Making A Jointer - The FIRST Cut!
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Can’t wait until you put the handle on it and use it as a large hand power plane in a Furious POV video!
To all 'John Heisz' supporters: why don't we all put in some money and buy John a really nice jointer, and any other tool for that matter. His content is amazing. His wit and intellect are one of a kind. And he really does deserve more than what youtube pays him for this type of knowledge. Thanks John for all you do. I've been watching for years and wish I had 1% of your skills.
You're a genius sir and would be glad to pitch in. I don't want to see a fellow carpenter struggle with that machine anymore. But if he wants to complete his project I know it will be as good as gold when done. John is one of those guys who can accomplish anything in his visions.
I'm not part of the safety police, but I must admit I did have sweaty palms watching those tests. Nice job on the build!
It really is the only tool where I use push blocks every single time I do face jointing. I saw a reddit post of someone with a completely mangled hand, all the way up passed the knuckles. The board shot out under his hands, he was pushing the wood down hard, with the wood gone, he basically shoved his hand right into the fucking blade :/ It sends shivers down my spine. He will never do that again. Or most things. Thinking this scares me safe.
It's very different than with a table saw. Many times you can position your hand in such a way that if the board kicks out under you, your hand will just hit the fence/table.
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Looking awesome!
Built the table saw fence from your plans and it turned out amazing. Worth every penny!
i find it amazing you actualy doin a jointer that big from scratch, its normal you take your time to get it right. Big thumbs up
John use glass for the beds. It's perfectly flat, durable, won't rust, and easy to clean. It's easier and cheaper for people to find a pane of glass too.
Looking good! I found that dull blades made me think my Grizzly jointer's tables were messed up. Couldn't get flat boards. Problem went away with new sharp blades.
Great video. It's amazing how hard it is to get something truly flat. The idea that precision tools existed hundreds of years ago always blows my mind.
The problem with aluminum is that it can leave black marks on the wood - Years ago Stanley tried to make aluminum planes and had a lot of complaints. i believe you mentioned your tops were hot rolled - I would suggest trying cold rolled stock before the aluminum. .
Glenn Worton good point on it marking. John kinda inspired me to look for steel plate for my router table. A piece of 6mm cold rolled for the jointer is about £80 in the UK.
Coating the aluminum with wax or water based poly will stop it from rubbing off on the wood. The base of hand-held electric planers are all raw aluminum
I'm of the thought that to just find the high spots on the hot rolled. Put some bluing on the table and run stock over it. Hit the high spots with a belt sander. It could be that I just like to try and fix things before moving on. John has been on this project for a while, I'm sure all of this has been ruminated.
I was beginning to wonder when you would fire it up.
The smile you cracked when you said "Fire it up" was priceless.
That expression is what makes building your own tools worth it.
In the end, the money spent isn't a important as the satisfying completion of a DIY project and being happy with the results.
Now if the results don't make you happy...well...go buy. lol
Nice work John!
So satisfying the way the running machine sounds a nicely in tune perfect 5th.
It looks great. Thank you for sharing.
Incredibly arduous task to get so far! Well done keep it up!
First cut first Legend.
Congrats and can't wait to see future projects.
Nice modification to the adjuster on the infeed table. It's amazing when you're designing something, that if you take a break from it and then come back, that usually a simpler solution just smacks you in the face and you have that ”I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier" moment. Great job on the video.
Good work ! Is always satisfactory to see the end of the tunnel after a long project is burning you.Thanks for sharing !
It's looking good John. Keep us posted on the next steps.
Awesome - glad to see you got the bug to move forward on this. After your prior comments on the beds I am surprised you didn't swap them out already - but (at least in what we can see in thw video) it certainly doesn't look horrible for just making a reference face.
Keep showing the progress of this one please. Very impressed!
my little INCA jointer is from the 60's I think, and it's still going strong with aluminium top. I spray so teflon on it occasionally, it dries and becomes very slippery surface.
This is one awesome build. It’s great to see it finally cutting something. I would want a guard over those pulleys, personally. Especially considering they are close to crotch height. 😃
John! Maybe you can throw the steel sheets into a wide belt sander to give them some strokes. As long as they are thick enough not to be more twisted by the heat! I have done it successfully :-)
It's looking good! Keep it up and don't let these steel sheets bump you!! Thx for sharing your experiences...
You do some cool stuff. Not sure why you make all these tools but whatever your reason, it’s cool with me. Maybe just because you can.
I really like how your shop is coming together
That thing is going to be an affordable game changer for your shop. I've been looking for an old 12-"16" jointer and I have a fairly large shop, but they're freaking huge. Being able to get stock 'flatt-er' before running it through the planer is going to be amazing. Well done. Looking forward to seeing more progress/testing. I've got this 15" 3-knife cutterhead laying around.........
Nice to see you working on this again.
It's got a nice hum to it, like a mechanical meditative "uhm". Sounds like its not likely to drive the user nuts if used for a long time.
Looks like it good enough to get an initial flat face, then give the rest of the work to the thickness planer.
Cheers,
- Eddy
I`m proud of your even trying it
take pencil shade the the parts that you find high use your straight edge lay it on there use flashlight behind it to find the low spots. on the boards you what to flatten.
Funny you mentioned that your surface planner died and was disassembled a few years ago. Mine died last year, same issue, cutter turns but won’t pull the stock through. Unfortunately from your disassembly video, it didn’t look like the screwed up gear can be easily extracted. Else I’d have tempted to 3d print the gear using nylon filament.
So looks like it’ll end up being a dough flattener.
Nice job John. I believe that its ok to place things on the back burner and think on it a while. Often, as you have demonstrated you will come up with a better design. Good on you for your efforts! Coming along Great!
Nice work John, I've got an old broken planer with these plans name on it.
Glad to see it run. Awesome job!!
It definitely sounds good!
Can't wait to see it completed !
I love custom made tools. It's a project I cannot even think about starting something like that.
Hi John. I have an Inca jointer/thicknesser. That has (cast?) aluminium tops. I’ve had it 5 years, it was second hand before me and done a fair amount with it. Including some abuse. You can still see the machine marks in the top from when it was flattened. I doubt you’ll have any problems with using aluminium on your, for the amount of use etc.
Nice sound it has... 👍
Thanks for the video.
looking good John.
May I suggest a phenolic plastic sheet or plastic laminate as a table top. Both are very flat almost near perfect with good wear resistance
What i would do, is add more Screws to Screw down the Steel Plates. You only attached them on the sides ...if the Wood underneath is Flat ... adding more Screws will pull down the Steel Plate ... and make it rock less.
Been using the same jointer for almost 30 years, never tilted the fence even once. I never adjust the infeed table either, I pretty much leave it at 1/16 cut...
Great job John👍!
Really awesome! I wonder if someone could use corian or whichever plastic countertop or maybe even poured concrete with a polished top? It's something I was thinking about for a while now.
The belt is on the side you stand. If the motor was running backwards, could you had it installed on the back instead of changing the polarity?
Doesn't really matter were the belt is right? It could easily be covered anyway.
I have found that raw aluminium have a lot of friction. The wood does not glide very good.
Looking good, after some little tweaks here and there and the difference tops, you will be don’t and can move not to the next project...perhaps the temporary table to that will make the final table saw
Seeing you put that shim by the cutter head made me wonder if at sometime in the future it could come out an hit it if not secured
Looking good John!
might be a good idea to find an old pool table slate on craigslist for the table.
John, do you offer plans for your jointer? I think i would like to take a shot at making one
Could you maybe use a thicker sheet of steel?
Some problems deserve/need to be walked away from to revisit at a later date
Proving to be a pain in the proverbial...
The unit itself looks good. 👌
A big bin underneath to catch the shavings, which I'm sure you've already thought of.
Safety grill/cover over the belt and pulley, What you got in mind for that?
Don't use hot rolled steel for anything precise, cold rolled steel is your friend!
Is there any way you could use granite? You can get off cuts pretty cheap. Would probably be a pain to shape though.
Hey John have you thought of using two pieces of granite for your tables?
Why you dont use resin to make level both tops?resin is self level
Draw squiggly pencil lines on your work face and see where it takes off the pencil. But man it sounded nice running
is good machine. the main thing that is made by own hands
Do you think it would be feasible to get the steel plates ground flat by someone who has a surface grinder?
Hi John, how are you?
Very nice project! By the way, I was looking for something similar to build here for me and itś amazing how you focus on the details. Congratulations!
But I look in your website and I couldn't find the plan for this jointer. I would love to but it. Could you send the link for me, please? Thank you very much
it sounds sweet
Hey John,, when are you going to offer the plans on this unit?
That's encouraging. Keep at it.
Old-School dust collection 5:29
This is amazing.
Awesome build, John. You must have TONS of hours tied up in this project. I noticed you were attempting to flatten the steel table tops and was wondering. Could you use a thinner sheet steel, maybe even stainless and epoxy it down to the sub base? I assume you are using MDF or some other material of known flatness under the steel.
Great job, all around. You certainly have more patience than me to pursue a project that long.
What size are the pulleys I’ve been thinking of building one myself and I would like to use an induction motor and not use the motor out of my mastercrap planer the brushed motor is too loud
can you use the top off of your old table saw it should be flat
I like it.
John, looking very nice! I wonder if the old table saw top would support a metal (or wooden) surface for this.
I was going to ask the same question. This is why we read the comments before typing.
Pretty cool John, nice to see it running.
You may as well use glass, like you said someone suggested. People would start yelling how it's going to break and kill your mom's cat, because that's how their neighbour's daughter's boyfriend's dad died, but it would look cool. I mean, you already have a tool to drill small holes in glass to fasten it...
What about plexiglass? or a countertop material like corian? Should be easier to get a flat piece of that stuff
Vlad G plexi glass is a terrible idea. But actual glass or even stone would be cool. Not easy, but cool.
And "flat" needs to be defined. It's a wood jointer so getting flatness to 0.005 is not critical. I'm sure John will fix the flatness issue in short order. Even using, melamine like Vlad suggested should be enough.
I know this is a vid for the jointer, however iv been looking for the reason you dismantled your table saw and are rebuilding it. did it break, Motor went bad? Just wanted to make a new table saw?
I think the main reason he took the metal saw apart is so he actually starts/finishes the wooden saw. lol
Dont build a tiltable fence. I did - it took way too long. And it stays on 90° all the time.
That's impressive, for a football table ;)
What do you do with all your sawdust? just curious...
John, for what it’s worth, i think you should try the aluminum-if the aluminum still isn’t 100% flat, you could mill it down using a quick’n dirty router sled jig (assuming you have a router). People don’t think routers can cut aluminum but they do just fine at a few thousands depth of cut at low RPM’s. The reason a lot of hobby CNC machines have trim routers.
Looks so frustrating to get it precise. Respect. Love the build man and can’t wait to see the final version!
I know this might go against your idea of building it yourself but I am sure there's a machine shop near you that could get you a thick piece of steel and get them to make it flat. It might cost you a couple of dollars but you will not regret it. I mean a 12 inch jointer would cost a fortune so why not spend a couple of brown ones (100$) and get it fixed.
LOL, you left a link to the video you mentioned in the video.... you get a thumbs up just for that ;-)
are you going to post your sketchup file for this project or sell plans
Looking good! .. but surely, if you're going to build a jointer, you'd at least go out and buy a proper straight edge? the 3ft Veritas ones are $50. Save you a lot of grief?
Not sure what you were doing with the dial indicator. Moving over the round cutting head would show you nothing the way you were doing it.
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I know what you could do use granite! or, big cast steel slabs that you grind flat. Maybe like a total of 72" or even 76". On that note seriously has anyone ever purchased anything from Toolots? they have 10" and 12" jointers long and short beds for right around $1000 bucks? Im thinking of doing it.
Purchase precision ground 1/4" THK Low Carbon Steel Plates From McMaster Carr . Problem Solved.
"...I've been missing evety part of this jointer build video Senor John...But makes it unhappy if you will just use it for two hours per month.. !"
What about that old table saw top? To heavy?
That is rusting out in his yard
Yea I know it would be heavy but it’s flat. Cast iron wouldn’t warp when your cut it.
why not the old top of a cast iron table saw thats been machines flat ???
Why the three question marks? Does that imply that you think it's obvious and I'm stupid not to do it? Well???
:)
Look at a table saw top closer and I'm sure you'll come up with at least one reason why it's not suitable for this.
John Heisz - I Build It but John, who wouldn't want miter slots on their jointer???
NO the three question marks do not imply that your stupid ,if you where i wouldn't buy your plans ,i was simply stating it was machined flat ,and you've cut melt up in the past ,why not cut up an old cast top side wings into a useable size and as you said in your table saw fence video ,cast is easy to drill and tap ,thought it would make it easily adjustable if you tack welded blots to your 1/4 inch plate on the underside making them accessible from the sides where your cams are now to fine tune the surface , you had two or three old table saws in the pass when you made your last table saw ,and if it makes Tom happy you can use the miter slots sections ,you do get a little anal from time to time ,but that is expected from someone who is very good at what they do,and you are good so i will continue to buy your plans ,if you want to use some polished marble slabs for it i send you some for free ,but you pay the shipping huh,there's no miter slots in them Tom : )
I'd consider using the old top if it didn't have the miter slots and the big hole for the saw blade insert, but there are other problems.
It's not actually perfectly flat - cheap cast iron table saw tops rarely are.
It has ribs underneath and other protrusions that would have to be dealt with so that it could be fastened to a support frame.
It's too thick and would require a radical redesign of the jointer.
In other words, not a very suitable material to use.
Well with what your using now its still level enough to balance a beer on ,but make mine a whiskey
Sounds nice tho :)
You've talked/thought about using glass the other day... Ever thought about Granirex tile? granirex.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Schody-10.jpg
There's a strange whine to the machine... oh wait, it's that sound the safety trolls make
Опасно так у привода открытого работать !!!!
What is your address. I will send you some push blocks.
👍👊
Anyone else think thats sounds terrifying
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