really? I thought this was the peice of junk that kept melting.

    • @erics7219
      @erics7219 Před 4 lety +11

      @@poolee77 xm8 is an exceptional gun. most ppl underestimate this gun by its look, but in combat, i will take this xm8 over m4 or m16 any day