Weihrauch HW80k Review and Accuracy Test - A classic springer rifle
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We take a look at the Weihrauch HW80k - with a full run through of the rifle and some practice shooting.
Presented by Richard Saunders from Alpha Militaria - an air rifle review and information site. Richard, has been shooting air rifles for nearly forty years. Today he hunts and carries out pest control on more than a thousand acres spread across different locations in the south of England. He is a regular contributor to Airgun Shooter magazine, writing mainly hunting features and product reviews, as well The Airgun Show on CZcams.
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Classic springer, not much to go wrong, shoot all day and last for years, love them
No argument here Peter. Thanks for watching.
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I'd love to see a review of the HW99S, Richard.
Keep up the good work as I'm a massive fan of your clips. đđ»
Iâve had my hw80 since I was 14 Iâm fifty this year itâs been an awesome gun
Same as me Matthew. Wouldn't be without it. Thanks for watching.
I bought my HW35 in 1979, Still amazingly powerful
HW80k is a brilliant rifle. I had mine for almost 7 years now and never had any issues with it what so ever. Mine is .22 and I hit 5p coins at 60 yards constantly which for a sprin rifle is pretty amazing. The only downside it's very pellet fussy, mine seems to love bisley long range gold or air arms diabolo field only. Yet it's the only rifle I will never think of selling. Happy shooting đ
Try FTTs there really good, fit barrel great.
Here in the Netherlands I'm fortunate to be able to legally own and enjoy a full size full powered HW80 in .22 and (very) full powered tuned HW80K in .25... Stunning guns, together with the HW97K they are my favourites. Groups
I'm very jealous John! Thanks for watching.
I parted with my PCP air rifles in 2023 and switched to Weihrauch Springers and have no regrets at all. Good presentation and please keep up the good work.
Thanks very much. What's your favourite HW springer?
I bought one of these last month best springer Iv ever had
Great review as always đ
Thanks James.
Thanks for a great review.
Thanks very much John. My mk1 HW80 is a rifle I will never, ever get rid of.
An excellent review, very well presented. I now own 3 of these. .177 & .22 1981 and 1982 respectively bought new at the time. Both of these have had Lazerglide conversions primarily because they were running a bit hot straight out of the box. They are beautiful to fire and will print 1/2 inch groups at 45 yards all day long. My latest one is in the rare .25 calibre but it needs a bit of work to get it running properly. Heavy guns yes but I love em!. All the best and keep up the good work. Dave
Thanks very much David. I wouldn't be without my 1981 rifle. Thanks for watching and good luck with the .25.
I have watched your video of this rifle several times and you did a good job with it. My rifle is a Beeman R1k in .20 cal. It ended up blowing the piston seal because the tube was not machined properly. I had it fixed by John in PA, who did a wonderful job, and he also lowered the power down to 15 foot pounds to make it easier for me to use. It gets shot down in the basement, along with my old FWB 124D, and he made it into a nice enjoyable rifle that is also very accurate. Truly a workhorse of a rifle.
Great rifle David. At 15 ft lbs I'm sure it shoots smooth as silk. Thanks for watching.
Thankyou for your review.
You're welcome Ian. Thank you for watching.
Great review love the channel very professional đ
Thanks very much Phillip.
Just picked up a 1983 MK1 in superb condition, seals perished, canât wait to refresh it đ
Nice vid , must say they do some lovely springers đ
Hi Kevin. They certainly do, many of them have been in the line up for decades. Thanks for watching.
Super nice đđ. Love my HW80 22.
Still got a Mk1 Hw80 i bought in 90s second hand , has a bisely 4x40 wide/waterproof scope that come with it, just removed the stock too Danish oil it and it looking good as I've never treated or touched the stock at all but its coming up better than expected, not had it out for years even sorted the leather strap and removed the trigger and cleaned it with brake cleaner then reoiled and ptfe greased it lightly , looking not bad
I have a Paul Short tuned 80K in 177, the only rifle I'll never part with.
Great reviews, I really enjoy them.
Thanks very much Robin. That's a great rifle, and a keeper for sure. Thanks for watching.
Great đđ» review. Thanks
Thanks very much.
@@alphamilitaria2756 itâs a choice of this or the hw 97k or air arms tx200 gives one a mite headache đ€
Thanks for such a great video, I bought a new HW80K a couple of months ago and absolutely love it! I have wanted one for the past 20 years and can honestly say that I am not disappointed in the slightest. Mine too has a very noticeable twang to it, especially compared to my best friends TX200HC. I have just ordered a drop in tuning kit (from Welsh Willy) which I am hoping will make it a bit quieter. Please keep up the excellent videos sir.
Thanks Edwin. I'm glad you like your 80. I'll never get rid of mine. I'm sure a WW kit will work wonders. Don't put too much grease on the spring - just the lightest covering...
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Thanks for a great video, Richard. I still have a mk1 HW80 from 1983 fitted with the old Wisperer silencer which does tame the rifle's muzzle crack and for such small size does so extremely well. Yet I've always felt that the HW35E is the better performing rifle of the two. The HW80 has a slower, heavier shot cycle than the HW35E which I think is better suited to our UK limit of sub 12 ft lbs. In conclusion I'd say the HW80 is a superb chunk of Tuetonic engineering but would perform much better at the power level for which it was designed. I've experimented with short stiff springs, long soft springs, different piston seals and although I admit it is an accurate rifle I'd rather use my own HW35E from 1987 for its shooting manners. Having said all that your grouping with HW80 is very good. I suppose it's a case of to each to his own.
The 80 in the video was very noisy all I here from mine is thunk and its a great rifle for the hide it shooting at 11.8ftlbs and my 35e is 10.9 foot pounds and it loves slugs at 13g and deadly and very accurate but it has a great crack and I will not try to make it quieter I like the crack
I have two Diana springer's with side lever cocking plus a TX200 which is my go-to spring gun, also a .22 Theoben break barrel that is a gas ram gun, I have yet to own a Weihrauch spring gun but have a HW100 Bull-pup which is great. One day I will end up with a Weihrauch spring or gas ram gun, I can see it coming!
Some great rifles there Baz. Needs a Weihrauch to complete the set though :)
Richard, a second adjustment screw accessible after de-stocking the rifle is for sear engagement. power of 24 fpe is a bit over rated, since a venom magnum tuned 22 of mine was already rated very highly by the tuner Dave Pope, running at 23 fpe.
sorry Bob, but I did not make a note of TP diameter.@@BobBob-cn1yy
Mine was an 1981 model in .22 and I had a Galway silencer fitted, but it blew the internals out, so I returned it and they sent me an FAC specified one to replace it.
I was using RWS Super Field in mine and was closing the action the way you are doing in the vid. I discovered pellets were falling out of the breach! One actually got caught in the action and got well flattened against the face of the receiver and barrel.
Yeah, not my favourite pellet. I've never had that problem with JSB, AA DF, H&N etc...The only other issue could be a dodgy breech seal, but then you'd notice other issues with the rifle if that were the case. Time to try some new pellets!
Hi Richard.Great review again.
What a fab springer.Do you prefer break barrels or underlevers?
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Thanks Justin. I love my HW80 but have to accept that fixed barrel underlevers have the edge on accuracy. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Rich! Absolutely brilliant review as per usual đ
Your recent reviews of springers is really well timed; I'm looking for a springer as a back-up to my PCP. I think I'm going to go for one of the under-leavers (HW97K/TX200HC/Walther LGU) But would you be able to review the HW95K soon? I'm very interested in what you have to say about it, especially now you've got the HW80K to compare it to. I hear the HW95K can be 'jumpy' to say the least!
Go well, and stay safe.
Rich.
Hi. Yes its definitely on the list, and they are superb rifles. The LGU is sadly no longer being made, but have you seen our reviews on the TX200 and HW97K? As well as the HW77K and ProSport? Thanks for watching.
@@alphamilitaria2756 Thanks for the reply. Yes I have seen your reviews for those rifles - they are very informative. Itâs a real shame about the LGU - no wonder they are like hens teeth! I think itâs a toss up between a 2nd hand under leaver or a new 95. Still, not going to be for a while as need to get saving đ
@@greylag8630 Hopefully we'll have got our review of the HW95 in soon to help you make up your mind.
nice gun it looks the same as the hunter version. pellpax does a package version similar to this gun
Fantastic break barrel rifle , though I must say , the earlier version ( yours ) looks to have that little bit more character , whether it's the style of the stock , or a little weathered look too it , probably a bit of both . A trip to Sandwell field sports by where I live would benefit the test rifle Once Tony wall has worked his magic on it , it would be transformed into one hell of a smooth operator .. super vid thought , would have liked you to have done a " old v new " comparison .. that would have been a bonus
Thanks Mark. To be honest, my rifle has been V-Mach tuned and modified by Lyn Lewington so it wouldn't be a true comparison. The test rifle had that typical Weihrauch twang to it, but it still shot really well and very accurately. But I'd take my old rifle any day!
Very true my good mate Raymond has a very early Hw 80 and its better then the new one its very old just as the 12ftlbs became law and its got marks on the wood there is no blue and the barrel but marked with use not abuse still one great rifle and he knows if it comes up for sale I get first dibs.
Your vids are really good. Would be good to see what you think of some more classic air rifles and rim fires. I am amazed how powerful my hw80 is in uk 12ftlb. It penetrates my oak backstop to 8mm at 25 metres and Iâve humanely taken rabbits at 35 metres. Thanks
Thanks very much. I'm looking at possibly doing a review of an FAC classic springer with a modern FAC PCP which should be fun. Did you see our review of the HW80? One o the best rifles ever made in my view. Thanks for watching.
Oh blimey the hw80. I can remember going to Tom Coopers gunshop in Hanley just before Xmas 82 with my dad. He bought me a .22 80 for Xmas. 76 quid it cost. Still own it. Topped with a tasco 2.75x40 scope it was a great rabbiting gun.
Not uncommon in those days to have one pushing 18 ft lbs straight out the box.......even the old bill wernt interested as long as you were sensible with it. How times have changed.
Yep. I remember getting stopped by the police with a couple of my mates in around 81...before I got the 80. We were all carrying rifles. The guns were covered. They just asked us what we were carrying. We showed em & they went on their way. It was considered the norm back then to see lads with air rifles in the village where I live. No one batted an eye.
@@dawiddadun3044 Indeed mate ,,,,,far better days than now.
@@dawiddadun3044 yep great days.. Hw80.. Fwb sport.. Still both working.. Only changed spring once in each rifle..
This rifle will last a lifetime if looked after
Very measured review, thanks. Iâm going to get my lad a Hatsan 900x and if he keeps the interest he can then move up the ladder and think of a Weihrach later on.
Thanks Nigel. We did a review on the Hatsan 900X Breaker a little while ago if that's of interest czcams.com/video/YN-oAWJCVTE/video.html
Puts that Lee enfield to shame đđ»đđ»đđ»
What a gun! Still got mine from '86 - I'd guess it's had 100s of 1000s through it! Still running the rather nice Japanese Apollo 5* 4x40 and Venom Silencer. Made in W Germany!
Very nice James. Best springer around in my view!
Cracking rifle Richard and good review.đđ
Quick question when is the air rifle range opening in Reading?
Hi Brendan, and thanks very much. Reading Air Target Shooting club reopened last Saturday. They are prioritising bookings for members at the moment but hope to extend that to those who want to come and have a guest shoot in the near future. The best thing to do is keep an eye on www.reading-target-shooting.org.uk for more information. Hope to see you there soon.
@@alphamilitaria2756 thanks for the reply.. Top man đ đ
Hopefully be able to get down soon for a session at the range
Stay safe and enjoy watching your videos
Hi Richard nice review as always, reminds me of by first air gun before the pcpâs came along, my first gun was a gat gun pistol gave me hours of fun just the simple things sometimes give you a warm feeling inside or Iâm just getting old lol đ regards MR.T
Thanks very much Mr. T. Everyone loves a gat gun. I spent hours shooting the fluffy darts at a dartboard!
@@alphamilitaria2756 I know there was just something about it from the little screw probe to the cocking of the the gun by pushing the barrel against a tree in my case as I was so young and needed all my weight to do it , and that my parents allowed me having it to plink in the back garden that was way before health and safety took over and children were allowed to be children and I grew up with a respect and understanding of guns it was a great time to be a child I think I Ɣill try and see if I can get hold of one,
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100% with you there .. health and safety have gone mad these days .. bring back the good old 60's & 70's I say ... I too had a gat around 1972 BUT the first pistol I shot was in ( around ) 1964 my Grandad's Diana .. bust my lip with the recoil (:I was around 4 yrs old ) mom & dad and grandparents fell about laughing .. still got the pistol , up the attic somewhere amongst 10 ton of junk ..
@@markhomer7628 Hi Mark great story made me chuckle itâs such a shame nowadays I think kids miss out on the freedoms we had back then I bought my son a pistol last year and he plinks cans at 10 yards now hits every time has great control of the gun and respect for it only trouble is getting him to stop and need to get him a paper round to pay for his pellets come to think of it donât think they exist now Iâve ordered him a npo3 as a surprise Iâll do my best to re-create my child hood in spite of the nanny state lol đ
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Can't beat a bit of " father / son " bonding , and funnily enough , this Saturday coming in going to the local RFD ( brierley guns ) where he has already laid down a deposit on a daystate huntsman regal HR , he's buying it himself , which is ok , he's 34 yrs old , married and a motorcycle engineer .. don't spend a great deal of time together , so this weekend should be good ( second hand daystate , as he is a right tightwad ) the NP03 ( seen the reviews ) is great value for money , and on that note , ive told the Mrs in determined to get the NP02 .. just like the look of it , and at just over ÂŁ300 , a bargain in my eyes
Super video, as ever. Just to let you know that the link to your website gives a not found error.
Thanks Graham. We'll look into that and appreciate you flagging for us.
Very good quality rifle. I would take it over the Enfield from your last video. It reminded me of a flying dragon brand Chinese PCP and at a similar price point. This break barrel will definitely out last it and out shoot it apparently also. Love your rifle. I would imagine it isnât stock anymore considering real shooters are never really satisfied until we put our own touches on our guns and have them the way we want them. I am curious what the FAC versions FPS rating is though...no biggie. I will look it up in a bit. Thanks and god bless.
Thanks Heath. My HW80 was restored a few years ago by Lyn Lewington who installed V-Mach innards and sleeved the chamber. He is an absolute master and the rifle shoots better now than it ever did. As for velocity, I'd image the HW80 was capable around 800+ fps in .22. Thanks again for watching.
Good review, thanks Richard. Weihrauch do so many spring powered rifles going back decades. I myself have a 77. I'd really like to hear more about the history and the difference between the different models. E.g. the 90 is gas ram is it not? Be interesting to hear how that came about!
Thanks very much Ralph. Weihrauch does indeed have a long and interesting history. The HW90 I indeed a gas ram and, as I understand it, the result of a relationship with Theoben which developed the technology originally.
Richard -- Please do a side by side comparison with old vs new HW80 or perhaps a separate video on the old one. I'd be curious to see the groupings of the MK I. Was that restrained and varnished over the years with it being well broken in? How has the barrel rifling held up?
Hi and thanks for watching. Yes, perhaps a vid on my old rifles for old times sake! The HW80 mk 1 had a lot of work (not by me I hasten to add!). The chamber has been sleeved and V-Mach internals installed. The metal work was professionally done but I did the stock myself - simply rubbed down and lots of coats of walnut oil, each one with a light wire wool rub down in between. Thanks for watching.
@@alphamilitaria2756 cracking job ,,,,,looks good
Same as mine.. Brut.. But brilliant..
A great review Richard. I owned a HW-80 in .22 when I was a teen along with a Webley Vulcan in .22. I'm now 55 and I'm looking at reliving the fun of my teenage years. I think I'll go with either the HW-95 or the HW-80 in .22. Do you have a favorite over the two? I've just subbed and thanks for sharing!
Hi. Thanks for the sub. Now there's a couple of rifles for the 80s! I had (still have) my HW80 and its as good now (better even) as it ever was. Secretly I always coveted my friend's Vulcan though. It was much lighter and I loved the simplistic efficiency it seemed to convey. Now, many years later, I bought one I realise my teenage glasses were rose-tinted. That said, the rifle has been tuned by Sandwell Field Sports and its a keeper for sure. With regards to the HW95 and HW80, both are fine rifles - certainly in the top few break barrels. The HW95 is lighter for sure, but I think the HW80 shoots a little better because it is that bit heavier. I hope that helps, and thanks again for watching.
Shouldn't over look the hw35 as well in my opinion.
A great carabiners and good focus, for which the scope is mounted on a double mount. Spring carabiners should not have a single mount.
How did you find the shot cycle on the .22? I owned the â80 in .177 flavour but found the oversized piston and stiffer spring combo made it very jumpy, I eventually sold it. Your group with the .22 looks great! Perhaps I should have gone with the .22....
Hi Steve. I've only ever shot the .22 but have heard the .177 can be a little harsh. My rifle, the mk 1, has been tuned and modified, but the test rifle was standard and very smooth - a little twangy like a lot of Weihrauchs, but the firing cycle was great. And accurate too. Thanks for watching.
hi richard thanks for another good vid iv'e been looking at getting a hw 95 now after watching your review the hw80k looks a good contender.i noticed a bit of a twang from the hw95 is that something that could be fixed at home or a gunsmith only .Thanks
Thanks Darren. To be honest, a lot of Weihrauch's twang, but its largely noticeable by you as the shooter because your ear is so close to the action. Its easily fixed with a bit of a home service and some proper lubrication. But if you're in any doubt, a gunsmith will be able to sort it for you for a moderate outlay. Thanks for watching.
I have a hw95 i would defo recomend it i had the internals polished (tuned) its a tac driver very smooth and accurate with zero twang
Can you get Orion sights for that? I like the one that comes with the iron sights!
Hi - yes the HW80 is sold with open sights.
Enjoyed your vid, must point out Beeman R1 not made in the USA, I am sure Bob would be thrilled to hear you say so but not true they were built in Germany for Beeman who wanted a larger budget HW35 which is why the 80 has no breech lock like the 35 or the 50t. which it could have done with when shooting at the higher power levels.Bob was oft to be found claiming he designed the 80 but in truth his contribution was to ask for a more powerful version of the 35.I have heard it said but cannot confirm that bob ranted and raved and stomped his feet when Herman Weihrauch told him he could not have a walnut stock and fancy barrel latch at his price point. certainly Hermans account of the deal differs from Bobs. ?Both can be heard giving their versions on video so you can make up your own minds..
Thanks for that Dave.
Great video Richard.
What would be the best break barrel to own the hw95 or the HW80
Thanks Brendan. Both are superb rifles. The HW95 is lighter but I think the HW80 shoots a little better because it is heavier. Many will disagree! But if weight is an issue, the HW95 is a better option. If not, I'd say HW80. Good luck, Rich.
I have a 1991 HW80, has a delrin sleeve and guide, l found the best suited pellets are FTTs 14.6 grain, it's really consistent and very accurate at 21/ft/lb
I know someone with a new 80, there just not as well engineered as the older ones, bluing definitely better on older Weihrauch's also,
Great rifle. If you are in the UK I take it you have the HW80 on an FAC?
@@alphamilitaria2756 It is, l think the 80 does not shoot right unless they fire at what they was designed to, 99s 95s shoot better under 12ft/lb.
@@6lr6ak6 I'm with you on that. Designed to run up to 26ft/lbs I think. The chamber on my 1980s mk1 .22 has been sleeved to take a 12 ft/lbs spring. The issue otherwise is that with a bigger chamber for a bigger spring, a 12 ft/lbs spring goes up and down as well as backwards and forwards! Great rifles...Thanks for watching.
@@alphamilitaria2756 Yes the 80s need the fatter spring, 3.6 wire, otherwise the springs say from a 95 or 97 struggle pushing the big 30mm piston, mine gets it's power from a Titan spring, but it's important to have a tight guide, and the piston must be sleeved, which will not just make it a lot smoother shot, but also stop the spring bending, lasting much longer, Venom used to machine the guide into the trigger block, I'm not sure if they did any work to the piston, or the size of the transfer port. But yea the older 80s definitely better.
Hi Richard, I enjoyed your video on a real classic spring gun. I've got an HW80K with a soft spring conversion that shoots very well. There is no doubt that it will give pleasure forever if looked after, which doesn't take much effort after all. However, I do believe though that Weihrauch made the rifles that Dr Robert Beeman imported into the United States. I think that the Americans owe him a debt of gratitude! Thanks for the video.
Thanks very much Terence...
A review of the HW99S would also be a big hit on here I think.
Thanks Harry. We'll add it to the list. Did you see our review of the HW80K? And we're hoping to get our hands on an HW90 soon. Thanks for watching.
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Yes, I've seen many of your videos mate.
Not really into PCP, but love watching your springer videos. đđ»
Hi Richard, thanks for this video,I really still prefer a good springer, they give me a lot of pleasure.I have experienced some of the best PCP on the market,I like it, but I always have a feeling that they are soulless weapons,it's like exchanging my car for an electric one,one of these days I will end up buying a good PCP. probably yes.cheers.
They are definitely more rewarding to shoot well. Thanks for watching Luis.
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Hello Richard, thankyou for replying to my message. I've just purchased a modern, HW 80k air rifle. I've wanted one since I was at school, now 50 years old, though through circumstance didn't allow this. I love it, really pleased with it, and learning artillery hold among lots of other things, theories etc.
I've found out a lot of people are purchasing the HW 95, instead of the 80, because the 95 is lighter than the 80, but with the same power output. I'm going to work hard with my 80, and I'm keen, but have you heard of this opinion and if so, do you agree? Thankyou very much for your time.
Hi Ian. That's great you've managed to fulfil a lifelong ambition - good for you. The HW95 is lighter, and indeed is a great rifle with lots of fans, but many also think it is too light and has a tendency to leap about. The HW80 on the other hand, thanks to the extra weight is a lot easier to control in my experience. And its not that heavy in any case - plenty of rifles as heavy of not heavier. I managed to shoot pigeons and squirrels out of trees freehand as a kid so it can't be that bad! My 1983 mk 1 is as accurate as anything else in my gun safe. Enjoy your new rifle Ian, its a cracker...
@@alphamilitaria2756 Hi Richard, thankyou for a very positive, informative, kind reply. Yes, I wanted a good air rifle all my life. My Dad was fiercely keen on air rifles all his life. Not just shooting them, but working on them, and mending them too. Obviously owning one when he was young, in a semi rural location was far different to what it is today, unfortunately. We lost our much loved father over three years ago now. There was so much I could have learned from Dad, but he was a very shy, private man, happy in his own company and not really being fond of crowds. I'm hoping to join a local rifle club soon, not just to learn to shoot, but hoping to be able to learn how to service my rifle, as I've always looked after my belongings and kept them in tip top nick. With great respect to people posting footage on U tube, judging by some having to turn off their comments, I guess some don't agree with what they're doing. One guy did a great looking service to his springer, then fired it with no pellet inserted. I couldnt believe It. I'd never do that, especially not on U tube, though some do it for fun!
Thankyou again Richard for your generous, informative, interesting advkce, I enjoy reading it, Ian.
@@ianwoods1384 What a great way to continue remembering your late father Ian. I'm sure he'd be pleased you are carrying on his love of air rifles.
@@alphamilitaria2756 Hi Richard. Can I ask you please? We often find, goods manufactured in yesteryear seem to be far better made, far sturdier than our modern day equivalents. Do you think my HW80k will be as good as yours, eventhough your rifle was manufactured in the early 80's?
Thankyou, Ian.
@@ianwoods1384 Well, the good thing is that not much has changed with the HW80 in all the years its been made Ian. There's a definite case of rose tinted glasses with my HW80; I can't ever remember missing, but I know I did...and often! My HW80 has also been tuned, which of course helps, so whilst it is old tech, it has the benefit of modern know how. The HW80 is a legend and for good reason. Enjoy.
Hi great video . Is it just the spring that makes a spring rifle have fac power or is there more involved
Hi. Thanks very much. The spring is the main component that influences power, but other factors will help as well - polishing various components etc. but mainly the spring.
@@alphamilitaria2756 so without an FAC you can't buy anything over 12ftlb but you can separately buy a stronger spring making your gun illegal ......but risky if you get caught ..... just how much power do you need to humanily kill a rabbit their skull is paper thin .
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Great gun but should have a proper ambidextrous stock for us leftyâs đ
What bag is that you're resting on? Looks just like what I'm looking for. Thanks.
Its just a bog standard Caldwell bag, filled with rice. Thanks for watching.
Hi Richard, really enjoy your review on a lot of HW breakbarrels.. I kinda indecisive between HW80k and HW77.. I read your comment that underlever are more accurate. But the option available in my country now is new HW77 (usd 800) and 2nd HW80k (usd 560). I only have budget for 1 breakbarrel, and really want to have 1 that I can keep forever :). Kind of eyeing on HW30 too.. could you please share your thought about this. Btw, subs already (Y) :)
Hi Blu. Thanks very much for watching and for subscribing. I think the HW80 is just about the best break barrel on the market right now. I've had one since the early 80s and it's as good as anything else I've shot. The HW77K is simply an awesome underlever too. They are both top of their game and it really comes down to whether you want a break barrel or underlever. The HW30 is a lovely rifle but only puts out 7-8 ft. lbs. The HW80 was originally designed in the US as the Beeman R1 for 20+ ft. lbs. so if you live in the US you may be able to find a rifle at that kind of output which might be an attraction. Good as they are straight out of the box, Weihrauchs respond well to professional tuning, removing any 'twang' and making a great rifle a fantastic one. Perhaps go the HW80 route with a professional tune for the same money as an HW77K? Either way, you can relax knowing you have bought one of the best springers available. Good luck! Rich.
You should try field target trophy's in the 80k bet you would half that group size....
Hello. Thanks for the video. Would you know where I can find a source to purchase a new Hw80k?
Hi. Assuming you are based in the UK, Hull Cartridge is the official importer. Alternatively, there are a couple of retailers who will facilitate door-to-door delivery, although you will need to provide proof of ID/age. Pellpax and DAI Leisure do this. Good luck, and great choice of rifle! Just mention our name would you?
I've bought one recently but it's rusting on the barrel and above the stock. Any tips?..... Great review by the way!
Thanks very much, and thanks for watching. I'm guessing you've bought an older rifle second hand rather than a new one. If it is new then take it back to the shop you bought it from. If its a used rifle then obviously it depends on how bad the rust is. If it is just light, surface rust you will be able to remove it with very fine iron wool (go easy) and then oil the rifle. If the rust is more serious/pitted then you should consider getting the rifle re-blacked - your local gunsmith/gun shop will be able to help you there. The rust will have to be sanded out and the rifle re-blacked. You can buy a DIY kit, but in all honesty you'll likely be disappointed with the finish. A professional re-blue won't cost the earth. In terms of keeping your rifle rust-free, the clear priority is to ensure it is kept safe and secure away from children. But also try and ensure that it is not exposed to extreme fluctuation in temperature as this will cause condensation. Also try and allow some exposure to air - if you keep your rifle in a gun bag, try opening the bag a little to allow some air in. There are also some excellent moisture absorbing patches you can use, and the occasional rub down with an oily rag won't hurt either. Great rifle. Good luck.
@@alphamilitaria2756 awesome! Thank you so much!
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I got a HW8O lazerglide in 1990 in pristine condition as I moved to Canada and left it at my dads, how much are they worth nowadays..
Much depends on condition I'm afraid.
Could you please include dimensions in inches and weight in lbs for those of us not in Europe.
Hi. 42-45 inches and 8.8lbs. I hope that helps.
@@alphamilitaria2756 Yes thanks,not everyone uses metric.
Get a good scope.
Mine has destroyed two gamo ret dot scopes, and one telescopes scope, within weeks!
Is that 1060mm long with the silencer attached or without the silencer fitted?
With the silencer Steve...
@@alphamilitaria2756 Thanks.
Definitely,,,,,Beeman R1 ,
Hello sir . I have weihrauch 80 .22 , and I need scope and mount , What do you recommend, sorry for my language đ
Hello and thanks for watching our channel. The HW80 is a great rifle and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. With regards to a scope, it really depends on what your budget is. We recently reviewed three scopes costing less than ÂŁ150 - any of them would be great on an HW80: czcams.com/video/waOLuSpq8qw/video.html. The most important thing is to buy a scope that has the ability to adjust the parallax as this will enable you to focus on targets at different distances. We sell a few scopes on our website. One of my favourites is the MTC Mamba Ultralite alphamilitaria.com/shop/mtc-mamba-ultralite-3-10-x-40-scb2/. The HW80 is a fine rifle but is quite heavy. As the name suggests, the Ultralite is not very heavy yet has all the features I look for on an air rifle scope. I hope that helps.
Is it possible to buy now an FAC rated model of this rifle please ?
Hi Derek. Yes indeed. In fact the HW80 was originally designed to deliver 20+ f/lbs and performs well at that level. From what I understand the .22 option is more pleasant to shoot at that kind of power though. Hull Cartridge will be able to give you more information. Thanks for watching. www.hullcartridge.co.uk.
Great video, but sub 12 FT LB rifles donât really correlate with what we are shooting on this side of the pond.
Thanks very much. I can only live in one place though! We've done a few reviews of high powered rifles too that might be of interest...
Whatâs the best springer air gun
Now there's a loaded question! Weihrauch, Air Arms or BSA are generally considered to make the best spingers just now...
any info about the ox springs?
Yes. Don't use them as they'll ruin your rifle. You're much better off getting a V-Mach, Welsh Willy or Tinbum kit. Or sending your rifle to a professional tuner. I recommend Lyn Lewington at ARC Tuning 07974 230549 / airrifletuner@hotmail.com / www.arctuning.co.uk
Side by side against the Hw95 would be good
HI Jamie. Both are great rifles. Personally I prefer the HW80. It's heavier, but I think that helps manage the recoil. Thanks for watching.
@@alphamilitaria2756 i like the hw80 but it was built for the fac market and.the hw95 wasn't.
I shot a 95 in 177 but it was harsh until it was venom tuned.
The finish inside was shocking.
I think the pellets are not right i can shoot better groups with b2 a little adjustment and better my hw80k liked lots but the best pellets i found Rws superdomes.
Or perhaps you're just a better shot Stephen?
Hi , can I know best scope for hw 80
Hi. These might help: alphamilitaria.com/air-guns/air-rifles/scopes/
czcams.com/video/waOLuSpq8qw/video.html
What is the make and magnification of the scope?
Hi John. It's a Richter Opitk. Reviewed here: czcams.com/video/waOLuSpq8qw/video.html and here: alphamilitaria.com/air-guns/air-rifles/scopes/best-air-rifle-scopes-under-150/
@@alphamilitaria2756 Thank you for that.
Another quick question. Just ordered a Weihrauch HW 80 SLK today because of your video. Live in USA and ordered it from Krale (Netherlands). Will be my 3rd purchase from them. This model has the shorter barrel length, better checkering and sights. With all this said, what size scope rings do you think I would need to see over the sights, Medium or large size? Thanks again
Can you use it without the scope?
Hi. I believe it is possible to buy an HW80 with open sights. The K model though comes with a silencer and no open sights. Best to check with your gun shop first.
@@alphamilitaria2756 thank you for your response and merry christmas
You're welcome. Have a good Christmas too...@@AWZ3153
Hw80 or hw97k?
Hi.
I think the HW80 is just about the best break barrel. But I prefer the HW77 over the 97!
It's a personal choice and all three are superbly accurate rifles, especially the fixed barrel underlevers.
Which do you prefer?
That silencer looks a different design to the previous model, looks like a push on instead of the standard screw on type, I was hoping to get some information regarding this but you skipped reviewing the barrel and silencer all together???
Perhaps you didn't get to 3:11 when I explained the silencer is Weihrauch's own design and is attached via a 1/2 inch UNF thread. Perhaps you skipped that part?
@@alphamilitaria2756 Thanks for the reply, do you know if the silencer on the rifle in this video is threaded or Push on?
@@ManiacInTheShed It screws on to a 1/2 inch UNF thread (03:11)
@@alphamilitaria2756 Thanks for that I feel like a twat for missing that part of the video! But greatful that you got back with the information I needed because I was worried it was a push on and not threaded on because I have bought a new/used 2021 model barrel that is on its way to me in the post. Thanks.
@@ManiacInTheShed No worries Christopher. Enjoy your new rifle...
There is a nice shop in america that does springs for these 20 ftp plus but do make sure you have fac.what you need a licence oh crap.well done sir.
That's what they were designed for.
So how do you get rid of the twang?
Hi Stephen. Usually stripping down and re-lubricating does the trick. There are several online tutorials to help. If you want to go the whole hog, you could fit a replacement spring, guide, top hat etc. V-Mach and Tin Bum make some I believe, and no doubt others too.
@@alphamilitaria2756 Yeah I'd like to see tutorial footage if I can find any. Is that lubricated with gun oil or gun grease? I'm guessing a load of grease on the spring may help dampen the twang?
@@MrRockstar1968 Hi Stephen. In fact I think its the other way around,. Manufacturers tend to shove a lot of grease in to make sure nothing rusts and much of the time its a case of removing the muck and applying the right amount of the good stuff. Take a look at this, it will give you a good idea: air-rifle-tuning.com/v-mach/Products_and_Information.html
@@alphamilitaria2756 Thanks.
Beeman are the American import models, always been Weihrauch
I can't speak to the entire range but the HW80 was a Beeman R1 first, HW80 second...
@@alphamilitaria2756 I can't recall the video (will post if I find it) where someone walked through some research on this topic and it appears that mr. Beeman approached Weihrauch with a technical design for this specific magnum air rifle and based on that Weihrauch produced the HW80/R1 that was marketed as the Beeman R1 in the US and marketed as the HW80 outside the US based on agreements between the two companies.
Chronograph?
Sorry I didn't include that. UK legal limit you can expect north of 560 fps in .22.
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*Germans pronounce the Weihrauch name as "VAI-RAU"*
Jolly good. If I was German, I probably would too. Thanks for watching.
Seems expensive for what you get.
Very few break barrels are better than the HW80 Howard...
@@alphamilitaria2756Fair enough but for 30 odd quid more I can get a TX200, or for 40 quid less an Hw 97, both of which are reputedly the best break barrels you can buy?
@@howardvarley8795 Hi Howard. That's true, but the HW97 and Air Arms TX 200 are both underlevers rather than break barrels. Fine rifles though. We've reviewed them both on the channel if that's of interest.
@@alphamilitaria2756 See that shows my lack of knowledge. I'm looking for a higher quality and more accurate rifle than I currently have and I'm getting more confused with every youtube review I watch. ÂŁ600 is a lot of money to spend on the wrong gun.
@@howardvarley8795 That is true Howard. If you want to drop me an email on rich@alphamilitaria.com I'd be happy to help.