GERM that kills schools: Pasi Sahlberg at TEDxEast

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2012
  • Activist & Education Director Pasi Sahlberg brings what he has learned from the education system in his native Finland to United States' parents, teachers and policy makers.
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Komentáře • 47

  • @marqann
    @marqann Před 10 lety +40

    Best talk I've ever heard about education, and I've been a teacher for 17 years, and I've heard quite a lot....

    • @GeorgeDole
      @GeorgeDole Před 5 lety +6

      Add this TEDTalk to Michael Moore"s short documentary about Finish Education and you'll start to see why Finland ranks #1 in Education by various rating agencies.

  • @ramkumarias2027
    @ramkumarias2027 Před 2 měsíci

    This video created is 11 years ago. Now I seen it. It's wanted thing around the globe. Thankyou lot mr pasi shelberg

  • @nyrtzi
    @nyrtzi Před 4 lety +7

    This matches with what management sciences say. Help people learn to understand their strengths and weaknesses, help them to mitigate the risks of their weaknesses and to develop their strengths which make them valuable on the job market. I don't see how that can happen when the educational system is effectively industrialized through standardization to make everyone merely capable of passing specific tests. If the standards and demands are high enough then you can guarantee some quality but it leaves all of the non-standard talents of the diverse pool of potential mostly untapped. Finland is not a very big country in terms of population so Finland can't really afford to throw any talent away.

  • @abigailknox-leet6949
    @abigailknox-leet6949 Před 4 lety

    So very interest to know more about Accountability and Responsibility .

  • @sarahzhang9658
    @sarahzhang9658 Před 10 měsíci

    I just had a three-week trip to Helsinki, Finland. Many people said Finnish people do not talk much like Dr. Pasi Sahlberh states here. Interestingly, I spoke to quite a few Finnish people there. My goodness, they were very talkative. So, Finnish people can😊 be very talkative when they feel comfortable talking with you.

  • @nicknack1947
    @nicknack1947 Před 11 lety

    Than you for your idea and may just have to do that , david nz..

  • @erniereyes1994
    @erniereyes1994 Před 3 lety +5

    6:03 teachers in Finland need a master's degree and teacher training programs are the most selective schools in the country. In the US, you can be in six month programs and become a teacher with no experience 🙄 this is a simple difference that matters greatly.
    Something I also like that Finland's education system does is offer individualized grading and student counseling (as well as offering free psychological counseling, education and healthcare). Less homework and creative play, or at least prioritizing creativity, is also fantastic.
    But, for the US to achieve the same level of success as Finland's education system, they need not become a socialist country. In fact, they should become more of a free market by pulling back restrictions and laws on businesses, establishing a competitive environment in the private sector, and securing economic freedom for people to pursue their separate interests. There's nothing wrong with having free healthcare and free education, but taxes will be enormously high (as the Prime Minister of Denmark has pointed out). And to "pay" for free healthcare and education in taxes, you need to have a strong private sector. This is why, contrary to popular belief, places like Finland and Denmark are not socialistic countries; they're market economies with a strong safety net. Best of both worlds you can say.

    • @freddyfriesen
      @freddyfriesen Před 3 lety

      I think that teachers in Finland a given a living wage. From what my American friends tell me, teaching in the United States is an act of charity.

    • @erniereyes1994
      @erniereyes1994 Před 3 lety

      @@freddyfriesen so true. It's not that difficult to be a teacher here either. That might contribute to pay and quality

    • @greywolf271
      @greywolf271 Před 3 lety

      Would it also be true to say that you could become a teacher in the US if you know someone at the local school ? No experience needed, just friends with the school board ? No accounability ? Just like becoming a cop in the US ?

  • @stellamariegalimpin-johan6115

    Fantastic!

  • @nicknack1947
    @nicknack1947 Před 11 lety

    I went to our local library system to get the book but guess what ? Very , very sad , david nz

  • @erysantosa6356
    @erysantosa6356 Před 5 lety +6

    Hello, i'm teacher from Indonesia and very interested about this presentation. I think Indonesian people must see this in their language. May i help to give translate to Indonesian language?

    • @davidd2969
      @davidd2969 Před 4 lety +2

      What a Fantastic idea! Go ahead and translate it. It would bring much good to both students and teachers.
      Include a link to this video in your video description for proper credit to the original video. That way you dont violate You Tube copyright laws.
      Please let me know once you do it, if you can. Thanks

  • @thewickinator
    @thewickinator Před 11 lety +1

    wow 16:35-16:40 as well amazing

  • @AlexisWittman1
    @AlexisWittman1 Před 7 lety

    Why are your books in the garage?

  • @biobiobio7777
    @biobiobio7777 Před 7 lety +2

    Dammit, I fell for the 5000!!! Welp I'm sad.

  • @thewickinator
    @thewickinator Před 11 lety +3

    wow..15:03-15:15....wow yes!

  • @lancecarrmusic
    @lancecarrmusic Před 29 dny

    Responsibility > Accountability!

  • @Terlin1466
    @Terlin1466 Před 10 lety

    5000!!! wait 4,100 wow. ...

  • @welliraq647
    @welliraq647 Před 8 lety +4

    i like his presentation about the germs that might hit the education, now i am in finland as refugee and we started to see violence in street against refugees!!, does it the result of that GERM, or related with quick learning from the others?

  • @ClemensKatzer
    @ClemensKatzer Před 5 lety +1

    And they have "downproved" Finnish schools heavily since then. Too sad.

  • @cjleblanc3439
    @cjleblanc3439 Před 10 lety

    Sorry, That was a quote from u.s. pres. Obama. It w as s w/ regard to increasing our students knowledge levels. The discussion acknowledged possibility our future success in this area by implementing and enhancing U.S.teaching methods from ideas which are successful currently in the top world schools.

  • @idgaf3765
    @idgaf3765 Před 5 lety

    2019

  • @marqann
    @marqann Před 10 lety +3

    we have taken teachers seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @cjl24683
    @cjl24683 Před 10 lety +1

    Let's become competitive with the top world schools. We are spending $3,000 more a yr. per kid than the world's top school system. We can do it.

    • @andrewdineen2387
      @andrewdineen2387 Před 10 lety +1

      Not sure if your choice of words is best. "Competitive" ;)

    • @cjl24683
      @cjl24683 Před 10 lety

      They WILL be competing in the world job mrkt

    • @andrewdineen2387
      @andrewdineen2387 Před 10 lety +1

      ........But is it ability to compete or the ability cooperate as part of a successful team that the most innovative employers are looking for.
      Who would you want on your team, the person that wants to do better than you or the person that's wants both of you to create something special together by sharing creative ideas?

    • @cjl24683
      @cjl24683 Před 10 lety

      Yes, Andrew so good. You hv very very strong point! consider a more controlled environment minus the much publicized U.S. kids' bullying/ harassment ...thru our newly fostered and developing teacher autonomy here not unlike that in Finland blending kids together.

    • @andrewdineen2387
      @andrewdineen2387 Před 10 lety

      CJ LeBlanc Highly educated autonomous early years education work force is where we would like to reach in the not too distant future. However, I feel a marketing campaign aimed at the general public (THE VOTERS) promoting the importance of child led QUALITY education thus evoking thought and making people question politicians about what they plan to do for the sector is necessary. Government listen to voters and nothing can be implemented without government backing and much needed funding to support many areas such as non-contact time for staff to plan, write observations, personal development, continuous training etc. etc. and critically reflect on how to improve practice through personal, team and sector development. So we can provide better services for children and families.
      Sorry my reply above is a bit rushed and messy, its late and more work to do tomorrow. :D

  • @MrGalpino
    @MrGalpino Před 2 lety

    Do Americans really say 1000 as 'thousand'?

  • @dennisr.levesque2320
    @dennisr.levesque2320 Před 6 lety +1

    Like most others, you confuse standardized tests with standardized persons. If the entire zoo is in a common class, then they need to take a common test, period. Just because some will fail at a specific class, does not mean they are less of an animal. It just means that a fish can't climb a tree, or a teacher can't teach an old dog new tricks. It does not mean you are not who you are. You're just in the wrong class. You sound like the sloth who's looking for any class that's easy to graduate by birth-right without learning anything. You don't need school for that.

    • @FA-kt3is
      @FA-kt3is Před 2 lety

      I would like to disagree with you. I was told that my daughter is "biologically not ready to get multiplication tables and word problems". I ask school for a "Friday-off" for her and taught her. By the end of the year she was "on-line" with kids who are "biologically ready for math". Since that time she become independent learner of math, and now 3 years later she is at the "top of her class" in math. I just wanted to say that every child deserves an individualized education. And that will help them to feel more confident in their abilities that eventually will lead to the "discovery" of their talent

    • @dennisr.levesque2320
      @dennisr.levesque2320 Před 2 lety

      @@FA-kt3is "biologically not ready to get multiplication tables and word problems"? There's your problem. That's like saying, "Mathematically not ready to get exercise.". I wouldn't have believed them either. That doesn't invalidate my argument.

  • @freakbird
    @freakbird Před 5 měsíci

    I expected more from him. He speaks boring, said almost nothing helpful