The Best Goalie to NEVER Play in the NHL - The Story of Vladislav Tretiak

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  • čas přidán 24. 11. 2018
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Komentáře • 84

  • @pvfmemes
    @pvfmemes Před 5 měsíci +7

    People don’t understand how impressive a 3.00 GAA during that time was

  • @ms.felonystrutter2472
    @ms.felonystrutter2472 Před 5 lety +24

    Tretiak created a stance/styel called:"THE CRAB" it is Illustrated in his goaltending book I have from 1984. No one has used since.

  • @TheDuckseason
    @TheDuckseason Před 5 lety +28

    VLADISLAV TRETIAK trained Eddie Belfour for years and years....That is why Eddie Changed his # to 20.

  • @angelo66bc
    @angelo66bc Před 4 lety +12

    Dec. 31, 1975 game between the Habs and Red Army: 38-13 the shots on goal in favor of the Montreal Canadiens (a team that would go on to win the next 4 consecutive Stanley Cups). But a 3-3 tie due to the great play of Tretiak. The Montreal fans giving a Soviet goaltender a standing ovation after the game is one of those rare, transcendental moments in the world of sports.

  • @HFSswfl
    @HFSswfl Před rokem +2

    When I was playing high level goal in my teens many years ago, training from Tretiak’s book brought my play level higher than it ever was!

  • @davisvaldovskis2717
    @davisvaldovskis2717 Před 3 lety +5

    if you score on tretiak, keep the puck, cuz it doesnt happen often.

  • @bradleyupdyke9492
    @bradleyupdyke9492 Před 5 lety +4

    one of my favorite hockey players... he didn't get to make it to the NHL but he coached and made some of today's best goalies by giving them his knowledge...

  • @tendymusic9095
    @tendymusic9095 Před 2 lety +4

    I’ve been a goalie my entire life and I think that tretiak was by far the best goalie to ever live and the reason the goalies don’t use his style is that tretiak was the only one who could do it

    • @kyledorsty906
      @kyledorsty906 Před 2 lety

      Quick is about as close to tretiak as could be done

    • @kyledorsty906
      @kyledorsty906 Před 2 lety

      Quick is about as close to tretiak as could be done

  • @saadahmad9736
    @saadahmad9736 Před 5 lety +3

    Dude your videos are so interesting, honestly. Lots of people tackle certain recent hockey videos but I love how you dive deep into hockey history that I very much did not know, like I did not know who Vladislav Tretiak was until now. I'm such a proud father.

  • @petervanlafluer3402
    @petervanlafluer3402 Před 5 lety +6

    Good Video I only know about Tretiak cause I saw the miracle movie which is a pretty good hockey movie

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      Yeah man I own it on DVD its a great film. Hopefully ya leaned somethin man.

  • @kreir
    @kreir Před 5 lety +5

    I'll admit I'm not a big hockey fan but your videos are very good.
    The editing is on point and you have the perfect explaining.

  • @WarioSaysSo
    @WarioSaysSo Před rokem +2

    Vladislav Tretiak of the Sovietunion is undisputed THE greatest goalkeeper of all times on international ice = the greates goalie that never played in NHL!
    # Drafted 138th overall, 1983 by the Montreal Canadiens.
    # 16 years of professional hockey in Sovietunion all with the CSKA Moscow.
    # 3x Olympic gold medalist + 1 Olympic silver medal.
    # 10x IIHF World Championship gold medals + 2 silver medals + 1 bronze medal.
    # 1 Canada Cup Championship gold medal + 1 bronze medal.
    # 3x IIHF World Championhip Best Goaltender Award; 1974, 1979, 1983
    # 3x IIHF World Championship Media All-Star Selection; 1975, 1979, 1983
    # 117 International Championship games played,
    # 13x Soviet Hockey Championships League titles (CSKA Moscow)
    # 5x League MVP.
    # 13x First All-Star Selection in the Soviet League - consecutively from 1971 till 1984.
    # 482 League games played.
    # First player born and trained outside North America to be inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
    # Numerous Soviet & Russia civil honor achivements; including the prestigues Order of Lenin and Order of Honour etc.

  • @Swoop187OG187
    @Swoop187OG187 Před 5 lety +2

    I'm a Hawks fan, and Tretiak not only coached Belfour but he coached Hasek too.. And it was funny because the Hawks wanted to sign Tretiak in 1990 to play, so had that happened the Hawks would have had Hasek, Belfour and Tretiak - arguably the 3 best goalies of all time - and without question 3 of the top 10 ATG's...

  • @zac1002
    @zac1002 Před 5 lety +1

    very informative video! thank you

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      Thanks man! Glad ya enjoyed. Its awesome being able to teach people new things and learning a bit myself while making these vids.

  • @seasonstudios
    @seasonstudios Před 9 měsíci

    Tretiak was a renaissance man by emulating the great Canadian goalies of the 50's and 60's with his stand up style coupled with his ability to switch to a butterfly style at a moment's notice. He took the very best of the Canadian styles and honed them into a style of his own. He was very analytical and scientific (if you will) about the job of stopping the puck. He once said that a goalie's job is to stop every shot. He's probably rarely going to do that but it still remains his job. That is a pretty good goalie philosophy. If a shot gets by you, you should briefly think about why it happened and what you should do or could do the next time around. But like most goalies he has had his share of terrible nights between the posts and that is something a lot of us would never have the chance to see at the time. Phil Esposito rolls his eyes and laughs when people say how good he was. Phil thinks he's one of the worst goalies he ever faced. Was that comment tongue in cheek? Espo maintains it wasn't. I think he was a pretty darned good goalie along side Dzurilla the Czech goalie of the 76 Canada Cup. Sure the game has changed a lot and you don't see many real stand up goalies anymore. Today's NHL goals seem to be scored high while the goalies are down on their knees.

  • @September2004
    @September2004 Před 2 lety +2

    Tretiak was offered a contract with the Canadiens in February 1984 which was also the month that Tretiak retired.
    If he did go to the Canadiens, would Roy still be a franchise player with the Canadiens? Discuss.

  • @markhirstwood4190
    @markhirstwood4190 Před 2 lety +2

    Tretiak and Bill Ranford are my two favourite goalies.

  • @boneail94
    @boneail94 Před 5 lety +1

    I always enjoy your vids dude

  • @stevenloeffler1266
    @stevenloeffler1266 Před 5 lety +2

    Great video! You should do a video on thr punch up at piestany

  • @trisgilmour
    @trisgilmour Před 4 lety +5

    I think if he came over he would have carried a team to multiple cups

  • @ms.felonystrutter2472
    @ms.felonystrutter2472 Před 4 lety +4

    "THE CRAB" and the only goalie to ever his the Tretiak tecnhique in the NHL was his student MARTIN BRODEUR. Also Tretiak's GAA in the 72 Summit and 70's were not bad.goaltending was MUCH different in the 70's. Also like Grant Fuhr he mae the KEY saves at the right time.

    • @raymonwhite3340
      @raymonwhite3340 Před 6 dny

      I was thinking to myself that Brodeur played a variant of Tretiak's style when the video said nobody uses it.
      Tretiak had an impressive international career, and it would have been interesting to see him play.
      I often wonder if the "Miracle on Ice" would have come to fruition if the Soviet coach had not pulled Tretiak so early.
      Great video!

  • @Bk6346
    @Bk6346 Před rokem

    Before the 1972 Summit Series the NHL sent 2 scouts from the Maple Leafs to scouts the Soviet hockey players. They said Tretiak was no good.

  • @j.peters1222
    @j.peters1222 Před 3 lety

    Oh and I got a great topic for a future video you might be interested in. You could do a story on what happened to Terry Sawchuk. He was such a transcendent talent. He died at age 40 and the circumstances surrounding his premature death are not often discussed especially on CZcams.

  • @thomasdufresne2936
    @thomasdufresne2936 Před 5 lety +1

    Cool vid, one corrections though. Philly were already known as the broad street bullys in the early 70's prior to their game with the red army. They were also back to back stanley cup champions heading into that game, winning the cup in 74 and 75.

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      Yeah man, and what a bunch they were too... Shultz and Clarke were dominate and brutal. They were a lovable bunch imo. I love the Broad Street Bullies.

    • @markgreene6349
      @markgreene6349 Před 2 lety

      The Flyers killed them.. no team ever embarrassed the Soviets like the Flyers

  • @aubsta1
    @aubsta1 Před 3 lety +1

    He was great!

  • @hickettsisepic989
    @hickettsisepic989 Před 5 lety +1

    I think it would be nice to see a redraft of 2016

  • @ferencmarko5878
    @ferencmarko5878 Před rokem +1

    TRETIAK✌ ICON

  • @rhettjames1386
    @rhettjames1386 Před 5 lety +1

    Love it

  • @quigsplays5914
    @quigsplays5914 Před 2 lety +1

    Damn imagine Roy and tretiak on the canadiens

  • @1bert719
    @1bert719 Před 3 lety +1

    Detractors like to point out his poor end to the summit series, but neither Dryden or Esposito was much better overall. It often sounds like sour grapes by the Canadians who just totally underestimated the Soviets and were not fit for the series. Still a wonderful display of hockey by 2 passionate teams. Tretiak was the real deal though, Montreal certainly rated him, and they don't often pick duds.

  • @grantferrigan3837
    @grantferrigan3837 Před měsícem

    Greatest ever.

  • @jackodum783
    @jackodum783 Před 5 lety +4

    get a new mic my man sounds like youre recording on a potato! love the vid man very unique content

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks man, aint got much money as of now, but will work on it. Audio does sound soft and been tryna fix it for weeks lol. If ya have any recommendations let me know, it'd help allot. But thx for stopping by and appreciate the feedback

  • @TriceMendoza
    @TriceMendoza Před 3 lety +1

    1 goalie of all time is .... Dominick Hasek. Who ever seen him play u would say thank god for Replay. Because most saves he made live weren't hardly seen, until that replay showed you how this man robbed you by his big blocker while his back turned away from u lol

  • @patch8376
    @patch8376 Před 5 lety +1

    '74 was against weaker WHA, not NHL (and WHA circa '74 was weaker than WHA circa '78-79). Still significant though.

  • @thebestofhockey8684
    @thebestofhockey8684 Před 5 lety +1

    I made a vide and you were in it but I knew for some reason you wouldn't watch it or else you would have said something

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      Sorry but ya dont always gotta comment to say ya watched something. Its like sometimes ya force me to comment.....

    • @thebestofhockey8684
      @thebestofhockey8684 Před 5 lety

      no what I did was I shouted you out and told my subscribers to subscribe to you

  • @ms.felonystrutter2472
    @ms.felonystrutter2472 Před 5 lety +1

    Vladislav Tretiak DOMINATED the Philadelphia Flyers with his CCCP comrades January 1983 when they went into the Spectrum and they DESTROYED Pelle Lindbergh. In fact the Soviet National team made a habit of DESTROYING Pelle Lindbergh be it the Olympics, World Champiosnhips and NHL. In 1984 Team Sweden refused to play their best goalie, that being Lindbergh, in 1984. Slava's best back up on the National team was Vladimir Myshkin.

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      DAMN. Most ppl tend to forget this haha. Thx for watching! Hope ya enjoyed!!

    • @ms.felonystrutter2472
      @ms.felonystrutter2472 Před 5 lety +1

      I have 13 of his jerseys, every book written about him or by him and over 75 games of him on DVD, I never will forget my second fave goalie of all time. Thank you sir..@@idontgivetkachuk

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      @@ms.felonystrutter2472 np man! Very cool!! Hope ya enjoyed.

  • @pylonsports
    @pylonsports Před 5 lety +1

    tuuka rask?

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      Lol Rask played and is still playing. Definitely a top 10 goalie and is great for the Bs. Had a shot in 2013 but the Hawks pulled off a miracle. Rask is great and imo him and the Bs have 2-3 more years to have another run.

    • @kreir
      @kreir Před 5 lety

      Pylon why do I always see you? Lol

    • @pylonsports
      @pylonsports Před 5 lety +2

      @@kreir cause i like idontgive's vids

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

  • @hickettsisepic989
    @hickettsisepic989 Před 5 lety +1

    The greatest goalie of all time is Hicketts

  • @saadahmad9736
    @saadahmad9736 Před 5 lety +1

    FIRST

  • @mooch514
    @mooch514 Před 3 lety +5

    tretiak was good. But remember one thing. People forget to mention this. And give tretiak more credit than deserved in my opinion...tretiak only played international games/ tournaments...he had weeks months and sometimes a year to analyze,prepare and train for those games....if tretiak was in the nhl with a hectic schedule, travelling, injuries and fatigue...plus players getting to know his "weak spot" do you think tretiak would of been the goalie we all praise nearly 50 years now?
    Nope.

    • @lukebruce5234
      @lukebruce5234 Před 2 lety +1

      Only international tournaments? He played in the Soviet league as well. His schedule wasn't any shorter than the schedule of NHLers.

    • @mooch514
      @mooch514 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lukebruce5234 not in the nhl...he is often compared to nhl goalies. Tretiak never played in the nhl...fact. we will never know what really would happen. Fact

  • @ms.felonystrutter2472
    @ms.felonystrutter2472 Před 5 lety +1

    MARTIN BRODEUR AND VLADISLAV TRETIEK. Denis, Marty's Dad, told him got get out of the butterfly school (Allaire) and visit Tretiak. Marty became a teacher there he loved Tretiak so much. Tretiak the best Euro goalie ever (I do not want to hear Hsek, hsi glove hand SUCKED and Marty the best ever all aroud. Surprise? I think now.

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety

      Interesting! I didnt know that abour Marty... The fact he learned from Tretiak makes his dominance seem even more obvious. Thanks for sharing!! Interesting story!!

    • @blackiestallion6109
      @blackiestallion6109 Před 4 lety

      Hasek=best ever. Brodeur=overrated. Tretiak= very overrated.

    • @ms.felonystrutter2472
      @ms.felonystrutter2472 Před 4 lety

      @@blackiestallion6109 AND YOU VER VERY CLUELESS...HASEK = TERRIBLE GLOVE, COULD NOT PLAY THE PUCK, ROY PUT HIMSELF OVER TEAM CANDA 1998, DID THEY EVEN MeDAL? RoY'S lAST GAME? ROY HORRIBLE PLAYING THE PUCK MARTY PLAYED WITH THE SMALLED PADS N THE LEAGUE AND CHANGED THE GAME...NEXT

    • @ms.felonystrutter2472
      @ms.felonystrutter2472 Před 4 lety

      @@blackiestallion6109 Yeah, that is why your beloved HABS could not beat Marty or you ae a jealous NYR fan...Marty and Tretiak changed the game. Marty smallest pads in the league, Roy could not beat the overrated flyers with his two sizes too large jersey

    • @blackiestallion6109
      @blackiestallion6109 Před 4 lety

      @@ms.felonystrutter2472 I'm clueless?!? Lol. Hasek won 2 Hart Trophies, 6 Vezina Trophies, and did almost all of this after he turned 30. He didn't even start in the NHL until he was 28. Brodeur had Hall Of Fame defensemen playing in front of him (Stevens, Niedermayer), and rarely had to make a second save. In Buffalo, Hasek had "the great" Alexei Zhitnik and Jason Woolley. You are right about one thing, in 1998 Canada lost in the bronze medal game; their goaltender that game was Martin Brodeur.

  • @ozpan5540
    @ozpan5540 Před 7 měsíci +1

    in europe we knew about the russian and tretjak and the beautiful style the russian showed off but we were shocked when they met north american teams and how the tactics were to hit and hurt your ooponent and intimidate the other team . it was obvious that north american teams didnt have the poise and style or endurance to play real hockey and of course with lack of discipline and with thugs like esposito and others they indimidted and injured the oposition and thats how they won still today the nhl is based on dump and run and fihgs . of course this brings money in but to call this beautiful is ridiculous . anyway for us that grew up with the game we sa the best hockey

  • @j.peters1222
    @j.peters1222 Před 3 lety

    I've been saying this for years. If Tretiak had played professionally in the NHL, we would be talking about the best goalie of all time. It's a shame that world politics at the time prevented that from becoming a reality. Fun fact: Vladislav Tretiak and Valeri Kharlamov are the only two players inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame that never played in the NHL.

    • @XapnoMapkc
      @XapnoMapkc Před 2 lety

      Based on what? His results against NHL players were already so-so. Why on earth would we expect different results if he played a full NHL schedule?

  • @Axel-fd2ui
    @Axel-fd2ui Před 5 lety +1

    Do you believe in miracles?

    • @idontgivetkachuk
      @idontgivetkachuk  Před 5 lety +2

      Yes!!! One of the greatest if not THE greatest sport moment in American history

  • @mpm1958
    @mpm1958 Před 4 lety +1

    Vladislav Tretiak was a star against amateurs, but had mixed results against NHL players. 1972 made Tretiak a name? The best goalies come up big in the biggest games, and Tretiak could not come up with one big performance in the last three games in Russia. His name should never be uttered when discussing the greatest goaltenders of all time.

  • @konstantinkazakov2066
    @konstantinkazakov2066 Před 2 lety

    clowns))