Is money down on a car deal a SCAM? How dealers turn your cash into PROFIT!

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  • čas přidán 18. 11. 2018
  • Most Car dealers want you to put money down when financing is involved. Is that a scam? It could be. Here's what to look for when you are putting money down on your next car purchase.
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  • @fredkuhn165
    @fredkuhn165 Před 5 lety +1145

    Too bad dealers can’t figure out that they could sell more cars and spend less on advertising if they were honest

    • @kawa1755
      @kawa1755 Před 5 lety +34

      Its not about selling more cars its about profit. The sad thing is people line up to get ripped off. Every dealership is gonna fuck you there is no way around except by not participating in it. Its funny people line up to get screwed over.

    • @christopherrosas2738
      @christopherrosas2738 Před 5 lety +20

      Not all dealerships are out to screw you, but you have to educate yourself so you don't get reeled in...... There's nothing wrong with walking away from a deal...... If it's not going to work for you, you have every right and responsibility to walk away from a deal...... There's no rule saying you even have to put money down on a vehicle...... I've actually done it where I've flipped the rebates to act as my down payment..... No money out of pocket and I've walked away with a vehicle...... Of course if a dealership sees you aren't paying attention, they may set out to screw you in the end because they see they can..... That's why on my latest vehicle purchase I paid attention to down payment, monthly payment, interest rate and term...... Talked myself into a payment that works for me and didn't put down any more than I could afford and now I'm actually a bit ahead of my payment schedule because when I could afford to pay more on the vehicle, I did

    • @88thebluedemon
      @88thebluedemon Před 5 lety +15

      I can't wait for the day where everyone sells cars at the same price from warehouses and no negotiating.
      And if you don't wanna pay that price at that point, you can just go fuck yourself 😍

    • @christopherrosas2738
      @christopherrosas2738 Před 5 lety +4

      @Asniel Figueroa you would be correct....... There's no rule saying you can't walk away from a vehicle if the dealership isn't working with you or if they're being dishonest....... You should be the one controlling the deal instead of them

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 Před 5 lety +9

      Dealership owners mostly small business owners have huge debt , so they have to make a bigger profit when Democrats tax and regulate them more , happens in Australia with the left democratic socialist

  • @vcash1112
    @vcash1112 Před 5 lety +1789

    The Manufacturer should sell straight to the consumer and skip the dealer ship.......🥊

    • @youtuber6609
      @youtuber6609 Před 5 lety +46

      @ vcash holdfastThats what Tesla is trying to do, but law ban car makers from selling cars as stated by @Roscor Dogg

    • @lsimpson8307
      @lsimpson8307 Před 5 lety +60

      Roscoe Dogg i have to wonder why that is, because the dealership union sent a lobby to the state legislature? It only serves to benefit the dealership industry and not the consumers, it disenfranchises them. Maybe they donate to political campaigns. There is a reason i bought my iphone from an Apple store and not my carrier store.

    • @youtuber6609
      @youtuber6609 Před 5 lety +43

      @ray bee I think you missed the point or just skipped my comment altogether, Tesla Inc has been doing this already... they are their own manufacture and they sell cars directly to the average joe. If a car has a recall or needs warranty work done... you bring your car to Tesla Inc and they'll do it for you.

    • @youtuber6609
      @youtuber6609 Před 5 lety +4

      ​@Gus Goose a1 comment

    • @AntilleanConfederation
      @AntilleanConfederation Před 5 lety +29

      vcash holdfast got to get rid of the fucking lobby first. Money in politics is 100% legal bribes.

  • @unproven13
    @unproven13 Před 5 lety +115

    NEVER TELL THEM YOU HAVE MONEY TO PUT DOWN. Settle on a price first then tell them you have money to put down

    • @douglaswegener6463
      @douglaswegener6463 Před rokem +9

      Asking for money down is illegal. 15 USC 1605 knowledge is power

    • @theeconsciousman
      @theeconsciousman Před rokem +1

      do you need to sign anything before saying you have money to put down, could they take that offer off the table

    • @RyansReaper
      @RyansReaper Před rokem +1

      @@theeconsciousman you wait till the final itemized bill is handed over for you to review and if you agree say that and say you have money to put down.

    • @alexandreazevedo8228
      @alexandreazevedo8228 Před rokem

      I can 500 or 1000 put down any car price

    • @jasminejagger3292
      @jasminejagger3292 Před 2 měsíci +1

      If putting $ down dosen’t change the interest rate save the $ to use for payments

  • @youtubetrollking1880
    @youtubetrollking1880 Před 5 lety +1256

    Good to see Biff from back to the future turned over a new leaf and is helping folks out.

    • @youtubetrollking1880
      @youtubetrollking1880 Před 5 lety +7

      @@ChevyDude good info. I'm looking to buy a new ranger when its out early next year. I feel I've done pretty well in the past when buying vehicles, but always trying to learn new tips. Thanks.

    • @taelorwatson9822
      @taelorwatson9822 Před 5 lety +5

      What do you recommend for a wax? I've been using mothers I can't think of the type right now

    • @endocry
      @endocry Před 5 lety +18

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    • @youtubetrollking1880
      @youtubetrollking1880 Před 5 lety +12

      @@endocry lol. That was a good pull. The obscure reference gets bonus points.

    • @Hammerdownproductions
      @Hammerdownproductions Před 5 lety +6

      Chevy Dude good come back and reference.

  • @davemount2607
    @davemount2607 Před 3 lety +130

    After watching a bunch of your videos I’m about to the point of just walking everywhere as opposed to going through the whole car buying ordeal new or used

  • @michaelhorner4011
    @michaelhorner4011 Před 5 lety +48

    I once walked into a car dealership at the ripe age of 21. Looking for a used car....looked up the kelly blue book before going to look at the car. I knew they got the car for less than kelly blue book. I had them marked so low on the deal. Played with them for about 30 minutes. Was not liking the price and walked away. As I walked away, he wanted to know if I wanted a job at the dealership. I said nope I already have a job and it is not a car salesman. The buyer holds the power and the object is only worth what the buyer is willing to pay for it. Happy car shopping everyone!

  • @GaryFowler2906
    @GaryFowler2906 Před 5 lety +344

    The worst car accidents happen on the showroom floor

  • @brianschott8162
    @brianschott8162 Před 4 lety +28

    Key advice. Never negotiate on the final payment, focus on all of the prices. When they come at you with final payment value, ask to see ALL of the numbers in the math. It helps if you are fully willing to walk away at anything regarding the price that makes you uncomfortable.

  • @kfstreich4787
    @kfstreich4787 Před 5 lety +46

    When I had to negotiate as soon as the salesman acted like it was difficult I would tell them I'll give them time to figure it out and come back in 30 minutes, it flips the control from them to you.

  • @TeXasDadBod
    @TeXasDadBod Před 5 lety +132

    This makes me never want to buy a car again lol

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 5 lety +6

      Why is that? He never actually said anything. At ALL!

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 5 lety +6

      @@fredberfal1246 Yea I see your point. He is like a bitch! Out for your money, and can't be trusted. Basically worthless. However, at least a bitch actually has something to offer. Even if it's short lived. Lol

    • @1redrubberball
      @1redrubberball Před 4 lety

      I try to do it as seldom as possible. That's a reason I am more conscientious with car/truck maintenance.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 Před 4 lety

      @@amb3cog Do you work for free ?

  • @ugladden
    @ugladden Před 5 lety +58

    Never discuss a trade in or down payment until u have the price locked in

    • @CjMk4GLi
      @CjMk4GLi Před 5 lety

      How would you get the price locked in? They always wanna know what downpayment you have or what trade in. Well at least to the ones I’ve gone to

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 Před 5 lety +21

      @@CjMk4GLi
      That has nothing to do with the price, that is how you are going to pay off that set price.
      Of course they want to know that first, so they can try to rip you off 3 different ways.

    • @arizona71189
      @arizona71189 Před 3 lety

      Yep!

    • @Fume1337
      @Fume1337 Před 3 lety

      Ray Davies 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀

    • @tommak6516
      @tommak6516 Před 3 lety

      Tell them you are going to finance, then at the last minute grab the contract and tear it to shreds and pay cash. They will appreciate your candor.

  • @cecho9367
    @cecho9367 Před 3 lety +22

    I’ve been buying and leasing cars for years. I do a lot of research and calculations before even going to the dealer. I never put any money down. Not even taxes. And after making my mistakes along the way of which there were many, I’ve gotten to the point where I’m happy with the deals I get and don’t need to spend endless hours at the stealership

    • @germandelariva3754
      @germandelariva3754 Před rokem +1

      How do you do that every single dealer always asks for a DP they’re money hungry

  • @micahjohnson6719
    @micahjohnson6719 Před 4 lety +19

    If I’m putting down $4000 down on a 2010 4runner that’s $11500 and my payment per month is $319 for 36 months, that equals $11,484 in the end, so where’s my down payment going? 🤔

    • @rogersmith2036
      @rogersmith2036 Před 3 lety +6

      To their pockets and interest rate with those numbers the interest is 21.2%

  • @FrenchieFries
    @FrenchieFries Před 5 lety +9

    And that’s why Tesla is so nice. You order what you want online... no other bs don’t have to deal with a dealership. Wish other companies started doing this but it wouldn’t be good for the car dealership industry

    • @FrenchieFries
      @FrenchieFries Před 5 lety

      ohhh shit chevy dude with the tesla roast!!

  • @drwisdom1
    @drwisdom1 Před 5 lety +75

    Mr. Dude is being quite informative here but he doesn't outright state his conclusions - that the vehicle sales business employs shady practices and leasing is a scam.

    • @drwisdom1
      @drwisdom1 Před 3 lety +4

      @Mr RandomTV9000 I have only discovered one reason that makes leasing a good deal. My friend's wife wrecked her car twice. When the lease was up he was more than happy to give it back.

  • @AlanSmitheeman
    @AlanSmitheeman Před 5 lety +63

    Good grief! Purchasing a vehicle is so perilous I'll just use a skate board.

    • @CoIorful
      @CoIorful Před 5 lety +1

      AlanSmitheeman lol

    • @Jp-yd2ke
      @Jp-yd2ke Před 4 lety +1

      Lol I got my mountain and road bike... I'm good

    • @eliziocantio1111
      @eliziocantio1111 Před 4 lety +1

      For if only motorcycles could keep you dry

    • @SegaDisneyUniverse
      @SegaDisneyUniverse Před 3 lety +2

      @@eliziocantio1111 And carry more than 2 bags full of groceries, lol.

    • @SegaDisneyUniverse
      @SegaDisneyUniverse Před 3 lety +2

      For the price of an average new car, I could just invest that money into creating a device that just teleports me to my desired locations!😂

  • @normogaard5223
    @normogaard5223 Před 5 lety +69

    Best way to play their game is go in with YOUR out the door price and if they won't do it then move to another of the 5 billion dealers.
    Make sure you do your homework on the value of the cars you want for the year you want. And never play their skiing price always always cut it and NEVER COME UP WITH A PRICE First Ask THEM WHAT THEY ARE ASKING..
    And if they won't give you a price first move to another of the 5 billion dealers. Remember you have the $$$ SO YOU HAVE ALL THE POWER!

  • @tonywong8134
    @tonywong8134 Před 5 lety +15

    My dealer actually limited me to $3000 down payment. It was bs, but the interest rate was .9% so I relented. Over 3 years of my loan I'll pay about $400 in interest, but I'll pay off the car in a year.

  • @bodystomp5302
    @bodystomp5302 Před 4 lety +45

    The last time I bought a car it went shockingly smooth. I called up, gave them the stock number of the car I was interested in, offered 15% less than MSRP on a Honda Civic, not really expecting them to agree, but they did. I was at the dealership when they unlocked the door the following morning. No problems, no games. The whole process took 90 minutes, and this was from a local dealer who many people do not like.

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj Před 2 lety +10

      Count yourself lucky because alot of dealerships love to play games and toy with people's time and lives.

    • @dadreiantennyson4489
      @dadreiantennyson4489 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Andy-im3kj need a tissue?

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj Před 2 lety +16

      @@dadreiantennyson4489 Your mom needs one.

    • @CashLit
      @CashLit Před 2 lety +1

      What about taxes? let’s say the vehicle is $30,000 MSRP and you offer 15% less and taxes is 10%. Are you adding the 10% to the 30,000 or the subtracted amount, which would be $25,500?

    • @jmilz08
      @jmilz08 Před rokem

      Every squirrel finds a nut one day !! Congrats for real though lol

  • @johngriffith7315
    @johngriffith7315 Před 4 lety +29

    Keep the dealer finance department out of the transaction. I finance with my own credit union. Saves a lot of hassles.

    • @luismendoza7739
      @luismendoza7739 Před 3 lety +2

      You can get more rebate if you go through their financing

    • @luismendoza7739
      @luismendoza7739 Před 3 lety +1

      Just make sure to have a good credit score so you can get a nice interest rate

    • @bcar1ify
      @bcar1ify Před 3 lety +5

      Just finance through them to get the rebates, then within a week refinance with your own. Easy.

    • @Martell276
      @Martell276 Před 2 lety

      What if the dealership's finance department gives you 0% interest financing?

  • @carycoller3140
    @carycoller3140 Před 5 lety +20

    Your video is proof of why I don't ever trust car salesman. Every time they open their mouths they're lying.

  • @diegogonzalez9086
    @diegogonzalez9086 Před 5 lety +54

    I listened to the whole video and understood nothing.☹
    I was left the same before starting the video. Buying a car can get really tricky

    • @mohnjayer
      @mohnjayer Před 4 lety +6

      Diego González It’s not tricky at all. Buy used cars with cash. Financed new cars and ESPECIALLY leasing are both total ripoffs. This guy wants you to believe buying a car is complicated so he can sell you a car as an “ethical” car salesman. He’s not ethical, he wants you to make huge monthly payments to him just like every other salesman.
      Cash. Used cars. Nice and simple.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 Před 4 lety +2

      @Amanda G Or in your case give good head and have guys drive you around

    • @donaldspring8408
      @donaldspring8408 Před 3 lety

      @@mohnjayer Yeah it’s awesome seeing how much that car you own depreciates by the day and a ton of fun dealing with the mounting mechanical issues over time. Leasing is far superior, efficient and just flat out the smarter move. By far.

  • @billyfranco1374
    @billyfranco1374 Před 4 lety +5

    Simple recommendation, buy the car cash or finance through YOUR bank. Never ever ever finance through the dealership. They will scam you and will have a bank help them scam you for their cut.

  • @indycustommade3568
    @indycustommade3568 Před 5 lety +26

    They wonder why the are in the top 3 of the most hated people in business.

  • @mrklimczyk
    @mrklimczyk Před 5 lety +168

    Always talk price not payment!

    • @brandonmiller9423
      @brandonmiller9423 Před 5 lety +2

      Johnathan Gonzalez it’s the 21st century, he most likely knows this but would rather not be bothered to put the comma in. People literally abbreviate everything when typing... plus no one likes a grammar nazi

    • @ericmorton6893
      @ericmorton6893 Před 5 lety +9

      Johnathan Gonzalez, you forgot the period at the end of your sentence.

    • @AlanJWatkins
      @AlanJWatkins Před 5 lety

      @@brandonmiller9423 Two opposable thumbs up for grammar Nazis!

    • @David-or8oh
      @David-or8oh Před 5 lety +5

      Awesome if I can get you this car at 10,000 out the door with a 500 payment for 72 months are you ready to move forward? Since price is more important for you and your family is that correct sir?

    • @brainwashingdetergent4128
      @brainwashingdetergent4128 Před 5 lety +1

      @@David-or8oh thats exactly how it works. I just picked up a new buick didnt get the rebate scam deal. With no rebates i am paying 8k less than if I got the rebates and payed piles of intrest for the prevelage of receiving a rebate 😂😂😂

  • @Deckdefender
    @Deckdefender Před 5 lety +62

    Short of government taxes and health care buying cars the next biggest scam you'll ever have in your life

    • @fubarexress6359
      @fubarexress6359 Před 5 lety +6

      That's why I've never financed besides one time and I'll never do it again. Paying cash and not buying new and being smart witn what brands you chose to drive. If you do buy from a dealer do your research! There are honest dealerships and even honest salesmen! (Gasp)

    • @2584024
      @2584024 Před 5 lety +7

      Can't take money to the grave. If you can afford it safely, why not spend a little extra to finance a nicer car that you're gonna use every day?

    • @jamesgarrison6430
      @jamesgarrison6430 Před 5 lety +1

      Marriage

    • @dedalliance1
      @dedalliance1 Před 5 lety +1

      Buying cars is not a scam lol. Everything is upfront as long as you do your research lol.

    • @FootballRob2010
      @FootballRob2010 Před 5 lety +3

      You forgot student loans

  • @chadpugh1490
    @chadpugh1490 Před 5 lety +5

    I bought a new car about a month ago. I put 5K down. I started watching this video, dreading to hear Dude say that "Its a waste" or "don't do it". I've watched it all the way through and I can say that I think it was a good idea to put that much down. I bought a Nissan but THX CHEVY DUDE.

  • @beaulong3270
    @beaulong3270 Před 4 lety +8

    90% of the time. Depends on the lender and dealer check you get depending on someone’s credit, income, vehicle and a few other things. Sometimes it takes the down payment to make any money at all and most of the time it’s just gravy on top.

  • @derekcomingo2197
    @derekcomingo2197 Před 5 lety +25

    Why it's important to negotiate each step. And not give up all the info up front

    • @edubb2491
      @edubb2491 Před 5 lety

      Aww..i scrolled across another wise man!

  • @tvang464
    @tvang464 Před 5 lety +14

    Don't worry about the monthly payment number. If you did your math(many calculators online) before going, you already know this number and buying in a price point within your comfort zone. Hustle your final price first. Then give them the down payment. If they can get you a better rate than your bank, take it. Yes, this gives them some more profit. It's ok. It allows them to give you a better final price because they want to make profit somewhere and you're taking some profit away from them by getting a lower price on the vehicle. Sign papers, drive home.

  • @beetleything1864
    @beetleything1864 Před 4 lety +60

    You didn’t really explain why a deposit is bad. 🤷‍♂️

    • @Danny-iu1fq
      @Danny-iu1fq Před 3 lety +6

      It isn’t

    • @Fume1337
      @Fume1337 Před 3 lety +6

      Put down the minimum of 20%. If you can’t put down at least 20%, you can’t afford the car. He’s gone through this on multiple vids.

    • @allthingsconsdrble
      @allthingsconsdrble Před 3 lety +4

      A lot of words. Dude doesn’t make a single insightful point.

    • @Fume1337
      @Fume1337 Před 3 lety

      allthingsconsdrble Then you don’t fully comprehend. Re watch the videos until you get them 👍💯

    • @jessicam522
      @jessicam522 Před 2 lety

      @@Fume1337 can you please explain to me a little more in regards to a down payment on an auto loan? So, my credit union financed me 30k with a 2.9% APR for 60 or 66 months (up to me to decided) and I don’t need to put a down payment. Now if I go to a dealership and they want me to put a down payment is it smart to do so? I don’t really understand this. What’s the point of the down payment if I’m comfortable with the payments I will be making on my 30k loan from my credit union. (Not that I want or am going spend 30k) just an example.

  • @whitewaterkayaker
    @whitewaterkayaker Před 5 lety +2

    I negotiated with multiple dealers over the phone/internet. Narrowed it down to two dealers. One said we'd beat any advertised price in an email. Went to another dealer, negotiated down 3.5k to where we were about to sign the deal. I pull out that email and get them to take off another 10%, then told them I wanted to lease. I put zero down on the lease. I got a 2019 Impreza Sport with Eyesight and H/K sound system for $275/mo

  • @bobby5951
    @bobby5951 Před 5 lety +27

    This is why I wait on lease returns and buy them used. There isnt as much to worry about. Plus I used to be a new car salesman and the managers were trying to get me to do shady things to make more profit. Needless to say i quit selling and became a mechanic in the fleet industry six months later.

    • @waltbullet1287
      @waltbullet1287 Před 5 lety +5

      So damn sad a new car to buy should be enjoyable! And a great experience! Now you have to were body armor! They pulverize you! I'd. Probably like to buy again but I still sick of my last Esperiance

    • @kevinaalberts9251
      @kevinaalberts9251 Před 5 lety +5

      Your a mechanic now,and still ripping people off !!! Nice touch!

    • @bobby5951
      @bobby5951 Před 5 lety +1

      @@kevinaalberts9251 I work as a mechanic in the fleet industry you dumb ass. If you new about fleet then you would feel stupid right now. You should really think before you speak to keep from sounding ignorant.

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 Před 5 lety +2

      @@waltbullet1287
      Car dealers are the only stores that treat paying customers like crap. Well, airlines too.

  • @mikeyfinance2431
    @mikeyfinance2431 Před 5 lety +8

    That’s not true , because dealers will take advantage of down payment and raise interest rate and deceive customers by adding more products, I was a finance manager at a Chevy dealer and I had to quite because I couldn’t sleep at night out of guilt !! You better get a check from your bank or credit union .

    • @TheFuzzyboy1976
      @TheFuzzyboy1976 Před 4 lety

      Mikey Finance what’s the best option to buy a car that cost $7000 , should I finance with a down payment say $1000 and finance the rest or get a credit union loan and negotiate a cash price at the lowest price possible?

  • @screamingsavage001
    @screamingsavage001 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for all the info you have GIVING me!!! Keep it it up man.

  • @tobylynn75
    @tobylynn75 Před 5 lety +32

    I dont tell dealer anything other than I want lowest price. Internet sales and in person sales. I can buy a 1 way tkt to many dealerships in my State for 200 bucks and yes, I've walked away from deal over $500 bucks.

    • @UFCLodawg
      @UFCLodawg Před 5 lety

      Toby Bridges you and everyone else lol

    • @tobylynn75
      @tobylynn75 Před 5 lety +9

      I'm fine with a dealership making money. I'm not fine with dealerships screwing people over.

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 Před 5 lety

      No local taxes on mrsp lefty

    • @robertguille8784
      @robertguille8784 Před 5 lety

      you sound like the problom not the solution lol

    • @Ed-lz4jv
      @Ed-lz4jv Před 5 lety

      Big deal everyone does thaat

  • @GamingJGBdbz
    @GamingJGBdbz Před 4 lety +10

    It really comes down to the down payment. Your going to want to put 30%, or more down. Never want an APR rate over 15%, because your going to be paying $5,000 or more in interest. Depending on the final price of the car.

    • @GoogleAccount00
      @GoogleAccount00 Před 2 lety

      Thanks for sharing this information.

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 Před 2 lety

      Nobody is charging 15% these days. Unless it's a scumbag outfit like JD Byrider.

    • @imso1stplace
      @imso1stplace Před 2 lety +1

      Not necessarily, at least 15% down payment should suffice

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 Před 2 lety

      @@imso1stplace : 15% interest, not 15% downpayment.

    • @imso1stplace
      @imso1stplace Před 2 lety +1

      @@Alexi7666 no, he said verbatim “it really comes down to the down payment, your going to want to put 30% or more” when in reality anything more than a 15% on down payment is just extra leeway on your monthly but 15% down payment is more than enough.

  • @mattsloop2736
    @mattsloop2736 Před 5 lety +4

    How do we know if they are scooping the rebates for themselves? Is there a way to figure it out?

  • @johnq8135
    @johnq8135 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Chevy dude. Nice video keep them coming

  • @shahbazkhanjs
    @shahbazkhanjs Před 5 lety

    Highly appreciated your videos lighting up on inside tricks

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy Před 5 lety +9

    Never put a down on something that will depreciate the minute you take the keys by more than your down payment.

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 Před 2 lety +1

      If depreciation is a concern, maybe you shouldn't be buying a car. Buy what you can afford, not what will impress people.

  • @Carl_Jr
    @Carl_Jr Před 5 lety +5

    I'm sure Mike will cover this in another video, but 2 other reasons may be 1.) The purchaser is upside-down in his/her trade. Sometimes that payoff can put the LTV higher than the bank will buy. If the dealership can't sell the loan, they can't sell the car. 2.) The buyer's Debt-To-Income ratio is high, and the down payment will drop the monthly payment (by dropping the amount financed) below the magical 42%.
    Actually, a third reason can be because the car dealership is in the car too deep and needs to unload it. If they haven't balanced the inventory then the amount they own the car for may be keeping them from making any money at the price they have to drop the car to, in order to get the buyer financed. Maybe more complicated than non-car dealers would understand but I've been in a few situations were getting even just $200 from the buyer as a down payment = $200 in profit, and that's it. People with bad credit are the ones that get the dealership into that position, more than not.

  • @clerissonmesquita
    @clerissonmesquita Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for your invaluable information, highly appreciate it, keep it up the outstanding job, have a great day.

  • @samuelramirez4774
    @samuelramirez4774 Před 5 lety +9

    Car dealerships are so shady. That old school “strong” sales style needs to change. The car industry as a whole needs to innovate. It’s not the 1950s anymore. If dealerships don’t innovate they’re gonna be out of business soon enough. (like some taxi companies *cough* Uber)

  • @fretster3
    @fretster3 Před 2 lety +4

    Should a downpayment be deducted from the price before or after the sales taxes?

  • @xxZerosumxx
    @xxZerosumxx Před 5 lety +12

    1) Don't talk about your money.
    2) Talk about how low you can get price down on the vehicle. ( You may have to shop different dealers)
    3) If you have a trade in, get a price first before giving them your ss#.(If financing)
    4) Once you like the price, start talking about your money.(Down payment/Financing) Keep track of the price at all times. Take a paper and pen if need be.
    5) If at the end of the day(because it will take a whole day) something doesn't sound right. Go home,think about it and don't rush it.

    • @daniilivanov9601
      @daniilivanov9601 Před 5 lety +1

      Sounds like a good way to waste a whole day 🤷‍♂️

  • @RobjJohnson-sk1wg
    @RobjJohnson-sk1wg Před 5 lety +1

    You are big help we need more people like you out here to let people know about the car game thanks

  • @fx4den540
    @fx4den540 Před 5 lety

    Enjoy your vids bud... keep up the priceless info !!!

  • @choward874
    @choward874 Před 5 lety +18

    I'm saving up so I can pay cash for a new truck screw financing and going in to debt.

  • @Scotty_in_Ohio
    @Scotty_in_Ohio Před 5 lety +9

    More often than not a "down payment" is a way to line the pockets of the sales consultant and finance manager. Unless you are arranging for financing outside of the dealership (always a good idea anyhow) then it's usually pretty easy to bury your cash in the deal with other discounts or rebates as Chevy Dude mentions. Don't be a "payment buyer" understand the rate, term and total cost of the vehicle - know those things before you go and never let the dealer take your credit app before you understand the terms of the deal. Remember too that these guys/gals are professionals - they do this all day long and you do it a few hours every few years - it's not an even playing field. If you think for a second that you'll know what they (truly) paid for the car/truck/suv you're kidding yourself - most of the time even the sales manager doesn't know - they just know about "how low they can go". Dealership owners many not know until all the "program money" is back in and any other factory to dealer incentives are accounted for.

    • @ARCENAULT
      @ARCENAULT Před 5 lety +1

      Absolutely...I been trying to explain to people but the non believers send me nasty ass messages on how they are right financing their vehicles and I am wrong... LMAO..oh well...good to see I am not alone in understanding the value of 💰

  • @jc209714
    @jc209714 Před 3 lety

    Great video thanks for explaining in good detail.

  • @gerrygalvan7313
    @gerrygalvan7313 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for all the tips! Is it a good buy to purchase a lease return?

  • @whoswho156
    @whoswho156 Před 5 lety +5

    I'm more lost now than before i watched this that being said I agree with Alan Smith on being pre-approved prior to shopping for a car know your financial limits and hold fast if you've got good credit you should have no problems buying a car now if your a person who can afford to purchase a new vehicle (or a person who doesn't care that your throwing a few thousand bucks out the widow of a new car as you drive it home then go for it I myself have never bought a brand new vehicle and I never will I can't see paying that price for something that I'm not keeping past 7 years (the longest I've ever owed a car)

  • @jsangre1515
    @jsangre1515 Před 5 lety +4

    Go to your union credit ask for car loan once you r approve walk in to the dealer like you have money because you do from the bank.never tell dealer what do you want to pay monthly.

  • @stevenphillips863
    @stevenphillips863 Před 5 lety

    For purchasing a new vehicle, can you go straight to the manufacturer and buy it? If so what benefits come from doing that than going to a dealership?

  • @chadman9482
    @chadman9482 Před 5 lety +1

    What’s the best way to find out if there are rebates available for the vehicle you’re wanting to buy?

  • @jefftalbot8371
    @jefftalbot8371 Před 5 lety +9

    All car salesmen are liars. If they told you the truth the dealership would fire them. I have been buying cars for 40 years and in that time I have purchased 1 vehicle where I feel I got a straight deal. It was December 30th and salesman needed to sell a vehicle. I bout my last new vehicle in July of 2018. I told salesman I was going to buy product x and would not be purchasing extended warranty. Got into the little room and guy just keep hammering a warranty I did not want. I finally told him if you keep pushing I am walking. Stop the extended warranty crap.

    • @timroberts917
      @timroberts917 Před 5 lety

      So basically fuck F&I managers they shouldn't try to do their job...

    • @WJ-cg1de
      @WJ-cg1de Před 4 lety

      If you don't get a warranty and something happens to your car your fucked... You should probably get a warranty genius.

    • @cesarnyc
      @cesarnyc Před 4 lety

      I also heard from someone else that buying a car at the end of the year might get you a better deal, I wonder if that is accurate.

  • @adrianreining9533
    @adrianreining9533 Před 4 lety +5

    Exactly why I don't disclose monthly payment preference or down payment. Also, I go in pre-approved. I wait to see if the dealership can beat the rate I got. If not, I go with my pre-approved loan.

  • @edm9063
    @edm9063 Před 4 lety +1

    My local Ford dealership wouldn’t sell me a 2015-2019 f-150 after 3 times I turned to Chevy and got a 2019. I put 15% down for both and Chevy except my down payment with no trade in. I have good credit and my APR is 5.0% for 4 years. Was this a Good choice??? I’m ahead of my payments by paying more then what my monthly note is.

  • @slowpoke4547
    @slowpoke4547 Před 5 lety

    Thanks dude. Great video!!

  • @Dirtnap300
    @Dirtnap300 Před 5 lety +7

    ok, interesting discussion.. for me, i only talk out 'the door price' (price with taxes, tags and their fees).. and i dont mention any trades or downpayments until we have agreed on that number... Then when i get to the finance desk i break it to that person that they are wasting their time. I never buy extended warranties or any of the dealer 'treatments' like paint sealing or undercoating... I never feel taken advantage of but who knows?

    • @noegallo552
      @noegallo552 Před 5 lety

      Dirtnap300 same I do. It’s funny to see the pissed off look in their faces when they can’t take advantage of someone

    • @TheMotorGuyDirect
      @TheMotorGuyDirect Před 5 lety

      Undercoating can be worth it if it’s $500 or less. But I live in the salt belt. I use to work for an extended warranty company. If you pay less $1000 you got a good deal.

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 Před 5 lety

      @@TheMotorGuyDirect
      All modern cars are undercoated, all you are doing is blocking drain holes and making your car rust faster with those aftermarket ones now.

  • @ocdtechtalk
    @ocdtechtalk Před 5 lety +193

    I appreciate your videos but you really didn't provide any information.

    • @HemiMuscle
      @HemiMuscle Před 5 lety +15

      Exactly

    • @randalgibbons8822
      @randalgibbons8822 Před 5 lety +25

      And here I thought it was just my low IQ.

    • @RabbiTrogdor
      @RabbiTrogdor Před 5 lety +9

      What do you mean? He provided a ton of information.

    • @Ed-lz4jv
      @Ed-lz4jv Před 5 lety +16

      no shit, I stopped at 4 minutes in, get your loan from your bank FUCK DEALERS

    • @nobleking7609
      @nobleking7609 Před 5 lety +7

      Well this man sells cars for a living... What makes u think he can't sell videos/views....????

  • @martinritch5241
    @martinritch5241 Před 5 lety

    GREAT JOB. GREAT INFORMATION . THANKS.

  • @zabrinatheteacher
    @zabrinatheteacher Před 4 lety

    Great info. Thank you!

  • @BerserkerMaro
    @BerserkerMaro Před 5 lety +146

    Every thousand dollar you put down only takes $20 of the monthly payments

    • @scottjames5498
      @scottjames5498 Před 5 lety +24

      Depending on the term of the loan

    • @briangoodie3420
      @briangoodie3420 Před 5 lety +17

      I don't think it's $20 anymore, maybe more like $16. If see a car commercial pause it and read the fine print, it will tell you.

    • @guhbe385
      @guhbe385 Před 5 lety +5

      @@briangoodie3420 or like do the math yourself....

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 5 lety

      @@guhbe385 LOL God Bless you sir!

    • @kais295
      @kais295 Před 5 lety +18

      Yeah.. put like 5 grand down.. rather keep that 5 grand and use that money and save it for the payments or 5 grand after you take it out and put it towards the car

  • @joeybaltz582
    @joeybaltz582 Před 5 lety +5

    i would assume you're making as much youtubing as you are selling cars. nothing bad about it. You run a good informational channel. Keep on the grind.

  • @joesilvestre5817
    @joesilvestre5817 Před 5 lety

    hi chevy dude, I watched your video about being prepared b4 buying a car. thanks for all the advice, my mom & I are now well prepared when we go buy the Durango she wants!! thanks!!

  • @chasfischer2844
    @chasfischer2844 Před 5 lety

    Great videos, thanks

  • @skidawg79
    @skidawg79 Před 2 lety +3

    Love your videos. I don't care what my payments are, I want to see what my trade value is, what my interest rate is and everything that goes into the total. This might not be the right way to go about it, but if a car salesman asks me what i want my payments to be....I walk out.

    • @wildcard9724
      @wildcard9724 Před 2 lety +1

      Hey Dave, I typically wait until I get the freshly printed itemized contract to scrutinize. Plus thats usually the apex where they sell ext. warranty, undercoat, and tint....... Until my signature is on it, they ain't got diddly squat!

  • @toadguy9501
    @toadguy9501 Před 5 lety +21

    As a former car dealer I'll tell you the real secret. Do NOT finance through the dealership or the manufacturer, this is the golden mistake millions of people make. Go through your credit union or financial institution. Make sure any money you put down you give to them, not the dealer!!!!

    • @ericdiekmann11
      @ericdiekmann11 Před 5 lety +11

      I bought a new 2018 Silverado December 2018 and financed thru GM financial scam rip off ass clowns then refinanced a week later at a local credit union. GM was at 6.7 percent my place is 2.7 I did it to get the extra "rebate" . The dealership asked me to wait a few months before doing that lol fk that my loyalty is to my wallet not the dealership.

    • @jamesgarrison6430
      @jamesgarrison6430 Před 5 lety

      Were you a dealer or a seller

  • @brandonzeivel7280
    @brandonzeivel7280 Před 3 lety

    New subscriber and I was wondering the best time to discuss the amount you plan on putting down?
    Thank you for your time.

  • @pralineblues
    @pralineblues Před 3 lety

    Does this apply to new cars? For new cars, would the best way to pay be: the price of the car/(# of months qualifying to finance) ? If apr is 0 for 60 months, would it be 0 down payment and then price of the car/60 months?

  • @xXAust1n46Xx
    @xXAust1n46Xx Před 5 lety +158

    Buy your car with cash and you don’t have to deal with any financing trickery and nonsense.
    I recently purchased my first car, a used 2013 Ford Mustang v6 with cash. I certainly could’ve walked away with a brand new 5.0 mustang GT but I’d rather buy something I can afford in full and then save up at my own leisure than go into huge debt for instant gratification now.
    Plus it’s extra satisfying to buy something after saving up for a while. Just my 2 cents from the Dave Ramsey within me 👍🏼

    • @mertz313
      @mertz313 Před 5 lety +23

      Buying out right does not grow your credit which in turns hurts you

    • @xXAust1n46Xx
      @xXAust1n46Xx Před 5 lety +33

      I'm a tree Financing a car to “build credit” is an excuse you tell your wife when she wonders why you have a new car 😄... you can build credit for free by using a credit card and paying it off at the end of the month.
      99% of people that finance and lease cars do so because they simply can’t afford it. But they want instant gratification so they buy it anyways. The banks love it. Easy money for them.

    • @xXAust1n46Xx
      @xXAust1n46Xx Před 5 lety +9

      Daisy Juice Establish how much you want to pay before you even start looking. Look for used cars between 2-5 years old for the best overall value. That works best for a budget of $10,000 and up. If your budget ends up being less than that, look for reliable used cars like a Toyota Corolla or a used Honda.
      And from there if you’re not satisfied with the car you can afford, start a savings account and deposit into it every paycheck and work up to something nicer. And at any time you can use that money for other purchases if need be. Unlike financing a car where you’re on the hook for a bill every month even if your living situation changes.

    • @mariamatias5801
      @mariamatias5801 Před 5 lety +12

      From where I'm from if you pay a car up front they investigate you for money laundering 🤣 everyone wants you to just be in debt it's kinda crazy

    • @Kingsec10
      @Kingsec10 Před 5 lety +28

      But you bought a V6 and you won’t feel the same way about it in a few months!

  • @chuckleroy3992
    @chuckleroy3992 Před 5 lety +4

    I hate when car dealers talk in down payments and monthly payments. It is an easy way to confuse most customers and hide the bad details of the deal. Could lease an S class for $50 bucks a month with enough money down...

    • @workingshlub8861
      @workingshlub8861 Před 5 lety +1

      banks offer 10 year loans on ferraris and lamborghinis etc....i could afford that payment if i want to give up eating

  • @ROMANEMPIRE69
    @ROMANEMPIRE69 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the info Dexter Holland! When is the next Offspring music video coming out? 🤪

  • @waltaslife6581
    @waltaslife6581 Před 2 lety

    Hello I love your videos. I just have a questions I’m a bit confused. Money down does lower payment but is money down actually a good idea. If so how much?

  • @lincolnrhodes1548
    @lincolnrhodes1548 Před 5 lety +97

    yep, this guy is definitely a car salesman. he talks a lot but in a totally incomprehensible way. I know less now than before watching the video.

    • @drwinlied
      @drwinlied Před 5 lety +9

      lol "Tip #2!" I was like, where tf was tip #1? This vid is essentially, 'dealerships will screw you out of money'...which everyone knew before watching the vid

    • @edubb2491
      @edubb2491 Před 5 lety +6

      The Chevy dude liked ur comment too with a heart..lmao..omg!!

  • @ricwestdoesitwork
    @ricwestdoesitwork Před 5 lety +26

    I have got to point if I don't like how a dealership comes at me I get up an walk out of the dealership. Thanks for all the information you provide. Love your videos.

  • @geoa5089
    @geoa5089 Před 5 lety

    When looking at a vehicle’s “sticker” price new or used, how much money can I as a consumer take off right off the bat to ensure a good deal? Bc I know price is always negotiable.

  • @troyking4787
    @troyking4787 Před 4 lety +1

    Man I live in Memphis and I’m planning on buying a gently used ram in the next 5 or 6 months. I’d be willing to make the drive if I could have you and your honesty as my salesman. Can we make that happen?

  • @endocry
    @endocry Před 5 lety +4

    I focus on total cost and interest rate since I know my credit is good.

  • @LuciensMusic
    @LuciensMusic Před 3 lety +3

    We called it "pencil whip" in the service. Dealerships take pencil whipping to another level,lol.

  • @keyboardfreedomfighter5734

    Got a question, I've been interested in buying a certain car since about July 2018. I've been saving money to do so, my plan is to buy this particular car around October 2019. Now, I currently own(as in own) a car that's worth about $10,800-excellent condition on KBB. The car I'm looking to buy, or the price range that I'll be going after will be about 36-$37,000. I understand that the dealer ship will most likely not give me excellent condition KBB appraisal for my vehicle, so I've made a plan for myself. If I can get at least $10,000 appraisal value for my car, then I will pay the remainder balance in cash for the car I want. However, my target range that I'd like to deal on is $32-$34,000. So let's say closing price(including all fees) is $33,000 FLAT

  • @glennmiller394
    @glennmiller394 Před 5 lety +1

    In my county (PA), the sales tax on a lease is 9% of the monthly lease payment, where state tax is only 6%. What a racket.

  • @harley13purenrg
    @harley13purenrg Před 5 lety +3

    Great video. Very informative. Thank you for sharing. However, just curious, how much of this stuff do you as a dealer do? Or are you completely against the things you've named. I ask because finding an honest car salesman is like finding an honest politician or an honest lawyer. And I will soon be in the market for a newer car. I would definitely prefer to deal with someone who values honesty. Someone who prides himself on making an honest living by making an honest sale.

    • @thetruthyes
      @thetruthyes Před 5 lety +3

      He's not honest, he talks to much when a questions needs a simple answer. Most youtubers are that way. The only really honest youtuber is BigTruckBigRv channel. He really tells it like it is the bad and the good, he even mentions that companies tried to have him advertise their products on his channel but the companie would need to have reviewed the video and make changes if they didn't like something before it was posted. He declined.

  • @TristanWeberNFL
    @TristanWeberNFL Před 3 lety +5

    My finance manager when i first started in the car business told me "down IS gross (profit)" Glad you explained this.

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 Před 2 lety

      Down payment is GROSS profit?? In what world? Money down is just that; part of the payment, a committment on the buyer's part.

  • @ricardogil22
    @ricardogil22 Před 4 lety +1

    @ChevyDude what if i want to buy a car cash? Any tips?

  • @randallswanson5378
    @randallswanson5378 Před 5 lety +1

    Do car dealers still use the term tissue....which is their invoice on what they paid for the car and can you ask to see it....and then add a percentage on top for profit? That would make the buying process so much easier

  • @benitojr4332
    @benitojr4332 Před 5 lety +5

    i feel like, Every dealers Sales are at the Mercy of Banks Approving clients, matter how pushy Salesman is!

  • @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo
    @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo Před 5 lety +68

    I never let dealerships run my credit because they send it to like 60 banks who all run your credit and bring it down bad! I always go to my personal bank and apply for a car loan so i only have one bank running my credit! Plus dealerships hate this because it kills there bonus profit that banks give them for finding them new customers!

    • @theshield1613
      @theshield1613 Před 5 lety +3

      really man I should start doing that

    • @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo
      @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo Před 5 lety +9

      @@theshield1613 going to dealerships is hard on your credit score!

    • @williamheinsinger7390
      @williamheinsinger7390 Před 5 lety +7

      @@TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo ,they are STEALERSHIPS lol

    • @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo
      @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo Před 5 lety +8

      @@jasenrock i did once and i recieved like 30 letters to my house telling me i was approved even though the dealership told me they only sent my application to my bank! You can't trust dealerships!

    • @brittanyjones137
      @brittanyjones137 Před 5 lety +5

      @@ChevyDude that a lie. All salesman are scumsuckers.

  • @oronderobinson419
    @oronderobinson419 Před 4 lety +1

    Can the dealership require a downpayment even after they said they could get the deal approved without it? If so, are you required to make the downpayment even after you've taken possession of the car?

  • @Rbhawk3rd
    @Rbhawk3rd Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the awsome video

  • @danielgalindo2714
    @danielgalindo2714 Před 5 lety +8

    If you have good credit just make them a lowball offer cause they won’t hesitate to hiball you cause there ppl that will take the first offer they give them don’t be scared to lowball and walk out of the dealership and try another place trust me they will call you back! If you have bad credit then you out of luck there’s not much negotiation to do it’s either take it at this price or go home empty handed and trust me theres way more ppl with bad credit than ppl with good credit

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 5 lety +1

      Credit is for broke Dick's!

    • @jwheelsw9381
      @jwheelsw9381 Před 5 lety +1

      Obviously not a home owner

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 5 lety +1

      Owning a home is a liability. And if you have to finance something. You can't afford it, nor do you really own it. I own rental property, for now anyway. I most certainly do not own my own home, and may never do so. I finance nothing anymore. And haven't in well over a decade. And I have no credit cards either. I have debit cards, which accomplish the same thing, without accruing any interest, ever. I don't play their game. I play my game, my way, and I win this way. Not them. I buy all my property cash. And funnily enough. Only rent to people with good credit. Because I know they're worried about it. So they'll definitely pay me. I don't have those problems. You can't screw with me that way. I'll pay you because I think it's fair to, not because I'm concerned about my credit rating. No one's got me by the Cajones like that, EVER!
      You all really need to learn how to use your money properly. You all think that rich people have good credit? 😂 😂 😂
      There's lots of videos on here that explain these things. You all should really start watching them. Or you'll never truly be independent. You all say I don't own my own home. What's funny is that you're all the ones that don't own your own home, like you think you do. The bank does. And if you can't pay the taxes before, or after you've paid it off. You won't own it then either. You're under the delusion you own it. You really own nothing. Even in a state with no property taxes. They can still take it from you other ways, if they want to. Liens, eminent domain, etc. All you've done is put yourself in debt. Just like they want you to. Good luck with all that.

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 Před 5 lety

      @@amb3cog
      You own rental property but lease a house?????

  • @zakm4012
    @zakm4012 Před 5 lety +4

    How much is a down payment for the 2019 Toyota Avalon do y’all think?

    • @strtngfrsh
      @strtngfrsh Před 5 lety +3

      100 percent if possible.

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 Před 5 lety

      Get a factory CPO one. You can get a 2016 with low miles for under 20k. It will be like new. Still has a long factory warranty left. (Dealer CPO means nothing, needs to be manufacturer backed)

    • @fdeltoro8149
      @fdeltoro8149 Před 4 lety

      Zak M all depends on ur credit if u have great credit u don’t need a down payment

  • @ramiroalejandro4923
    @ramiroalejandro4923 Před 3 lety

    I want to by a kia sx turbo sportage fwd and my trade is a 2019 kia sorento ex6 ; I have paid 32 months on a 84 month financing plan. It is in excellent condition. So what should I get in blue book value for a trade and buying the sx turbo fwd 2021?

  • @mainwayne1352
    @mainwayne1352 Před 5 lety

    Hello Chevy dude. Can I get a 2019 Silverado work truck with 2.7 L turbo four. Without being at Fleet buyer?

  • @billalves4758
    @billalves4758 Před 4 lety +3

    With all of the sales, rebates and incentives throughout the year, when is the best time of year to buy?

  • @rangered2010
    @rangered2010 Před 5 lety +8

    Not sure why a car dealer would tell everyone the dirty secrets that car dealers use.

    • @waterheaterservices
      @waterheaterservices Před 5 lety +1

      He is not a car dealer, he is a salesman. These vids can bring him a lot of customers.

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog Před 5 lety +3

      What the first guy said, but more importantly. I would love for you to tell me what he told us, because best I can tell. He never said a damn thing. He implied, he cajoled, but there was Zero details that would help anyone, in ANY WAY, AT ALL!

  • @thomassoltis5862
    @thomassoltis5862 Před 5 lety

    Great video brother keep up the awesome work Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family

  • @grantleach8421
    @grantleach8421 Před 5 lety

    Hear anything about Chevy possibly doing anything about the issue of sticky valves on the GDI engines or am I just going to be stuck doing valve cleanings and installing a catch can?