Caliphate of Uthman: Origins of Shia 3/10
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2018
- In this ten-part series, Hani from TSD explains the origin and early development of the Shia- from a political sect to a new religion.
New episode every week.
(I) Time of Muhammad (PBUH)
(II) Caliphate of Abu Bakr & Omar
(III) Caliphate of Uthman
(IV) Ali & Ibn Saba the Jew
(V) Aftermath of Hussein's Martyrdom
(VI) Zubayri Revolution
(VII) Al Mukhtar & Kaysanites
(VIII) Zaidi Revolution
(IX) Rafidah Emerge
(X) Imami Shia Arise (Finale)
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a leader of a nation who just defeated 2 superpowers of the time (persian&byzantine empires) did not want to order his strong army to fight his subjects who rebelled against him and would rather have himself killed instead. Can you find any president, king, leader of superpower country like that in history? Uthman ra, a man deemed worthy by Rasulullah صلى الله عليه وسلم to marry his 2 daughters
Hazrat Uthman RA was a man who devoted his life for Islam a man who put his life on the line to end blood shed and fitna between muslims may Allah swt bring shame and punishment to Hazrat Uthman’s killers it’s funny to say how Abdullah ibn Saba vouched for Ali RA when Ali RA and his sons Hassan and Hussain RA we’re defending Uthman during the fitna.
SHIA 12ER ORTHODOX
who told anything not found in sahih sitta are not reliable?
some hadiths outside the sahih sitta are authentic while some hadiths that are in sahih sitta are not reliable
the story of ibnu saba is found in both sunni and shia sources and also in the jewish encyclopedia
Funny how you think he devoted his life to Islam when he went against the words of the holy prophet saw and disrespect the prophets saw daughter !
Kaseem K The prophet (s) in an authentic Hadith said that if he had 100 daughters he’d marry them all to Uthman until each and every one of them died, take ur foolishness elsewhere
polo lol that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in years that’s why he married Fatima a.s to Ali a.s ! What a foolish statement lol where did you get that information from you you donkey it’s it from your fabricated book of Hadith lol thanks foolo you’ve made my year with that false fabricated statement lol I can’t stop laughing lol seriously statements like this show the world what ignorant lier’s you fools are truly hope you wear the fasting cause that statements just broken it cause it’s a pack of lies lol
polo I’m still laughing but should be angry as you lie using the holy Prophets swt name! But then again you get your false beliefs from fabricated Hadith from hypocrites so shouldn’t be surprised let me guess Qur’an and sunnah yes ?
Of the sahaba that were alive during the end of Uthmans life, none were stronger than him.
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, *“The strong are not the best wrestlers. Verily, the strong are only those who control themselves when they are angry.”* [Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 5763, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2609]
Uthman (RA) was not the best warrior of the sahaba, but he was a man who had the greatest strength, which is self constraint. This man had the *east and the west* under his control. One word and all those thugs that surrounded his house would be massacred. But he didn't want to shed the blood of a muslim, even if the muslim is a fasiq. Uthman (RA) feared Allah and he restrained his hand. The sahabah kept asking him to allow them to fight these thugs but he kept ordering them to leave them be.
And when the blood of Uthman (RA) was shed, fitnah was unleashed against the nation until today.
Historically hazrat uthman never lead any war during the time of Mohammad(SaW).What some people say regarding Hazrat Uthman after being the caliph of Muslims is not necessarily truly because he attained some followers who fought on his behalf .It means a man with no courage can participate in any war if he has a back up.Obama waged many war against other nation which doesn't mean he was courageous rather it means he had a support of courageous people who were able to fight.I hope you will get my point inshallah.
@@twelverusooli8364 mr shiya Do you believe in the Holy Quran?
Hudhaifa said, “‘Umar said, 'Who amongst you remembers the statement of Allah’s Apostle (SallAllaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam) about afflictions’?’ I said, 'I know it as the Prophet had said it.’ 'Umar said, 'No doubt, you are bold. How did he say it?’ I said, 'A man’s afflictions (wrong deeds) concerning his wife, children and neighbors are expiated by (his) prayers, charity, and enjoining good.’ (The sub-narrator Sulaiman added that he said, 'The prayer, charity, enjoining good and forbidding evil.’) 'Umar said, 'I did not mean that, but I ask about that affliction which will spread like the waves of the sea.’ I said, 'O chief of the believers! You need not be afraid of it as there is a closed door between you and it.’ He asked, 'Will the door be broken or opened?’ I replied, 'No, it will be broken.’ He said, 'Then, if it is broken, it will never be closed again?’ I replied, 'Yes.’ ” Then we were afraid to ask what that door was, so we asked Masruq to inquire, and he asked Hudhaifa regarding it. Hudhaifa said, “The door was 'Umar. "We further asked Hudhaifa whether 'Umar knew what that door meant. Hudhaifa replied in the affirmative and added, "He knew it as one knows that there will be a night before the tomorrow morning.”
Sahih Bukhari 24:516
Say رضي الله عنهم with there names jazakAllah
Wallahi I've been wondering about the origins for a while and I knew it has to do with Uthman. I desired this knowledge so much, please continue.
Great lectures brother 👍🏼👍🏼
Spot on Hani!
May Allah bless you brother Hani.
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Ameen
The Sunni Defense
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Farid plz
when's the next Q and A? jazakAllah khair
Brother Hani can you please zoom out the camera more because it feels uncomfortable to watch when camera is too zoomed in
jazakallahu khairan
Is there any sanad for what you are saying?
Could you do video on the 10 companions of The Prophet promised paradise?Because I believe that these were the successors he named not in a particular order of succession. Then look after Ali’s death which of the 10 were left
To continue the succession. Compare the list to the 6 People Umar choose to choose his successor as well.
Bit off topic, but your thumbnails remind me of ps1 CD game covers lol
سبحان الله العظيم رب العرش الكريم
Saqeefa was forced on the people by threat of death.
It would be good if the truth is told in these presentations.
It would be good to mention Ghadeer khum and the tragedy of Thursday when explaining the view of the imamate of Imam Ali ibn Abi Talibعليه السلام.
That would be more scholarly.
Asalam wa alaikum brother it would better if you send peace and blessings upon the sahabas when mentioning there names and hazarat uthman (Ra) was martyred.
First
Can someone explain how your caliphates where chosen amongst yourselves when clearly in the Quran Allah swt choose the caliphates leaders divinely????? Mohammad hijab was asked this question and couldn’t answer can anyone else answer ?
Kaseem K lol ok give us the reference where the 12 imams are on the Quran or where they’re chosen ?
Yahya answer a question with a question typical sheep lol
Hani Salhab 38:26
Masta Ace 38:26
Kaseem K Allah(SWT) gave leadership to A RIGHTEOUS PROPHET i.e. Dawood(AS)
this mentions nothing about 12 infallible imams that know the unseen and that you can pray to and all the other Shirk and paganism you rafidah do. Fear Allah(SWT) Wallahi associating partners with him will lead you to a humiliating punishment.
0:39 what is the bullshit you're speaking about sayyadna usman bin affan r.a.
There is hadith in musnad ahmad
Where prophet Muhammad s.a.w said usman will be on the right path during the time of fitnah musnad ahmad 24566
So who gives you right to say his decision were not sound Or he was old
When our beloved prophet said he will be right
Are you referring maududi books??
Please do your islah
He is only describing what happened. He is not giving a decision whether Usman was more correct in his approach or not.Moreover, being old is just an information, not insult.
there are three types of abdullah ibn e saba in the islamic history
the first one which comes from the reports of sayf
the second one which comes from the reports without any isnad
the third one which comes from isnad other than sayf. the third kind is very few in number i.e 10 or 11 in total.
first and second is totally rejected by both shiah and sunni academics. Ibn e saba of the third kind of report is a person who was punished by hazrat ali and had no significant role whatsoever in islamic history. therefore there is no mention of ibn e saba in siha sittah due to his insignifjcant personality. this third kind of ibn e saba could possibly be a real figure but he is equally accursed amongst both the shias and sunnis. the ibn e saba of the first and second kind is undoubtedly a fictional character.
Hani Salhab: So you say that important historical and political personalities dont get mentioned in siha sittah? moreover Sayf is an established liar....and there is no dispute on that matter amongst the shias and sunnis. So the historical report of a liar may carry some weight for you who reports about cows talking to humans and half humans exchanging poetry with humans....but for us these are pure lies. Great that you have mentioned that you rely upon people like sayf to know your history.
Hani Salhab: Also please tell me any authentic tradition or report with proper isnad not containing sayf telling about abdullah ibn e saba's role at the time of Hazrat Usman.
Hani Salhab: You know it is so easy for you to demolish my whole argument....just give one single report of the person abdullah ibn e saba at the time of Usman....the source of which report is not sayf...done....so easy for you....why beat around the bush? you have yourself stated that report of sayf's abdullah ibn e saba is supported by other authentic sources....just give me one source
Hani Salhab: oh dear! do you think that you could choose any absurd hadith from the shia books of ahadith and demolish my argument? seriously? When have you ever seen any shia alim proclaiming that whatever it is written in al kafi is a 100 percent truth? and as for me as a muslim anything in contradiction of quran is thrown out of window like this hadith. Now it is totally okay for a shia to reject these kind of ahadith. More over is this the hadith of rasool? If no then to whom this hadith is related to? This type of problem is with you guys who consider six book of ahadith as saheeh and treat them as if they are a 100 percent correct. it is often a case when the chain is correct but the content contradicts the quran. the hadith gets disqualified immediately. But it is a problem with you guys that you often believe in ahadith which contradicts quran
Hani Salhab: brother you are entering a very dangerous territory. If it is okay for you to believe the reports of a known liar even when it is not supported by any other person then it will get you in a very difficult situation. In the first 150 years of islam many historical books were written but none of them contain the reference of Abdullah ibn saba. The mentioning of his name started appearing only after the ommayyad liar Sayf. And you are unable to provide any reference other than Sayf telling about the existance of Ibne Saba who was instrumental in raking up the rebellion against Usman. The depiction of Ibne saba has been consistently done in a manner in which it shown that he played a pivotal role in the killing of Uthman. yet despite of all these facts you are adamant to believe that Ibne saba of Sayf if a real character. Seriously....cant you form a just opinion?
You need to improve your speech. Too many aaaa aaaa.... pls be very articulate. Very irritating
You are welcome to present for us if you think you can do a better job