How multiplate clutches work! (Animation)
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Multi-plate clutches work with several friction discs, unlike dry friction clutches used in most cars with manual transmissions where only one friction disc with two friction surfaces is used to transmit power from the engine to the transmission.
Contents
1) Difference to dry friction clutches in cars
2) Friction discs and steel discs
3) Clutch basket
4) Engaging the clutch through pressure
5) Pressure plate, coil springs and push rod
6) Power transmission from engine to gearbox - Věda a technologie
The music make those clutch plates look freaking heroic. Great video.
Brilliant video - i always had a basic idea how these work but this animation makes it so clear. Perfect for all n00bs. Great job!
So I just learned a lot from this this. THANKS A LOT!
Me too! Come check out the effect of additives on this! Does Lucas Upper cylinder Lubricant help or hurt?
Thank you, your animations really clarify things.
Thanks for wonderful animation. Cleared concept regarding multiple clutch.
Wow! I really liked this. Very nicely explained. I am waiting for a similar animation on slipper clutches!
I agree with others, very clear understandable explanation about how the multi-disk clutch pack works, thanks.
Excellent animation.I was just confused from the diagrams and theory in the book and then i saw this.Great work👍👍
Good job Thomas, i live in turkey and automative student.I was in a lot of trouble with it because there are not enough resources in Turkey. Thank you man. I wish you continued success :)
Aynen öyle olanlar da eski .
This is a great explanation and illustration. Thank you.
Brilliant work , be nice to mention a few other elements ( 1 ) friction material sometimes cork ( 2 ) sometimes in an oil bath , to remove heat ( 3 ) may be used to reduce overall diameter .
Thank you so much for your informative post, Mr. Thomas Schwenke!
I have a 1923 REO fire truck and this is exactly how the clutches work. Amazing that they had this technology back then.
Thanks for uploading this! I actually understand because of your video!
Thanks for all your videos! i'm so happy thank you :)
Thanks man, I was really stuck when I was studying and was in doubt why torque increased but the force remained same in the equations for multi disk vs single disk clutch.. after seeing this i finally understood..
As usual. You are doing a great job to the humanity
The video is very good and clears all the things with a very precise animation :-)
My kind request is you can try to duck the sound of background when the narrator is speaking because the background music is bit too loud which makes it a little difficult to concentrate on the narrators voice ... but the overall video is excellent ..Kudos (y)
londe ne mahnat kari likhne me.....
Exactly. Very annoying noise (music). Otherwise ok.
@@herkko61 my tolerance for it is up pretty good after watching professional TV at the doctors and they did it worse. Lol. I've done this with music a bit on my Automotive videos, but I'm very careful. I recently uploaded a wet clutch slip problem and fix if you're curious.
Thank you so much for this video! You have helped me alot. SMOOCHES hun!
Even in english, that's great. Keep going !!!
+indraidabagus the engine is on the left if this is inside a Ducati motorcycle. Your question is difficult to answer because there are so many applications and most clutches can be used in either direction.
But, to give you an example, look at a Ducati motorcycle. The shaft on the left of the animation would be the shaft inside the engine connected to the piston rods. This means the inner plates are spun by the engine and the clutch transfers the rotation to the plates with the teeth on the outside. Then that can be used to turn a belt that then spins the transmission and finally the tires.
So the most simple answer could be to say "engine on left" but because of the endless possibilities he didn't want to say it as a blanket statement.
Thanks for your useful animation.
There's so much attention to detail! I can't wait for the next video! :D :D nice work too btw
Thank you. The next video will come soon :)
Thank you for the great explanation. There's one thing about multiple clutches that I don't understand. These clutches sit together with the gears in the gearbox and run in oil. Even though the friction disks and the steel plates are pressed together, why don't they slip (because of the oil) ?
great visualization!
Thanks for sharing these videos for free Thomas Schwenke, for me, I work, study and am a father, is helpful.
You are doing a great job for the society.
thank you alot.
Good explanation, so it's easy to learn, thanks!
This actually works almost exactly like the wheel brakes on commercial aircraft, the obvious exception being the use of friction to reduce speed rather than transmit power.
Your videos are awesome! :)
Very good and clear video. You helped me studying engineering, thanks!!!
Great to hear that :)
Great video !!!
Congratulations.
I 'really' learnt a lot from this clip. Friction between 'inner teeth' plate & 'outer teeth' plate.........
As I didn't know about teeth difference, I always thought "what the heck is the difference between engaging/disengaging those packs?"
brilliant. i totally understand. thanks
very well made
Great video!
Great video, thank you!
Any idea on what the issue would be if the clutch would not disengage/catch the friction zone? I'm assuming the friction discs are stuck?
Excellent Video. @Thomas Quite often my Bike Clutch Plate Eradicates, that is the friction does not work, resulting in low acceleration and some time no speed above 30 km/h, in that case i have to change my clutch plate [Changed already thrice] My mechanic told me it is due to half clutch, my question is why does it happen and how does it happen and how do i avoid it?
This is such a good video. Now I can take my ducati apart!
Awesome explanation!
Sound Jay
awesome animation !!brother!! makes its easy to visualize!
which software are you using?
Thx alot. I use Carrara 8 Pro.
This animation helped me.
it took two videos to understand while the other videos Makes me go balls.
thank you so much thomas sir
Hello,
I will be glad, if you could tell me from where I can download the 3D model of the clutch you are presenting.
Thanks in advance and great video!!!
Great explanation on it all but not quite good on the disengaging of the clutches. How is the disegagement levere connected to the clutch plates
thank you
nice animation information
What is the force required to disengage a multiclutch system as compared to a single disc clutch system
How will the steel disks rotate??? They are attached to the case.
hello thomas,
what is the advantage of multiple clutch over single clutch plate?
What is the purpose steel discs between friction plates? I dont see any advantage?
How do the spring move inward? They are fully bolted in.
Excellent.
Can i do "power shifting" with this kind of clutch without any modification with the motorcycle?
You can clutch less shift....if that's what you mean. Pre-loading the shifter, while momentarily letting off the throttle, and ill pop into the next gesr no problem, but to "powershift...AKA quickshift. You need a quickshifter, or a power commander/ Bazazz with quickshifter...If that helps
Thomas... who has made this animations... beautiful illustration
+Subodhh Vaishampayan It's me!
how if the 4 friction dics are brand new, and 1 of them is the old one?
Just one question is it centrifugal driven cuz if i were to hold on the shifter ot would disconnected the power .My motorcyle is an honda ex5
Genius!
Hi. my 520i f10. While decelerating at 20 km/h, the car downshifts, and if I press the accelerator immediately, it makes a hard movement and starts accelerating. I wonder if the lock up clutch comes into play? It only does it when it's hot. thanks
Hi Thomas!, wich program did you use to do the animations? 3dmax? EXCELENT ALL YOUR WORKS
+Mauricio DR Carrara 8 Pro.
what are the differences of Multi Plate wet clutch vs Hydraulic radial pump clutch?
Could you do a video on the Hele Shaw clutch?
There are a lot of other videos that must be produced first, but I'll add it to the list :)
great vids!
now do they drive planetary members? and can it brake or hold them?
Will riding the clutch cause wear or are they spaced enough to avoid that?
have 1976 Triumph Bonneville which was rarely used(1128 miles)Sometimes it starts without any problems on kicking(one kick)..However lately in trying to kick start the crank does not rotate on pushing down. There is severe resistance like grabbing(in neutral of course) on kicking down..DRIVING me NUTS to figure out!! HELP SVP
Hello .. I have a question that at the car clutch the disengagement is 1 mm for small engines and 1.5mm for the big engines but what is the basic cam properties that usually used for this .. what is the distance between dome of the cam and the cam basic circle ... or what is its table .. f(x)=??? ... and what is the spring K(N/m) constant .... ... after I did some not much presiced calculations I can imagine while pulling the clutch handle of a motor bike small engine: like 125 cc that it is like pushing 500 kg isn't it ? Thank you !!! :)
+Thomas Schwanke thanks for this and the other Videos. One question tho: If I pull the lever on my motorcycle, I engage the clutch. But your video shows that with the rod, you pull them together. If anybody else knows it, please leave a comment how it works, thnk you.
+Dani M The rod is used to push not pull. When you pull the lever, the rod is pushed which disengages the friction plates
Damn, the music is too good that I couldn't focus on the video😁
wot Its just like something you hear playing in a toilet
Can anyone explain to me what is a shaft to shaft mount and what a shaft through mount?
Is there fluid within the clutch pack?
Good work brother.... Tomorrow is my semester... Haven't studied anything... But your videos helped me a lot :) #Cheers #Champ
Great to hear that. Good luck!
Cheers champ!
Thanks I needed this 😁😁😁🤘
excellent
Can you do a video about sequential/racing style gearbox works :D
Yes, this will be an animation for the next series.
Thomas Schwenke Nice. :D
Which is better, dual clutch or sequential?
Well, it depends. There is no easy answer :)
thank you so much brother
When the pressure isn't applied the metal plates and friction plates magically separate... Every video I've watched never mentions how the plates seperate and why they don't continue to stick together after the pressure is removed...
I have the same issue. Anyone know?
l forgot to mention that the out resistance crank turns over with plugs removed but NUTS it does not turn over and has heavy grabbing and hard to go through full kick swing because of resistance.
ok sir, nice
Perfect 🤝
What are the advantages of a multiple plate clutch over a single plate clutch?
Diameter is much lower.
Kain Bastien high torque
the explanation in the video from time 1:57 sec. is said vice-versa with respect to the animation. Can you correct it?
So when the friction plate and steel plates are pressed together power is transmitted And when the plates are not pressed together power is not transmitted. So can i say that the working of multiple clutches is opposite to working of single plate clutch. since in a single plate clutch, when the diaphram spring is pressed the power is not transmitted and when it is released there is power. (NOT THE PRINCIPLE OF WORKING)
Why are there multiple pressure disks ? Why not use only 1 or 2 ?
Does a one plate clutch have to be so heavy to have enough friction that disengaging it would be too hard for a system that wouldn't be bulky and heavy for a motorbike? Is this why single-plate clutches are commonplace on cars but I've never seen one on a motorbike before?
+junoguten I assume it's because single-plate clutches require a much larger radius in order to get the same leverage. Even if they were lightweight they'd be far too bulky for a motorbike.
nagualdesign That makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
So..what's the benefit of having multiple plates? Are more plates necessarily better? Most racing applications I've heard of use multiple plates..does that mean they're not recommended for daily driving? Are they harder to press down than single plates? Any info is helpful thank you
They're not necessarily bad for DD, they're typically just lighter and more compact. This comes at the cost of complexity, which decreases part life and increases maintenance costs. They can also be used to transmit significantly more power than single clutch plate systems.
i thought the plates where the other way round? (just watched a clutch replacement)
were
very good and clear video
but the music is very noise with the description
Thank you for your comment. I'll bear this in mind when I produce other animations.
Great video but the music was distracting.
thanks buddy
There is only one ambiguity that i see,the friction disk and steel plates got interchanged?
Is it aproblem if a motobike that i want to buy use to change the cluth ? Who can tell me please
The clutch plate's engage in the basket and the steel discs slot into the center, wrong way around but the principle is correct
Thomas Schwenke What software do you use for modeling and animating?
Carrara 8 Pro.
So why does it need multiple plates? On my honda I have 7, and one of them is larger than the other 6.
+Reilly Brunette my guess: multiple disks means increased surface contact which can hold more power with less friction per disk compared to an only two disk clutch. that implies less wear and smaller clutch unit.
Thanks
Thanks buddy
wonder why cars do not use a wet multi plate setup?
Very good vid , thank`s
Thx for your comment!
thanks
Thanks man
I don't understand how this works in relation to a torque converter.