Thanks. That's good to know. I'll be posting that update tomorrow. By the way it's humbling to know that I have viewers all the way from Argentina. Thank you for watching!
@@sadnessinside123 -+top drop, aka Martini drill. The 1870 Henry Martini rifle was a British lever action rifle that was a single shot. Pull down the lever and drop a cartridge in the top, close the lever. Here in Ohio we're limited to 3 rounds for Deer hunting, so working it single action becomes a habit vs Game Wardens. 1 in the breech, 2 in the pocket and an empty magazine avoids fines.
Its nice to know folks in US like Brazilian guns. Funny fact is, most of the calibers we cannot use here in Brazil. Taurus and Rossi are big manufactures here. We also have Boito, which usually manufacture shotguns. And they have good ones. Thanks for your video.
Thanks! Yes I was having a hard time getting enough brightness to see the details without washing out the rest of the scenery. It really is a nice Deep Blue.
That Rossi is a great little rifle. I have that exact gun but in stainless. I picked it up last September. I had to do some minor smoothing internally and it's been perfect since. Like your's it was dead on out of the box. They are fun, light, fast handling and accurate. I load both 38 Spl. and 357 Mag. and both work great. Congratulations on a fantastic choice.
It's John Browning's design that you like. The Rossi? Compared to a Miroku Winchester, it is a piece of crap. An no constest with the latest Ruger Marlin 94!
@@tedclutter7326 The Winchester Miroku is a beautiful rifle, but it comes at almost twice the price of the Rossi 92. Second the Marlin 94 (1894) action is not a John Browning design, but was patented by L.L. Hepburn. Completely different action.
I’ve come back to this video several times since it posted and I finally got a 357 Rossi 92 in stainless. You can tell Rossi has made many improvements mine is butter smooth and the loading gate is not sharp or stiff like most reviews say and I realize the safety is like yours with a red dot instead of the red F and green S. I love the updates they made this is a great buy. Although I will say my Rossi loaded 38s better than 357s but if that’s the worst issue I have to experience I am happy with this buy! Thank you for the video!
I have the 16” carbine and it’s a little beast. Eats all of my max power reloads with zero issues. Fixing to throw a few bits on it from Steve’s guns but even as it is out of the box, fabulous rifle.
Hi out of the lever guns i have Winchester , marlin and a lone Rossi 357 S/S cowboy, the Rossi always performs without any buggering around. So it always goes for outings with one or two others not the other way around. Only real issue I have is the flying brass which was soon fixed with a spring kit. Enjoy Rossi are one of the most underrated brand on the market in my humble opinion .
@@TargetSuite got mine at Brownells here in Australia sure you'll find it easier where you are. It's a pain trying to find that small brass in the grass...The only fault I can find, they cycle better than my marlins etc, just as accurate and cheaper.
Wow. A guy that knows how to properly run a lever gun. Keep it to the shoulder and cycle it without taking it off the shoulder. Many videos show the shooter lowing the gun each round. Good job.
Lol! Your right. some youtubers that can't shoot for s#it and think their giving some of us a tutorial 😂. Been shooting longer than they've been on the planet.
I had a Rossi .357 in stainless, with a companion Rossi revolver. I used them both for pig hunting. They were both very accurate and functioned flawlessly. I hand checkered the stock and fore grip on the carbine. They both now reside with a couple of my sons.
Nice, I'm thinking that as American firearms manufacturers recede, that several previously good foreign manufacturers are just getting better. -Gunny T sends
My wife bought me one for Christmas a few years ago. I have ….a few…guns, but this one turned into one of my favorites right away. It’s just a hoot! It was a little stiff at first, but , as recommended on several forums, I would cycle it while watching TV. It loosened up nicely and is just a lot of fun. When I pull it out at the range nearly everyone , especially friends wives, want to shoot it. The only real caveat, if you want to call it that, is it really slings the empties out. That could be an issue for reloaders, hunting the brass. With 38s it’s as tame as a 22. With mags it’s a real force to be reckoned with as a hunting rifle within reasonable ranges. The fit and finish aren’t as nice as an older Marlin or Winchester , but it’s no dog either. I put Skinner sight on mine and I love it.
You are right about slinging the empties. I think it has to do with the ejector spring being too stiff. And that also contributes to the final closing of the lever being a little bit stiff
Nice to see you back George. I’m from the UK 🇬🇧 and visited Estes Park and drove Trail Ridge Road in 1988 in an old Chevrolet , great scenery and memories .
Welcome back. We just took a quick trip to Aurora, CO this week as well. Cherry Creek Reservoir is the back yard of our friends there with a nice view of Red Rocks. Coffee on the deck looking at the mountains watching Target Suites reruns. That will make you smile. We listened to the books by William Johnstone, "The first mountain man" and one of the "Preacher" series.
I have had my R92 for about 10 years now and really enjoy it. It is the 16” barrel carbine 357 magnum. When I purchased it the story going around was to cycle the action 500 times before firing. I don’t know if this is why, but mine has always cycled everything I loaded. I also replaced the safety with a Steve Gunz peep and plastic mag follower with a steel one. I clipped 1 1/2” off the mag spring.I have only taken one deer with it , but he dropped in his tracks at 35 yds with a frontal shot. It’s nice to carry because of the length and it’s also light weight. I enjoyed the video thanks
This example is beautiful, the finish can really be seen when you're showing how the feed path works. You're not the first to say these new Rossis are well built, I had all but given up on them due to brutal QC as of 6-7 years ago. But I may have to look at them again!
We're there little flowers up at the pass blooming? There's one that was blooming the last time I was there about 30 years ago called miners socks. Not because they looked like socks, but because they smelled like very ripe socks that had been worn many days without being washed!!! A real treat to smell those flowers at the continental divide among all that beautiful scenery.
I have come to love my Rossi R92 20" Stainless Steel Octagonal Barrel chambered in .357Magnum. It runs flawlessly and is deadly accurate. It is beautifully made; the fit & finish is outstanding.
I finally found one of these in .357 last year and it is a great looking and accurate rifle. I have over 1,000 rounds through it and it cycles anything I stuff in it. Only complaint is the wood is a bit soft. Walnut would have been a better choice than mahogany in my opinion. I give it 4.5 stars because of this but this is the gun that always goes with me. Another amazing timeless John Browning design!
Years back I designed a 45 Colt bullet for fast action shooting with real black powder that would allow near infinite shooting without foulng-out the barrel. A fellow shooter, Snakebite, then introduced a similar concept for the .357mag lever actions that allowed loading the .38 spcl cases, yet having appropriate OAL for .357mag. Stubborn to feed rifles in that caliber were suddenly feeding like warm butter. I think the design is still available in 6 gang mold via Dick Dasterdly or even pre-cast "boolits" from some SASS vendors. Looks like Rossi has improved fit and finish. prs
There is nothing wrong with your 'short' .38 cartridges, you just need to push the last one in a little further with your little finger. once the rim is past the cutoff, they perform flawlessly.
That little extra shove probably moves the case rim behind the rim stop, I'm guessing. Isn't there a replacement for that plastic follower? I might be dreaming, but seems I've read Rossi having some issues with a polymer part in the Puma 454. Maybe it doesn't become a problem with the smaller calibers.
You only have to push on the last one loaded. Use the next few to push past the gate the last you load in the tube..push with finger. I shoot 45 acp in a Ruger magnum squeased down to 44 mag case diameter. Just enough rim is left to stop on rear of cylender. With light cast 44 mag bullet. This makes a 44 short I shoot in my 44 mag. Of course I build my own dies. Have to reduce the case diameter to 44 mag diameter from 45 acp. Working up a powder charge can be fun. Hahaha. Like making a 22 hornet into a 25 hornet. Improved case. I guess I have had way more time on my hands than most have.
I guess the 38/357 versions don't have an unscrewable loading tube like my model 92 in .454 casual. I prefer loading at opening in tube (like most .22's) to not show or cause wear on side loading gate. This method would prevent having to shove last one up further everytime.
Easy fix . When I load 44 Special loads for my Rossi 92 . I crimp them at the first lube groove to make them a longer round closer to the Magnum length . This will work great in your Rossi and the same round will still load in your pistol too
I have the same model and I am very happy with it. The newer ones since 2015/16 have been produced by CBC (look at the stamp, it doesn't say "Taurus" anymore like the old ones), and I heard that the CBC production really increased the quality of those guns. A friend of mine has an older Taurus production R92 with a professional trigger-tuning - but the trigger on mine had the same quality right out of the box!
@@larrymiller5171 Well yes, 1976, that was before Taurus, when Rossi still made all the guns themselves. The one I was talking about was from around 2005-2010
Came back to watch again! I've had my 45 Colt Rossi for a while now and love it. I've replaced the wing safety with a plug and the green plastic follower with a stainless steel one. Shoots great and the windage was perfect right out of the box.
Hi, I enjoy reading about someone replacing the safety lever. Did Yu Have to make the plug or is some- One already making a replacement plug for the rifle? Thank Yu for sharing what Yu did to get this safety level out of the way!!! Teach McF
Welcome home George! Glad y'all had a great family vacation. Everyone needs to do that. It was nice to see your beautiful bride say hello to her for me. George my 1873 uberti 357 does the same thing with some shorter factory loads. So when I get a new box of 38 specials I always make sure they will cycle through. Then I put pistol or rifle on the box. That is a sweet looking carbine! Glad your back friend.
The production of both Taurus and Rossi has been completely taken over by CBC in 2015/16. It seems like that really helped a lot with quality control. CBC is the huge Brazilian/multinational enterprise that owns Magtech and S&B, among others.
I’m still not sure about buying a Brazilian Rossi over a marlin / Winchester . This is the kind of gun that you own during a lifetime , so better spend a little bit more and enjoy it . Better finitions , but I don’t think they are less reliable .
@@TargetSuite I own a Henry steel 357 and it's a beautiful gun, but one these days I'm going to sell/trade it and get a Rossi 357. I like the 92 action so much better.
I bought the ranch hand (pistol lever action) only needed a full movie worth of cycling the action, now its so glassy and light in movment, you could do it with your pinkie
George your absolutely right, the Rossi is very well built rifle and shoots great.I have the same one in 357 cal.I also changed the sights to a Marbles sight.Thanks for the video.
Estes Park is a neat area. As for the R92, I have a couple of them, one of which is a 16” stainless in 357. It is perhaps my most fun rifle to shoot. I’m able to feed 110 grain 38’s with no problem and have also fired 180 grain HSM Bear Loads with great effect. 38’s are so much fun and are like shooting 22’s. Keep up the content.
Welcome back. Great rifle video! I've been up Trail Ridge Road three times and it never gets old and I got light-headed up there too.You are a great looking couple!
Nice lever and good to see you back. That was nice footage of you and your wife and the view , hope you had a good vacation. The only lever I know of without am additional safety is the Chiappa , it has the old half cock safety only. I think they are made in Italy and distributed here but I might be mistaken .
Thanks. You make a good point about the Chiappa. The 45-70 I featured on the channel was traditional to the bone. Not sure how they slip by the safety "police".
@@TargetSuite I don't know either . They have some nice looking 44 mag pistol grip models with 16 inch barrels that look pretty sharp and come with a peep and fiber optic front sight. I have not personally handled one or even seen one in the local shops yet.
Beautiful guns so glad Rossi makes the traditional Winchester cowboy's saddle gun. They'll never get old and people will always want the classic arms of the past! It's in our blood. Thanks for sharing the excitement!
I bought 3 stainless models, 20" .357, 20" .44, and 16" .357 for the wife, the year I retired. I put scopes on mine. NOE Bullet Molds makes/sells them with the proper taper. Scout scope helps the old eyes. I have chronographed Fed American Eagle 158 JSPs from the 20" and it approaches 1800fps. Fiocchi 240 JSPs in the 44 don't gain much over published velocity, but they hit where you aim and have put the bang flop on a 200+ pound hog at 70 yards. The edge of the loading gate is a bit on the sharp side, but could be dressed with a stone (I haven't, but probably should).
@@TargetSuite Hey congrats on the new rifle. I got the same one many months back and the same issue recently came up after months of perfect cycling. Still working on it myself but have seem to hit a rut in the investigation. Hope you figure it out and plan to share what you find. Love the vids, keep em comin.
Got a 24" R92SS, octagonal barrel month ago and it's amazing accurate and gorgeous and no issues whatsoever. Been to the range several times already with different ammo. Even loads shorter flat nose 38 special, 125 gr, 1.4 inch or less with no problems or eject issues. And didn't bleed all over the place loading ammo.There is no problem loading ammo with these rifles. Forget the CZcams BS negative reviews. The quality and functionality is up there, probably just as good as Henry or Winchester.
Welcome back! I have 2 Rossi 92's both in 45 Colt and they were purchased about 8-10 years ago. The wood finish on my guns wasn't nearly as nice as the finish on your gun so I stripped off the old finish and started over. I didn't like some of the blockiness on the buttstock or forearm so I softened up those areas and gave both guns a hand rubbed oil finish. Also Rossi in those days used a very robust ejector spring that would toss my empties at least 10 feet making them hard to find. I can't stand loosing brass either. A quick trip to the local hardware store and I bought a pack of -if I remember correctly-c350 compression springs. Worked perfectly. With a little internal polishing these guns can be made to run silky smooth. Both of my guns have run flawlessly over the years.
Thanks. I appreciate your comment as always. Yes my ejector throws rounds hard enough to break a tooth. So once I get an appropriate number of rounds through this gun and do a follow-up video on its durability I will be making some changes like that.
Picked one up few years back. Dead on out of the box. Took my time oiling & cleaning it before I put a round through it. It's never had a problem....glad you got one its bunch of fun to shoot....
You can clearly see from above when it's empty. But the Rossi springs are so strong that the empty cartridges are ejected like projectiles. It's often hard to find them because they fly so far away.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 I’ve seen this happen twice. Once, there was an empty unejected case in the chamber and once it was a live round. Both instances, the shooters didn’t know they were there.
I’m glad you had a good trip I like going to Colorado and the Black Hills myself I was there not too long ago and took my granddaughters through their beautiful scenery we took a lot of back roads and that was fun. I like that little 92 Rossi looks like it’s going to shoot real well especially after you break it in and it’s smooth out a little bit.I enjoy your videos thank you so much.
Not uncommon for most brands of .357 lever guns to have problems feeding short .38spcl. I load 158 grain round nose .38’s for mine. They’re long enough to cycle without problems. Really like the bluing on that Rossi. My Henry’s should be that blued.
Thanks for the video! I Love my Rossi M92 in 38sp/357mag. It is 33" OAL and groups well at 100 yards. It weighs only 5 lbs. Very fun rifle to shoot. I also liked your footage of Trail Ridge Road. Lived in Estes Park for a few years in the early '90s. One of the best times to do Trail Ridge Road is in the early spring, just after the snow plows clear the road. There is a wall of snow left that is about 20' high (indicating that the snow was about 20' deep), depending on the snowfall for the season.
Was checking my bear stands on day and caught a 200lb male by surprise.Took him with one shot behind the shoulder with a 140 Hornady leverevolution, the bullet even exited ! The gun was a Rossi trapper 16 inch SS, love it ! Thought yall would like to know what the little rifles are capable of. Love your channel. P.S. Have also taken deer with this same load.
But that exact model down to the screws a couple years ago. I've taken apart a lot of 92s and by looking at the machining and the quality it's as good as any Winchester I've ever taken apart.
Welcome back. It's nice to see your videos again. I also have the Rossi 92, in .357. Mine has the 24" octagonal barrel, and I absolutely love it. There's a lot of tuning you can do on these rifles to smooth them out. I highly recommend adjusting the amount of tension on the loading gate, as well as lightening the spring tension on the trigger. You can also get stainless steel magazine springs as well as stainless follower instead of the plastic follower. I also stripped, restained, and refinished my furniture. It took on a whole new appearance after that, and has now become a family heirloom. One other thing I noticed is that I have to do complete swings on the lever. If I get in a hurry and shorten up on the lever movement it has difficulty feeding. So, nice long complete movements on the lever is required, at least on my rifle. BTW...what's happening with the Ruger Single Six??
Purchased a rossi m92 .357 16" barrel last year. Got it for fox and coyotes. Due to the foliage shots are within 75 yds. Works very well, has cycled everything Ive put though it including 158gr blazer aluminum case. Love it. Thanks
This is my favorite rifle, and the last one (that I currently own...) that I would get rid of. It's stainless, 16", with a nice Brass Stacker leather sling that looks lovely on it. It loves 38 sp and 357 (158gr 357 are dead-on). It is my wife's favorite to shoot (no recoil! Fun! Insanely accurate!). I haven't taken it out very often the past year, but brass (as everything else) had become scarce and I tend to lose some since it ejects a bit erratically. I suppose if I had to come up with a complaint, that would be it! It doesn't send the brass to the exact same spot every time! haha It really likes 11 gr of Shooter's World Heavy Pistol behind a 158gr LWSC. 1407 fps avg. Man, I really need to take it out soon!
This is an amazing rifle. My wife and kids got me one last year at this time for a birthday gift. I have had no problem. It is such a joy to shoot. Good review.
Nice video, as usual. I have an older Rossi 92 .357 from the LSI days that is excellent. I am glad to see a new Rossi that works out of the box, and the fit and finish looks pretty good. And Rossi seems to have figured out how to get the sights straight on the barrel, something later Marlins struggled with. One thing I notice on the new Rossis is how far the lever stands off from the lower tang when the action is closed. At least your lever appears to be parallel to the tang, but some I've seen lately aren't.
Thank you! I'm with you on the lever configuration I'm not really sure why they do that. But the big surprise to me was how it functions out of the box. Nothing that has to be tweaked, smoothed, or slicked up.
Rossi 92 is great for the price. Added the Marbles Tang Sight to mine. Makes a big difference at 50 yards & out. Underwood has a Hard Cast 38 Special +P that is awesome. Little more pop to it. Good video. Thanks
Mine had an over SAAMI chamber. Fired brass came out looking pregnant. Sent it to Rossi and a month later it came back and rocks. Couple suggestions: 1. Steve’s Guns rear safety peep sight. 2. Cheap harbor Freight extractor spring (YT search the 50 cent action job) *your brass will fall to your feet, not launch to orbit* 3. Soda can shim under the trigger bar 4. Metal mag plug. 5. I polished inside the magazine tube with mother’s polish as I did with the action and cycled it 150x. Take back apart and clean out all of the polish. 6. I cut a notch in the front sight to use as a holdover. Bullets will land around 400 yards on the notch. 7. Sand/file the loading gate so the metal isn’t sharp and won’t pinch your fingers. 8. Lil Gun powder does magical things to your 357 pills if you reload. 😁 Hodgdon load data is 16-18gr lil gun for a 158gr cast bullet. 1,950fps!
Hey George glad your back hope you had a great time with your family on your time away. Very nice rifle a good shooter too. Enjoy it for many years. All the best!!!
That new Rossi looks , just like you described it, as good as your Winchester! For sure theres quite a bit of difference in the. 357 bullets and the .38 special! The .357s packed a punch that theyre renound for! No question about it! Those are some hard hitters! The steel targets told the whole story about just how hard hitting those rounds were! I know you enjoyed your vacation, and that looks to be quite a trip you took! We missed you and i for one am happy you made it back safe and sound! Getting to go to the Rossi store must have been a real treat to do! This is the first time for me to see a Rossi in .357 mag caliber. Ive seen the Rossi in .410 chambering, and i was impressed with it, but this one you just purchased is the icing on the cake! It shoots as good as it looks! Were those rounds shortened because of reloading often? Im glad you had some that were long enough to work but, of course, the 38s were so much quieter and didnt have the punch the .357s did! Im sure you enjoyed shooting the. 357s more too, as they kicked butt compared to the 38s you ran through it. Im really impressed with that new Rossi rifle!
I bought a Rossi lever action M92, SS, octagon barrel in .357 magnum. Killed two deer with it, longest shot was less than 50 feet, but neither bullet passed completely through the rib cage. I no longer have it as I thought it wasn't powerful enough for deer at longer ranges, so I sold it and bought a Rossi M92 lever in .44 magnum. Haven't been deer hunting since I bought the .44, but I'm thinking about going again this year with it.
hi, to you !!! to solving the issue to feeding the 38 special there is a simple solution, no drilling not a gunsmith work, but only a little care when you load, here is to you after you put the last round in the magazine you take another cartridge and put it in the load gate and push it forward (no more than its half kenght) a little bit the last round, when you feel a click stop, and don't push again now you take away this other cartridge that has been used to push foreward the last round and began to cycle the rifle run ok soon ... so long, good gunner man
Thank you for the suggestion. That loading process helps some of the time, but sometimes it doesn't. I think the bullet shape is a big part of the "problem".
hi, mr George !!! surely, i agree with you, the issue is the coal of 38 special it is less than 357 magnun ... this is the problem, so long, good gunner man 😉
I have the 30-30 and .357 flavors in the Marlins. I’ve owned them since the 80’s. What pushed me to Marlin is the flat top receiver. Optic friendly. I love’em. I should have picked up the .44 to have the set.
Thank you for sharing, very common issue with 92 models. Being the 38 bullets a tad shorter than 357 tend hiccup, very often with hollws thus round nose are the way to go. In addition, changing the spring and green plastic cap for a metallic help. Miroku rifles call it 357 (only) in the receiver.
Glad you got to see the Rocky Mtn National Park. It is one of natures wonders for sure. I live a bout 40 miles from there I go up there on my Harley from time to time.
I was having coffee with a dispatcher and fellow officer about 2AM. Said I'd like to have a 357 carbine. He met me a couple hours later with his 92. I bought it for $115. GOOD TRADE. Best trade I ever made except my dad giving me his pre-64 model 70. 55 years later that 70 is my deer gun.
Nice to have you back!! Said it before, Marlin fan, but now I am going to HAVE to check out Rossi. Dont think I can afford Marlin anymore. IMO, yes half cock is safe, lol. Good to see ya! Godspeed 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸 Just took a quick peek on GB, Rossi’s are not that inexpensive either, anymore, wow where have I been? Yeah under a rock. Its nicer than I remember them, finish I mean.
Sitting next to this Rossi at Ron's guns was a Henry X model. It was $300 more than the Rossi. A standard big boy was $200 more than the Rossi. I love made in America but $300 is $300
Welcome back! Thank you for the additional video of Estes Park. Seeing those mountains in the distance reminded me of a picture from when I was a child that my parents took on a camping trip. I believe it must've been from the same location!
My chiappa 357 will jam "shorter" 38s if I slow motion the action, but if you work the lever with authority it will cycle just about anything, since reloading makes no difference in cost between 38 or 357, I just use 357 mag cases and load them light with trail boss or unique if I want a plinker load . Very nice Rossi and great shooting!
I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Rossi, and my M92 is great. I got it in .45 Colt, 24 in. half octagon / half round barrel. Slick and accurate.
I just bought one last week and have not even shot it yet. I think they look better in person then they do up in a picture. Is yours a mine is a 16 inch barrel. Yours looks like a 20 on screen.
Mine is a 20 inch carbine. I really wanted to find a 16" model because I want to do a video on using the lever action rifle for personal defense. But all I could get my hands on what's this beauty with a longer Barrel.
Welcome home and thank you for such a great video and the detail of that rifle! My good friend has a Rossi in stainless and is a 44 Magnum. I really like the deep blued finish and 20 inch barrel on yours. And old Ron set you up with that? Man! I’ve gotta go see him soon!
I used to have a Rossi .357 Puma. A model 92 with the saddle ring. I called it my pet because it was like a good dog and went everywhere on the ranch with me and then some. I hand loaded for it and anything was a head shot within 100 yards. I wore it out. Since I love the .357 mag. caliber as much as I do I bought a Ruger M77/357. I also had a Puma .44 mag. but wasn't as fond of it cuz the barrel was to thin and heated very fast then started throwing wild shots.
Hi, thanks for the video. I also have a Rossi 357/38 mod 92, it has a 16 inch barrel and it is fun to shoot I have owned the rifle for over 17 years and it is in the same beautiful condition as when I purchased it, I use both factory ammo and my own hand loads never had any problems at all. Cheers.
I shot in Cowboy Action matches for more than twety years wit a Rossi 1892 as my primary rifle. The "short cartridge jam" was solved by loading .38 Special shells with a 158 grain bullet set out to make the cartridge .357 Mag length. If you are loading lead bullets, they shouldn't give you any problems with the crimp in the soft lead; jacketed bullets will likely be a different story, but I never considered using jacketed bullets for this particular cure, in CAS. Jacketed bullets are for revolvers when loaded in .38 Special cases.
Love your review of the Rossi R92 .357. I was planning on getting one, new, for my 70th birthday but when I make enquiries I was informed that there will be no Rossi rifles imported into Great Britain for the next TWO YEARS..!! So.. I'm waiting for a well looked after R92 to arrive that I got second-hand for a very good price. It will be, like yours, in .357 and it has a 20" octagonal barrel. Interestingly it is also fitted with an end cap on the fore-end. I have only seen these on the 24" barrel models..!!?? I had, 12 years or so ago, a Winchester 94AE which was nice, but you had to be gentle with it or run the risk of breaking the shell lifter. I imagine the Rossi will be a little more robust than that. Nevertheless it's the one rifle I wish I'd kept. There is just something so cool about lever guns. Keep the videos coming, they are excellent and extremely informative.
Good for you finding that Rossi. The fit and finish looks better than the one I have. I had trouble with the buckhorn sights and took both my 92's into my smith and had DT for receiver sights. Mine shoots very well with jacketed out to 100yds. The cast I have on hand are fine to 50 yds and are fun to plink with in the 38 case. And welcome back!
@@TargetSuite word over here is your safe But I don’t trust the current leader of the free world. Probably more so his sidekick. You can’t imagine how my eyes 👀 lit up when I saw my little gun. Thank you
i am glad your happy with yours, mine did not come in lookin so good. metal sharp edges , feeder tube has a divet in it keeping it from feeding. its kind of a poop sandwich ...and i still love it
Welcome Back, Kotter 👍 Hello George , it’s very nice to have you back , The Rossi rifle looks like a nice addition to your shooting collection and knowing you I’m sure you’ll get the bugs worked out concerning the 38 special bullets ! PS. It also was very nice seeing the Beautiful scenery of the mountains and also to meet your wife ,I’m glad you guys had a wonderful time 😊
I really like the 92 Winchester and then I need to Rossi being a real close copy is one of my favorites as well, looks like that’s a good shooter. Glad to see you’re back, that was certainly some beautiful countryside you were showing us, my parents lived in evergreen Colorado for a few years, I was born there, but I love it here in Alabama much better
I have had my Rossi 92 about 10 yrs now and it feeds everything. I even mix 38 and 357 to test it, and it cycled smoothly. It's one of my favorite guns although Im not crazy about the Brazilian Rosewood stock, wish these were walnut.
Welcome back! I liked the Rossi I had also, but it was the Trapper model with the large loop and for some reason I didn't want that combination. I've tried to find the model you have but they are indeed scarce around here. I think the 357 Magnum in the 1892 configuration is just about perfect for walkaround in the woods or home defense. Right combination of rifle weight and recoil.
@@TargetSuite Since reliability with 357 Magnums seems flawless, and I assume that is what you would use for home defense, that would be a great idea. My custom hollowpoint cast bullets with a max load of 2400 would turn a half gallon of water into mist. Plenty potent, very handy and quick to use. And a lot of visitors who would be a little uncomfortable with an AR in the corner would smile at the sight of a "quaint" cowboy carbine..
I had a lot of wad cutter .38 target loads... And yes they are too short to load right. You can see them actually fly but they have to be loaded singly. FUN!!!
I bought the R92 stainless because Hickok 45 had flawless function of both 38 and 357. Henry was failing to work on the 38s. When I got it I couldn't push rounds into the loading gate. My 33 year old 6'4" son couldn't load it. I sent it back with a letter not exactly praising their quality control. The rifle came back with a letter saying nothing was wrong with it. It now loads with ease. The action is buttery smooth. I don't know why they wouldn't take credit for making my rifle so sweet. If it wasn't for my son trying to load it also, I would have thought it was me. I'd love to know why they didn't take credit for making such a sweet rifle.
I have owned one of these (20") for a few years and while the action was pretty smooth out of the box, after a few hundred rounds in the first months I went back in and disassembled the action and hit all the wear surfaces with 1500 grit sandpaper and it's now much much better.
I recall back in the 90's a friend of mine loading .38 full wadcutters into his Rossie lever gun and it so jammed up the loading mechanism that it was a reall PITA clearing them out.
I've got the same one in SS. Great lightweight carbine in .357. I've had that same issue with shorter rounds and reloads, but they feed factory loads without a hitch. Mine was really rough when I bought it but after a detail strip and some de-burring and polishing, she's smooth as silk now. I also replaced the safety on the bolt with a peep sight from Steve's Guns. This gives a longer sight radius and a better sight picture for better accuracy.
Wanted a 357 lever action. Looking at Henry and Rossi. Neighbor has the Rossi and likes it. It came down to tube feed vs side load. Neighbor said he wished he had tube feed. Says his thumb gives out b4 he is out of ammo. Love my Henry and shooting 38 is a hoot.
I looked at Henry and this Rossi side-by-side at Ron's guns. But the Henry's were $200 and $300 more expensive than this guy. So that made the choice pretty easy. That said I do want another Henry😄
A 24in Rossi is the one that I started out with my heart set upon. And I missed the one at Ron's guns by just a few hours. I would like to have that extra four inches of barrel length to gain velocity when needed. I plan to change Springs and smooth things up myself but I want to get 1000 rounds down range and do a follow-up with it before I do any of that work. Did you get your stuff from Steve's Gunz?
@@TargetSuite I 'think' it was Steves that I got the spring kit from, there were 2 others as well to get ALL the springs.. makes ALLthe difference in the world
I love my Rossi 92. Actually, I have this in a stainless 20-inch carbine and also in a Mares leg (Ranch Hand) Both are great. I will say that the Ranch Hand always struggles to feed. The Stainless, is flawless. I just took a piggy with it last week, and several years ago I harvested a piggie with the Mares leg. I love em both and I'd have to agree, they ROCK.
At 12:39 you can hear a small pop noise when your push the cartridge stop over. That's the spring making that noise. I found for my gun the little flat spring that pushes the cartridge stop over was a few thousand to long as was going under the tab it should rest on. I filed just a very small amount off and now when you push the lever over it always comes back. Mine would get stuck in the open position every now and again. When your assembling the guide you can see/feel where it should stop at.
I can't go through 802 previous comments to see if anyone else has pointed this out, but the reason your shorter rounds only worked "sometimes" is because when you're first putting the rounds in the side loader each round pushes the previous round into the magazine tube. But because they're shorter, they can't push the previous round past the cartridge stop to seat it properly in the magazine. So once you pushed that last round up into the magazine past the cartridge stop, all is well because they're all in the magazine past the stop. Since all the rounds in the magazine are now past the cartridge stop, as each spent shell is ejected the next round is backed out by the spring loaded cartridge stop. So long story short, if you are stuck with rounds that are too short, you can load them all in and then push the last magazine round past the cartridge stop as you did in the video and everything will feed normally until it's empty. You just have to do this every time you load with shorter cartridges.
I´ve got one and it shoots all my reloads. even short 38´s. Great hog killer here in the bush in Argentina.
Thanks. That's good to know. I'll be posting that update tomorrow. By the way it's humbling to know that I have viewers all the way from Argentina. Thank you for watching!
Can you use wad cutter rounds in it?
@@sadnessinside123 Manual and individual feeding. Putting directly in the chamber
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@@sadnessinside123 -+top drop, aka Martini drill. The 1870 Henry Martini rifle was a British lever action rifle that was a single shot. Pull down the lever and drop a cartridge in the top, close the lever. Here in Ohio we're limited to 3 rounds for Deer hunting, so working it single action becomes a habit vs Game Wardens. 1 in the breech, 2 in the pocket and an empty magazine avoids fines.
I got the Rossi 357 carbine 5 years ago, and out of all my guns I'll grab that carbine first if I can only get one rifle...love it.
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I agree. I have one in .357 and one in .44Mag, and love both.
Its nice to know folks in US like Brazilian guns.
Funny fact is, most of the calibers we cannot use here in Brazil.
Taurus and Rossi are big manufactures here.
We also have Boito, which usually manufacture shotguns.
And they have good ones.
Thanks for your video.
I love my 20ga Stoeger coach gun, and Rossi 357.
Greetings from Ohio. When they're good, they're good.
That metal is so dark it looks almost painted. That is some deep blueing.
Congratulations on the purchase.
Thanks! Yes I was having a hard time getting enough brightness to see the details without washing out the rest of the scenery. It really is a nice Deep Blue.
That Rossi is a great little rifle. I have that exact gun but in stainless. I picked it up last September. I had to do some minor smoothing internally and it's been perfect since. Like your's it was dead on out of the box. They are fun, light, fast handling and accurate. I load both 38 Spl. and 357 Mag. and both work great. Congratulations on a fantastic choice.
Thanks. I think it's going to be a keeper!
It's John Browning's design that you like. The Rossi? Compared to a Miroku Winchester, it is a piece of crap. An no constest with the latest Ruger Marlin 94!
@@tedclutter7326 The Winchester Miroku is a beautiful rifle, but it comes at almost twice the price of the Rossi 92. Second the Marlin 94 (1894) action is not a John Browning design, but was patented by L.L. Hepburn. Completely different action.
I’ve come back to this video several times since it posted and I finally got a 357 Rossi 92 in stainless. You can tell Rossi has made many improvements mine is butter smooth and the loading gate is not sharp or stiff like most reviews say and I realize the safety is like yours with a red dot instead of the red F and green S. I love the updates they made this is a great buy. Although I will say my Rossi loaded 38s better than 357s but if that’s the worst issue I have to experience I am happy with this buy! Thank you for the video!
I have the 16” carbine and it’s a little beast. Eats all of my max power reloads with zero issues. Fixing to throw a few bits on it from Steve’s guns but even as it is out of the box, fabulous rifle.
that is the one I want...in stainless
MAN....just cant wait to find one
Hi out of the lever guns i have Winchester , marlin and a lone Rossi 357 S/S cowboy, the Rossi always performs without any buggering around. So it always goes for outings with one or two others not the other way around. Only real issue I have is the flying brass which was soon fixed with a spring kit. Enjoy Rossi are one of the most underrated brand on the market in my humble opinion .
I'll be looking for a replacement spring on the ejector as well. Where did you find yours?
@@TargetSuite got mine at Brownells here in Australia sure you'll find it easier where you are. It's a pain trying to find that small brass in the grass...The only fault I can find, they cycle better than my marlins etc, just as accurate and cheaper.
Have one of those minus the safety and has a 16 1/2 inch barrel. Holds 8 rounds in the magazine. Mighty handy little carbine. 😎
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Wow. A guy that knows how to properly run a lever gun. Keep it to the shoulder and cycle it without taking it off the shoulder. Many videos show the shooter lowing the gun each round. Good job.
Has to do with length of arms!
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Lol! Your right. some youtubers that can't shoot for s#it and think their giving some of us a tutorial 😂. Been shooting longer than they've been on the planet.
I had a Rossi .357 in stainless, with a companion Rossi revolver. I used them both for pig hunting. They were both very accurate and functioned flawlessly. I hand checkered the stock and fore grip on the carbine. They both now reside with a couple of my sons.
Nice, I'm thinking that as American firearms manufacturers recede, that several previously good foreign manufacturers are just getting better. -Gunny T sends
I think you are right.
Sadly, it seems to be so!
My wife bought me one for Christmas a few years ago. I have ….a few…guns, but this one turned into one of my favorites right away.
It’s just a hoot! It was a little stiff at first, but , as recommended on several forums, I would cycle it while watching TV. It loosened up nicely and is just a lot of fun. When I pull it out at the range nearly everyone , especially friends wives, want to shoot it.
The only real caveat, if you want to call it that, is it really slings the empties out. That could be an issue for reloaders, hunting the brass.
With 38s it’s as tame as a 22. With mags it’s a real force to be reckoned with as a hunting rifle within reasonable ranges.
The fit and finish aren’t as nice as an older Marlin or Winchester , but it’s no dog either. I put Skinner sight on mine and I love it.
You are right about slinging the empties. I think it has to do with the ejector spring being too stiff. And that also contributes to the final closing of the lever being a little bit stiff
I have the 24” stainless octagon model in .357. Love it ! Glad you’re back
Thanks! It is good to be back! Btw, I like that 24" model.
Nice to see you back George. I’m from the UK 🇬🇧 and visited Estes Park and drove Trail Ridge Road in 1988 in an old Chevrolet , great scenery and memories .
I bet that old Chevy was wheezing going over some of those passes.
Welcome back. We just took a quick trip to Aurora, CO this week as well. Cherry Creek Reservoir is the back yard of our friends there with a nice view of Red Rocks. Coffee on the deck looking at the mountains watching Target Suites reruns. That will make you smile. We listened to the books by William Johnstone, "The first mountain man" and one of the "Preacher" series.
It's true that sometimes the view can make coffee taste better😎
I have had my R92 for about 10 years now and really enjoy it. It is the 16” barrel carbine 357 magnum. When I purchased it the story going around was to cycle the action 500 times before firing. I don’t know if this is why, but mine has always cycled everything I loaded. I also replaced the safety with a Steve Gunz peep and plastic mag follower with a steel one. I clipped 1 1/2” off the mag spring.I have only taken one deer with it , but
he dropped in his tracks at 35 yds with a frontal shot. It’s nice to carry because of the length and it’s also light weight. I enjoyed the video thanks
This example is beautiful, the finish can really be seen when you're showing how the feed path works. You're not the first to say these new Rossis are well built, I had all but given up on them due to brutal QC as of 6-7 years ago. But I may have to look at them again!
We're there little flowers up at the pass blooming? There's one that was blooming the last time I was there about 30 years ago called miners socks. Not because they looked like socks, but because they smelled like very ripe socks that had been worn many days without being washed!!! A real treat to smell those flowers at the continental divide among all that beautiful scenery.
There were flowers blooming but I didn't notice any smell. The tundra at that altitude was just spectacular.
I have come to love my Rossi R92 20" Stainless Steel Octagonal Barrel chambered in .357Magnum. It runs flawlessly and is deadly accurate. It is beautifully made; the fit & finish is outstanding.
I finally found one of these in .357 last year and it is a great looking and accurate rifle. I have over 1,000 rounds through it and it cycles anything I stuff in it. Only complaint is the wood is a bit soft. Walnut would have been a better choice than mahogany in my opinion. I give it 4.5 stars because of this but this is the gun that always goes with me. Another amazing timeless John Browning design!
Timeless for sure. Thanks for watching!
Over time you will cherish every dent and scratch on it . It will be a roadmap of where that gun has been and what it ,s been put through.
A thousand rounds of .357? Very expensive these days.
I find with lever actions you must work the action firmly with no hesitation. Then everything seems to come together.
Ya dont baby them, cycle it like your life depends on it!
With lever actions, there is no soft levering at all. Quick and firm
Bolt actions chambered for rimmed pistol caliber cartridges are the same.. gotta work the bolt firm and confidently.
Learned that lesson the hard way on several occasions. One hard motion without hesitation is the only way they work.
Work it, like you own it.
Years back I designed a 45 Colt bullet for fast action shooting with real black powder that would allow near infinite shooting without foulng-out the barrel. A fellow shooter, Snakebite, then introduced a similar concept for the .357mag lever actions that allowed loading the .38 spcl cases, yet having appropriate OAL for .357mag. Stubborn to feed rifles in that caliber were suddenly feeding like warm butter. I think the design is still available in 6 gang mold via Dick Dasterdly or even pre-cast "boolits" from some SASS vendors. Looks like Rossi has improved fit and finish.
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Yes. In my limited experience with Rossis I have seen an increase in quality.
There is nothing wrong with your 'short' .38 cartridges, you just need to push the last one in a little further with your little finger. once the rim is past the cutoff, they perform flawlessly.
Exactly. I've got a mare's leg. Fun gun.
Without much more info, I tend to agree. Overall length of cartridge shouldn’t cause this.
That little extra shove probably moves the case rim behind the rim stop, I'm guessing. Isn't there a replacement for that plastic follower? I might be dreaming, but seems I've read Rossi having some issues with a polymer part in the Puma 454. Maybe it doesn't become a problem with the smaller calibers.
You only have to push on the last one loaded. Use the next few to push past the gate the last you load in the tube..push with finger. I shoot 45 acp in a Ruger magnum squeased down to 44 mag case diameter. Just enough rim is left to stop on rear of cylender. With light cast 44 mag bullet. This makes a 44 short I shoot in my 44 mag. Of course I build my own dies. Have to reduce the case diameter to 44 mag diameter from 45 acp. Working up a powder charge can be fun. Hahaha. Like making a 22 hornet into a 25 hornet. Improved case. I guess I have had way more time on my hands than most have.
I guess the 38/357 versions don't have an unscrewable loading tube like my model 92 in .454 casual. I prefer loading at opening in tube (like most .22's) to not show or cause wear on side loading gate. This method would prevent having to shove last one up further everytime.
Easy fix .
When I load 44 Special loads for my Rossi 92 .
I crimp them at the first lube groove to make them a longer round closer to the Magnum length .
This will work great in your Rossi and the same round will still load in your pistol too
You are spot-on. I tried that trick this morning and I only needed to lengthen those cartridges about .040" for them to cycle perfectly.
The sights seemed to be on out of the box! Looked like you were pretty much stacking each shot on top of each other. How I love me some lever guns.
They were. I was amazed!
That close up! Omg what a beauty.
I have the same model and I am very happy with it. The newer ones since 2015/16 have been produced by CBC (look at the stamp, it doesn't say "Taurus" anymore like the old ones), and I heard that the CBC production really increased the quality of those guns.
A friend of mine has an older Taurus production R92 with a professional trigger-tuning - but the trigger on mine had the same quality right out of the box!
Thanks for that. The trigger on mine is the best of all of my lever guns.
@@TargetSuite Yeah right? It's basically a match-trigger right out of the box! Pretty amazing for the price!
I have a 1976 Rossi puma model and nowhere on the gun says Taurus.. just made in Brazil
@@larrymiller5171 Well yes, 1976, that was before Taurus, when Rossi still made all the guns themselves. The one I was talking about was from around 2005-2010
Came back to watch again! I've had my 45 Colt Rossi for a while now and love it. I've replaced the wing safety with a plug and the green plastic follower with a stainless steel one. Shoots great and the windage was perfect right out of the box.
Hi, I enjoy reading about someone replacing the safety lever.
Did Yu Have to make the plug or is some-
One already making a replacement plug for the rifle?
Thank Yu for sharing what Yu did to get this safety level out of the way!!!
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Welcome home George! Glad y'all had a great family vacation. Everyone needs to do that. It was nice to see your beautiful bride say hello to her for me. George my 1873 uberti 357 does the same thing with some shorter factory loads. So when I get a new box of 38 specials I always make sure they will cycle through. Then I put pistol or rifle on the box. That is a sweet looking carbine! Glad your back friend.
Thanks Terry! Apart from doing something drastic I think that's probably the approach I will take as well.
I have a beautiful 80's Rossi .38spl revolver. I'm brazilian, and I'm happy to see brazilian guns sought after in the USA.
That Rossi carbine looks incredible! I am not a huge fan of Taurus or Rossi, but that looks like it might be worth checking out!
For the price, they are definitely worth checking out. The closest henry was $200 more. The X-model 357 . . . $300 more.
The production of both Taurus and Rossi has been completely taken over by CBC in 2015/16. It seems like that really helped a lot with quality control. CBC is the huge Brazilian/multinational enterprise that owns Magtech and S&B, among others.
I’m still not sure about buying a Brazilian Rossi over a marlin / Winchester . This is the kind of gun that you own during a lifetime , so better spend a little bit more and enjoy it .
Better finitions , but I don’t think they are less reliable .
@@TargetSuite I own a Henry steel 357 and it's a beautiful gun, but one these days I'm going to sell/trade it and get a Rossi 357. I like the 92 action so much better.
I bought the ranch hand (pistol lever action) only needed a full movie worth of cycling the action, now its so glassy and light in movment, you could do it with your pinkie
That's some of the nicest wood I've seen on a Rossi. Beautiful.
It is nice. Thanks! And thank you for watching!
Good to have you back mate!!! And greetings from Darwin in Australia! 👍
Thanks! It's good to be back. I hope things are going well Down Under.
George your absolutely right, the Rossi is very well built rifle and shoots great.I have the same one in 357 cal.I also changed the sights to a Marbles sight.Thanks for the video.
Estes Park is a neat area. As for the R92, I have a couple of them, one of which is a 16” stainless in 357. It is perhaps my most fun rifle to shoot. I’m able to feed 110 grain 38’s with no problem and have also fired 180 grain HSM Bear Loads with great effect. 38’s are so much fun and are like shooting 22’s. Keep up the content.
Welcome back. Great rifle video! I've been up Trail Ridge Road three times and it never gets old and I got light-headed up there too.You are a great looking couple!
Thanks I appreciate that.
Nice lever and good to see you back. That was nice footage of you and your wife and the view , hope you had a good vacation.
The only lever I know of without am additional safety is the Chiappa , it has the old half cock safety only. I think they are made in Italy and distributed here but I might be mistaken .
Thanks. You make a good point about the Chiappa. The 45-70 I featured on the channel was traditional to the bone. Not sure how they slip by the safety "police".
@@TargetSuite Yup-I've wondered how they get away with that also
@@TargetSuite I don't know either . They have some nice looking 44 mag pistol grip models with 16 inch barrels that look pretty sharp and come with a peep and fiber optic front sight. I have not personally handled one or even seen one in the local shops yet.
Beautiful guns so glad Rossi makes the traditional Winchester cowboy's saddle gun. They'll never get old and people will always want the classic arms of the past! It's in our blood. Thanks for sharing the excitement!
I bought 3 stainless models, 20" .357, 20" .44, and 16" .357 for the wife, the year I retired.
I put scopes on mine. NOE Bullet Molds makes/sells them with the proper taper. Scout scope helps the old eyes. I have chronographed Fed American Eagle 158 JSPs from the 20" and it approaches 1800fps. Fiocchi 240 JSPs in the 44 don't gain much over published velocity, but they hit where you aim and have put the bang flop on a 200+ pound hog at 70 yards. The edge of the loading gate is a bit on the sharp side, but could be dressed with a stone (I haven't, but probably should).
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@@TargetSuite Hey congrats on the new rifle. I got the same one many months back and the same issue recently came up after months of perfect cycling. Still working on it myself but have seem to hit a rut in the investigation. Hope you figure it out and plan to share what you find. Love the vids, keep em comin.
Got a 24" R92SS, octagonal barrel month ago and it's amazing accurate and gorgeous and no issues whatsoever. Been to the range several times already with different ammo. Even loads shorter flat nose 38 special, 125 gr, 1.4 inch or less with no problems or eject issues. And didn't bleed all over the place loading ammo.There is no problem loading ammo with these rifles. Forget the CZcams BS negative reviews.
The quality and functionality is up there, probably just as good as Henry or Winchester.
Welcome back! I have 2 Rossi 92's both in 45 Colt and they were purchased about 8-10 years ago. The wood finish on my guns wasn't nearly as nice as the finish on your gun
so I stripped off the old finish and started over. I didn't like some of the blockiness on the buttstock or forearm so I softened up those areas and gave both guns a hand rubbed oil finish. Also Rossi in those days used a very robust ejector spring that would toss my empties at least 10 feet making them hard to find. I can't stand loosing brass either. A quick trip to the local hardware store and I bought a pack of -if I remember correctly-c350 compression springs. Worked perfectly. With a little internal polishing these guns can be made to run silky smooth. Both of my guns have run flawlessly over the years.
Thanks. I appreciate your comment as always. Yes my ejector throws rounds hard enough to break a tooth. So once I get an appropriate number of rounds through this gun and do a follow-up video on its durability I will be making some changes like that.
Picked one up few years back. Dead on out of the box. Took my time oiling & cleaning it before I put a round through it. It's never had a problem....glad you got one its bunch of fun to shoot....
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Nice purchase! When you’re finished shooting, and you’re missing one empty, be careful. It might be a live round still in the gun.
You know, I had that exact thought and double-checked the gun to make sure it wasn't hiding!
You can clearly see from above when it's empty. But the Rossi springs are so strong that the empty cartridges are ejected like projectiles. It's often hard to find them because they fly so far away.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 I’ve seen this happen twice. Once, there was an empty unejected case in the chamber and once it was a live round. Both instances, the shooters didn’t know they were there.
I’m glad you had a good trip I like going to Colorado and the Black Hills myself I was there not too long ago and took my granddaughters through their beautiful scenery we took a lot of back roads and that was fun. I like that little 92 Rossi looks like it’s going to shoot real well especially after you break it in and it’s smooth out a little bit.I enjoy your videos thank you so much.
I bet that was a memorable trip for your granddaughters. That's one of my favorite places in the United States.
That little Rossi is Target "Sweet!"
Haha! That's great Pat!
@@TargetSuite I need to get a lever that I just keep traditional.
Congratulations on that find , I have just gotten mine back from Rossi, old 1 would not chamber the 357s they just sent me a brand new one
That's awesome! A great testimony to their customer service.
Not uncommon for most brands of .357 lever guns to have problems feeding short .38spcl. I load 158 grain round nose .38’s for mine. They’re long enough to cycle without problems.
Really like the bluing on that Rossi. My Henry’s should be that blued.
Thanks for your feedback. Lots of folks have shared the same feeding issues.
Thanks for the video! I Love my Rossi M92 in 38sp/357mag. It is 33" OAL and groups well at 100 yards. It weighs only 5 lbs. Very fun rifle to shoot. I also liked your footage of Trail Ridge Road. Lived in Estes Park for a few years in the early '90s. One of the best times to do Trail Ridge Road is in the early spring, just after the snow plows clear the road. There is a wall of snow left that is about 20' high (indicating that the snow was about 20' deep), depending on the snowfall for the season.
Was checking my bear stands on day and caught a 200lb male by surprise.Took him with one shot behind the shoulder with a 140 Hornady leverevolution, the bullet even exited ! The gun was a Rossi trapper 16 inch SS, love it ! Thought yall would like to know what the little rifles are capable of. Love your channel. P.S. Have also taken deer with this same load.
Thanks. Congrats on the bear!. And that's a good testimony for the 357 Magnum.
But that exact model down to the screws a couple years ago. I've taken apart a lot of 92s and by looking at the machining and the quality it's as good as any Winchester I've ever taken apart.
Welcome back. It's nice to see your videos again. I also have the Rossi 92, in .357. Mine has the 24" octagonal barrel, and I absolutely love it. There's a lot of tuning you can do on these rifles to smooth them out. I highly recommend adjusting the amount of tension on the loading gate, as well as lightening the spring tension on the trigger. You can also get stainless steel magazine springs as well as stainless follower instead of the plastic follower. I also stripped, restained, and refinished my furniture. It took on a whole new appearance after that, and has now become a family heirloom. One other thing I noticed is that I have to do complete swings on the lever. If I get in a hurry and shorten up on the lever movement it has difficulty feeding. So, nice long complete movements on the lever is required, at least on my rifle.
BTW...what's happening with the Ruger Single Six??
Purchased a rossi m92 .357 16" barrel last year. Got it for fox and coyotes. Due to the foliage shots are within 75 yds. Works very well, has cycled everything Ive put though it including 158gr blazer aluminum case. Love it. Thanks
Thanks! That's great feedback on the Rossi.
This is my favorite rifle, and the last one (that I currently own...) that I would get rid of. It's stainless, 16", with a nice Brass Stacker leather sling that looks lovely on it. It loves 38 sp and 357 (158gr 357 are dead-on). It is my wife's favorite to shoot (no recoil! Fun! Insanely accurate!). I haven't taken it out very often the past year, but brass (as everything else) had become scarce and I tend to lose some since it ejects a bit erratically. I suppose if I had to come up with a complaint, that would be it! It doesn't send the brass to the exact same spot every time! haha
It really likes 11 gr of Shooter's World Heavy Pistol behind a 158gr LWSC. 1407 fps avg. Man, I really need to take it out soon!
This is an amazing rifle. My wife and kids got me one last year at this time for a birthday gift. I have had no problem. It is such a joy to shoot. Good review.
Thank you. I appreciate your comment in appreciate you watching my video!
Nice video, as usual. I have an older Rossi 92 .357 from the LSI days that is excellent. I am glad to see a new Rossi that works out of the box, and the fit and finish looks pretty good. And Rossi seems to have figured out how to get the sights straight on the barrel, something later Marlins struggled with. One thing I notice on the new Rossis is how far the lever stands off from the lower tang when the action is closed. At least your lever appears to be parallel to the tang, but some I've seen lately aren't.
Thank you! I'm with you on the lever configuration I'm not really sure why they do that. But the big surprise to me was how it functions out of the box. Nothing that has to be tweaked, smoothed, or slicked up.
I have had the trapper model for over 10 years works for me.
That's awesome. I wouldn't mind a 16-inch model myself. I think that would make a great Home Defense weapon.
Rossi 92 is great for the price. Added the Marbles Tang Sight to mine. Makes a big difference at 50 yards & out. Underwood has a Hard Cast 38 Special +P that is awesome. Little more pop to it. Good video. Thanks
Thank you. And thanks for watching.
Mine had an over SAAMI chamber. Fired brass came out looking pregnant. Sent it to Rossi and a month later it came back and rocks.
Couple suggestions:
1. Steve’s Guns rear safety peep sight.
2. Cheap harbor Freight extractor spring (YT search the 50 cent action job) *your brass will fall to your feet, not launch to orbit*
3. Soda can shim under the trigger bar
4. Metal mag plug.
5. I polished inside the magazine tube with mother’s polish as I did with the action and cycled it 150x. Take back apart and clean out all of the polish.
6. I cut a notch in the front sight to use as a holdover. Bullets will land around 400 yards on the notch.
7. Sand/file the loading gate so the metal isn’t sharp and won’t pinch your fingers.
8. Lil Gun powder does magical things to your 357 pills if you reload. 😁 Hodgdon load data is 16-18gr lil gun for a 158gr cast bullet. 1,950fps!
Good to see you back, looking forward to any new news about that little Ruger revolver. Thanks for the videos, love those lever guns.
I have started working on the next episode. It's going to be a lot more work so it may be another couple of weeks or so before I give another update
Have owned six (6) different Rossi lever guns, all shot and worked great.
That's awesome. They are great, and affordable, guns. Thanks for watching and thank you for your comment!
Hey George glad your back hope you had a great time with your family on your time away. Very nice rifle a good shooter too. Enjoy it for many years. All the best!!!
Thanks. Great to hear from you as always!
I have one in stainless still. In 50 yard four hit in the bull eyes . Remington 158 grain 357 magnum. Very happy.
That new Rossi looks , just like you described it, as good as your Winchester! For sure theres quite a bit of difference in the. 357 bullets and the .38 special! The .357s packed a punch that theyre renound for! No question about it! Those are some hard hitters! The steel targets told the whole story about just how hard hitting those rounds were!
I know you enjoyed your vacation, and that looks to be quite a trip you took! We missed you and i for one am happy you made it back safe and sound! Getting to go to the Rossi store must have been a real treat to do! This is the first time for me to see a Rossi in .357 mag caliber. Ive seen the Rossi in .410 chambering, and i was impressed with it, but this one you just purchased is the icing on the cake! It shoots as good as it looks!
Were those rounds shortened because of reloading often? Im glad you had some that were long enough to work but, of course, the 38s were so much quieter and didnt have the punch the .357s did! Im sure you enjoyed shooting the. 357s more too, as they kicked butt compared to the 38s you ran through it. Im really impressed with that new Rossi rifle!
Great comment! Those 38 Specials were short because of the 125 RNFP bullet design. I'll try some different designs until I get one that works.
I bought a Rossi lever action M92, SS, octagon barrel in .357 magnum. Killed two deer with it, longest shot was less than 50 feet, but neither bullet passed completely through the rib cage. I no longer have it as I thought it wasn't powerful enough for deer at longer ranges, so I sold it and bought a Rossi M92 lever in .44 magnum. Haven't been deer hunting since I bought the .44, but I'm thinking about going again this year with it.
hi, to you !!!
to solving the issue to feeding the 38 special there is a simple solution, no drilling not a gunsmith work, but only a little care when you load, here is to you after you put the last round in the magazine you take another cartridge and put it in the load gate and push it forward (no more than its half kenght) a little bit the last round, when you feel a click stop, and don't push again now you take away this other cartridge that has been used to push foreward the last round and began to cycle the rifle run ok soon ... so long, good gunner man
Thank you for the suggestion. That loading process helps some of the time, but sometimes it doesn't. I think the bullet shape is a big part of the "problem".
hi, mr George !!!
surely, i agree with you, the issue is the coal of 38 special it is less than 357 magnun ... this is the problem,
so long, good gunner man 😉
I have the 30-30 and .357 flavors in the Marlins. I’ve owned them since the 80’s. What pushed me to Marlin is the flat top receiver. Optic friendly. I love’em. I should have picked up the .44 to have the set.
There's still time😉
Thank you for sharing, very common issue with 92 models. Being the 38 bullets a tad shorter than 357 tend hiccup, very often with hollws thus round nose are the way to go.
In addition, changing the spring and green plastic cap for a metallic help.
Miroku rifles call it 357 (only) in the receiver.
Thanks. I've got the Miroku 357 and have noted that 357 only chambering.
Glad you got to see the Rocky Mtn National Park. It is one of natures wonders for sure. I live a bout 40 miles from there I go up there on my Harley from time to time.
It is beautiful and I tried to get there on my motorcycle once but Trail Ridge Road was closed.
George, apparently you didn't spend all your money on vacation .....Nice Rifle.
You just opened Panora's box for rifle buying.....
Haha! I may be in beans and rice for the next 6 months to pay for the vacation and the Rossi😄
I was having coffee with a dispatcher and fellow officer about 2AM. Said I'd like to have a 357 carbine. He met me a couple hours later with his 92. I bought it for $115. GOOD TRADE. Best trade I ever made except my dad giving me his pre-64 model 70. 55 years later that 70 is my deer gun.
Nice to have you back!! Said it before, Marlin fan, but now I am going to HAVE to check out Rossi. Dont think I can afford Marlin anymore. IMO, yes half cock is safe, lol. Good to see ya! Godspeed 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Just took a quick peek on GB, Rossi’s are not that inexpensive either, anymore, wow where have I been? Yeah under a rock. Its nicer than I remember them, finish I mean.
Sitting next to this Rossi at Ron's guns was a Henry X model. It was $300 more than the Rossi. A standard big boy was $200 more than the Rossi. I love made in America but $300 is $300
Welcome back! Thank you for the additional video of Estes Park. Seeing those mountains in the distance reminded me of a picture from when I was a child that my parents took on a camping trip. I believe it must've been from the same location!
Thanks Mark it's good to be back. It's very possible that your parents picture was taken in the same location it's a great spot!
My chiappa 357 will jam "shorter" 38s if I slow motion the action, but if you work the lever with authority it will cycle just about anything, since reloading makes no difference in cost between 38 or 357, I just use 357 mag cases and load them light with trail boss or unique if I want a plinker load . Very nice Rossi and great shooting!
I agree. My favorite is trail boss.
If you reload .Why would you want to use 38 special cases inside a 357 mag chamber .
@@charlyromeo7926 A 38 special plus P is a smoother round and A 357
@@mathewgoebel4078 Read my comment again.babe.it will be much better for your answer
I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Rossi, and my M92 is great. I got it in .45 Colt, 24 in. half octagon / half round barrel. Slick and accurate.
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I just bought one last week and have not even shot it yet. I think they look better in person then they do up in a picture. Is yours a mine is a 16 inch barrel. Yours looks like a 20 on screen.
Mine is a 20 inch carbine. I really wanted to find a 16" model because I want to do a video on using the lever action rifle for personal defense. But all I could get my hands on what's this beauty with a longer Barrel.
Longer barrel makes it a little more accurate at longer distances. You really ended up with a real gem!
Welcome home and thank you for such a great video and the detail of that rifle! My good friend has a Rossi in stainless and is a 44 Magnum. I really like the deep blued finish and 20 inch barrel on yours. And old Ron set you up with that? Man! I’ve gotta go see him soon!
Good to see you're back.
Cannot go wrong with a Rossi. Mine is a smooth 44 Magnum 20", but the wood on yours is better looking.
I used to have a Rossi .357 Puma. A model 92 with the saddle ring. I called it my pet because it was like a good dog and went everywhere on the ranch with me and then some. I hand loaded for it and anything was a head shot within 100 yards. I wore it out. Since I love the .357 mag. caliber as much as I do I bought a Ruger M77/357. I also had a Puma .44 mag. but wasn't as fond of it cuz the barrel was to thin and heated very fast then started throwing wild shots.
Hi, thanks for the video. I also have a Rossi 357/38 mod 92, it has a 16 inch barrel and it is fun to shoot I have owned the rifle for over 17 years and it is in the same beautiful condition as when I purchased it, I use both factory ammo and my own hand loads never had any problems at all. Cheers.
Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
I shot in Cowboy Action matches for more than twety years wit a Rossi 1892 as my primary rifle. The "short cartridge jam" was solved by loading .38 Special shells with a 158 grain bullet set out to make the cartridge .357 Mag length. If you are loading lead bullets, they shouldn't give you any problems with the crimp in the soft lead; jacketed bullets will likely be a different story, but I never considered using jacketed bullets for this particular cure, in CAS. Jacketed bullets are for revolvers when loaded in .38 Special cases.
Great suggestion. I just bought two hundred rounds of 38 Special Starline brass. Can't wait to get them loaded up
Love your review of the Rossi R92 .357. I was planning on getting one, new, for my 70th birthday but when I make enquiries I was informed that there will be no Rossi rifles imported into Great Britain for the next TWO YEARS..!!
So.. I'm waiting for a well looked after R92 to arrive that I got second-hand for a very good price. It will be, like yours, in .357 and it has a 20" octagonal barrel. Interestingly it is also fitted with an end cap on the fore-end. I have only seen these on the 24" barrel models..!!?? I had, 12 years or so ago, a Winchester 94AE which was nice, but you had to be gentle with it or run the risk of breaking the shell lifter. I imagine the Rossi will be a little more robust than that. Nevertheless it's the one rifle I wish I'd kept. There is just something so cool about lever guns.
Keep the videos coming, they are excellent and extremely informative.
Thanks! And thank you for watching!
Dear George,glad you’re back!!
I own a beatiful Rossi.357 magnum in stainless steel and bestiful wood!!!
Thanks!
Good for you finding that Rossi. The fit and finish looks better than the one I have. I had trouble with the buckhorn sights and took both my 92's into my smith and had DT for receiver sights. Mine shoots very well with jacketed out to 100yds. The cast I have on hand are fine to 50 yds and are fun to plink with in the 38 case. And welcome back!
Thanks! I appreciate your comment.
Bought mine in 1979 back in the days when we had guns in Australia 🇦🇺 it was a great little gun
Thanks for sharing. That story of Australia and her guns is a tragic one. I just hope it never unfolds here.
@@TargetSuite word over here is your safe But I don’t trust the current leader of the free world. Probably more so his sidekick. You can’t imagine how my eyes 👀 lit up when I saw my little gun. Thank you
i am glad your happy with yours, mine did not come in lookin so good. metal sharp edges , feeder tube has a divet in it keeping it from feeding. its kind of a poop sandwich ...and i still love it
Welcome Back, Kotter 👍
Hello George , it’s very nice to have you back , The Rossi rifle looks like a nice addition to your shooting collection and knowing you I’m sure you’ll get the bugs worked out concerning the 38 special bullets !
PS. It also was very nice seeing the Beautiful scenery of the mountains and also to meet your wife ,I’m glad you guys had a wonderful time 😊
Thanks I appreciate your comment! And wasn't Welcome Back Kotter where John Travolta got his start? That's a long time ago😲
@@TargetSuite welcome back , welcome back , welcome back 👍
Got a Rossi in 44 and I love it! Great truck gun. Got mine at Ron’s also. Great people there. Keep up the great work!
I really like the 92 Winchester and then I need to Rossi being a real close copy is one of my favorites as well, looks like that’s a good shooter. Glad to see you’re back, that was certainly some beautiful countryside you were showing us, my parents lived in evergreen Colorado for a few years, I was born there, but I love it here in Alabama much better
I agree that you're in a much better place now😉 Most of Colorado is off the chart when it comes to liberal socio-political policies.
I have had my Rossi 92 about 10 yrs now and it feeds everything. I even mix 38 and 357 to test it, and it cycled smoothly. It's one of my favorite guns although Im not crazy about the Brazilian Rosewood stock, wish these were walnut.
Welcome back! I liked the Rossi I had also, but it was the Trapper model with the large loop and for some reason I didn't want that combination. I've tried to find the model you have but they are indeed scarce around here. I think the 357 Magnum in the 1892 configuration is just about perfect for walkaround in the woods or home defense. Right combination of rifle weight and recoil.
Thanks! I think I'm going to make a personal defense video around this rifle. Let me know what you think
@@TargetSuite Since reliability with 357 Magnums seems flawless, and I assume that is what you would use for home defense, that would be a great idea. My custom hollowpoint cast bullets with a max load of 2400 would turn a half gallon of water into mist. Plenty potent, very handy and quick to use. And a lot of visitors who would be a little uncomfortable with an AR in the corner would smile at the sight of a "quaint" cowboy carbine..
I had a lot of wad cutter .38 target loads... And yes they are too short to load right. You can see them actually fly but they have to be loaded singly. FUN!!!
I bought the R92 stainless because Hickok 45 had flawless function of both 38 and 357. Henry was failing to work on the 38s. When I got it I couldn't push rounds into the loading gate. My 33 year old 6'4" son couldn't load it. I sent it back with a letter not exactly praising their quality control. The rifle came back with a letter saying nothing was wrong with it. It now loads with ease. The action is buttery smooth. I don't know why they wouldn't take credit for making my rifle so sweet. If it wasn't for my son trying to load it also, I would have thought it was me. I'd love to know why they didn't take credit for making such a sweet rifle.
I have owned one of these (20") for a few years and while the action was pretty smooth out of the box, after a few hundred rounds in the first months I went back in and disassembled the action and hit all the wear surfaces with 1500 grit sandpaper and it's now much much better.
I recall back in the 90's a friend of mine loading .38 full wadcutters into his Rossie lever gun and it so jammed up the loading mechanism that it was a reall PITA clearing them out.
I've got the same one in SS. Great lightweight carbine in .357. I've had that same issue with shorter rounds and reloads, but they feed factory loads without a hitch. Mine was really rough when I bought it but after a detail strip and some de-burring and polishing, she's smooth as silk now.
I also replaced the safety on the bolt with a peep sight from Steve's Guns. This gives a longer sight radius and a better sight picture for better accuracy.
That's good to know. I saw that sight from Steve's guns also. It looks intriguing.
Wanted a 357 lever action. Looking at Henry and Rossi. Neighbor has the Rossi and likes it. It came down to tube feed vs side load. Neighbor said he wished he had tube feed. Says his thumb gives out b4 he is out of ammo. Love my Henry and shooting 38 is a hoot.
I looked at Henry and this Rossi side-by-side at Ron's guns. But the Henry's were $200 and $300 more expensive than this guy. So that made the choice pretty easy. That said I do want another Henry😄
@@TargetSuite I was spending my stimulus $ so I wasn't that concerned with the price difference.
I have a Rossi 357 24" oct. barreled rifle, changed out ALL the springs and smoothed her up, She runs great now. awesome 150 yard deer rifle..
I have a double round ball 38 special load that is perfect for cottontails.
A 24in Rossi is the one that I started out with my heart set upon. And I missed the one at Ron's guns by just a few hours. I would like to have that extra four inches of barrel length to gain velocity when needed.
I plan to change Springs and smooth things up myself but I want to get 1000 rounds down range and do a follow-up with it before I do any of that work. Did you get your stuff from Steve's Gunz?
@@TargetSuite get rid of that plastic follower in the mag tube,2 or 3 guys make metal replacements,the plastic one can break...... mine is now brass
@@TargetSuite I 'think' it was Steves that I got the spring kit from, there were 2 others as well to get ALL the springs.. makes ALLthe difference in the world
Again, love your videos George, I always learn a little something. Looks like you & wife had an enjoyable trip.
Yes it was a fantastic trip. Thank you. And it was the last family adventure that included my sister before she passed. So it was doubly special.
I love my Rossi 92. Actually, I have this in a stainless 20-inch carbine and also in a Mares leg (Ranch Hand) Both are great. I will say that the Ranch Hand always struggles to feed. The Stainless, is flawless. I just took a piggy with it last week, and several years ago I harvested a piggie with the Mares leg. I love em both and I'd have to agree, they ROCK.
At 12:39 you can hear a small pop noise when your push the cartridge stop over. That's the spring making that noise. I found for my gun the little flat spring that pushes the cartridge stop over was a few thousand to long as was going under the tab it should rest on. I filed just a very small amount off and now when you push the lever over it always comes back. Mine would get stuck in the open position every now and again. When your assembling the guide you can see/feel where it should stop at.
I also love this rifle. I have two of them in stainless steel. A .357 and a .44 magnum. Awesome guns!
Ayyyymen!
I can't go through 802 previous comments to see if anyone else has pointed this out, but the reason your shorter rounds only worked "sometimes" is because when you're first putting the rounds in the side loader each round pushes the previous round into the magazine tube. But because they're shorter, they can't push the previous round past the cartridge stop to seat it properly in the magazine. So once you pushed that last round up into the magazine past the cartridge stop, all is well because they're all in the magazine past the stop. Since all the rounds in the magazine are now past the cartridge stop, as each spent shell is ejected the next round is backed out by the spring loaded cartridge stop. So long story short, if you are stuck with rounds that are too short, you can load them all in and then push the last magazine round past the cartridge stop as you did in the video and everything will feed normally until it's empty. You just have to do this every time you load with shorter cartridges.